Author Topic: Seperate Weapon-GFX folders and weaponnames.txt folder for teams (Read 18025 times)

RabidTreeFrog · « **on:** November 11, 2006, 04:48:07 pm »

Simple, and good for modding.
You can have two folders named "alphaweapongfx" and bravoweapongfx.

Defaults for both would be current weapons, but you can mod 'em seperatley to make team specific weapons.

EX- MP5 turns into Thompson and MP-40.

same for the .txt folder.

Commander Kitsune · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2006, 05:08:48 pm »

I support this 100%.

I always wanted to make a nice WWII U.S. vs. Germany thing.

Toumaz · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2006, 05:09:38 pm »

The more modding options the merrier. Support!

Nfsjunkie91 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2006, 05:22:46 pm »

Shupported. Possibly even team specific weapons.inis? I know everyone says this would be abused, but then people just wouldn't *play* servers/mods that abuse imbalance like that.

Tallacaps · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2006, 05:37:53 pm »

I support too.

RabidTreeFrog · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2006, 08:37:37 pm »

NFSJunkie, that seems like a good idea, as long it is optional.

Nfsjunkie91 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 11, 2006, 08:38:19 pm »

Quote from: RabidTreeFrog on November 11, 2006, 08:37:37 pm

NFSJunkie, that seems like a good idea, as long it is optional.

Optional means making both of them the same serverside.

Cato269 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2006, 08:42:41 pm »

yayfun. awp vs scout :p i think many soldat cs'ers would like this.

/support

Keron Cyst · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:36:30 am »

And separate ..\Soldat\Sfx folder as well

(A.k.a., I totally support)

jettlarue · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:38:37 am »

And separate weapons.ini maybe too?!? Yeah I'm all for it.

Kaine · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:12:49 pm »

support!!!!

Mistercharles · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:38:27 pm »

Quote

Simple, and good for modding.
You can have two folders named "Weapon-gfx" and a subfolder of weapon-gfx, "team2."

Defaults for both would be current weapons, but you can mod 'em seperatley to make team specific weapons.

EX- MP5 turns into Thompson and MP-40.

same for the .txt folder.

Compatibility.

Raithah · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:41:11 pm »

Oh, yes, definately worth a /sign.

That'd be awesome ! I mean, Cylons Vs. Battlestarians, Romulans Vs. Voyager, Halo Vs. Marathon ... Toad Vs. Mario !

The list goes on !

T-Bone · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:43:44 pm »

i love this idea soo much. You would need ones for charlie and delta as well though! (USA, Germany, Italy, Russia--WWII lol)

Pyroguy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2006, 04:22:29 pm »

I think France accomplished more in WWII than Italy, but you should probably put... oh, JAPAN? Anyways, I'm in full support for all previous suggestions in this thread, because they are optional and options are good.

Avis · « **Reply #15 on:** November 16, 2006, 08:36:23 am »

Support, this would give the modders sooo many possibilities and oppertunities.

boer · « **Reply #16 on:** November 16, 2006, 08:45:40 am »

Quote from: Nfsjunkie91 on November 11, 2006, 05:22:46 pm

Shupported.
*Possibly even team specific weapons.inis? *
I know everyone says this would be abused, but then people just wouldn't *play* servers/mods that abuse imbalance like that.

YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!
As for the abusing part, there are already servers that have , uhm ," imperfect" weapon mods onit.
EDIT:
Each mod should have its own GFX and Weapons settings in a compressed file. When you join such a server, something similar to mapdl happens and the mod is one your pc and you see al the weapons as they really work. You should then be able to host your own mod games by selecting the mod in soldat from a dropdown menu ( like selecting a map) and delete the crappy ones...

AlphaVergo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 16, 2006, 11:06:21 am »

Support very good idea, this opens up hundreds on new doors for gameplay and mods.

Sotija · « **Reply #18 on:** November 16, 2006, 11:49:07 am »

I want more modding things to soldat

*Supports*

Murd · « **Reply #19 on:** November 16, 2006, 12:19:08 pm »

woo thats just great

supported

g-force · « **Reply #20 on:** November 16, 2006, 01:43:19 pm »

Great idea, I have full support of this suggestion.
There will be a numerous amount of mods that will benefit from this.

g-force's Seal of Approval

popsofctown · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2006, 07:41:16 pm »

yes, good. you can mix an uneven weapon set with uneven maps for infiltration and make some pretty interesting games methinks. Like offense team always has longer ranged weapons or something? And i would definitely like to use an soldat edition m1 garand.

could u make terrorists vs. usa? infiltrate fallujah? im not a modder myself, does anyone kno if its possible make a gun that blows ur self up for terrorists?

this thread has me thinking... could u mod a mall terrorist attack scene? A bunch of unarmed, unaggressive civilian bots walk around in a mall (no jets), there are US or UK agents, and terrorists try to sneak in and blow themselves up. Agents get a certain number of points for killing a terrorist, terrorists get a certain number of points for killing civilians, but agents lose lots of points for killing a civilian. Bots begin panicking if shots are fired or someone blows up. That would be a cool game. Shut up, I don't care if its impossible, I like to dream.

RabidTreeFrog · « **Reply #22 on:** November 16, 2006, 07:42:57 pm »

Quote from: popsofctown on November 16, 2006, 07:41:16 pm

could u make terrorists vs. usa? infiltrate fallujah? im not a modder myself, does anyone kno if its possible make a gun that blows ur self up for terrorists?

Yes, Feild Marshal's Spec. Ops 2.0 mod has that suicide pack.

popsofctown · « **Reply #23 on:** November 16, 2006, 10:08:37 pm »

thx, its nice to kno

Cato269 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 18, 2006, 03:21:58 am »

could make anything.

Hax vs normal, without real hax

would be interesting, no?

toRch · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2006, 05:24:17 am »

full support :>

Fluffy · « **Reply #26 on:** November 18, 2006, 08:07:08 am »

Separate weapons.ini, too. My full support.

Cato269 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 18, 2006, 08:50:46 am »

Quote from: Fluffy on November 18, 2006, 08:07:08 am

Separate weapons.ini, too. My full support.

read page one of this topic, becuase:

Quote from: Nfsjunkie91 on November 11, 2006, 05:22:46 pm

Shupported. Possibly even team specific weapons.inis? I know everyone says this would be abused, but then people just wouldn't *play* servers/mods that abuse imbalance like that.

The Red Guy · « **Reply #28 on:** November 18, 2006, 08:53:05 am »

I support it, its a wonderful idea.

Drakor · « **Reply #29 on:** November 18, 2006, 05:31:51 pm »

*This suggestion has been stamped with Drakor's Seal of approval, and recomended for inclusion.*

ultraman · « **Reply #30 on:** November 18, 2006, 07:36:31 pm »

Nice idea
/support

SadistAtHeart · « **Reply #31 on:** November 19, 2006, 01:13:23 am »

Quote from: toRch on November 18, 2006, 05:24:17 am

full support :>

numgun · « **Reply #32 on:** November 19, 2006, 08:14:25 am »

Whoah... this would make 28 diffirent weapons per match.
Stealing the other teams weapons would be great aswell.

Or if that is hard to code: when a soldat picks up a enemy weapon it becomes one that is available at his own team.

I'd love this. ZAFT vs EA weaponry.

Cato269 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 19, 2006, 04:18:58 pm »

Quote from: numgun on November 19, 2006, 08:14:25 am

Or if that is hard to code: when a soldat picks up a enemy weapon it becomes one that is available at his own team.

No. it means you can just run around picking up every weapon, and then your team would be unstoppable. the idea of this is so you can't copy the other team, and a good modder will make it that gun 1 from A team can trump Gun 5 from B team, but Gun 3 from B team will trump Gun 1 from A team. Picking up every weapon so you can use it for the rest of the match ruins this. i say you can pick theirs up, but can use them until you lose it.

Wraithlike · « **Reply #34 on:** November 19, 2006, 04:22:38 pm »

This thread is hereby given the Wraithlike certificate of excellence.

Chameleon · « **Reply #35 on:** November 19, 2006, 11:09:25 pm »

it would be good. maybe even one for team3 and 4, for team matches as well.

if they put in team1/2 it wouldnt be too hard for teams 3/4.

Keron Cyst · « **Reply #36 on:** November 20, 2006, 11:35:58 am »

This thread has been noted as a Public Demand in The Official Suggestions Sticky.

RabidTreeFrog · « **Reply #37 on:** November 22, 2006, 09:27:22 pm »

Wow, I never thought my idea would be this cool to all of yah, thanks for the support.

Unlucky XIII · « **Reply #38 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:25:15 pm »

Quote from: numgun on November 19, 2006, 08:14:25 am

Stealing the other teams weapons would be great aswell.

Or if that is hard to code: when a soldat picks up a enemy weapon it becomes one that is available at his own team.

That's the only pickle I have with this idea, it'd look kind of weird for any weapon to change its look when picked up.
But then again, weapons don't stay around for that long, anyway. Love the idea, supported!

EDIT: I love the idea in total, not just the quoted one, by and by.

1010011010 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 23, 2006, 12:01:45 am »

*Strolls along with no weapon.*
- Bravo's Glock on the ground -
*Pick up*
POOF
- Socom -

That won't work.

Mistercharles · « **Reply #40 on:** November 23, 2006, 12:11:40 am »

Read the rules, no image macros, even if it has your own caption in it --brick

Even if weapons must instantly change on pickup/drop, this would still be great. So it would have a graphical glitch, big deal. At least it works.

Xdada · « **Reply #41 on:** November 23, 2006, 01:20:05 am »

This is quite a good idea ... no renaming for weapon.ini anymore ... and seperate weapon-gfx-s for teams... Of course I support it

Keron Cyst · « **Reply #42 on:** November 23, 2006, 11:14:01 am »

Quote from: 1010011010 on November 23, 2006, 12:01:45 am

*Strolls along with no weapon.*
- Bravo's Glock on the ground -
*Pick up*
POOF
- Socom -

That won't work.

Yes it will. You keep the Glock. It was discarded onto the ground, so there's no reason it would magically transform into your team's counter-version of that weapon.

Death MachineX350 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 23, 2006, 12:35:57 pm »

!support/maximum

d3LliRvM Kordia · « **Reply #44 on:** November 23, 2006, 03:06:38 pm »

Go total support here.I always wanted to make different guns and skins for teams.

BTW:It will be like cool to make a also separated SFX folder(if it isnt too much to ask)

RabidTreeFrog · « **Reply #45 on:** November 23, 2006, 09:53:17 pm »

^ That would be cool, it would be a no-brainer with this

Master Chief43 · « **Reply #46 on:** November 24, 2006, 06:28:58 pm »

I don't think my approval matters at this point since its already in "THE LIST", but hear it goes... I approve.

mxyzptlk · « **Reply #47 on:** January 16, 2007, 08:33:23 pm »

(not revival, it is in "THE LIST")

Wow...

Why didn't I see this earlier? I was thinking something similar.
This would also be awesome for "David VS Gollioth" Servers.

DavidVsGollioth: One team has all high power, low rate weapons and the other has high-rate autos.

MofoNofo · « **Reply #48 on:** January 16, 2007, 11:21:06 pm »

Support!!

Field Marshal · « **Reply #49 on:** January 16, 2007, 11:42:06 pm »

I hadn't really thought too much about this until now, but this would indeed be a very good feature. No more unrealistic weapon usage by the other team for certain mods (such as mine)

This idea has my backing

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #50 on:** January 17, 2007, 01:41:45 am »

Wraithlike and SadistatHeart's posts deleted. Read the rules, no image macros, even if it has your own caption in it.

also edited Mistercharles' post to remove his image macro.

Hiro · « **Reply #51 on:** January 17, 2007, 06:17:51 am »

Quote

*Strolls along with no weapon.*
- Bravo's Glock on the ground -
*Pick up*
POOF
- Socom -

That won't work.

I think thats fine. I think if you pick up the other teams weapon it should become your teams counter part. This would stop a team from using weapons they aren't supposed to have.

Field Marshal · « **Reply #52 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:22:26 pm »

Quote from: Hiro on January 17, 2007, 06:17:51 am

Quote
*Strolls along with no weapon.*
- Bravo's Glock on the ground -
*Pick up*
POOF
- Socom -

That won't work.
I think thats fine. I think if you pick up the other teams weapon it should become your teams counter part. This would stop a team from using weapons they aren't supposed to have.

I don't like that idea. In real life (using for example WWII) if you were an American G.I. and you shot a German you could take his weapon and it wouldn't turn into an M1 or a thompson

I think it's very unrealistic and unbecoming in my opinion.
I think shooting an enemy and being able to take his weapon that is different from anything you can get on your team is very appealing and would add more to the atmosphere that is the soldat we all know and love

Sytrus · « **Reply #53 on:** May 22, 2007, 02:58:33 pm »

100% Agree'd.

Yes, I do think this should be bumped because it's important.

adarius · « **Reply #54 on:** August 26, 2007, 11:36:55 am »

Well this is an OLD suggestion....but I don't forum surf a lot, and I was inactive last school year... So, I give this a 100% approval rating from Suburban Ninja!

Hmmm....we need to think though, since we don't want to put so much work on MM....how should this really work?

Some suggestions I have...

Gfx/Sfx/weapons.ini
Option A:
Have two different weapons graphics and sound effects, but keep it so that each set of weapons has the same weapons.ini to balance gameplay!

Option B:
Include 2 different sets of weapons.ini to diversify the gameplay of soldat, allowing for a more unique experience.

Think of more ideas!

Enemy weaponry!
Option A:
When picked up, make it turn into the corresponding weapon from the person's team.

Option B:
When picked up, the weapon will act normally but will be lost upon death.

Option C:
When you pick up an enemies weapon, the corresponding slot will change to that weapon.

Option D:
When you pick up an enemies when, the corresponding weapon slot will change to that weapon for a duration of 'X' amount of deaths.

Think of more ideas!

Well, that's all I could come up with for now. I have to go do other things.... -.-" See ya all later.

Tosty · « **Reply #55 on:** August 26, 2007, 12:55:28 pm »

THIS IS AWSOME

It hase my 100% support

mxyzptlk · « **Reply #56 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:06:15 pm »

This still needs to be included!

Reading again, I still love it.

MM, READ THIS.

NinjaGimp369 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 27, 2007, 03:50:42 am »

You shoulda set up a poll, because the support votes would be bursting out of the computer screen right now...

SUPPORT! Very nice idea!

~Niko~ · « **Reply #58 on:** August 27, 2007, 04:03:26 am »

I totally support you!

PaFel · « **Reply #59 on:** August 27, 2007, 04:19:14 am »

It has no sense to have only weapons-gfx and txt for other teams. I still think there should be different .ini at least for magazines capicty.

F12 in 100%

Bunney · « **Reply #60 on:** August 27, 2007, 09:43:11 am »

I guess this has already been suggested before cuz of the warhammer 40k mod, but still *SUPPORT*

Dairy · « **Reply #61 on:** August 27, 2007, 11:27:47 am »

What's about interface guns and sfx ? ? ? ?...or was it said in here ? If yes I'm sorry....and this is REALLY OLD SUGGESTION .... But I still like it...

RabidTreeFrog · « **Reply #62 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:01:48 pm »

wow, thanks for your support all... :]

Cappy · « **Reply #63 on:** August 27, 2007, 08:43:44 pm »

Thanks for bringing this back up, I hope this gets added in the next version.

Svirin Kerath · « **Reply #64 on:** September 02, 2007, 08:10:53 pm »

total support, this has been needed for a while.

LtKillroy · « **Reply #65 on:** September 02, 2007, 08:41:33 pm »

Umm, after much deliberation and considering both sides, I disagree for a simple reason. The dark side of random mods. People would probably abuse this and you couldn't find a normal server even less than now. Besides of this simple fact, i would agree.

Tosty · « **Reply #66 on:** September 03, 2007, 11:33:55 am »

Has MM even read this??

BlueBerry Pie · « **Reply #67 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:58:21 pm »

Quote from: Tosty on September 03, 2007, 11:33:55 am

Has MM even read this??

He never checks this section of the forum.

This is an awesome suggestion.Â Would really be neat to see teams with different weapons using mods that has modded weapons for each teams.Â Complete support.

1221995 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 06, 2007, 05:01:57 pm »

Thats nice... Lets hope its not 2 seperate inis lol unfair

valion · « **Reply #69 on:** November 08, 2007, 08:33:17 am »

Definite support. no problems with it please can it be implemented?

Lord Frunkamunch · « **Reply #70 on:** November 08, 2007, 08:37:38 am »

Quote from: LtKillroy on September 02, 2007, 08:41:33 pm

Umm, after much deliberation and considering both sides, I disagree for a simple reason. The dark side of random mods. People would probably abuse this and you couldn't find a normal server even less than now. Besides of this simple fact, i would agree.

No, mods are client side.

El_Spec · « **Reply #71 on:** November 08, 2007, 09:16:08 pm »

This isn't yet unconfirmed, but I think this option is implemented in 1.5

.::Blaze::. · « **Reply #72 on:** November 08, 2007, 09:32:57 pm »

god this idea would make everything a bit easier and also more opp. total support f12!

O.R.I.O.N. · « **Reply #73 on:** November 09, 2007, 11:59:47 am »

Quote from: El_Spec on November 08, 2007, 09:16:08 pm

This isn't yet unconfirmed, but I think this option is implemented in 1.5

I kind of doubt that; it would require some serious twinks to the program. And it'd make modding a bit more annoying for people who don't want to implement it.

Lord Frunkamunch · « **Reply #74 on:** November 09, 2007, 12:01:33 pm »

Not if you just copy and paste your weapons folder =p

O.R.I.O.N. · « **Reply #75 on:** November 09, 2007, 12:22:44 pm »

...meh. Still, it's not that I don't like the idea; I'm just sceptical about it being implemented so soon.

Master Chief43 · « **Reply #76 on:** November 09, 2007, 05:51:31 pm »

I don't think this suggestion wants seperate weapons.ini files too... Just Weapon-gfx, Gun Interface, and Weaponnames.txt. Once again i support this.

Lord Frunkamunch · « **Reply #77 on:** November 09, 2007, 07:33:47 pm »

Weapons.ini is, in my opinion, the most important one by far.

echo_trail · « **Reply #78 on:** November 10, 2007, 12:26:46 pm »

This might've been asked allready, but I couldn't really see it anywhere. How would the weapons GHX react when you picked up a weapon from another team? Would it switch to the 'friendly' interface, or would it remain the same?

-Vis- · « **Reply #79 on:** November 10, 2007, 03:09:51 pm »

I reckon it should remain the same. It'd be interesting to know how many people grab and use other peoples' weapons.

Quote from: O.R.I.O.N. on November 09, 2007, 11:59:47 am

Quote from: El_Spec on November 08, 2007, 09:16:08 pm
This isn't yet unconfirmed, but I think this option is implemented in 1.5
I kind of doubt that; it would require some serious twinks to the program. And it'd make modding a bit more annoying for people who don't want to implement it.

Quote from: Lord Frunkamunch on November 09, 2007, 12:01:33 pm

Not if you just copy and paste your weapons folder =p

Or you could simply leave it how it is now. If you only have one set of weapons, it automatically uses them for both teams.

Will · « **Reply #80 on:** November 10, 2007, 04:33:36 pm »

I don't see why this feature would bother any people. A very small number of servers use custom.inis

Quote from: LtKillroy on September 02, 2007, 08:41:33 pm

Umm, after much deliberation and considering both sides, I disagree for a simple reason. The dark side of random mods. People would probably abuse this and you couldn't find a normal server even less than now. Besides of this simple fact, i would agree.

how would that be abused? I know many modders would make more mods and maybe try balancing the game more and stuff. You don't need to be so pesimistic

t3h_n00b · « **Reply #81 on:** November 10, 2007, 06:53:59 pm »

[support]YAY[/support]

-{Phoenix}- · « **Reply #82 on:** November 11, 2007, 05:40:27 pm »

nice idea

numgun · « **Reply #83 on:** November 12, 2007, 09:04:42 am »

If this will get in we'll need a new configurator program for some mods that has more than default amount of weapons.

I support it all the way. Will make things more interesting and some clever people might do something awesome out of it.

EnEsCe · « **Reply #84 on:** November 12, 2007, 09:09:45 am »

Quote from: El_Spec on November 08, 2007, 09:16:08 pm

This isn't yet unconfirmed, but I think this option is implemented in 1.5

It's not going to be in Soldat 1.5.

valion · « **Reply #85 on:** November 17, 2007, 11:54:10 am »

please be implemented soon. im tired of playing the 40k mod and seeing gaurdsmen running around eith gauss flayers and talking like tau

muzikman · « **Reply #86 on:** October 19, 2008, 09:22:56 am »

This would be amazing- hello covenant vs marines!

Although I don't like the idea of a different.ini file, I think it would just make balancing impossible.

ashxu · « **Reply #87 on:** October 22, 2008, 03:25:54 am »

Support. F12

croat1gamer · « **Reply #88 on:** October 22, 2008, 08:40:04 am »

f12
full for this

echo_trail · « **Reply #89 on:** October 22, 2008, 11:17:13 am »

Do not revive old topics, unless what you wanna say is absolutely relevant. (Locked, PM me if you need it reopened)

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Author Topic: Seperate Weapon-GFX folders and weaponnames.txt folder for teams (Read 18025 times)

El_Spec