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Should the new maps should be replaced with the old ones?

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No
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Offline SC0RP!0N

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Back to the roots!
« on: November 15, 2009, 02:57:43 pm »
Back to the roots!
Replace the new remake maps in 1.5.1b with the old ones!

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 03:31:33 pm »
It's a beta.

Try giving some constructive feedback as to what needs to be changed on the new maps rather than a kneejerk reaction of ``ZOMG NO CHANGE ALLOWED".
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 03:46:57 pm »
Back with the old Laos! Or remove the "houses" of the map.

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 03:51:01 pm »
@ Veritas: My constructive feedback is that I don't want any remakes of old maps.

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 03:54:10 pm »
@ Veritas: My constructive feedback is that I don't want any remakes of old maps.
That's not actually constructive feedback.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 04:14:10 pm »
Constructive Feedback would be giving details as to why you want it changed.

For example:
The replacement of the solid polys with the houses in Laos would give rise to spray. There is also too much scenery, making my game's FPS very low. Therefore, I suggest the older version of Laos be the default map rather than this new version.

Just because it looks horrible or you're not used to it doesn't mean you should have it changed to the old version.

I don't have any comments on this matter, this example is not my opinion, but heck, learn to give some proper explanations.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 04:15:05 pm »
You're right ;)
But for me it is a point, that is important.
That's the reason, why I started this poll.

From: November 15, 2009, 04:18:51 pm
Because in my opinion, Laos or other maps don't need this changes. They are good as they are.
They have something traditional. Because the have always been the same maps.
Everybody knows them, and played them a lot in leagues (while Laos was default in SCTFL) or on a public server.
That's the reason, why I think, the maps should not be changed.
And with the slightly changes, also the gameplay changes.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2009, 04:31:00 pm »
Yes I agree with scorps.

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2009, 07:33:55 pm »
I like the huts. It's a good replacement for the single-entry holes that were sitting there before.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 12:20:53 am »
The re-makes are stupid. Doesn't matter if we voice our opinion anyway, not like ec give's a flying fuck about anyone in the community.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 12:28:02 am »
Actually I think the remakes are better than the old ones. If not for a good change to mix things up after years and years of the same old maps, but also to attract new players with eye candy.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 12:46:40 am »
Eye candy?
They don't even look good.. The majority of the textures are either really really dark on a really dark background, or really bright, on a really bright background, making them painful to eye, rather than appealing.

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 12:58:39 am »
The re-makes are stupid. Doesn't matter if we voice our opinion anyway, not like ec give's a flying f**k about anyone in the community.
Then maybe you should be speaking to the map makers that did this instead.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 01:14:37 am »
not like ec give's a flying f**k about anyone in the community.
To paraphrase someone else, you're barking up the wrong tree about this. There was a bunch of mappers that made these changes, so go bash them instead.
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 01:37:22 am »
ruining the retro feel of soldat, the arcade style gameplay that drew me into this game. vastly changing the gameplay of old maps that the players love is only stacking onto the hate of the new releases. i have never been one to fuss about things but leave the old maps alone and if you want to mix things up then add more default maps, the new maps that were added last release were great with the introduction of blade and such. it's the competitive side of soldat that these remakes will hurt..

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 01:41:26 am »
Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about. It's not like the old maps have been deleted forever. Just rename them and play them whenever you feel like it. They're not gone or unsupported. :P
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2009, 01:46:15 am »
ruining the retro feel of soldat, the arcade style gameplay that drew me into this game. vastly changing the gameplay of old maps that the players love is only stacking onto the hate of the new releases. i have never been one to fuss about things but leave the old maps alone and if you want to mix things up then add more default maps, the new maps that were added last release were great with the introduction of blade and such. it's the competitive side of soldat that these remakes will hurt..

To be honest Kagesha, this is almost analogous to the differences between Super Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl.

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2009, 01:57:31 am »
Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about. It's not like the old maps have been deleted forever. Just rename them and play them whenever you feel like it. They're not gone or unsupported. :P

competitive leagues follow the versions of soldat (on official release), i would want the leagues to not convert to the new remakes but i can't be 100% sure they will.

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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 02:38:50 am »
not like ec give's a flying f**k about anyone in the community.
To paraphrase someone else, you're barking up the wrong tree about this. There was a bunch of mappers that made these changes, so go bash them instead.
was kinda going off topic with my post but ehh, you know what i mean
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Re: Back to the roots!
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2009, 06:40:20 am »
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