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Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: PQ on September 10, 2007, 01:49:58 pm

Title: increase gravity
Post by: PQ on September 10, 2007, 01:49:58 pm
Well, the soldiers fall down really slow..
It reduces the gamespeed a lot, and because I like soldat to be a fast game, I would like to see the soldiers fall some faster. (just a bit)

Might need to increase the jetpower to have a nice realistic mode game.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: PaFel on September 10, 2007, 01:53:38 pm
Well, the soldiers fall down really slow..
It reduces the gamespeed a lot, and because I like soldat to be a fast game, I would like to see the soldiers fall some faster. (just a bit)

Might need to increase the jetpower to have a nice realistic mode game.

Agree with you a bit. In realistic mod - why not?
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: /L on September 10, 2007, 01:59:19 pm
If the Soldaten fell faster in realistic mode, they would take EXTREME damage. Realistic shouldn't be TOO realistic, if you get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: PaFel on September 10, 2007, 02:03:56 pm
If the Soldaten fell faster in realistic mode, they would take EXTREME damage. Realistic shouldn't be TOO realistic, if you get what I'm saying.

Oh...True. Must agree.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: LtKillroy on September 10, 2007, 03:26:18 pm
As far as I know, it is hard to change the falling speed, something about MM's script is weird or somat. I think it is fine, overcomplication=bad.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: NooMoahk on September 10, 2007, 04:27:54 pm
Yeah it might be ok but would it really be worth it? Its not a very big deal to me.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: SpiltCoffee on September 10, 2007, 05:10:03 pm
Maybe allow the ability to change gravity? Heh...
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Kai on September 10, 2007, 05:22:07 pm
My point exacly. But overall gravity should be a bit stronger by default.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: yellowraiden on September 10, 2007, 05:34:24 pm
i feel gravity is ok now, maybe have play so long.

i always prone jetting down to speed it, so gravity not bother me.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: GluLm on September 10, 2007, 05:39:09 pm
Still, it would be cool to be able to change the gravity with some parameters.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Yes on September 10, 2007, 06:18:33 pm
Wait if we increased the gravity then we couldn't bunny hop really fast. It would slow down gamespeed. :o
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: /L on September 10, 2007, 07:04:04 pm
Exactly. It would entirely throw off every single old player who's used to it being the same for the entire game. A lot of people, like me, know how and when to jump in more or less all of the popular maps like Run and Kampf to do certain things. Changing it just so new players can fall faster because they don't know how to maneuver doesn't sound very appealing.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Mitak on September 10, 2007, 08:06:08 pm
It seems that you're falling slowly just because it's like you watch your soldier from nearly 50m. The elements in the game are tiny and one screen is 50-60 m. Imagine falling from 50m and reaching the ground for 3 seconds. WOW!
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: PQ on September 17, 2007, 01:07:20 pm
It's just weird that going up goes faster than going down...

Exactly. It would entirely throw off every single old player who's used to it being the same for the entire game. A lot of people, like me, know how and when to jump in more or less all of the popular maps like Run and Kampf to do certain things. Changing it just so new players can fall faster because they don't know how to maneuver doesn't sound very appealing.

The weapon balances change every version as well. So you'll need to train your aiming again as well.
And making a game better is always good.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: LtKillroy on September 17, 2007, 03:58:24 pm
But, PQ, is it really better? I don't think so, the game is already pretty fast as far as shooters go. I think it's fine, it would take a lot of time to make it balanced and stuff (falling faster would make some guns harder to aim/hit people) and probably hard to code. And a lot of people wouldn't like it. And I don't think changing the very physics of a game is a good idea for some reason.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Will on September 17, 2007, 04:05:23 pm
I think we should be able  to change that setting. Then we could have a real CS-like subgame mode or something. Now you're all gonna say taht soldat shouldn't be too realistic and all, but the game will be better if there are more modding settings to change. More mod options=more mods=more people playing=more $$$
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: LtKillroy on September 17, 2007, 04:25:25 pm
I think we should be able to change that setting. Then we could have a real CS-like subgame mode or something. Now you're all gonna say taht soldat shouldn't be too realistic and all, but the game will be better if there are more modding settings to change. More mod options=more mods=more people playing=more $$$
That I agree with, some cool climb options and stuff. I do like that.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: KorrupT MerC on September 17, 2007, 06:11:24 pm
I dont think its possible but i was thinking earlier about faster falling :P but not increasing gravity but being able to like flip upside down and jet your way towards the ground :D That would be a lot simpler than increasing gravity though and would give us like 2-3 new maneuvers to master.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Dr. Zombi3 on September 17, 2007, 10:03:16 pm
agreed, the gravity now is like your on the moon
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: -Major- on September 18, 2007, 02:58:52 am
probably the gravity is coded in the engine and therefore is quite troublesome to change anything to put the gravity outside the engine and place it in the game rules. allthough I don't know where it is placed in the code.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Mitak on September 18, 2007, 03:10:16 am
Oh yeah... Imagine that the maps would also change with gravity :O
The little soldat is going to be crippled - won't be able to jump on a polygon that is 2 cm above him (2cm in human lenght).
And then what will happen to the climbing maps? With the impossibility to jump higher as now, their quality is to be ruined. That goes for every map type (Like trenchwars) where flying is disabled.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: Will on September 18, 2007, 03:54:47 am
POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE GRAVITY, not change it in the engine. Like the weapons.ini settings.
Title: Re: increase gravity
Post by: PQ on September 18, 2007, 10:08:40 am
Oh yeah... Imagine that the maps would also change with gravity :O
The little soldat is going to be crippled - won't be able to jump on a polygon that is 2 cm above him (2cm in human lenght).
And then what will happen to the climbing maps? With the impossibility to jump higher as now, their quality is to be ruined. That goes for every map type (Like trenchwars) where flying is disabled.


No not like that, since that would make you have to aim different every map..
Just increase gravity at all maps, or make it adjustable so you can change it on your server..