Author Topic: As far as stats go, what do you prefer? (Read 7877 times)

Mr. Domino · « **on:** June 30, 2006, 03:51:13 am »

I was playing around U13's site and see that it ranks the top ten based on their K:D ratio. Personally, I've always gone for points, since I want my team to win, and that means capturing the flag. A good K:D ratio can be had just by standing back and letting enemies come to you, barret camping, and/or spraying. The same goes for kills. A points-scoring capture, however, will require confronting a number of enemies while making two trips across the map, and that is something that impresses me more, at least going from faceless statistics.

So, what do you prefer and why?

Cookie. · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2006, 05:02:37 am »

I prefer high K:D. When I have a high K:D I think its good help for the team, say I take out 2 guys on my way to there base for my one life, which makes it seem like my teammates will have a better chance to get in and score.

SDFilm · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2006, 05:07:52 am »

Definatly high K:D for me. A high amount of kills just means youve been playing for long. And Points (you mean CTF right?) could mean that you got lucky by grabing the flag via a poorly defended low route or even just "stealing" a teammates flag after dieing near the cap position.

I have more respect for the person that has 15 kills and 1 death than the person who has 80 kills and 70 deaths.

Aoba · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2006, 06:35:32 am »

I go for points myself. K:D-ratio is as much as useless and only gives you unnecessary bragging. Also, having high amounts of kills isn't that important but it's always fun to have tons of them.

jrgp · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2006, 06:38:24 am »

I prefer high k:d wich is only possible with alot of kills.

Dentist · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2006, 07:30:58 am »

Hmm caps imho are the most important. Its good even if ur K:D is like 0.3 plus 2\3 caps (what happens quite often when playing 2x def and 1 rush tactic for example @ Ash or Run).

Aquarius · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2006, 07:35:05 am »

Points. Only points matter (or flag caps in CTF).

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2006, 07:45:54 am »

There needs to be an option about "For the Team!" for people who play to support the team (yes, this is different than playing for Points)

zyxstand · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2006, 07:53:10 am »

I believe they should give you all information at those stats: kills, caps, total points (caps x 20 + kill (the way it's in the game)), deaths, (suicides?), and k/d ratio. It should be up to the reader to interpret that information!

The problem with any statistics today (especially in the U.S.) is that, while it displays correct information, it gets interpreted differently - basically the people presenting these statistics are trying to misguide the people by forcing them to interpret the statistics a certain way.

air139 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:57:31 am »

K-D suks...

There is an "EVO" Algerithem, but it allows someone to come in and jump to the top fast...

I prefere K(K/D) for my scoring

Mr. Domino · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:13:34 am »

Quote from: FliesLikeABrick on June 30, 2006, 07:45:54 am

There needs to be an option about "For the Team!" for people who play to support the team (yes, this is different than playing for Points)

I'm just going purely from the stats available in Soldat and U13. Teamwork has no Soldat point spread tied into it, so it's worthless here.

I do find better teams are generally made up of people who across the board do okay, rather than teams where one or two people score tons of points and the others are listed in the single digits.

Zamorak · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2006, 10:21:03 am »

K:D doesn't reflect skill, nor does amount of kills. So, neither.

Plonkoon · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2006, 10:32:50 am »

It reflects the average kills you got in 1 lifetime, I think it's fair.

Zamorak · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2006, 12:38:09 pm »

Quote from: Plonkoon on June 30, 2006, 10:32:50 am

It reflects the average kills you got in 1 lifetime, I think it's fair.

I know what it is, I just don't think it accurately represents skill.

Mancer · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2006, 12:43:10 pm »

I prefer the least amount of deaths possible. I really don't care how many kills I get, as long as I die below 15 and have more kills than deaths, Im usually happy.

SDFilm · « **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2006, 12:46:52 pm »

Quote from: Zamorak on June 30, 2006, 12:38:09 pm

Quote from: Plonkoon on June 30, 2006, 10:32:50 am
It reflects the average kills you got in 1 lifetime, I think it's fair.

I know what it is, I just don't think it accurately represents skill.

It does represent skill, unless the player has been doing every lame trick in the book.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2006, 12:50:37 pm »

Quote from: SDFilm on June 30, 2006, 12:46:52 pm

Quote from: Zamorak on June 30, 2006, 12:38:09 pm
Quote from: Plonkoon on June 30, 2006, 10:32:50 am
It reflects the average kills you got in 1 lifetime, I think it's fair.

I know what it is, I just don't think it accurately represents skill.

It does represent skill, unless the player has been doing every lame trick in the book.

which is exactly what he's talking about

Graham · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2006, 01:17:50 pm »

I LOVE defending the base in ctf with my m79, so im really a kill person, but when i need to attack im all about going out with a blaze of glory so to speak, cause with the m79 the reload time is so long you will die most of the time unless your point is to get the flag and leave, so I just get infront of a teammember and kill off some people to clear a path.

Jessica · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:07:28 pm »

Quote from: Mancer on June 30, 2006, 12:43:10 pm

I prefer the least amount of deaths possible. I really don't care how many kills I get, as long as I die below 15 and have more kills than deaths, Im usually happy.

Lol I agree, as long as I come out with more kills than deaths, then I'm happy.

Captain Ben · « **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:22:40 pm »

Same here, although I always aim to get at least twice as many kills than deaths.

EnEsCe · « **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:24:47 pm »

Quote from: Jessica on June 30, 2006, 08:07:28 pm

Quote from: Mancer on June 30, 2006, 12:43:10 pm
I prefer the least amount of deaths possible. I really don't care how many kills I get, as long as I die below 15 and have more kills than deaths, Im usually happy.

Lol I agree, as long as I come out with more kills than deaths, then I'm happy.

Im the same.... I dominated the U13 Chicago Public stats within 1 day of playing simply by keeping a 5:1 KD ratio.. <3 Camping with Barret.

Jessica · « **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:35:17 pm »

Lol nice Nick. Lol, I love to camp with my Barret ^.^ , nothing better than watching the guys head bounce up and down once you shoot it off

X-Rayz · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:00:48 pm »

But when you come down to it, it doesnt matter if you died a hundred times to fifty kills. A high K:D ratio isnt going to win that cw match as well as getting 8 caps and dieing a million times. A ctf match is all about the caps, as long as i get them, i dont give a **** if i die. Anything to win.

Jessica · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:03:48 pm »

Quote from: X-Rayz on June 30, 2006, 09:00:48 pm

But when you come down to it, it doesnt matter if you died a hundred times to fifty kills. A high K:D ratio isnt going to win that cw match as well as getting 8 caps and dieing a million times. A ctf match is all about the caps, as long as i get them, i dont give a **** if i die. Anything to win.

Hm well that is your opinion. If I got lets say 20 kills and only 5 deaths, then I would be really proud. And even if we lost, I know I pulled my weight in camping and defending the flag as best as I could

EnEsCe · « **Reply #24 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:04:01 pm »

Well Soldat isnt made for CW's... And If you have a player with a good KD you should have solid defence in a CW...

Noldi · « **Reply #25 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:29:32 pm »

I prefer high kills and deaths because makes me look more pro. As long as I have more kills thean deaths, which most of the time I do.

T-Bone · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2006, 06:39:59 am »

K:D for me. Anytime i die with only one (or none) kills for that life, i chalk it up as a wasted life. But when i have a crappy game, im just happy to have more kills than deaths lol

Outcast · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2006, 07:08:18 pm »

Most kills every map is what I prefer. Deaths don't matter. Deaths are a vital element in soldat.

reckon · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2006, 11:31:33 pm »

I dont care really for the value, only during a Death Match is the time I care about my ratio.
Otherwise, the teams effort comes first before the player.
Winning matters during ctf or inf, not your points.

Nightcrawler · « **Reply #29 on:** July 02, 2006, 12:59:00 am »

In team games, i think that getting the Objective is more important than your K:D ratio. But in anything else, K:D ratio is the best.

T-Bone · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2006, 02:38:29 am »

Yes winning is important in CTF and INF, but taht doesnt mean i just run into huge firefights, i play it smart so i can die less, so i can support our team MORE.

SDFilm · « **Reply #31 on:** July 02, 2006, 01:35:14 pm »

I normaly dont mind if I cap the flag or not, as long as someone in my team does. I'm just around for the killing

Meep. · « **Reply #32 on:** July 02, 2006, 01:57:03 pm »

Yeah, I always think a nice K:D ratio looks nice and clean.

Mr. Domino · « **Reply #33 on:** July 05, 2006, 03:38:56 am »

Quote from: T-Bone on July 02, 2006, 02:38:29 am

Yes winning is important in CTF and INF, but taht doesnt mean i just run into huge firefights, i play it smart so i can die less, so i can support our team MORE.

Yes, but sometimes supporting your team means being a meatshield for an FFC. Then you get the worst of both worlds -- no flag to score with and a high death count. Of course, a good player will still have some kills, but having to stall approaching groups of enemies isn't the best way to boost one's stats, though it's for the good of the team.

Le MeSsiE {neo} · « **Reply #34 on:** July 05, 2006, 03:44:49 am »

Ratio is the most interesting thing when we play in team/clangame

Spasm · « **Reply #35 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:05:46 am »

I think anything above 1.3 or so K:D, is respectable. It shows that you're most likely gonna take 1 or 2 people with you every time you respawn. A defensive person is more likely to have higher. "Flag Returns" also should be considered a valuable stat. It shows that not only you can kill someone..but you can also kill the right someone at the right time.

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Author Topic: As far as stats go, what do you prefer? (Read 7877 times)