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Soldat Talk => Weapon Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Gold on June 20, 2006, 02:27:24 am

Title: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Gold on June 20, 2006, 02:27:24 am
Ive been thinking the mini gun might need to get trashed, but i also think no... what do you think?  :)
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Zero72 on June 20, 2006, 04:04:34 am
Would hardly be Soldat without it!
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Jermies on June 20, 2006, 04:47:05 am
Mini is that novelty that you use when you are Really bored...

I occasionally use it to let of steam and bink out those barretards.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Mr. Domino on June 20, 2006, 06:10:42 am
I voted yes because it's very usage can break the game with its slowdown/lag.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: BondJamesBond on June 20, 2006, 07:44:29 am
a noob needs their gun,.. EVERY GAme has a noob gun
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: EnEsCe on June 20, 2006, 07:47:29 am
Soldat has 2 noob guns, M79 and minigun :P

MM said he isnt going to remove a gun :(
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Beasticly on June 20, 2006, 08:04:03 am
As I once unfortunately found out, 3 minigun users spraying together in a CTF server = ownage. :(

Keep it as it is, it's a cool way to do different things/ have fun.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: vulbastick on June 20, 2006, 08:20:01 am
Soldat has 2 noob guns, M79 and minigun :P

m79 is only a noob gun if its abused. why do people have a go at the m79 ffs its NOT a noob gun!
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: T-Bone on June 20, 2006, 12:33:23 pm
i kinda like the minigun....its like the ADD cousin of the hott girl at the pary...wierd, but still kinda cool :p no...but seriously i voted add some damage
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Juggernaut on June 20, 2006, 01:12:56 pm
Soldat has 2 noob guns, M79 and minigun :P

m79 is only a noob gun if its abused. why do people have a go at the m79 ffs its NOT a noob gun!

yea dude, minigun's not a noob gun, they can barely get any kills with them, so they'd just not use them anymore.
a noob gun should be easy to use and get a lot of kills.

wait you're talking about m79??
oh, nah, nah, it is a noob gun, because all you have to learn is the arc, and because the bullet is huge compare to barrett, and you can just hit the ground half the time, with no delay....yeah it's definately a noob gun alright.... (and please dont' tell me it's hard to use at long range. why would you use m79 at long range anyway?? i have yet to see anyone trying to use m79 exclusively at long range. to show off you can almost hit your enemy, so you can go whine about it?)
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Keron Cyst on June 20, 2006, 07:28:38 pm
Heheh. I'm with Juggernaut here.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: GNU on June 20, 2006, 08:54:34 pm
Nah.


Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: T-Bone on June 21, 2006, 02:24:04 am
juggernaut comes through with another good post....he reads my mind on some of these topics lol *cheers*
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: [R^M]TomaHawk on June 22, 2006, 03:06:37 pm
when u get berserker mode with a mini gun on a small map ownage.Everyone is cut down.My weopan is the ak74 that gun is awesome.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Plonkoon on June 23, 2006, 07:23:22 pm
If the minigun was trashed, there would be angry mobs with torches and guns outside MM's house.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: SDFilm on June 23, 2006, 07:30:03 pm
^ Yeah, but MM will be the only one with the minigun :P

Aaanyway,  I'm with Juggernaut.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Valorman on June 23, 2006, 10:37:10 pm
Meh, juggernaut takes my opinion.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Plonkoon on June 23, 2006, 11:34:30 pm
Heh, despite all the crap minigunners get it's pretty nice to see almost everyone wanting to leave it alone.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: jbigz on June 24, 2006, 04:16:46 am
it looks like our ideas are unanimous. we all agree with juggernaut, except for afew worthless, friendless outcasts. (jk guys lol). ya know what, lets just make juggernaut mod. lol  ;D
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: mat on June 24, 2006, 10:04:26 am
maybe it would be a good ideea to make it stronger, yett moving should be more limited with it!
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: T-Bone on June 24, 2006, 01:38:28 pm
i had a bad runin in a CTF game, where the entire othre team (7 people) all were in a clan called the minigunners.....geuss what all 7 used? they just sat back and covered their base with a wall of bullets, so you couldnt do anything really.....they ended up not being too bad with them when they finally attacked, they just had to support eachother to be effective. Minigun forces Teamwork
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: boer on June 24, 2006, 06:36:10 pm
Step 1 to minigun furfullment -> prone button is accessable by lil finger (make it left ctr)
Step 2 to minigun furfullment -> prone as much as you can while in air ( for acc)
Step 3 to minigun furfullment -> keep the 'gun up n runnin(shoot&release)
Step 4 to minigun furfullment -> pwn
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: SDFilm on June 24, 2006, 06:40:38 pm
I won't touch the minigun with a 10-foot barge pole, but I still want it it in because it just would not be soldat without it.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Gore on June 24, 2006, 10:08:56 pm
I think it is the shittiest weapon of the game and noboy use it exept bore people, and noobs. I put this in the suggestions forum.

I think the Start-Up time should be shorter if you stop firing, then fire again before the barrels stop spinning ! Just take the precise amount of time to pick the RPMs lost while you weren't firing.. and so on. It doesn't seem hard to code either.
For example if it takes 1.5 second to fire the thing, and you stopped firing 0.7 seconds... the just have 0.8 seconds to fire again. The weapon has been too crappy since 1.1
The minigun in Alien VS Predator works just like this, you can even keep the barrels spinning with the secondary action, to quickly take down those aliens, but thats another thing, just food for thought.

But honestly, I'd like to see it replaced with something else
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: jbigz on June 25, 2006, 02:01:46 pm
mat, i swear that was brought up earlier in this thread... or maybe since i posted in in more than 3 days ago i forgot... well whatever, decreased movement? thats strange. just make movement acc really high then if your talkin about that.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Gore on June 25, 2006, 06:33:09 pm
Seen it before ? Cool, that says it is a very logic solution.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: jettlarue on June 27, 2006, 12:15:05 am
i seem not to agree with juggernaut on this one. with any auto, once you are out of there range they have nothing they can do but take cover. all you have to do is memerize the 4 inch circle and stay slightly away from it. also help if you are above the circle too. and actually with my monthly kill logs, minigunners only had like 6% of kills.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: H31MU7 on June 27, 2006, 01:27:01 am
To remove the mini gun... Well I don't think it should be removed Its not really that effective. I think a whole server useing M79 and Barrets is worste. Though I prefer to play Realistic and the recoil on it is nasty its fun to watch some n00b aim at you then BAM rest of the rounds going into the air with no effectivness at all.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Gold on June 29, 2006, 09:58:10 pm
I was trying the minigun and its not as bad as you'd think when your shooting at the enemy while they're trying to come up hill  ;D
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Krillious on July 01, 2006, 06:28:04 am
The minigun should have less bullets, more damage and more fire interval

And Minigun is actually one of the least noob-ish weapons since getting a kill with it is very hard :-/
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: Lethal Injection on July 01, 2006, 11:32:45 am
I believe this gun should be kept, made better, but also nerfed a bit. I don't see how a man can FLY with something that weighs almost as much as he does without having some kind of jetpack. (Not saying we should add a jetpack, just saying it's VERY unrealistic, and I mean that this should be implemented in realistic mode only, otherwise there would be far too many whiners and noobs carrying it around. Not that noobs don't play realistic.)

Anyways, it should slow you down like heck when you carry it, even on your back, but it should also be much more precise than it is currently, perhaps a bit more powerful as well. This would make it a good strategic weapon, and a lot more fun to play with.

When you play unrealistic with it, I guess it's fine as it is.
Title: Re: ?Mini-Gun In The Trash?
Post by: miao on July 01, 2006, 01:08:04 pm
i think it mustbe just more stronger to become usable ^_^