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Soldat Maps & Mapmaking => Mapping Ideas / General Discussions => Topic started by: Avarax on August 13, 2006, 08:07:01 pm
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Eh, i changed this to a trenchwar map. mapname will be ctf_tw_cannibals
this little piece of art took me 5 hours and its probably 5% of the map:
(http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibal.JPG)
what do you think?
EDIT:
progress:
(http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibal2.JPG)
(http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibal3.JPG)
(http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibal4.JPG)
(http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibal5.JPG)
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Wow, looks awesome so far. Keep up the good stuff Avarax.
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That's...sexy!
Hell, I might as well make a single player map.
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Looks sick dude. If only you could make bots do a slow walk.
Huts and the like?
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Yes I always wanted to play mission based soldat. Will this be infiltrationor what???
And this would be played in realistic right?? This would even be a new great gamemode for you rserver.
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Could I ask why it is CTF? Because if you are the only one to be getting the flag, and the bots are not supposed to capture, would it not be better to have infiltration as the game type?
Other than that, rules like anything, please continue, for I love you! And could you sketch some waypoints for the non-terrorist team, because it wouldn't be too bad to have some allies that are really bad at their job at the start.
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It looks excellent so far Avarax, can't wait to play it when it's finished.
In my honest opinion, and for the sake of giving you a few ideas to help, I would suggest adding maybe a few visual Far Cry elements into this map. I just looked at what you have so far and that game just popped into my head.
I was thinking of something like this:
(http://store.ubi.com/productimages/xbx_far_cry_instincts_s1.jpg)
I know your not gonna change your map as you have probably allready got it planned out yourself. Just thought I might shoot some ideas :P.
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@panzercatwagon:
i havent planned anything so far ^^
the platforms are simply build with fantasy.
ill not make it far cry like, it will rather be many tropical canyon platforms connected with old wooden hanging bridges, something like in pirates of the carribean 2.
@unlucky 13:
ya right, inf is a better idea.
@atomic hype:
crouch walk is a slow walk :D
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damn, the bots are a real problem, even with bot seeing quality "very poor" they see you when you approach from behind in realistic. its just gay. and the botpoints are hard to manage either.
if this map isnt successful ill transform it into a TW or CTF map
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Oh, I see what you mean. I still reckon it would be cooler with a Far Cry feel to it, but it's your map. I guess I could always do my own :D.
Anyways, is this the kinda thing you mean?
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4347/bridgeypiccg6.png)
Sorry about the poor quality.
[EDIT] There's another one here:
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8703/bridgeypic1xu6.png)
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ya :D
EDIT: Update (mainpost)
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damn, the bots are a real problem, even with bot seeing quality "very poor" they see you when you approach from behind in realistic. its just gay. and the botpoints are hard to manage either.
if this map isnt successful ill transform it into a TW or CTF map
Seeing quality needs to be on "exceptional." At least, that's what it was on when it worked in 1.2.1.
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@Update: Very nice, looks very ... bridge-ey. It reminds me of a picture somewhere 8)
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I am so makeing one of these.....
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sweeeeeeet
i tried my hand at this kinda map for my very first map (actually the reason i started mapping) but couldn't get the bot thing right
keep us updated on your progress, i'd love to see where this goes
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It looks really nice an all, but i think you should spend you time working on CTF maps and such, This will get really boring really fast
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well from what i can tell tell my maps are the most played custom maps out there and i did about 3 "normal" maps in my whole mapmaking career ;P
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well from what i can tell tell my maps are the most played custom maps out there and i did about 3 "normal" maps in my whole mapmaking career ;P
Ehehe? This won't get played alot, just one time offline and thats it.
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Are you kidding? I love single player maps!
Also, ask keron for waypointing(when he gets back), he may know a few tricks to make the bots work out better. And I don't think it will ever be possible to be able to "sneak up" on bots...
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Update
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Looking good, don't make it all one landscape though make differant themes.,
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Avarax, although your map looks quite nice, it doesn't offer much protection in terms of keeping your bots somewhat challenging. I've done singleplayer maps before (inf_JungleStrike, the first co-op map in existence since 2 summers ago), and have worked on the Timeline Project (More Single Player maps) After that. So I know how to make bots actually have a chance at killing you. From the looks of your map, it looks to me like the player will simply head right though the map with no trouble, barreting everything that moves. If you want, contact me, and I'll give you a few tips regarding this subject. (PM me)
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Be sure to add healing spots just like in Half-Life 2.
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Avarax, although your map looks quite nice, it doesn't offer much protection in terms of keeping your bots somewhat challenging. I've done singleplayer maps before (inf_JungleStrike, the first co-op map in existence since 2 summers ago), and have worked on the Timeline Project (More Single Player maps) After that. So I know how to make bots actually have a chance at killing you. From the looks of your map, it looks to me like the player will simply head right though the map with no trouble, barreting everything that moves. If you want, contact me, and I'll give you a few tips regarding this subject. (PM me)
well, i already decided that this will be a trenchwar map :)
i'd have designed it different if it was singleplayer. i guess if i made another attempt on a singleplayer map i'd make a big hotel.
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Yay, All that work Won't go to waste :D
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Wheres the Trenches Avarax? :D
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1 is on the newest platform, and the bridges sorta form trenches ;P
Date Posted: August 15, 2006, 04:38:33 PM
sry for double post:
here, i made this bridge for my map, it's free to use (right click -> save as)
(http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibalbridge.bmp)
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you dissappoint, i wanted to see waht you could do w/a single player map - would be badass
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Avarax: Soldat has hard map poly count limit (5k).
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i think i can handle that, i am at ~1000 atm
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Quick question, but are you going to add water to this map? It seems a bit awkward to have all of the land floating in mid-air. But, besides that, awesome map as usual.
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That looks awesome. I think it's your best work so far. Even better than your CS maps.
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Quick question, but are you going to add water to this map? It seems a bit awkward to have all of the land floating in mid-air. But, besides that, awesome map as usual.
nope, and i don't think that it creates a weird feeling, not ingame.
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True. I guess you woudn't be paying attention to the small details when you're constantly being shot at. XP
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TW = no jet fuel? How do you reach the top-left without M79 / grenades, or is that just for aesthetics?
Yeah, unfortunately it's impossible to keep bots from behaving realistically in... well, Realistic Mode :P It's just part of core programming that it seems they have an eye in the back of their heads. I guess I could waypoint it, tho'.
BTW, @ your declaration above... I've never played any map you've made. Ever. ;D (And I'm not saying you suck at mapping, definitely not)
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top left = aesthetics.
but you're wrong, in TW jet is allowed, but only to a max of about 10 jet ticks (imo), otherwise you suffer to much from falling damage.
oh and i guess you have played tropiccave at least once keron cryst ;P
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regarding the progress of the map:
33% I'd say, but I'm really slow because i find mapping actually pretty boring :D
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It's "Cy_st!" And I'm defended; you never labeled "by Avarax" or anything in there :P
EDIT ... jet is allowed, but only to a max of about 10 jet ticks (imo), otherwise you suffer to much from falling damage.
Oh, I meant fuel for any substantial height gain.
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i did, MM removed it -.-
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Very nice map, cant wait to play it at Leo's!
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Can't wait to play this on your trench map server.
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ya same here
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update
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Looking good, how much of the map is that?
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That is beautiful.
There is so much effort in this map I am just amazed.
Congratulations.
edit: Make sure your time isn't going to waste, all that lower rock area in the latest "island" wont be seen in game.
Fantastic work so far, I can't wait to see this finished.
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... Make sure your time isn't going to waste, all that lower rock area in the latest "island" wont be seen in game....
Hey, as long as the overview's aesthetics accumulate more download hits... ;)
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... Make sure your time isn't going to waste, all that lower rock area in the latest "island" wont be seen in game....
Hey, as long as the overview's aesthetics accumulate more download hits... ;)
Indeed :D
i think it's about 70% now
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/me claps .. Love the Fort :D
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That looks awsome...like no other map. I cant wait to play it =D
And some one mentioned you have a Trench map server?
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How 1337. I wish getting mouse to work here.
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I can make custom sceneries if you want. What do you want?
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nothing actually... i like to map mostly with default scenery :)
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lol. crazy... i use mainly default too but im not crazy like you,,,
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nothing actually... i like to map mostly with default scenery :)
Agreed. Custom scenery is annoying.
What texture is this?
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nothing actually... i like to map mostly with default scenery :)
Agreed. Custom scenery is annoying.
What texture is this?
What about Sk's and rir's? They're very soldat-ish
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^I mean I hate stuff like this: (http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/528/crate6qh2.jpg)
rir's and sk's are fine.
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^I mean I hate stuff like this: (http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/528/crate6qh2.jpg)
rir's and sk's are fine.
I see, and agree. But, there is other scenery that is soldatish, and you can modify things like that to make them such.
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Ahaa, so you use Soldat Polyworks to make all your maps. dam i still have the first editor, and the interface maker too.
Its a good idea, you can make a base for each team, and use weapon glitch to throw weaps randomly( make a double stat gun and a cluster nade in the middle of them, then place a poly on them).
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Fucking nice map!
The green thing over this rocky texture looks like the old B2b.. In better.
Would be great having a non trenchwar ctf_Map as beautiful as this one some day!
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B-E-A-Utiful, Where can i get it
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http://home.arcor.de/avarax/cannibals.zip
it's the unfinished beta, but it's basicly complete and playable... only thing are some bugs that are still in it.
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Are you ever going to finish it?