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Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« on: November 23, 2009, 01:10:01 am »
SpiltCoffee's
Weapon Balance Survey
For the 1.5.1 Beta Weapon Balance

Take it here: http://wbs.spiltcoffee.com
Survey ends at Friday, 1st January 2010 @ 12:00 AM GMT


FAQ
(well, more like an Anticipated FAQ)

What is this about?
There hasn't really been a survey of a weapon balance before, and it takes a long time to browse through the many posts in the Weapon Balance Discussions forum to determine what the general thoughts of each weapon or the weapon balance in general is like. So I thought I'd try a Weapon Balance Survey to compile together the views of the community regarding the current balances.

This survey in particular is aimed at the 1.5.1 Beta Weapon Balance. If you have not tried out the 1.5.1 Beta balance, or you have not played the 1.5.1 Beta, please do so first before taking this survey.

Why should I take it?
Because your opinion is what matters! I mean, we aren't going to see your votes with your name on it, but your input may have an influence on the next weapon balance. The more people who do it, as well, the more accurate the results become in discerning which weapons need to be tweaked. And it'll only take a couple of minutes!

Why do you need my e-mail address?
I don't, really, but in a mild attempt to stop people from submitting multiple surveys without me knowing, I'm assigning each survey response to the e-mail that you give. A bonus to this is that you can come back at any time during the survey period and take the survey again.

The website will only e-mail you for confirmation on your survey response, or if you wish to do it again, to remove your survey response.


Take it here: http://wbs.spiltcoffee.com
« Last Edit: November 29, 2009, 04:20:10 am by SpiltCoffee »
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 03:29:40 am »
Okay, I did the survey.

Does the confirmation really work? When I clicked the link, I merely got redirected to the first page (though with a different link), it doesn't tell me if my confirmation was properly made.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 03:30:47 am »
It should say on that page that your survey was confirmed in bold letters, although you won't notice it if you just think that it's the front page. Doesn't matter now, as long as you clicked on the link, everything should be good.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 11:18:00 am »
Done. Nice survey
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 05:58:27 am »
Remember, everyone, to confirm your survey response by clicking on the link in the e-mail that is sent to your e-mail address, or your response will be discarded.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2009, 07:07:33 am »
Come on, guys, there's nothing conclusive to pull out of 39 responses, so more people need to do the survey! And make sure you confirm it!
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2009, 04:48:43 pm »
advertise it on IRC
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2009, 07:07:41 pm »
I have been, but I'm getting a poor response on IRC with anything to do with the beta.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2009, 08:25:52 pm »
How many people have done it so far?? I just completed one.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2009, 09:39:33 pm »
42 responses. I reckon we need about a hundred before anything conclusive can be drawn from it.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2009, 09:57:43 pm »
Is it possible to get NSC to add a link to that survey in the next update? I believe it can help in getting more responses.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 04:02:18 am »
Quote from: SpiltCoffee on November 28, 2009, 09:39:33 pm
42 responses. I reckon we need about a hundred before anything conclusive can be drawn from it.
Keep advertising as you are, there's no rush. Why do you have it ending on December 1st though?
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2009, 04:19:32 am »
Because I thought there would be more participation by the community. Obviously, I was mistaken.

Extended another month.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2009, 04:26:29 am »
Quote from: SpiltCoffee on November 29, 2009, 04:19:32 am
Because I thought there would be more participation by the community. Obviously, I was mistaken.
Lots of people still don't play the beta, and of the people that do, many haven't seen this survey.

Just keep advertising everywhere you can (within limits ofc) and things will be happy. Like this smiley: :)
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2009, 08:20:18 am »
It should be stickied in portal's main page.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2009, 08:34:42 am »
Make it small enough to fit in the Portal's browser and I can slap it in there.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 08:47:16 am »
I started taking it, but when I reached question 15, (which version´s wep balance was the best) I really could not think of an answer, and also the question can´t be skipped, so I quit the survey. This question for me (and maybe other questions for other people) are too specific, and since I dont play soldat every day for years and years, it´s really difficult to answer such a question without it being a random answer (for example, I have played for many years but at some point did not play for a year or so, so theres no way I´ll remember how the wep balance of that old version compared to the new), which I thought is pointless to give. So I think maybe you would get more results if questions could be skipped. I really want to improve soldat with my input, but it seems to me this survey is made with only HARDCORE everyday players in mind, and that leaves out the majority of players I think.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2009, 08:54:59 am »
Well, not really, I am not one of those "hardcore" players.

Also ValiS, since you said it was difficult to see which weapon's balance was the best, I'll post up here the weapon balances from 1.2.1 to the current 1.5.1 beta balance. Then you can more or less judge the balances even if you don't play a lot. (hey, I never played 1.2.1 before, started Soldat at 1.3.0, never took notice of the weapons balance till about 1.4.0, and only joined the forums in 1.4.2 ya know)

Also, you can give a random answer for question 15, because question 16 asks you to explain your answer in question 15. You can then write in question 16 that you couldn't make a decision and that it was a random choice since the question couldn't be skipped. Besides, you can always go back to the previous question.

Yes, I keep a log of all weapon balances from 1.2.1 onwards.

1.2.1
Code: [Select]
// :: Weapon mod : default 1.2.1 settings by Michal Marcinkowski

[Info]
Name=Default mod 1.2.1
Version=0

[USSOCOM]
Damage=190
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=4
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=210
FireInterval=22
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=90
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=7
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[HK MP5]
Damage=120
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=105
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=2
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ak-74]
Damage=122
FireInterval=10
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=3
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=80
FireInterval=7
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=2
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Spas-12]
Damage=130
FireInterval=32
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=175
Speed=140
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=10
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ruger 77]
Damage=252
FireInterval=30
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=75
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=15
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[M79]
Damage=160000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=115
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=30
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=240
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=300
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=80
MovementAcc=6
Recoil=0

[FN Minimi]
Damage=100
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=3
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=55
FireInterval=4
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=50
Bink=1
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamer]
Damage=1000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=2
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=3
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=36
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=3
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Combat Knife]
Damage=210000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2100
FireInterval=4
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=70
Speed=70
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=60
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=600
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=0
Bink=20
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=2
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

1.3.0
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// :: Weapon mod : default settings by Michal Marcinkowski

[Info]
Name=Default mod
Version=1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=172
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=176
FireInterval=23
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=103
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[HK MP5]
Damage=108
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=95
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-25
MovementAcc=1

[Ak-74]
Damage=115
FireInterval=11
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-40
MovementAcc=1

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=73
FireInterval=7
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-35
MovementAcc=1

[Spas-12]
Damage=121
FireInterval=34
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=175
Speed=140
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Ruger 77]
Damage=243
FireInterval=32
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=115
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=18
MovementAcc=3

[M79]
Damage=165000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=110
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=25
MovementAcc=3

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=240
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=300
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=80
MovementAcc=6

[FN Minimi]
Damage=89
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-49
MovementAcc=2

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=48
FireInterval=4
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=50
Bink=-10
MovementAcc=1

[Flamer]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=39
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Combat Knife]
Damage=215000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2100
FireInterval=4
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=65
Speed=70
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=30
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=540
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=23
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=180
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

1.3.1
Code: [Select]
// :: Weapon mod : default settings by Michal Marcinkowski, Beta testing team and the community


// Changes from 1.0 -> 1.1
// HK-Mp5 : dmg -4 , speed -1
// AK : dmg -2
// Styer : bink +2
// Spas : dmg +1, speed -3
// Ruger : dmg +7, fireinterval +8, Reloadtime -15, bink -8
// M79 : 30% more self damage, bink +20
// Barret : delay added --> startuptime +25, bink +10
// Minimi : dmg -3
// Chainsaw : ammo +10, reloadtime -5
// Law : startuptime -2
// Knife : dmg +10000, to compensate the slower throw


[Info]
Name=Default mod
Version=1.1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=172
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=176
FireInterval=23
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=103
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[HK MP5]
Damage=104
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=95
Speed=189
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-25
MovementAcc=1

[Ak-74]
Damage=113
FireInterval=11
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-40
MovementAcc=1

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=73
FireInterval=7
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-33
MovementAcc=1

[Spas-12]
Damage=122
FireInterval=34
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=175
Speed=137
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Ruger 77]
Damage=250
FireInterval=40
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=100
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=10
MovementAcc=3

[M79]
Damage=165000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=110
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=45
MovementAcc=3

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=240
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=300
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=25
Bink=90
MovementAcc=6

[FN Minimi]
Damage=86
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-49
MovementAcc=2

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=48
FireInterval=4
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=50
Bink=-10
MovementAcc=1

[Flamer]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=39
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Combat Knife]
Damage=225000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2100
FireInterval=4
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=60
Speed=70
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=30
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=540
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=21
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=180
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1

1.4.0
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// :: Weapon mod : default settings by Michal Marcinkowski, Beta testing team and the community


// Changes from 1.3.1 -> 1.4
// Deagles : dmg +2, reload -8
// HK MP5 : dmg -3, reload +10, bink +14
// AK : dmg -10, fireinterval -1, moveacc +1, bink +23
// Steyr : moveacc +1, bink +11
// Spas : speed +1, fireinterval -2
// Ruger : dmg +2, reload -5
// M79 : speed -3, bink -5
// Barret : moveacc +1, bink +10
// Minimi : dmg -1, moveacc +2, bink +35
// Minigun : dmg +1, bink +4
// Socom : dmg -1
// Knife : --
// Chainsaw : fireinterval -2, speed +6, reload +60, ammo +100
// LAW : reload -60


[Info]
Name=Default mod
Version=1.4

[USSOCOM]
Damage=171
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=178
FireInterval=23
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=95
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[HK MP5]
Damage=101
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=105
Speed=189
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-11
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ak-74]
Damage=103
FireInterval=10
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-17
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=73
FireInterval=7
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-22
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[Spas-12]
Damage=122
Fireinterval=32
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=175
Speed=138
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ruger 77]
Damage=252
FireInterval=40
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=95
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=10
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[M79]
Damage=165000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=107
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=40
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=240
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=300
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=25
Bink=100
MovementAcc=7
Recoil=0

[FN Minimi]
Damage=85
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-14
MovementAcc=4
Recoil=0

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=49
FireInterval=4
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=50
Bink=-6
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamer]
Damage=270
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=39
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Combat Knife]
Damage=225000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2100
FireInterval=2
Ammo=150
ReloadTime=120
Speed=76
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=30
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=480
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=21
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=180
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

1.4.1 and 1.4.2

Note: 1.4.2 is almost exactly the same as 1.4.1 except Flamer:
// Changes from 1.4.1 -> 1.4.2
// Flamer :   dmg +400
Code: [Select]
// :: Weapon mod : default settings by Michal Marcinkowski, Skoskav and with rest of Beta testing team and the community


// Changes from 1.4 -> 1.4.1
// Deagles : reload -1
// HK MP5 : dmg +1
// Ak : bink +1
// Ruger : reload +5
// Minimi : bink +2
// Minigun : dmg +1
// Chainsaw : reload -30

[Info]
Name=Default mod
Version=1.4.1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=171
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=178
FireInterval=23
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=94
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[HK MP5]
Damage=102
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=105
Speed=189
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-11
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ak-74]
Damage=103
FireInterval=10
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-16
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=73
FireInterval=7
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-22
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[Spas-12]
Damage=122
Fireinterval=32
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=175
Speed=138
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ruger 77]
Damage=252
FireInterval=40
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=100
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=10
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[M79]
Damage=165000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=107
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=40
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=240
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=300
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=25
Bink=100
MovementAcc=7
Recoil=0

[FN Minimi]
Damage=85
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-12
MovementAcc=4
Recoil=0

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=50
FireInterval=4
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=50
Bink=-6
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamer]
Damage=1500
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=39
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Combat Knife]
Damage=225000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2100
FireInterval=2
Ammo=150
ReloadTime=90
Speed=76
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=30
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=480
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=21
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=180
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

1.5.0
Code: [Select]
// Codename: Makunouchi

// Changes from 1.4.2 -> 1.5
// Deagles      dmg +2, reload -4
// HK MP5       dmg +1, bink +11
// Ak           dmg -1, bink +9
// Steyr        dmg +1, ammo -5, bink +3
// Spas         speed +1, ammo +1
// Ruger        dmg -6, reload -10, bink -10
// M79          --
// Barret       fireinterval -15
// Minimi       moveacc -1, bink +5
// Minigun      dmg +1, fireinterval -1, bink +3, startup -5
// Socom        dmg +3
// Knife        dmg -10000
// Chainsaw     reload -30
// LAW          reload -60, startup -4

[Info]
Name=Default mod
Version=1.5

[USSOCOM]
Damage=174
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=180
FireInterval=23
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=90
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[HK MP5]
Damage=103
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=105
Speed=189
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ak-74]
Damage=102
FireInterval=10
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-7
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=74
FireInterval=7
Ammo=25
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-19
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[Spas-12]
Damage=122
Fireinterval=32
Ammo=8
ReloadTime=175
Speed=139
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ruger 77]
Damage=246
FireInterval=40
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=90
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[M79]
Damage=165000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=107
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=40
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=225
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=300
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=25
Bink=100
MovementAcc=7
Recoil=0

[FN Minimi]
Damage=85
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=-7
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=51
FireInterval=3
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=45
Bink=-3
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamer]
Damage=1900
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=39
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Combat Knife]
Damage=215000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2100
FireInterval=2
Ammo=150
ReloadTime=60
Speed=76
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=30
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=420
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=17
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=180
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

1.5.1 BETA Sogeking v13
Code: [Select]
// Codename: Sogeking v13

// Changes from 1.5 -> 1.5.1
// Deagles      dmg +2, fireinterval -1, moveacc -1
// HK MP5       --
// Ak           dmg +1, bink +7, moveacc -1
// Steyr        dmg +1, bink +19, moveacc -1
// Spas         dmg +1, speed -2, moveacc -1
// Ruger        dmg +3, moveacc -1
// M79          bink -15
// Barrett      reload -140, startup -10
// Minimi       dmg -1, bink +7, moveacc -1
// Minigun      dmg +7, fireinterval +1, reload -86, bink +3, moveacc -1, startup -15
// Socom        dmg +1, reload -15, moveacc -1
// Knife        --
// Chainsaw     dmg +400, speed -6, fireinterval -1, ammo +105, reload -59
// LAW          reload -120, fireinterval -24, moveacc -1, startup -3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Info]
Name=Default mod
Version=1.5.1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=175
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=50
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0

[Desert Eagles]
Damage=182
FireInterval=22
Ammo=7
ReloadTime=90
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0

[HK MP5]
Damage=103
FireInterval=6
Ammo=30
ReloadTime=105
Speed=189
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Ak-74]
Damage=103
FireInterval=10
Ammo=40
ReloadTime=150
Speed=240
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Steyr AUG]
Damage=75
FireInterval=7
Ammo=25
ReloadTime=115
Speed=260
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Spas-12]
Damage=123
Fireinterval=32
Ammo=8
ReloadTime=175
Speed=137
BulletStyle=3
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0

[Ruger 77]
Damage=249
FireInterval=40
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=90
Speed=330
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[M79]
Damage=165000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=180
Speed=107
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=25
MovementAcc=3
Recoil=0

[Barret M82A1]
Damage=495
FireInterval=225
Ammo=10
ReloadTime=160
Speed=550
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=15
Bink=100
MovementAcc=7
Recoil=0

[FN Minimi]
Damage=84
FireInterval=9
Ammo=50
ReloadTime=250
Speed=270
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=0

[XM214 Minigun]
Damage=58
FireInterval=4
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=280
Speed=290
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=30
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0

[Flamer]
Damage=1900
FireInterval=6
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=5
Speed=105
BulletStyle=5
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Rambo Bow]
Damage=1200
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=25
Speed=210
BulletStyle=7
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Flamed Arrows]
Damage=800
FireInterval=10
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=39
Speed=180
BulletStyle=8
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Combat Knife]
Damage=215000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=60
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Chainsaw]
Damage=2500
FireInterval=1
Ammo=255
ReloadTime=1
Speed=70
BulletStyle=11
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[M72 LAW]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=300
Speed=230
BulletStyle=12
StartUpTime=14
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0

[Punch]
Damage=33000
FireInterval=6
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=3
Speed=50
BulletStyle=6
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Grenade]
Damage=150000
FireInterval=80
Ammo=1
ReloadTime=20
Speed=50
BulletStyle=2
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

[Stationary Gun]
Damage=180
FireInterval=10
Ammo=100
ReloadTime=366
Speed=360
BulletStyle=14
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0
« Last Edit: November 29, 2009, 09:12:39 am by STM1993 »
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2009, 09:47:39 am »
Dont get me wrong, I do play almost every day, some days more some days just a round. Thanks for  the numbers, but I really dont have the motivation to crunch them. I mean I dont want to sound like an ignorant kid but soldat is not about numbers (In some ways of course it is, but I mean if I wanted to look at a lot of numbers if would pick up book-keeping  ;D ) and I am not able to deduce the feel of the game from wep values. Its also difficult to answer which are my primary weps if I use pretty much all of them (which can be viewed as a compliment to the balance). Thanks for triyng to help me, but dont bother with the stats. Im still gonna take the survey again and "skip" that question.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 09:54:58 am »
Alright then, though you could take the numbers posted here and copy it into your weapons.ini file (make a backup first) and then try it out with bots to get a basic feel :)
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2009, 07:39:08 pm »
So it's only that question you didn't like? I'll make it skippable, I guess, but I expect people to be able to answer the rest.

And EnEsCe, can't you just put a link to the survey somewhere on the Portal as opposed to actually trying to fit it in there? :P
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2009, 07:50:14 pm »
lazy ppl (me included) dont gonna pay attention to the link there. So its better make a thing that fit there.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2009, 06:49:07 am »
hardly any 1.5.1 beta games... <3 how you're disappointed at the number of responses --> the true reaction of an academic, not a gamer
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2009, 03:33:35 pm »
Quote from: ~viper~ on December 03, 2009, 06:49:07 am
the true reaction of an academic, not a gamer
:D.

I'm concerned for the community, and this is my attempt to try and get their point of view over something that changes the way they play the game... and they don't seem very willing to give it D:.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2009, 08:00:30 am »
Whats with the infinite ammo saw in 1.5.1? Kinda wierd since you can keep holding the trigger like its a flamer.
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 11:37:47 am »
Quote from: numgun on December 04, 2009, 08:00:30 am
Whats with the infinite ammo saw in 1.5.1? Kinda wierd since you can keep holding the trigger like its a flamer.
Because saw's actually useless even after that buff, but we still want to make it have unlimited ammo anyway. The reason why MM originally added a reload to the saw was because of saw camping, but now saw camping isn't really that effective anyway.

If you want to discuss that further, bring it to the weapons balance forum, not this thread. This thread is for questions about the survey, but thanks for bumping =)
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Re: Weapon Balance Survey - 1.5.1 Beta
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2009, 01:01:36 pm »
I see, but I will say that you guys are under estimating the saw. ;)
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