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Title: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: imacheater2k7 on February 05, 2007, 02:57:25 pm
This is a new mode for Soldat. Destructible Objects should be placed inside tunnels and enclosed areas. Bravo team must prevent Alpha from destroying these objects. If they are destroyed, the bunker has officially fallen. Bravo team must survive the game time limit to win.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Horve on February 05, 2007, 03:01:18 pm
THINGS THAT SHOULD NOT BE SUGGESTED HERE: Destructible terrain, liquids, VEHICLES, mobile polygons (these would require a gigantic map format change as already covered above, they would be huge changes to gameplay which would disgust many players, even more glitches would result from them, etc.)

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Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Sytrus on February 05, 2007, 03:26:58 pm
This comes pretty close to actual infiltration, it's just easyer for Alpha.

But I could imagine that as pretty funny, maybe find another way without destructable shizzle.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Keron Cyst on February 05, 2007, 03:28:37 pm
Yeah, sorry but Horve's right :P This would require a map format change (to be able to place interactive objects, and also the coding for them as well), which will not be implemented unless MM specifically says so. Sorry.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: M.rSnow on February 05, 2007, 03:44:12 pm
Horve you dont have to be so hard on the guy. Hes just new..
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Napalmi on February 05, 2007, 04:04:41 pm
Horve you dont have to be so hard on the guy. Hes just new..
Yeah man, you totally bashed this guy... clam down ...
yeah the DB idea is from Call of cuty, i liked it personally, but the fact that soldat cant have destructiable terrain restricts is. else nice... you could play this with many blue team flags in the field? after all of them have been captured, red team has won
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: imacheater2k7 on February 05, 2007, 06:39:24 pm
Hmmm.... The flag idea sounds pretty decent. And I think Horve was just making a point, I don't feel he was TOO hard. I think I'll try to make this with the flags.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Napalmi on February 06, 2007, 04:43:59 am
tell us how it went
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Zegovia on February 06, 2007, 05:02:20 am
Would be intresting, but as said doussins of times before, wont happen! :(

But the alpha team already have objects to destroy.... the Bravos.... :P
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Napalmi on February 06, 2007, 05:25:38 am
hah true, but i tried also this multiple-flags thing.
Heres how it went:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6883/gamemodeia0.jpg

lil fix-up. and it could be make as an non-official-gamemode:
like dodgeball
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Zegovia on February 06, 2007, 06:29:13 am
hah true, but i tried also this multiple-flags thing.
Heres how it went:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6883/gamemodeia0.jpg

lil fix-up. and it could be make as an non-official-gamemode:
like dodgeball

Hey! that sounds pretty good....
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Mr. Domino on February 06, 2007, 09:57:29 am
This would require a map format change (to be able to place interactive objects, and also the coding for them as well), which will not be implemented unless MM specifically says so. Sorry.

I don't see that being a problem as current maps without any interactive element would still be without and not require any changes. The Soldat program itself would decipher if a PMS file had such and such used before implementing it in game. At least, that's what I think. :P Still don't ever see this happening though.

hah true, but i tried also this multiple-flags thing.
Heres how it went:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6883/gamemodeia0.jpg

lil fix-up. and it could be make as an non-official-gamemode:
like dodgeball

I already tried that for !Elite Party, and from my experience people just end up confused. Plus, while it usually works, there will be times here and there that the random flag will get returned by the player holding the enemy flag instead of scoring it when touched.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Napalmi on February 06, 2007, 10:45:13 am
thats normal, theres always that kind of idiot non-cappers
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: LeetFidle on February 06, 2007, 11:19:33 am
i think soldat dosnt need anymore modes, this probably wouldnt be played very much like rambo and inf
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Napalmi on February 06, 2007, 12:05:30 pm
cept inf is plaeyd alot

but yeah....soldat doesnt need more gamemodes
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Flying Dutchman on February 06, 2007, 05:21:09 pm
I agree, soldat doesn't any more modes although Napalmi's idea sounds Awesome!!!
Another thing I would love for TW is a system Company of Heroes uses (although that's an RTS) like 3 or 4 points on the map, which have to be captured. The team which has the most points controlled earns x points per x time (or the other team loses x points per x time untill it reaches zero). But I'm sure that has been suggested before.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Zegovia on February 07, 2007, 05:44:20 am
When you think of all the sub-gamemodes that people like Avarax cook together... i doupt MM will have to add new gamemodes....
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Napalmi on February 07, 2007, 12:48:05 pm
lol yeah, with weapon modding and weird map-making theres like unlimited possibilities :D
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on February 07, 2007, 12:49:37 pm
Yeah, sorry but Horve's right :P This would require a map format change (to be able to place interactive objects, and also the coding for them as well), which will not be implemented unless MM specifically says so. Sorry.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Ziem on February 11, 2007, 09:14:33 am
Who really cares about new game modes?
These are fine ...
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: silent assasin on February 15, 2007, 02:05:52 pm
Actually, this gave me a great idea! I'm going to make Infiltration maps that look like factories, and things like that, and there will be bots, but they'll have way points where they just walk up and down the halls, and you have to time jumps, and hide behind scenery to get to the flag, and then rush out, since they'll all storm you! Also, it could be realistic, so you have a harder time, and also, once you kill a guard, they're gone for good. Is this a good idea? Feel free to make maps like this, if you like it, as long as you could send them to me... :P
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Mr. Domino on February 15, 2007, 06:44:06 pm
Actually, this gave me a great idea! I'm going to make Infiltration maps that look like factories, and things like that, and there will be bots, but they'll have way points where they just walk up and down the halls, and you have to time jumps, and hide behind scenery to get to the flag, and then rush out, since they'll all storm you! Also, it could be realistic, so you have a harder time, and also, once you kill a guard, they're gone for good. Is this a good idea? Feel free to make maps like this, if you like it, as long as you could send them to me... :P

Bots aren't fooled by camping behind scenery. You can't do espionage with bots.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Raithah on February 15, 2007, 09:37:44 pm
Heh. I made a little change to his idea, locking Bravos inside of rocks as the 'destructible' parts and having incoming Alphas attempt to kill 'em. It's Inf mode so all Bravo has to do is protect itself for as long as it can.

Play with Survival, no guns (except Stat. Guns), 5 bonus frequency and no grenades. Enjoy ;).
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: silent assasin on February 16, 2007, 07:39:08 pm
Wait...How would Bravos kill the alphas if they were stuck in rocks and without weaponry?
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: Raithah on February 17, 2007, 01:28:35 am
Used an old trick of mine. The first to a stat gun gets control of it, but they can't hit people immediately beside them. So the Alphas need to grab the guns, the bravos need to hold 'em :).

You could enable guns, it'd just let the bravos in the rocks shoot. Oh, there are spawns outside of the rocks too.
Title: Re: Destroy the Bunker Mode
Post by: KingOfPing on February 18, 2007, 10:14:59 pm
The flag idea sounds cool. Say 10-20 flags. on maps?