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Title: Why 20kb?
Post by: 0xSilentx0 on June 25, 2006, 01:13:00 am
I mean seriously...People cant release their true sig designing skills when the yonly have 20kb of working space...I know theres like bandwidth or whatever and I dotn know anything about it so it must be hard, but is it possible to get atleast a little more in?

OH YEAH AND SIG REQUESTS(For other forums :P)  ;D

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagcetera/rainbowstudioslogo.png)

Layout:

Name:
Style:See beloww
Render:(find one on gamerenders.com please)

Style Examples:

Anime Splatter
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/bleachmusic.jpg)

Smudge Industrial:
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/adventchildrensig2.jpg)

Sharp Smudge:
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/killzonesmudge.jpg)

Those are the simple styles...If you want something else go to my photobucket
http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/

And find a style and include it in your request layout
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on June 25, 2006, 01:20:21 am
its 20KB because you shouldn't need more if you know anything about compression and how to save your file right.

big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: 0xSilentx0 on June 25, 2006, 01:24:03 am
If you compress most images, they end up with crappy quality...
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: The Bone Collector on June 25, 2006, 01:27:59 am
big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month
Yup, stupid Australian ISPs are bastards..we get crap limits ova here!
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: 0xSilentx0 on June 25, 2006, 01:29:01 am
Well it was worth asking =/...
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on June 25, 2006, 01:29:15 am
If you compress most images, they end up with crappy quality...

not if you do it right and with a decent program that can optimize the image without losing data
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: 0xSilentx0 on June 25, 2006, 01:29:50 am
Really?..Can you suggest one?...A program like that could be of great use to me
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on June 25, 2006, 01:31:40 am
gimp, photoshop....
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: mar77a on June 25, 2006, 01:32:15 am
its 20KB because you shouldn't need more if you know anything about compression and how to save your file right.

big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month

you forgot south america
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: 0xSilentx0 on June 25, 2006, 01:37:05 am
hmph...Photoshop makes the quality suck, It's what I use to make the sigs -_-;;
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Chakra on June 25, 2006, 01:45:25 am
big signitures are kept to a limit because we're here to ....like...talk about stuff. On a forum. Not show off trend-whoring useless meaningless pointless shitty crappy space-taking hardcore pussy nigger bollocks when i'm trying to read what you twisted lifeless boring people who waste time in paintshop loving up the wind-blur tool yet somehow knowing feck all about built in compression techniques are posting on my bloody forums!

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Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: 0xSilentx0 on June 25, 2006, 01:55:12 am
Yes I needed that...Although I see your view in this situation, IT TAKES MORE SKILL MAKING SIGS THAN COMPRESSING THEM..

........jackass


Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: m00` on June 25, 2006, 01:58:03 am
hey cool I just made a 69kb image into a 24 kb image and it looks EXACTLY the same

new one:
(http://m00.laughingllamas.com/data/m00/killzonesmudge.gif)

old one:
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/killzonesmudge.jpg)
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: The Red Guy on June 25, 2006, 02:01:22 am
I just compress the image into a png file, always works for me.
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Keron Cyst on June 25, 2006, 02:35:22 am
...

If you just want to compress something, just use IrfanView (http://irfanview.com).
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: T-Bone on June 25, 2006, 02:40:10 am
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Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: chrono on June 25, 2006, 02:41:18 am
big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month

So true rofl... but WHY DO U CARE? I mean, WHY NOT 20KB??they couldv made it 10 Kb
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: frogboy on June 25, 2006, 04:19:17 am
hey cool I just made a 69kb image into a 24 kb image and it looks EXACTLY the same
Yeah, but .gif is so not trendy.
big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month
Luckily their meters fuck up and end up giving you 20GB+ in a month. Besides, don't forget the 56kers.
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Mr. Domino on June 25, 2006, 04:27:22 am
hey cool I just made a 69kb image into a 24 kb image and it looks EXACTLY the same

new one:
(http://m00.laughingllamas.com/data/m00/killzonesmudge.gif)

old one:
(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/killzonesmudge.jpg)


Only four more kilobytes to go!  :)

I love Paint Shop Pro 7 and Animation Shop 3. I'm no uber graphics artists, but I can do what I want with those.
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: The Bone Collector on June 25, 2006, 04:59:33 am
how in the hell do I seem to compress 109kb sigs (like the one below) into 18 nad 20 kb images, and not lose any quality what so ever?
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Atomic Hype on June 25, 2006, 05:47:38 am
Just thought I would interject.

You can change it to not view sigs aye?

So anyone with a slow connection should (logically) have that specific box checked.

And therefore, an extra 5-10kb per image that aren't even being loaded, aren't going to have any affect on slow connections.


:E
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on June 25, 2006, 11:09:25 am
yes, but we shouldn't have to require those people to turn it off.  Forums are meant for talking, not for huge signatures.  As we proved in this thread, 20KB is enough for even the most aesthetically pleasting signature image

edit: original: 69KB

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/killzonesmudge.jpg)

new VV 8.59KB - and I could have done it a couple more times to increase the quality, but I don't think you see any significant difference between these two, if any.


edit2: all I did with the second one was open it in gimp, and save it again.
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Lord Jaws on June 25, 2006, 12:08:44 pm
Depends how you save your file, and how you decrease the bytes of your sig.. My standart sigs are
25 kb to 72 kb, and I have not even cut their sizes down...  and gimp is easy to do, but its also possible in photoshop, You just need to do it right! Just that you CAN'T do it, it doen't mean it is not possible....
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Atomic Hype on June 25, 2006, 02:47:57 pm
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Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: Mistercharles on June 25, 2006, 04:32:13 pm
Mmm, photoshop .gif compression. If you have photoshop, and the sig doesn't revolve around gradients, use gif.
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: a-4-year-old on June 25, 2006, 08:19:40 pm
how in the hell do I seem to compress 109kb sigs (like the one below) into 18 nad 20 kb images, and not lose any quality what so ever?
use a loophole like a link to the sig, thats pretty stupid but if you really have to then go ahead.
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on June 25, 2006, 08:22:01 pm
if anyone believes a certain sig image can't be compressed to be under 20KB, give it to me and I'll show you  that it can be done ;) (I'm not saying I'm going to convert images for lazy people.  If that happens, the offer goes away)
Title: Re: Why 20kb?
Post by: The Bone Collector on June 25, 2006, 09:09:59 pm
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if anyone believes a certain sig image can't be compressed to be under 20KB, give it to me and I'll show you  that it can be done
I know it can be done, cause I do it all the time...Although I like the quality of my images to be high, so my images seem to hit 18kb and 20kb. I definately do not doubt that it can't be done.