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Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: Kapser on February 20, 2007, 07:41:52 pm

Title: New secondary weapons
Post by: Kapser on February 20, 2007, 07:41:52 pm
I think that soldat already got a good number of weapons, but I tough that maybe it would be nice to have additionnal secondary weapons.

Here are those I'd like to see: A katana and a shield. Katana would be some kind of mix of chainsaw and knife's stabbing, and shield could be a very small 360degree controllable round shield (not a swat shield) to block and maybe reflect bullets. I think it would be fun and balanceable.

So what you guys think? Do you think it would be cool or soldat got enough secondary weapons?

edit: Sorry, I just read that thing that says he does want new weapon as suggestion.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: SDFilm on February 20, 2007, 08:17:16 pm
I might actualy like a katana and shield, but MM said that there will never be any new weapons, plus the shield would be hard to code as it would have to be somesort of portable collider.

Please read the stickys before posting. http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=7292.0
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Keron Cyst on February 21, 2007, 01:10:44 am
edit: Sorry, I just read that thing that says he does want new weapon as suggestion.
He does? Where? I've never seen that. Or did you mean he "doesn't"?
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: ultraman on February 21, 2007, 02:36:50 am
I think he means doesn't.
However, I think a shield that reflect bullets would be great fun, you could just use it to block the shots, or maybe if you timed it right, send the bullet back at them :D
Such a pity there won't be any new guns, I think this is the first new gun idea that I've actually liked :(
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: iDante on February 21, 2007, 02:42:16 am
no, I dont, a knife and a saw are all that are needed. While a shield would be cool I dont think anyone would use it.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: {depth}shaman on February 21, 2007, 04:14:12 am
i would use a shield. In combo with shotgun or mp5, it would be great to run up on snipers or longer range guns.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Zegovia on February 21, 2007, 07:20:59 am
The riot shield idea has been around for some time, come to think of it....

Who uses a riot shield in a dense jungle anyway?!!!
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Kapser on February 21, 2007, 11:49:40 am
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plus the shield would be hard to code as it would have to be somesort of portable collider.
Totally right. Wouldnt have to reflect bullets tho. But as people said, noone would use it, but I think that's what would be interresting :)
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Or did you mean he "doesn't"?
Yeah, i meant doesn't, stupid mistake.
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Who uses a riot shield in a dense jungle anyway?!!!
Well, I'd like a small shield that you control like the saw more than a riot shield(too big).
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: excruciator on February 21, 2007, 12:06:54 pm
I like the idea. the shield should have the same(or more) life as the actual person and it should be worn like a primary because its over powered( over protective)

edit: and it should slow u down quite a bit
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Sytrus on February 21, 2007, 01:12:53 pm
I like the shield idea, but it should be like you cannot shoot while carrieing it.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Kapser on February 21, 2007, 04:24:32 pm
excruciator : I think it could have a good ammount or infinite of life if it was small, because I don't think it would be so overpowered since you can't shoot and doesnt protect the legs+you have to aim if you want your head protected (could save you from a snipe shot tho). But if it was a bigger swat shield, it's true it should slow you down pretty much and have limited durability.

Sytrus: you definatly wouldnt be able to shoot, just like any secondary weapon, or it would be damn good :P
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: SDFilm on February 21, 2007, 04:33:51 pm
Well I was thinking of having it as a saw-only weapon, similar to the saw+Mcvest idea (http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=10224.0). Because at the moment, the saw can only be effectively used as a shock weapon- charging down hills or getting it out at the last minute. A shield would help to give it a change against primary weapons; but like the Mcvest idea, the shield must ONLY by used with the saw (and maybe knife) so that it does not act like having two primary weaps (as the saw is a secondary weap, afterall).

Though even with the shield, I guess it'll still have to be used as a shock weapon or you'll be running about like a boogy man. Because of this, I think the idea of having it as a secondary weap would be good as it'll be an intresting trade-off of one of the secondary weapons or extra defence.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on February 21, 2007, 05:10:06 pm
Nah, if MM made it possible to double-wield, I would make the TWO weapons be: throwing knife, pistol.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: SDFilm on February 21, 2007, 05:14:26 pm
^But then that's just using two secondaries.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: iDante on February 21, 2007, 06:14:15 pm
Too bad he WONT make it possible to double-wield.
and if he did I would go double ak. 3 hit kill with good accuracy.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: silent assasin on February 21, 2007, 06:59:12 pm
I did a simple image+text mod to turn my chainsaw into a katana and my knife into a kunai.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: KingOfPing on February 21, 2007, 09:52:53 pm
I would love a shield! this is the best suggestion ever! I hope it get through
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Keron Cyst on February 22, 2007, 12:12:57 am
There will never be any new weapons or such tools added to Soldat. If you want a Riot Shield, play Cortex Command (http://datarealms.com) :D
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Napalmi on February 22, 2007, 08:02:43 am
after all, barrett would cut trough that shield like butter. its made for busting up tanks, recall?
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Zamorak on February 22, 2007, 08:56:20 am
There is no need for a different type of secondary weapons, you have a viable weapon for each type already.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: SDFilm on February 22, 2007, 03:52:39 pm
after all, barrett would cut trough that shield like butter. its made for busting up tanks, recall?

Yea, but mp5 can kill someone in 1-3 hits.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: iDante on February 22, 2007, 04:25:50 pm
If there were a shield I think it would only block autos, I can see a berrett using it as an anti-bink kinda thing.
And it wouldn't completely block them, just 2/3 of them
Not that ther ewill be a shield...
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Murderfly on February 22, 2007, 04:48:59 pm
Not very good ideas. We don't need more weapons, and if we would get more weapons, it wouldn't be a longer version of what we already have (knife) and an item that would no doubt mess up every other weapon (shield). Further discussion is useless.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: iDante on February 22, 2007, 04:56:04 pm
Not very good ideas. We don't need more weapons, and if we would get more weapons, it wouldn't be a longer version of what we already have (knife) and an item that would no doubt mess up every other weapon (shield). Further discussion is useless.

I'll agree with that
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on February 22, 2007, 05:42:59 pm
^But then that's just using two secondaries.
Who cares. Better if we use those with mains.
Title: Re: New secondary weapons
Post by: iDante on February 22, 2007, 06:03:00 pm
two secondaries will never be implemented