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Soldat Maps & Mapmaking => Mapping Ideas / General Discussions => Topic started by: Avarax on June 29, 2006, 03:13:40 pm
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There are many variations of soldat out there.... climb maps, race maps, dodgeball maps, cs maps, football maps.... all that stuff.
but there is one missing.
There is no Trenchwar Server.
and that's going to change. i will buy me a server with only trenchwar maps and realistic ctf mode. but for that, i will need your help. there is only one really good trenchwar map out there so far, which is ctf_complex9 by Boxo.
I want you! Make me some nice trenchwar maps! I will take good works and upload it to my server, and the author's will get admin there.
here are the basic rules for creating a trenchwar map.
1. Only one way. (small short tunnels allowed.)
2. Flag Spawns are closer to the middle of the map than Player spawns, like on b2b.
3. the maps are veeeeery flat. only small hills and trenches for cover, and not much height difference over the whole map.
4. they should be filled with small bunkers, and tactical towers.
5. Almost no jet! Even less than cs maps.
6. no big buildings, mostly all action should go on outside.
here are examples to help your imagination:
home.arcor.de/avarax/trench1.JPG (http://home.arcor.de/avarax/trench1.JPG) ctf_moats (my work in progress trenchwar map)
home.arcor.de/avarax/trench2.JPG (http://home.arcor.de/avarax/trench2.JPG) ctf_complex9
i'll need at least 5-7 maps to start a server. so go to work my friends :D
ppl intending to do a trenchwar map:
-Avarax
-Flying Dutchman
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It sounds interesting :D I might do one.
EDIT: You switched around the img links. Better go fix that :P
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Damnit avarax, I was working on the SAME EXACT THING :(
But I'll "help."
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Yea, this idea is great! Back to world war uno! Has anyone seen Boxo around lately? Cause it would be nice if he could help too.
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cant wait to see... it better be R/S too... and maybe increase all damage... so anything really hurts...
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no, with survival you wouldnt have to fight for each centimeter.
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Oh awesome stuff.
Yeah, better suited for realistic. Can't wait for it.
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I don't think they need a new prefix, you could go with ctf_, and after a bunch of maps come together, you could do a mappack.
It would also be awesome with reversed flag positions too. WW2 style!
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A prefix would be helpful. Like in other "pseudomodes" - db, kz, rce...
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Yea, Demonics suggestion sounds great, although it would be hard to score I think.
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It would also be awesome with reversed flag positions too. WW2 style!
awesome idea!
ill experiment that when the server is online
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only trenchwar maps?
what about hide and seek soldat?
what about escaping or puzzle soldat?
dont concentrate on some trenchwar maps....
think about it, there can be something more interesting made than umm trenchwars, but a good idea nevertheless.
*snip*
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*snip*
I like this idea // Gamemode... Might make a server for it aswell ;)
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Well, nice flaming guys... ::)
Anyways, everybody has a different taste. Vigg may not like it, but I and many other people do. If someone doesn't understand how this can be fun, go play Boxo's complex9 first.
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flames extinguished
I like this and would probably make a server for it as well :D
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Interesting ...............
*Photoshop Start*
*Polyworks Start*
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heh... Ill make a map but itll prolly suck.
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aye, we got x-tender :D
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I may help ye out, but I still don't support a seperate prefix.
Mainly, because then it would go into a different section of the forums, and not in the 'Flag maps' part. Which is bad.
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Sounds fun and interestin, I'll make a map pack... ;)
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Trenchwar, gamemode perfect for me, always loved maps like lagrange, and Dutchies Tranquil. So these trecnhwar maps will be so much fun to play.
Would make a Trenchwar map if wasnt for the fact that i stink at map making. So im just gonna let dutchie do the work and ill just help him instead (playing and complaining) :)
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I may help ye out, but I still don't support a seperate prefix.
Mainly, because then it would go into a different section of the forums, and not in the 'Flag maps' part. Which is bad.
?? Why it would go into a different section? It's still CTF. Do we have "Dodgeball" or RS section?
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@demonics: it would be ctf_tw_map ;)
@jrgp: lets see who's faster ;(
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I may help ye out, but I still don't support a seperate prefix.
Mainly, because then it would go into a different section of the forums, and not in the 'Flag maps' part. Which is bad.
?? Why it would go into a different section? It's still CTF. Do we have "Dodgeball" or RS section?
Err, yeah, it's CTF, but reverse.
Besides, I see ctf_cs maps and they're in the CTF section.
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Oh, silly me, I thought it would be tw_mapname, not ctf_tw_mapname.
Nevermind then, to the drawing board!
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I have a few Questions before I start.
Is there a MAX size? e.g. 6-8 Players == 6 Screen sizes.
I always have the problem with the Flags... where they have to be and where they have to go?! :) ..
Can I use Custom stuff? ;)
Is there a file limit? (no i dont want to create a HUUUGE scenary/background image [i hate that])
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Oh, silly me, I thought it would be tw_mapname, not ctf_tw_mapname....
Er... what? ??? Is this to be a whole new game mode, or just a custom DM variant?
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Hi,avarax first i want to say your server rocks.
on subject:Me and and my map partner -wildbill- would loove to help you with your server by making maps.we'll get started on it. :)
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Count me in, I'll make a map or 2.
Edit:
It's nice to see X-Tender around.
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I have a few Questions before I start.
Is there a MAX size? e.g. 6-8 Players == 6 Screen sizes.
I always have the problem with the Flags... where they have to be and where they have to go?! :) ..
Can I use Custom stuff? ;)
Is there a file limit? (no i dont want to create a HUUUGE scenary/background image [i hate that])
the server will be 10vs10 i think... but the map should be very big.
sure you can use custom scenery.
the flags should be one screen away from the playerspawns.
file limit... 3 MB :D
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I have a few Questions before I start.
Is there a MAX size? e.g. 6-8 Players == 6 Screen sizes.
I always have the problem with the Flags... where they have to be and where they have to go?! :) ..
Can I use Custom stuff? ;)
Is there a file limit? (no i dont want to create a HUUUGE scenary/background image [i hate that])
the server will be 10vs10 i think... but the map should be very big.
sure you can use custom scenery.
the flags should be one screen away from the playerspawns.
file limit... 3 MB :D
10vs10? Sure sounds exciting.
Anyway, I have free time today and tomorrow, so I'll make one.
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And where did the flags have to go? .. :/ .. can you make me a small gfx ?
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uhm no i meant 10 slot server, so... 5vs5 ;D
@ X-tender:
___red________rflag______________________________ ________________________bflag_________blue____
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aah and the red one must grab the bflag and take back? ..
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Yo i made one here it is its kinda small but i like. it also it forces you straight through enemy base so u should like.
Sry i have no screeny i tryed and it said that it was a inviald file just download it and check it out plz i am sry.
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Me and and my map partner -wildbill- would loove to help you with your server by making maps.we'll get started on it. :)
yeah, lol, count me in. I'll have some to submit by July 3rd, I hope. Im thinking like a WWI kinda deal
also, I dont really care about having admin or not. it seems like at the rate youre going you'll have plenty as it is lol. ;)
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uhm no i meant 10 slot server, so... 5vs5 ;D
Waa!! Oh well.
___red________rflag______________________________________________________bflag_________blue____
What? It's not reverse CTF?!
@Chrono: That's like a TW version of CTF_Death!
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So is anyone gona check out my map at all....dont make me cry!!!
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ill check tomorrow ;)
@eagles arrows: ill experiment with reverse once the server is online.
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PM me how i can make it better i have four more in progress.
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i tested the map kinky, but im sorry to say that, you did totally not understand my idea :/
the map should be totally flat...
it should be like lagrance
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Hey avarax, I made a tw map:
Edit:
fixed colliders, I'll expand later, it may take a bit so I'll leaving it at this for now.
Ctf_tw_chemical
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Well is it at least a map woth useing......... :'(
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no ;p
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wraithlike: good map, you match my guidline very well :) maybe you can make it a little bigger in width. also you should reduce the jetpack even more, you can make to evil kickjumps out of some pits. you forgot to place the colliders yet.
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Whoops, I think I had colliders, but forgot to save. I'll update soon.
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no ;p
MEANIE....
Here is this better.......
(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4954/ctftwstretchit8mr.th.png) (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ctftwstretchit8mr.png)
It is VERY big and flat the bases are nice to i think but it could have ben bigger.....
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yay! I finished my submission. I started it a few days back, but I see that during that time many people created maps very similar to mine. :(
whatever, maybe yall will like this better. (or maybe yall will hate it... I dunno lol)
ctf_tw_Last Stand is the name, army crawling is the game. refer to this (http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1447.0) topic for all the details.
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My main objection about regular ctf is that you know what's going to happen if the team respawns... yes, they start to mad spray the flag carrier. Having a 2-way attack ( raid+return ) on a one way map could kill gameplay, imo.
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basically you already lost if someone capped on a tw map because the spawns are far away from the flag and the flagger will get support fast. so its not the objective to turn the flag back in but never let someone even capture it.
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I've heard of alll that race maps, climb etc... But what the hell is a trench war ?
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I've heard of alll that race maps, climb etc... But what the hell is a trench war ?
Read the first page.
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I've heard of alll that race maps, climb etc... But what the hell is a trench war ?
Ever participated in a World War before? :P
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Ever participated in a World War before? :P
WWI would be most like what we're gettin at, I think
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THIS is that point in Big Lebowski, when John Goodman looks over and says "Donny! You are out of your f******* element here!"
On the topic:
I've got some free time tomorrow and i'm diggin on this idea - i'ma see what i can do to make one of these
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"I'am the Wallrus"
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Here's my map Ava. It's not completelly finished. There are some things I might change, like the mid, it could be changed to completely flat, or with a little tunnel/basement under the bunker.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/OresUkos/Trench.png)
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no, it looks fine :D
maps that can be counted in so far:
ctf_complex9 (boxo)
ctf_tw_moats (mine)
ctf_tw_dutches (flying dutchman, no name yet)
ctf_tw_laststand (wildbill)
ctf_tw_chemical (wraithlike)
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I've heard of alll that race maps, climb etc... But what the hell is a trench war ?
Read the first page.
Thank you, and happy 18th b-day avarax, I made the thread in the Ds forums.
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Here's my map Ava. It's not completelly finished. There are some things I might change, like the mid, it could be changed to completely flat, or with a little tunnel/basement under the bunker.
and where can we download this map you have shown us, eh?
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Well, I said it's not completelly finished yet, I'll probebly upload it somewhere later this day when I get everything smooth and polished.
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yo
so i made one of these maps - my first finished map. i think it came out alright but you gotta be the judge av.
i'm pretty sure i used mostly default scenery, but it all gets saved into the same folder & shit so if i accidently used somebody elses i'm not meanin to steal credit or anything
Oo - it's not waypointed
tell me if this hits near to what you were thinkin
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good one, but as every other, way too small. stretch it by 30-50%
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Excellent crackguy. I love it.
Avarax, the one I'm working on has a large windmill in the center. It's not really for players to snipe from, it's just to prevent spray (plus it helps the WWI theme). Is that okay?
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sure, buildings are cool, you can even make it a snipe spot :)
just dont fill the map with buildings and leave lots of free space
mine is ready now, ill post it today and then ill try to collect all goood tw maps in a mappack. i would appreciate if everyone gave me his OK to modify spawns, jet and colliders a bit.
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sorry for double post:
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1521.0
my tw map. ill try to get the server up today with some good maps, ill let you know if its ready. i will for first trys use my RS server and if it's good ill go for a "real" one.
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k, triple post ftw ^^
(edit sux because people dont see that there's something new)
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1523.0
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Damn I missed this thread before...
Anyways, I love the idea. I found this type of gameplay awesome ever since I played Soap's ctf_Shellshocked.
I look foreward to playing on the server :)
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Ok, my map is done and posted. You can find it in the Ctf/Inf section. I'm to lazy to post the link here cause of my damn slow pc. ::)
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I made mine bigger.
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1495.msg17626#msg17626
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^Awsome Wraith.
(http://star.walagata.com/w/rabidhamster/storage/imgs/WINDMILLOFDEATH.JPG)
I don't have much yet, just a little bit of terrain. Windmill needs dirtying up as well.
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That windmill FTW!
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yo
redid swampland so it's got more room for strategy & much bigger
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1544.new#new
i'm feelin good bout where this one's goin
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Yeah, these kind of games/maps are nifty, but I don't think they should be a separate gamemode. The new maps are cool too, complex9 is getting boring.
I've a few trech-warry maps in the making, i'll see if anything comes out of them.
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If your making a server for this style of map is there any chance of this (http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3734/nmlpic7jg.png) being included? It may have the flags in the wrong spot, be a little on the small side and only have 4 "trenches" but it's still fun. Download it here (http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd8/209114/Soldat Maps/KamikazeDucks Maps 2.zip) if you want to use it in the server, it's in the map pack.
edit: I really like the look of these tw maps being made and it's nice to see that there has been a lot of interest in them. gj Avarax.
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I'm working on a new one: Ctf_tw_Plague Years
Preview of building that I like:
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Oh sounds and looks good :D
Hmm will i make maps or not?
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It should be R/S so when you die you die.
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Then it won't give that fight for land feeling. Without survival it's like an ongoing battle to capture the enemies territory. With survival it would become hide and seek in the end.
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I'll make 1 too, dont give a bang about if others like it thow
HARHAR
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the others dont give a **** about you as well ~.~
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i will make a map. but im not real experienced with map making. it will probably not get on your server, but it will be a great way for me to learn better map making techniques. and btw, thanks for buying a server for all us to play on.
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Ok yall i REALLY need some maps bad my TW server is up by EliteCTF Community. ALL i have is 6 MAP! 6!!!! Need alot more give me what you got!!!!
Name: !Elite Trenchwar!
IP and Port: 209.11.246.251:23080
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are we allowed to make like a smash between jungle warfare and trench warfare? I made another tw map closer to what I think yall wanted (as opposed to my previous piece of s**t lol). only problem: its jungle themed. would that still work for you, avarax? it aint quite done yet, but Ill put it up in a day or so and see if ya want it or not lol
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New map
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1818.0
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i know i made one map, perhaps ctf_hoth as a trench map, try that out if u want.
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For you, Avarax, I will come out of retirement to make an epic trench map.
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yey ;P
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Wow, just joined these forums after seeing these old posts... I find this TW stuff very cool. I've been making maps for this and playing a mode just like this for like two years.
Cool stuff.. Nice job getting it out there Avarax.
( I'm gunna start up my server again, so inspired lol ).
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Thread necromancer ! M1LK, please don't post on threads over four months old. It's almost as annoying as listening to Crazy Frog beamed in straight to your brain.
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I don't think they need a new prefix, you could go with ctf_, and after a bunch of maps come together, you could do a mappack.
It would also be awesome with reversed flag positions too. WW2 style!
Heh, I did a reverse TW map :) http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=7766.0
And another, not reverse but I still like it :> http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=8947.0
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lock plz -.-
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I'm making a map, this game mode seems very interesting.
ctf_tw_stalemate.
It's about halfway done, It's gonna have reversed flags, a small hill in the central position, maybe three bunkers, and some barbed wire. And three lines of trenches, complete with firesteps. Maybe some gas clouds and craters, too.
And, if someone wants it, artillery. Not stat guns, artillery.
I might make a mod with WWI weapons, too, and use those TW maps in it.
Why the "lock plz -.-"?
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because this thread is more than half a year old and TW maps are quite popular already.