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Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: mxyzptlk on May 11, 2007, 06:47:18 am
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I was just thinking about useful slash-commands, and I came up with an idea-
Play dead.
It would be useful in R/S, DB, and normal modes.
of course, in non-survival modes, the body disappears, so you couldn't stay there long, or people would get suspicious.
This is by no means a "useless" command. It would be very tactical-like. For example, if someone has berserker, you would be able to act dead while he passes.
A possibility is that you would "overreact" (the ragdolls would fling wildly, stuff like that.)
Opinions?
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i don't undestand it a lot but...
thats similar to /death and /blodydeath ?
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No. It would never be implemented, its not a useful tactic, it's a cheap and cowardly tactic.
f11
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Nice idea, but it just sounds way too cowardly for it to be acceptable as you'd have to shoot corpses to see if they are alive like some zombie film.
Maybe it could be a server option because of the fun 'haha, he doesn't know' factor of being the corpse, and the zombie film atmosphere of having to check bodies. But normally I'd be too preoccupied with watching out for incoming enemies to be keeping a watch on dead bodies as well.
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I utilize all the scenery and bloody corpses I can in maps like TW maps to gain an advantage on the opposing team by either A: waiting for all to pass, then running for flag or B: waiting for all to pass, then flanking the hell out of them.
"Playing dead" would ruin the fun of knowing you've really tricked your opponents, because it really IS hard to tell some bodies apart from corpses unless you just stare at them.
Basically: No. You can already do this just by utilizing your environment, and that makes it much more fun then a cheap command that does it for you. Be aware of your surroundings, and start doing it yourself.
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...meh. Cowardice tactics. Just go down swinging if you have to.
F11
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This would be cool, like the Spy/assasin dude in Team Fortress :D In TW this would really be useful. Still yah Soldat is made for speed so ...
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Going prone in a pile of dead people usually works just as well for me in Trench Wars, so I don't really see the point. Plus, I'd hate to have to
shoot corpses to see if they are alive like some zombie film.
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Question: How to get back alive?
/stopplayingdead ?
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Why not just lay down? If there's alot of chaos around the area I'm in I occasionally do that so people think I'm dead, not laying. This would be cool, but as an option, not a definite thing.
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This ain't Enemy Territory you fool! Besides, the body is mostly being thorn apart, so you wanna look like a pile of pixels? And another thing - the corpses dissapear. It's useless on clan wars. Better hide behind a rock...
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Read the first post instead of assuming.
As a way to tell that he really didn't die if the enemy can see you, the ragdolls would go crazy, over acting.
Also, they would twitch, slightly, so if you look close you could see that they are fakes.
Also, It's not as cowardly as some other cheap tricks that are already in the game. It would just mean that you need to watch yourself in larger areas.
You would be able get out of it by simply moving. You would pick yourself up.
This ain't Enemy Territory you fool! Besides, the body is mostly being thorn apart, so you wanna look like a pile of pixels? And another thing - the corpses dissapear. It's useless on clan wars. Better hide behind a rock...
Point 1: So? It could still be a good tactic.
Point 2: It wouldn't look like "a pile of pixels," it would look like a body in an awkward position on the ground.
Point 3: I took that into account. "of course, in non-survival modes, the body disappears, so you couldn't stay there long, or people would get suspicious." That would be used to the assaulters advantage.
Any other crit?
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This would be FUN.
I already do this in Dodgeball. I go prone in a corner just as we spawn, and wait for all else to die. Then the enemy has one left, and he's like "WTF? Why won't the game end?". So I jump up, surprise him while he's /pissing, and kill him.
It's not cowardly, it's an AMBUSH tactic. It'd be awesome for avoiding snipers, too. They think you got shot anyway.
And the "checking dead bodies" thing? If you could somehow tell that they're faking, then you don't need to. Maybe they should be doing breathing movements or something.
I support, but only if it's at least a bit obvious that someone's faking. You should be able to tell with a quick glance.
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Well, one part would be that they wouldn't be bloody.
Anyway, glad to have your support on this, MOE.
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Hell No. Little things like this can make the game overly complicated....Just hide in a bush
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dude, that would be nsty, but all you have to do is in some maps just hide in the bushes or next to a building, it's wiked fun just nadin somepne and listenni to em "wtf was that?"
ta ha ha
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Its called Feign death... not PlayDead or any other kindergarten word
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@up
I always wondered why in Unreal it was binded to "F"... but then stopped playing unreal, and stopped wondering too :]
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Meh, i don't like it. Just prone, and enemy often willn't notice you. Unless he is a psychopatic killer who destroys everything not named polygon, scenery, flag, collidor or item kit >_> Or isn't blind.
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haha, i would like this... load barret, play dead.. i mean "feign death" (emits macho non-kindergarten grunt).. what was that? you're pissing on my corpse and laughing? BOOM! time to switch places buddy! :P
as long as it took a while to settle into "dead" mode or get up out of it, this would be cool. :)
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I would like this, it could be like that it would show that you killed yourself(with a nade ;) ) or sth.
total support
edit: it could stop playing dead by pressing any button except chat button or any F button.
And if it would fling yourself with the command(or even better, A SIMPLE BUTTON!), you could fling yourself away to the enemy flag if EFC is too far away :P
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You might as well be hiding in some bushes for an ambush rather than playing dead.
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You already can play dead more or less. Just prone and look down, when bloody. I use this tactic constantly, and it works to my advantage.
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This sounds kind of dumb. You would have to be a coward to have to hide. Sorry, but I prefer using REAL stealth, not fake tricks. If this game had classes, and spy was one, then this would work good, but, guess what, it doesn't, and it never will.
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People are sure to find a way to abuse it....so nah.... but it WOULD be fun.. :D
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it would be good if there wasn't "you killed XXXXX" on the screen after you killed someone
they would know if they killed you or not
support but I dont think its gonna fly
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it would be good if there wasn't "you killed XXXXX" on the screen after you killed someone
they would know if they killed you or not
support but I dont think its gonna fly
When im playing, sometimes the kill console dosent apear when i gun em down.... :P
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I'm glad this is getting some constructive crit now.
Another idea for it: You would have to be on solid ground to use it
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How about we just don't put it in? :]
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*Shrug*
I don't care if it's added or not, I'm just trying to throw some ideas that might make it more accepted.
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When im playing, sometimes the kill console dosent apear when i gun em down.... :P
Man, I hate that bug soo much.
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Same, and the fact that sometimes the "Someone Captured the blue flag!" message doesn't always show up
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You can use that in Metal Gear Solid. And it's cool!
F12- Exellent in TW-R/S
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Nah this idea is a bit to lame for a few seconds battle game like sodat
maby in an rpg game :P
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since this won't be implemented.. this was a useless resurrection of a dead topic.
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F11 because I don't think the idea of "Feign death" as EnEsCe put it fits with the fast-paced gameplay of Soldat. Yes, in tw or other gameplay styles it may be necessary but on the whole it wouldn't be seen as a global improvement. In most cases such as dm_ or tm_ etc, it would be seen as a nuisance.
[offtopic]You can buy WoW and make a hunter if you truly want to have "Feign death" :D[/offtopic]
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this is not what soldat is suppose to be...anyway if u want to play dead u can by getting urself until 1%health and throw ur wpn, and prone on the ground facing the ground
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hey! you ripped that off of my "dismount" idea! copy cat! >:(
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I posted this MONTHS ago. Well before you posted yours.
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oh, really? oh. i didn't notice. i thought it was today. sorry. but then who revived the topic?!
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but then who revived the topic?!
This dimwit \/\/\/.
You can use that in Metal Gear Solid. And it's cool!
F12- Exellent in TW-R/S
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f12 all the way. this would add some stragety and ambushing to the game besides really long distance snipes or RSing the LAW (rs=random shotting)
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f12 all the way. this would add some stragety and ambushing to the game besides really long distance snipes or RSing the LAW (rs=random shotting)
STOP FECKING REVIVING OLD TOPICS!