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Title: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 05, 2007, 06:00:11 pm
Self-explanatory. I was thinking this because while looking for a server, it gets pretty boring because I want to talk to players not in servers, but it is impossible. It would be great in 1.5.0 there would be such thing.

EX:

Lobby Server
--
Pick a location to chat (USA, Europe, Australia, etc.)
--
Talk with players in that location! (It is like the Lobby Chat in StarCraft series if you played it)


Advantages:
It will be easier to use that mIRC because you can talk to a person in the same window (Soldat Game) and when they accept, you can start the match really easily.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Mastadi on July 05, 2007, 06:02:09 pm
Nah... use IRC instead.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Spec. Ops on July 05, 2007, 06:31:40 pm
lol Soldat people would spam that box up so much.... this isnt gunz and the people are way diffrent.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 05, 2007, 07:09:29 pm
With spam control, obviously. Too many posts in a minute (like over 10 in a minute) would equal in a IP ban, like flooding in a server.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: echo_trail on July 05, 2007, 07:21:41 pm
Hmm.. are we talking live chat here, or a forum similar post and wait thing?

Well, I think the idea holds some potential, but I do not agree with how you intend to carrie it out. I've got to say i too think it'll get spammed up, even with the precautions you're speaking of. I definitely think it would be awesome if people could somehow communicate within soldat without actually joining a server, and I also think it would be very good for the newcomers, those who aren't yet straight with mIRC and such.
I support it to some extend..

;),
ec-ec-ech-echo
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 05, 2007, 07:23:50 pm
I really don't know, I'm leaning on live chat. I really don't know! That's a thinker.

EDIT: Whatever is most relieble, easiest to moderate.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SpiltCoffee on July 05, 2007, 07:28:15 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: echo_trail on July 05, 2007, 07:29:44 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?

Nah, not if I was to decide. The whole point is to connect those that are actually about to play soldat, right? I mean, half the peops in the IRC channels don't even play anymore at all!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: noerrorsfound on July 05, 2007, 07:32:34 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?
I like this idea.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 05, 2007, 07:50:21 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?

Nah, not if I was to decide. The whole point is to connect those that are actually about to play soldat, right? I mean, half the peops in the IRC channels don't even play anymore at all!
Yeah, I agree. mIRC players are dead after all.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on July 05, 2007, 08:28:42 pm
maybe some day
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Biscuiteer on July 05, 2007, 09:00:47 pm
Actually, this could be a great idea!

Im a bit of a starcraft player, so i know what your talking about. Having a soldat 'battle.net' would be interesting because you can chat and look for your servers in the same general area.

I support, F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SpiltCoffee on July 05, 2007, 10:33:44 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?

Nah, not if I was to decide. The whole point is to connect those that are actually about to play soldat, right? I mean, half the peops in the IRC channels don't even play anymore at all!
Yeah, I agree. mIRC players are dead after all.
Alright, then, maybe it joins a separate channel designed just for the use of the Soldat Lobby?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Se!kA on July 06, 2007, 03:42:29 am
I'm sure it wouldn't have as much options as IRC clients have, so I'm pressing F11.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SpiltCoffee on July 06, 2007, 03:57:26 am
Would it need to?

I'm just suggesting IRC so that no one needs to write a whole server script or something for the chat, but just to implement something simple into Soldat.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Taz on July 06, 2007, 07:40:55 am
I'm sure it wouldn't have as much options as IRC clients have, so I'm pressing F11.

It's just to chat before you start a match. A textbox and a send button are the ONLY options needed. Why would it need 11 million options when you're just playing a game? It wouldn't make any sense at all. F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: NinjaGimp369 on July 06, 2007, 07:44:26 am
Nah no support.

IRC is the way...
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SpiltCoffee on July 06, 2007, 08:24:10 am
Nah no support.

IRC is the way...
Which is why I was talking about using IRC as the server side of things. It wouldn't be hard at all to make Soldat connect to an IRC channel, now, would it?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 06, 2007, 09:54:38 am
I'm sure it wouldn't have as much options as IRC clients have, so I'm pressing F11.

It's just to chat before you start a match. A textbox and a send button are the ONLY options needed. Why would it need 11 million options when you're just playing a game? It wouldn't make any sense at all. F12
Yeah, anyways why make it complicated. Think about the newbies here man! Would they seriously need to know how to use mIRC?! Why go around using it? It is simpler and easier using Lobby Chat. It can have a little bit more options, but not too much.

Date Posted: July 06, 2007, 09:31:55 AM
Added Poll. Please vote!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: NinjaGimp369 on July 06, 2007, 10:18:40 am
Nah no support.

IRC is the way...
Which is why I was talking about using IRC as the server side of things. It wouldn't be hard at all to make Soldat connect to an IRC channel, now, would it?

Hmm, you have a point there.

Poll taken.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Sotija on July 06, 2007, 10:32:03 am
I use Irc and im happy with it.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: urraka on July 06, 2007, 10:49:50 am
This is a great idea. It would really make the game feel more "alive" for the new players, and it would be easy to make Soldat connect to some IRC channel. F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 06, 2007, 02:19:43 pm
This is a great idea. It would really make the game feel more "alive" for the new players, and it would be easy to make Soldat connect to some IRC channel. F12
Any suggestions? I need more support so it can come into effect.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: zyxstand on July 06, 2007, 03:09:31 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?

I would say let soldat's lobby have an IRC interface (possibly with sub-channels for like clans maybe) - If it were any more complex than simple chatting - or if it would take up too much space of the servers-list then I would also say that the chat should have its own tab in soldat.
Start Game --- Join Game --- Chat --- Options --- Player --- Exit
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 06, 2007, 05:55:47 pm
Well, you could make it connect to the Soldat IRC channel, couldn't you?

I would say let soldat's lobby have an IRC interface (possibly with sub-channels for like clans maybe) - If it were any more complex than simple chatting - or if it would take up too much space of the servers-list then I would also say that the chat should have its own tab in soldat.
Start Game --- Join Game --- Chat --- Options --- Player --- Exit
Yeah, good idea. I support the IRC interface, but not make it so like IRC.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: The Philanthropist on July 06, 2007, 10:34:31 pm
Searching for a server with you buddy, requesting clan scrimmages, and general banter make this idea very worthwhile. It doesn't have to be anything crazy, and maybe depending on the filters you have on you could talk to a specific group of people. Really convenient.

Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 07, 2007, 10:47:11 am
Yes, I like this idea. Having xfire and IRC while playing soldat lags me...
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 07, 2007, 02:44:07 pm
Searching for a server with you buddy, requesting clan scrimmages, and general banter make this idea very worthwhile. It doesn't have to be anything crazy, and maybe depending on the filters you have on you could talk to a specific group of people. Really convenient.


You get the point, Cappy yeah I agree with you. Soldat isn't meant to be played with like 4 different programs running (Internet, Xfire, mIRC, and something else).
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Justin1223 on July 07, 2007, 04:05:12 pm
great idea!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 07, 2007, 06:07:18 pm
And also, if you play fullscreen you're not able to see some of the applications you have opened.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Chariot on July 07, 2007, 07:52:46 pm
Yeah, maybe each server could have an option to include a chat room for people waiting to get in or who just want to talk. Phil's idea is good.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on July 07, 2007, 08:12:53 pm
Sounds like I great idea, I'd love to see this implemented. F13!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SpiltCoffee on July 07, 2007, 08:49:46 pm
You want to printscreen the vote?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SDFilm on July 07, 2007, 10:56:24 pm
Nah... use IRC instead.

IRC is the reason I don't do gathers.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 08, 2007, 12:01:10 pm
Nah... use IRC instead.

IRC is the reason I don't do gathers.
Yeah, I find all the people in #soldat.gather all "dead" or something, because only 5-10 people are actually live.

Date Posted: July 08, 2007, 11:59:41 AM
I forgot to add, you can add friends and talk individually with them.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 08, 2007, 02:22:46 pm
IRC is mainly used for gathers....not to chat with your friends and stuff.

So yeah, whats the point of going to a gather when you're looking to talk when most of them are either 1. Playing in a gather, or 2. Just being there to idle.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 08, 2007, 05:50:53 pm
IRC is mainly used for gathers....not to chat with your friends and stuff.

So yeah, whats the point of going to a gather when you're looking to talk when most of them are either 1. Playing in a gather, or 2. Just being there to idle.
Cappy you can run as my Vice-President, once I run for President one day. :D
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: pinOi32 on July 08, 2007, 06:09:18 pm
yes this is a good idea because lobby chat is always part of any good online game  [retard]
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: FlyingForehead on July 08, 2007, 06:25:29 pm
In some ways i Agree, but in others i dont. I mean it would be great to just talk to other people in the country without haveing to jump in a server. But, theres always the problem of spamming and Flooding and the like.

F12, Nice Idea But still some Kinks that need to be thought out.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 08, 2007, 06:53:35 pm
In some ways i Agree, but in others i dont. I mean it would be great to just talk to other people in the country without haveing to jump in a server. But, theres always the problem of spamming and Flooding and the like.

F12, Nice Idea But still some Kinks that need to be thought out.
Yeah, I think the spamming thing will be resolved once this is implemented into the game. I also posted about this already.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 08, 2007, 07:17:24 pm
Or it should be like when you're ingame and you start flooding with taunts and get kicked. Maybe they should do that for the lobby chat. Start flooding and get banned.

And yay! Vice president :D
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 08, 2007, 07:20:57 pm
Yeah, that is basically what I was saying, but I guess you guys are trying to help.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Clawbug on July 08, 2007, 08:10:32 pm
i'd HATE this.

Like now, you go to a server, you see a potentially good player, you ask him if he is interested in clans "I use AIM and xfire only, lets make a clan!".

Soon they will be like "lol irc no we use Soldat ffs noob -.-".

:|
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 09, 2007, 09:50:10 am
That will be great times.

Date Posted: July 08, 2007, 08:23:15 PM
Clawbug, I forgot to ask, do you support this idea?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 09, 2007, 09:58:19 am
Well if he said he hates it, why would he F12'd?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: pinOi32 on July 09, 2007, 01:48:39 pm
man tell the creator to put this into the game!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 10, 2007, 02:05:33 pm
Yeah, kind of trying to do that WITH enough support. (enough people f12'ing)

@Cappy: IDK

Date Posted: July 09, 2007, 06:10:59 PM
I came up with a new plan,

Lobby-Location-Chat (OLD)

New: Lobby-Location-Chat Rooms (SoldatForums, Gathers)- Chat.

Different tabs for each room, like tabbing in Mozilla Firefox.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: zyxstand on July 10, 2007, 02:15:23 pm
Let's take this one step further:
Soldat's IRC interface would so user friendly that for noobs it would just be a simple type to chat and double-click-something-in-this-list to join the server with a nice and userfriendly list of people in the lobby as well as channels.  Then, it would also contain much of the needed functionality of actual IRC for those who need it, including all them / commands as well as logging in and authing urself (perhaps).
And it would use the Player Name (under Player tab) as your name in the lobby!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 10, 2007, 02:20:23 pm
Let's take this one step further:
Soldat's IRC interface would so user friendly that for noobs it would just be a simple type to chat and double-click-something-in-this-list to join the server with a nice and userfriendly list of people in the lobby as well as channels. Then, it would also contain much of the needed functionality of actual IRC for those who need it, including all them / commands as well as logging in and authing urself (perhaps).
And it would use the Player Name (under Player tab) as your name in the lobby!
Very good zyx, that's a good idea because it would be "curved" for the people who want the lobby chat and the people that wants IRC! This might bring peace between the people who want the lobby chat and IRC, in that way more support for Lobby Chat! Hopefully, Michal would actually look into this and put it in his "stuff to improve Soldat" to-do list.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: .Long-Range on July 10, 2007, 05:44:01 pm
If we had an in-game Soldat lobby chat, it'd allow players to arrange matches and clan wars much, much more easily. There could be separate channels which clans would create, much like IRC, except in Soldat-form. I definitely would love to see this implemented. Kinda reminds me of the Starcraft lobby chat.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 10, 2007, 05:49:51 pm
If we had an in-game Soldat lobby chat, it'd allow players to arrange matches and clan wars much, much more easily. There could be separate channels which clans would create, much like IRC, except in Soldat-form. I definitely would love to see this implemented. Kinda reminds me of the Starcraft lobby chat.
LOL, yeah I mentioned this in my first post here (thread starter).
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: .Long-Range on July 10, 2007, 06:13:49 pm
Whoah, I breezed over your post specifically looking for that and I completely missed it :0
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 10, 2007, 09:26:40 pm
I've never played Starcraft, but this reminds me of StickArena and how it has a chat lobby built in.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: haha on July 12, 2007, 04:42:25 am
damn i never played both star craft and stick arena, cuz both lags like...hell, thought lobby should be good, though in one of the posts before me one of u mentioned if talking too much getting you kicked, i mean the lobby IS the main page, where would u get kicked to?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 12, 2007, 02:12:30 pm
You would be unable to talk...
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: dumdum31 on July 12, 2007, 07:09:12 pm
F12, definetely a good idea.

However, I think there are bigger issues at hand in soldat, so this is gonna have to take second place to bugfixing. Hopefully one day this'll be implemented.

For the kicking wouldn't it be best to have an admin for the main lobby chat page?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 12, 2007, 08:48:50 pm
Yes, but wouldn't he have to look over all the server lobbies online?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Biscuiteer on July 13, 2007, 01:15:15 pm
There should probably be only one Main Lobby so admins wouldn't need to oversee a pointless amount of servers, only the 'Official Soldat Lobby'.

The chat system should be able to go to any channel on quakenet but the Main Lobby would be the only 'guaranteed' channel - if you catch my drift.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Cappy on July 13, 2007, 01:26:46 pm
Wouldn't it be packed though? I like the idea of each server having a chat or something like that. Besides, what would be the main language if theres only 1 server? Maybe there should be a report system where people can report others if they spam/flood or whatever.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Biscuiteer on July 13, 2007, 01:49:41 pm
Well, maybe there should be multiple servers - like the Starcraft lobby. If Soldat Main is full, then you are automatically moved to Soldat Main 1, and etc. Each of the servers would have a bot that punishes if the user spams or uses foul language.

And as for the language issue, then it would read off of your preferred language choice in Soldat Setup and automatically send you to the right channel (like Soldat Main for english or Español Canal de Soldat for spanish users)
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: urraka on July 13, 2007, 03:47:07 pm
It kinda gets complicated if there is a lot of people in lobby. I play Worms4 and it has a lobby chat. Every player goes to the lobby chat when entering online mode, but it doesn't get really full of people so it doesn't bring a lot of problems. Ocasionally you see some spammers, but you can use a command /ignore. There is no moderator in the chat. Maybe there isn't enough worms players to take this by example, or maybe it is the fact that players are taken out of the chat once they created or joined a game. Also, everyone uses any language, which from my point of view is great. I've learned some russian playing worms :D
So, it might work without problems, but i don't know how many players will be there chating in the lobby... i think most people would be playing.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: The Red Guy on July 14, 2007, 02:07:21 am
Yeah Worms 4 doesn't have alot of players so there aren't any problems, but games like Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 have a lobby chat, and it gets filled up with alot of players but there aren't anybody causing trouble there either. Maybe except for people desperately asking for servers.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 14, 2007, 11:31:29 am
Well, maybe there should be multiple servers - like the Starcraft lobby. If Soldat Main is full, then you are automatically moved to Soldat Main 1, and etc. Each of the servers would have a bot that punishes if the user spams or uses foul language.

And as for the language issue, then it would read off of your preferred language choice in Soldat Setup and automatically send you to the right channel (like Soldat Main for english or Español Canal de Soldat for spanish users)

Yeah, if this is implemented then MM can decide about it. There obviously will be different servers for people who speak a different language. The bot will basically "flood kick" the spammer. That person then cannot speak.

It kinda gets complicated if there is a lot of people in lobby. I play Worms4 and it has a lobby chat. Every player goes to the lobby chat when entering online mode, but it doesn't get really full of people so it doesn't bring a lot of problems. Ocasionally you see some spammers, but you can use a command /ignore. There is no moderator in the chat. Maybe there isn't enough worms players to take this by example, or maybe it is the fact that players are taken out of the chat once they created or joined a game. Also, everyone uses any language, which from my point of view is great. I've learned some russian playing worms :D
So, it might work without problems, but i don't know how many players will be there chating in the lobby... i think most people would be playing.

There will be different servers. Let's say that one server can be filled up by 100 people, if that server gets full then you are automatically redirected to another server similar to it. Also, there is a big chance the Lobby Chat won't be filled with players (I'm not saying that this will never happen), but as you said, most people WOULD be playing.

Yeah Worms 4 doesn't have alot of players so there aren't any problems, but games like Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 have a lobby chat, and it gets filled up with alot of players but there aren't anybody causing trouble there either. Maybe except for people desperately asking for servers.

No problem there, maybe I will look into how the THPS lobby chat works...

Date Posted: July 14, 2007, 11:12:46 AM
I wonder if MM looked into this. It would be great if he posted his comment about this.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Soldatik on July 14, 2007, 12:49:14 pm
This would be a great idea but i think not its to spawny...maby an Ingame mIRC is a good idea
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 17, 2007, 05:51:26 pm
This would be a great idea but i think not its to spawny...maby an Ingame mIRC is a good idea
We already talked about this...it's a no...

Date Posted: July 14, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
Well, maybe there should be multiple servers - like the Starcraft lobby. If Soldat Main is full, then you are automatically moved to Soldat Main 1, and etc. Each of the servers would have a bot that punishes if the user spams or uses foul language.

And as for the language issue, then it would read off of your preferred language choice in Soldat Setup and automatically send you to the right channel (like Soldat Main for english or Español Canal de Soldat for spanish users)

I think I posted something about this, but yeah that is basically what I am trying to say...If I can find the post that I mentioned it on.
Wouldn't it be packed though? I like the idea of each server having a chat or something like that. Besides, what would be the main language if theres only 1 server? Maybe there should be a report system where people can report others if they spam/flood or whatever.

It would be adminless, with a bot managing all the activity.

There should probably be only one Main Lobby so admins wouldn't need to oversee a pointless amount of servers, only the 'Official Soldat Lobby'.

The chat system should be able to go to any channel on quakenet but the Main Lobby would be the only 'guaranteed' channel - if you catch my drift.

I posted something about this. So it would be easier, the tab system would come into play. If you wanted to go to a different server, you open a new tab and go to it (like Mozilla Firefox). In this way it would be a whole lot easier.

Date Posted: July 14, 2007, 07:59:15 PM
Bump, keep the discussion going.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: adadqgg on July 18, 2007, 10:51:45 am
F12, a lobby chat connected to a quakenet channel is gonna teach the newbies how to use IRC, but its already like to IRC so they wont have to learn it.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 22, 2007, 07:54:19 pm
F12, a lobby chat connected to a quakenet channel is gonna teach the newbies how to use IRC, but its already like to IRC so they wont have to learn it.
Hopefully MM and some other Admins check this out.

Date Posted: July 19, 2007, 06:32:40 PM
Bump, please keep the discussion going.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Flacid Assassin on July 22, 2007, 08:03:14 pm
F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 23, 2007, 01:36:43 pm
Man that's it? Need an explanation.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: zyxstand on July 23, 2007, 02:06:13 pm
Maybe have multiple channels (Lobby Channel 1-6) and a player joins a random channel on startup - and then we can have secret channels 7-10 for non-noobs that not many others should know about.  In any case, when you install soldat it should assign you a random channel and you can later change the channel.
And it should allow people to create subchannels as well that are optionally passworded - ideal for clans!!!
If MM pulls this through it would ROX!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: urraka on July 23, 2007, 02:42:20 pm
I think it should be done this way:

Layout would be in tabs.
One main channel (only one).
Ability to send private messages EASILY (not with a command and writing the nick, and maybe opening another tab).
Ability to create and join channels (passworded or not).
Ability to ignore players.
The nickname would be your player nick plus some number if it's already logged.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Xaero on July 23, 2007, 03:50:08 pm
I don't like the idea..
IRC is good enough and with the soldat script, you can use soldat://ip:port/pass clickable, this is easy by now.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: SpiltCoffee on July 23, 2007, 04:33:29 pm
This is the thing, though. We've been saying that Soldat could connect to an IRC channel, to save on having to make a server for the job... unless FLAB wants to, of course.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: The Philanthropist on July 23, 2007, 10:20:51 pm
Quote
Layout would be in tabs.
One main channel (only one).
Ability to send private messages EASILY (not with a command and writing the nick, and maybe opening another tab).
Ability to create and join channels (passworded or not).
Ability to ignore players.
The nickname would be your player nick plus some number if it's already logged.

I still like mah idea better.

Quote
and maybe depending on the filters you have on you could talk to a specific group of people.

Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Justin1223 on July 24, 2007, 06:53:18 pm
good idea.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: zyxstand on July 25, 2007, 12:15:40 pm
Here's how I envision the chat (in part)-
You would just click the underlined blue text to join that server,
You can personalize it and having friends and favorite channels...
There would also be symbols next to the channels (such as a lock if it's locked, a C to indicate it's a clan channel, etc.)
Your font is the color of your shirt (just like your in-game name color)
You double click on someone to start a personal chat (at the top) and you get put into a random channel (Channel 3 in this case).  You can of course join another channel.  Channels and Private Chats are browsable tab-style (as shown).
Should I add something?

(sry for the grey contained pixels in the text - i whipped this up on paint at work and i didn't wanna go through changing everything...
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: urraka on July 25, 2007, 12:51:21 pm
Spliting the view in 2 for private chat si a bad idea. Private chat should be just another tab, like another channel. Also, I don't like that thing abou colors, honestly I hate chats with lots of annoying crappy colors. However it would be nice if you could highlight some player if you want. Like you can do in GameSpy, if you know it.
Channel list isn't necesary i think. A favourite list of channel would be nice, but better a small dropdown-box on the top (just like soldat servers favourites).
The friends list isn't necessary either. Your friends could be highlighted.
It's important to save space for the chat window, you know.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: zyxstand on July 25, 2007, 01:10:10 pm
you prolly don like the chat separate form private chat b.c your IRC does it like that...  I think it's better like that...
the friends list is like a buddy list - having to browse the main players list to find a highlighted name is harder.
Ehh i just changed my mind...  It's better to have private chat and main channel-chat combined to save space.
But there needs to be a channels list so that noobs can easily find the channels - no complicated "/join #SomeClanChannel" because that isn't obvious enough!
And if privatechat is combined with channel-chat then let there be two rows of tablature - this separates it better, giving bigger room for chat window, and keeps the chat well-organized....
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Biscuiteer on July 25, 2007, 02:05:41 pm
I dont agree with your way of combining private and normal chat, zyx.

How about that private chat is differently colored than normal chat - like battle.net?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Bunney on July 25, 2007, 02:48:05 pm
F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: adadqgg on July 25, 2007, 03:13:20 pm
Here's how I envision the chat (in part)-
You would just click the underlined blue text to join that server,
You can personalize it and having friends and favorite channels...
There would also be symbols next to the channels (such as a lock if it's locked, a C to indicate it's a clan channel, etc.)
Your font is the color of your shirt (just like your in-game name color)
You double click on someone to start a personal chat (at the top) and you get put into a random channel (Channel 3 in this case).  You can of course join another channel.  Channels and Private Chats are browsable tab-style (as shown).
Should I add something?

(sry for the grey contained pixels in the text - i whipped this up on paint at work and i didn't wanna go through changing everything...
you are gonna need a scroll-bar for the messages(since there could be alot of ppl talk at the same time, this is a must have)
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: zyxstand on July 25, 2007, 03:26:03 pm
lol okay listen guys:
I just gave a quick sketch of what I see in the chat.
Of course there's gonna be a scroll bar for anything taht needs it (ie chat, channels list, players list, etc.) so don't go flaming me on about how i missed this and that...
But I like the color idea - four colors for four kinds of chat:
1) Official lobby chat (channels 1-6 or whatever)
2) Private Chat (involving you and another person)
3) Clan-channel chat
4) Other channel chat

oh, also, the ability to hide a channel from public view (unless you added it to your favorites) to have a pseudo-private chat.  That way you can advertise it in the forums without having all the newbs come in and blabber around...
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: adadqgg on July 25, 2007, 03:32:35 pm
I still think soldat should have a in-game IRC, and shortcuts to channels.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: urraka on July 25, 2007, 04:11:10 pm
I don't think making clan-cahnnels is possible, it should be just like any other channel... unless IRC isn't used for this. Or you would need some database with all clan channels, which I think isn't going to happen. That's why I think channel list is useless... what channels would be there on the list? You aren't going to list all soldat.* channels cuz there are loootz.
So, my opinion is still to have just one main channel, and if you create a channel and want your friends to enter it you can tell them with private message (or not).

I still think soldat should have a in-game IRC, and shortcuts to channels.

This would be all an in-game IRC. All of this can be implemented using IRC.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 26, 2007, 02:09:00 pm
lol okay listen guys:
I just gave a quick sketch of what I see in the chat.
Of course there's gonna be a scroll bar for anything taht needs it (ie chat, channels list, players list, etc.) so don't go flaming me on about how i missed this and that...
But I like the color idea - four colors for four kinds of chat:
1) Official lobby chat (channels 1-6 or whatever)
2) Private Chat (involving you and another person)
3) Clan-channel chat
4) Other channel chat

oh, also, the ability to hide a channel from public view (unless you added it to your favorites) to have a pseudo-private chat. That way you can advertise it in the forums without having all the newbs come in and blabber around...


Basically what I mean. God guys please don't make it more complicated than it is. Many people, already said they don't want another mIRC. They just want a nice good plain Lobby Chat.

Date Posted: July 26, 2007, 02:07:38 PM
Here's how I envision the chat (in part)-
You would just click the underlined blue text to join that server,
You can personalize it and having friends and favorite channels...
There would also be symbols next to the channels (such as a lock if it's locked, a C to indicate it's a clan channel, etc.)
Your font is the color of your shirt (just like your in-game name color)
You double click on someone to start a personal chat (at the top) and you get put into a random channel (Channel 3 in this case).  You can of course join another channel.  Channels and Private Chats are browsable tab-style (as shown).
Should I add something?

(sry for the grey contained pixels in the text - i whipped this up on paint at work and i didn't wanna go through changing everything...
EXACTLY.

Date Posted: July 26, 2007, 02:08:25 PM
This would be a great idea but i think not its to spawny...maby an Ingame mIRC is a good idea
We already talked about this...it's a no...

Date Posted: July 14, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
Well, maybe there should be multiple servers - like the Starcraft lobby. If Soldat Main is full, then you are automatically moved to Soldat Main 1, and etc. Each of the servers would have a bot that punishes if the user spams or uses foul language.

And as for the language issue, then it would read off of your preferred language choice in Soldat Setup and automatically send you to the right channel (like Soldat Main for english or Español Canal de Soldat for spanish users)

I think I posted something about this, but yeah that is basically what I am trying to say...If I can find the post that I mentioned it on.
Wouldn't it be packed though? I like the idea of each server having a chat or something like that. Besides, what would be the main language if theres only 1 server? Maybe there should be a report system where people can report others if they spam/flood or whatever.

It would be adminless, with a bot managing all the activity.

There should probably be only one Main Lobby so admins wouldn't need to oversee a pointless amount of servers, only the 'Official Soldat Lobby'.

The chat system should be able to go to any channel on quakenet but the Main Lobby would be the only 'guaranteed' channel - if you catch my drift.

I posted something about this. So it would be easier, the tab system would come into play. If you wanted to go to a different server, you open a new tab and go to it (like Mozilla Firefox). In this way it would be a whole lot easier.

Date Posted: July 14, 2007, 07:59:15 PM
Bump, keep the discussion going.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on July 26, 2007, 07:52:07 pm
Just so you guys know, this thread does not need to be bumped for the idea to stay alive.  Myself, MM, and EnEsCe (the 3 people who would implement such a thing) are aware that it exists and how well-developed of an idea it is.  Please don't bump the thread unless you actually have something to say which also hasn't been said yet
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Xxypher on July 27, 2007, 12:49:33 am
I love the idea!
This will lead to plenty of 1v1 servers!
I say that this will lead to more matches, and no one will have to use mIRC and its difficult codes and stuff...
I also think this may be bad for spam, maybe making it so someone can onjly post once every five seconds will help cut back on any spam.

I also think voicechat in game would be nice.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Snipufin on July 28, 2007, 04:15:28 pm
I would say that you should have an own tab for the lobby chat, like right next to join game tab.

But F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Clawbug on July 29, 2007, 07:02:49 am
Well, I'd be glad to see this WITH simple account system. People would come over with other players nicks and just fool around, total chaos i'd say.

Also think about how it would be when there are +100 people chatting at the same time. :|
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Oxyd on July 29, 2007, 01:28:01 pm
Well, I'd be glad to see this WITH simple account system. People would come over with other players nicks and just fool around, total chaos i'd say.

Also think about how it would be when there are +100 people chatting at the same time. :|

Well on warcraft 3 i see similar things. And don't seem to be having any problems while there are sooooo much people chating on a chanel.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on August 30, 2007, 04:54:22 pm
@Clawbug: We already talked about that. Please read previous posts.

Date Posted: July 29, 2007, 09:20:13 PM
Well, I'd be glad to see this WITH simple account system. People would come over with other players nicks and just fool around, total chaos i'd say.

Also think about how it would be when there are +100 people chatting at the same time. :|

Well on warcraft 3 i see similar things. And don't seem to be having any problems while there are sooooo much people chating on a chanel.
Well, we could look at more games that has that feature and do a soldat beta with it at least.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Kai on September 15, 2007, 07:16:21 am
f12 Fully supported. Why?
Because with single instalation u would get tool to comunicate within soldat and not having sepparate installation (irc)
for a single game use.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Dr. Zombi3 on September 15, 2007, 12:47:27 pm
good idea, Soldat should have lobby chat.
F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Bunney on September 16, 2007, 09:05:25 am
I Agree. F12
It would make it realy more enjoyable and easier to get with a friend in a server.

btw, 500th post.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on October 16, 2007, 08:23:54 pm
I Agree. F12
It would make it realy more enjoyable and easier to get with a friend in a server.

btw, 500th post.
Thank you guys. Bunney you have any more ideas? I believe that this should be customizable.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: mxyzptlk on October 17, 2007, 05:17:28 am
There should possibly be a spam/flood prevention bot, or something.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: O.R.I.O.N. on October 17, 2007, 12:50:24 pm
Just like in-game.

I personally think this would be a brilliant idea, but it would be a bitch to code. Useful for organizing pick-up games and stuff, or finding someone you want to challenge. I support this idea.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on October 18, 2007, 07:36:07 pm
There should possibly be a spam/flood prevention bot, or something.
Yeah, I hope; if this is put into the Soldat program, I'm sure there will be one.

Just like in-game.

I personally think this would be a brilliant idea, but it would be a feck to code. Useful for organizing pick-up games and stuff, or finding someone you want to challenge. I support this idea.
I really don't know if MM is the only one that works on Soldat or someone helps him.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: LtKillroy on October 18, 2007, 08:04:35 pm
Well... a little unnecesarry, but cool. I wouldn't use it becuase I play INF, and there are like 3 inf servers going at any 1 time.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: viceroy on October 18, 2007, 09:27:44 pm
YES. epic and firm YES.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on October 19, 2007, 10:05:39 am
Well... a little unnecesarry, but cool. I wouldn't use it becuase I play INF, and there are like 3 inf servers going at any 1 time.
Can you clarify?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on November 01, 2007, 05:56:43 pm
lol Soldat people would spam that box up so much.... this isnt gunz and the people are way diffrent.
agreed...but why not have flood kicking and chat admins to kick spammers.. :) F12 good idea! Please MM support this :D
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: jbigz on November 03, 2007, 05:28:04 pm
I think this feature would be an alright add, although I would not personally use it.

I think a buddy list option would be much more useful, like a built-in xfire so I don't have to slow down my comp.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on November 04, 2007, 09:37:25 pm
Hopefully, MM can sneak this into 1.4.3
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: poopdogg on November 05, 2007, 09:49:30 am
Nah... use IRC instead.
but its really cool if you chat on the lobby...you dont need to open IRC..:)
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on November 05, 2007, 07:39:23 pm
Nah... use IRC instead.
but its really cool if you chat on the lobby...you dont need to open IRC..:)
My dad works with the internet and knows IRC very well. One major downside I learned from him is that while using IRC, keyloggers, trojans, etc. can download itself on your computer. I know an instance where this has happened.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Biscuiteer on November 07, 2007, 06:15:12 pm
Just don't click on anything or respond to anything funny on IRC then.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on November 07, 2007, 10:13:01 pm
Just don't click on anything or respond to anything funny on IRC then.
Question: How will we know what to click or not to click?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: excruciator on November 07, 2007, 10:50:43 pm
lol love it...but I might get very confusing.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Veritas on November 08, 2007, 03:37:21 am
Nah... use IRC instead.
but its really cool if you chat on the lobby...you dont need to open IRC..:)
My dad works with the internet and knows IRC very well. One major downside I learned from him is that while using IRC, keyloggers, trojans, etc. can download itself on your computer. I know an instance where this has happened.
Much like anything that accesses the internet has that potential
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on November 15, 2007, 05:11:13 pm
Nah... use IRC instead.
but its really cool if you chat on the lobby...you dont need to open IRC..:)
My dad works with the internet and knows IRC very well. One major downside I learned from him is that while using IRC, keyloggers, trojans, etc. can download itself on your computer. I know an instance where this has happened.
Much like anything that accesses the internet has that potential
Well yeah, anti-virus or something.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on December 02, 2007, 07:59:23 pm
I hope this will come true!!!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: BondJamesBond on December 03, 2007, 09:51:38 am
Everett12: Hey guys I'm new to Soldat, what's up?
UmbeKill[can]: lol nub!
stratergy: what's up noob!
YellowFrag: haha noob
Poopym79: gtfo nubbly nub!

Would be a good idea if Soldat didn't have such a notorious habit of attracting egotistical 12 year olds. =\
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: LeetFidle on December 03, 2007, 11:34:02 am
*Support* this would be cool to have. like when im trying to tell my friends what server to go on, when they dont have xfire.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on December 26, 2007, 03:42:05 pm
Hopefully, MM can sneak this into 1.4.3
yea, just wait for 1.4.3 to come out lol
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Clawbug on December 26, 2007, 03:45:08 pm
*Support* this would be cool to have. like when im trying to tell my friends what server to go on, when they dont have xfire.
Use IRC.

Seriously, as I have said about 10 times regarding this topic: Lobby chat is just so unnecessary! If people want to chat with other Soldat players, use IRC. Reallty, thats the best way. Also you get into the REAL Soldat. YES! Publics are for noobs!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Centurion on December 26, 2007, 04:08:14 pm
I say "No" too, I think this is bad idea because some people are already spamming servers and we don't need an other place where people could spam.
And I guess it might cause much, much slower lobby than we have it now.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Thomas on December 26, 2007, 04:25:18 pm
Nah... use IRC instead.
my opinion, additionally in 640x480 there's no space for chats

irc inside soldat? nah, see reason above
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on December 26, 2007, 10:02:27 pm
I say "No" too, I think this is bad idea because some people are already spamming servers and we don't need an other place where people could spam.
And I guess it might cause much, much slower lobby than we have it now.
like i said. flood kicking





Date Posted: December 26, 2007, 10:00:14 pm
lol Soldat people would spam that box up so much.... this isnt gunz and the people are way diffrent.
agreed...but why not have flood kicking and chat admins to kick spammers.. :) F12 good idea! Please MM support this :D
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: happytodd on December 27, 2007, 01:46:39 am
F12
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on December 27, 2007, 03:49:57 pm
Yay!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Biscuiteer on December 27, 2007, 06:08:05 pm
Maybe this option should be editable thru the soldat setup prog like so:

Server Display:
A) Display servers only (Old style)
B) Enable Lobby Chat
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: M.rSnow on March 15, 2008, 02:56:15 pm
It shoudnt be so hard to create a third party for that. F12 anyway.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: JupiterShadow on March 15, 2008, 04:26:27 pm
I'll say no, because then you would have 100+ people spamming links to warez sites and hacks.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Kagesha on March 15, 2008, 10:39:15 pm
If so make it for registered players because they are more experineced, more behaved and wont spam.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: STM1993 on March 16, 2008, 02:14:45 am
F12, good idea.

Though this is an old thread...
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on April 05, 2008, 01:11:34 pm
It's getting added! Hooray
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Psycho on April 05, 2008, 01:16:36 pm
Wow. Finally an idea from this forum section was actually implemented.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on April 05, 2008, 01:19:48 pm
Wow. Finally an idea from this forum section was actually implemented.

I'll say no, because then you would have 100+ people spamming links to warez sites and hacks.
Flood Kick maybe? Hehe
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: STM1993 on April 05, 2008, 01:25:36 pm
Cool, its gonna be added.

But does it apply to ALL Soldat players or registered only?
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Hershey on April 05, 2008, 01:26:19 pm
Read the topic in the "News" Section
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: tehsnipah on April 05, 2008, 08:27:18 pm
really nice idea, definitely f12!
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: amb2010 on April 05, 2008, 08:35:42 pm
It should have a flood kicker or something if you look in the picture shown in the news...it has a Soldat bot in it I think.
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: Shadow G-Unit on June 11, 2008, 11:27:03 am
It should have a flood kicker. I think that I should get some special privileges for my "baby".
Title: Re: Lobby Chat
Post by: ZomgProniss on June 12, 2008, 12:49:33 pm
Cool, its gonna be added.

But does it apply to ALL Soldat players or registered only?

im pritty sure its all