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Title: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Brock on July 09, 2006, 09:58:57 pm
Well, these forums are riddled with m79 and barret overuse topics.  I thought I'd turn thing around a bit...  What do you think is the least popular weapon?

I rarely see the Deagles use, and whn people do, they usually suck with them.  (I like the deagles though, I'm good with them)

But I don't see why the Deagles are so unpopular, they are powerful, especially at close range, they reload relarively fast, and they ricoshet so good it's almost a crime.  So why are they so unpopular?

PS: Were they any changes made to them from 1.2.1 -----> 1.3.1?  I think they were a little more popular back then?  I dunno, what's your opinion?
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Mistercharles on July 09, 2006, 10:08:45 pm
Minigun. Almost everyone hates it, even most newbs.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Snowden on July 09, 2006, 10:13:37 pm
Yep, minigun followed by minimi. Deagles are now unpopular because they were nerfed. Before, 2 hits usually guaranteed a kill, now 3 are required a lot of the time.
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Post by: Twistkill on July 09, 2006, 10:14:46 pm
I thought you were asking what weapons we use the least. XD

I see almost every weapon in servers, but whenever I see the minigun it's only used by the noobs. Most of the times I see m79 abusers everywhere, though. >:(
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Post by: Vltava on July 09, 2006, 10:20:30 pm
Actually, using the minigun is quite entertaining. I enjoy spraying forty rounds into one's noggin from five feet away.
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Post by: kalatix on July 09, 2006, 10:20:52 pm
Hmm... only occasionally do i see a Spas'er. And a lot of times, I'm the only one I ever see using a Ruger.

And Minimis are rare... but people are good whenever they do use the Minimi.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: GNU on July 09, 2006, 10:23:27 pm
Minigun, it's disabled in most Aus servers.
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Post by: jrgp on July 09, 2006, 10:24:16 pm
I never really see people use the chainsaw, mp5, and ak-74 anymore.

Btw the mp5 really is one of the best weapons in the game.

The image I posted is the weapon stats for my server Joe's CTF
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: T-Bone on July 09, 2006, 10:31:26 pm
I'd say the minigun and the minimi are the most unused guns. I rarely see any one with the minigun except a Major or two, and the people that have the minimi dont seem like they know what they're doing with it.
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Post by: kingkitty on July 09, 2006, 10:34:12 pm
Haven't seen alot of hand fights lately.
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Post by: SadistAtHeart on July 09, 2006, 11:01:50 pm
Socom, followed by barrett. (for me, anyway)
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Post by: Sotija on July 09, 2006, 11:05:24 pm
Id say Minigun.
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Post by: Gore on July 09, 2006, 11:08:15 pm
minigun because it sucks, shold be removed from the game and put something useful in that slot, a stick for example.
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Post by: Rambo_6 on July 09, 2006, 11:23:14 pm
I like the minigun, i can usually squeeze a few kills off with it before i die (usually).

I think it would become a little more popular if it didn't have such lousy bink.

And same goes for the minimi. A good gun with just a little too much bink.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: X-Rayz on July 09, 2006, 11:26:49 pm
Minigun, it's disabled in most Aus servers.

Thank god for that.

I SAID, THANK ME DAMN IT!
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: MWTBDLTR on July 09, 2006, 11:39:07 pm
it seems pretty obivous which gun is the least used.  As for the minimi being second, i do agree.  but i wil say that i have been seeing more and more people using it lately, it may be picking up steam.  I personialy dont get why people dont use the minimi more.  i mean it may be an issue of bink to a lot of people from the auto-firing, but i have adapted.  i got to a point where i am able to keep it very low and keep a really high rate of fire. 
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Plonkoon on July 10, 2006, 12:39:22 am
Yep, I rarely ever see the minigun or chainsaw on the battlefield.  Such a shame.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: R@NDOM on July 10, 2006, 01:02:29 am
I'm am the only the only that uses spas-12 and chainsaw?
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Post by: Dawn of the D^ on July 10, 2006, 01:27:14 am
i don't see many deagle players.......
if you ask me, the deagles are nice weapons so i can't understand why not using them....ok i don't use them too but i saw many pr0s playing with deagles =)
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: -Vis- on July 10, 2006, 01:45:25 am
I'm am the only the only that uses spas-12 and chainsaw?

I often switch to chainsaw in big servers when the knife just doesn't help too much... I actually won a game a few days ago on Lanubya using only saw and a few nades here and there, with about 20 people in the game... that was a lotta fun :D I got 2 caps.
Another time I got third place using ONLY saw, with no caps. I think chainsaw is really underestimated by a lot of people, as it can be very effective.
Generally, I'm sticking to spas/knife though :P

Anyway, I've seen a few decent deaglers recently.. the weapon is pretty good if you can handle the arc. I rarely get into spas fights with anyone, but they come along occasionally. And I agree that the Minimi is starting to pick up a bit... maybe it's just coincidence, but I've been in servers with 2-3 minimi users a number of times in the past few days.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: jettlarue on July 10, 2006, 01:55:56 am
personally i think rambo's flaming bow will always be least used weapon overall. in r/s there is a wider array of weapon users it seems, compared to the usual m79's and barrets.(not that i have anything against m79, or barret, i personally like both of them). but not all weapons are equal yet and never will be. otherwise the game would lose its fun. thats why some wepaons such as chainsaw are harder, compared to mp5 which is much easier to kill an enemy with. thats why i hate when people complain about weapons, since if a weapon is so easy to use for that person, if you are better than them you should be able to kill them with any weapon. that is what makes the game fun.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Meep. on July 10, 2006, 03:36:24 am
Yeah, the rambow seems to be the least used weapon for obvious reasons.  As for normal guns, I'd say minigun ???.
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Post by: Mister Angry on July 10, 2006, 10:20:09 am
minigun because it sucks, shold be removed from the game and put something useful in that slot, a stick for example.

No, YOU suck. Because you can't use it properly to get a kill. I've been using it, and trying the most effective ways to get kills. And lemmie tell you, It's difficult... Because this isnt some pickup-charge-kill weapon. I've won deathmatches with the Minigun and I didn't stand there spraying like a dumbass. Using the Socom with the Minigun is a serious life saver. This bloody weapon takes alot of patience to use.

Really, I use all (semi auto and automatic) weapons whenever i'm in the mood. So...yeah I'm one of the few guys who you see with like... a Spas/Chainsaw combo.

...And to answer your question, Brock I think all the semi-autos and autos are used the least equally... Except the Minigun because no one has the balls to use it.  Besides. why do you think weapons like the Spas and Desert Eagles are used so...little? Take a look at that chart on the first page, for example. *cough*
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Post by: viggoloniggolo on July 10, 2006, 10:25:46 am
spas in r/s, first place guaranteed, second most used weapon by me mp5, then ak74,fn_minimi, steyr aug, barrett, then ruger, then deagles, then m79
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Mancer on July 10, 2006, 10:58:57 am
minigun because it sucks, shold be removed from the game and put something useful in that slot, a stick for example.

Hahaha oh god I laughed so hard
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: jbigz on July 10, 2006, 12:17:00 pm
spas in r/s, first place guaranteed, second most used weapon by me mp5, then ak74,fn_minimi, steyr aug, barrett, then ruger, then deagles, then m79, then ruger.

you listed ruger twice...

and for me, I never see any real good spasers, as myself. I recently picked up a spas and said "i need to get good with this weapon. no reload time. just reload a shell at a time. this gun must be good in some way". and the spas is extremely effective. but whenever i get TOO good with it in a server, 100% of the time (not exaggerating either) i am called a hacker.... i guess people dont expect spasers to be good...

the least used combo i see? I NEVER SEE AK-74 AND LAW!!! or Barret and chain.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: T-Bone on July 10, 2006, 12:43:42 pm
I never see any real good spasers

Hello how are you (now you have :D)

Ontopic: There are definatly no spasers on Real if tahts what people are meaning
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Eagles_Arrows on July 10, 2006, 12:47:04 pm
I spas in small maps in R/S (ex. Ash).  Dunno if that counts though.

The least used weapon's got to be the Rambow for sure.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Brock on July 10, 2006, 03:30:53 pm
The whole bit with chainsaw...  I love the saw, in close range maps like arena2 and the dusty-lookin' one, I can get multi kills with a saw.

Yeah, the Minimi is pretty unpopular too.  Lotsa people don't use it cause if you fire for a long period of time, the shots get very innacurate.  But bullets do high damage...
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: T-Bone on July 10, 2006, 03:40:54 pm
Well definatly the rambow eagles, but we are talking about out of primaries. The rambow wouldnt be the least in Rambo servers obviously. Its just a gun you cant call the least used when it doesnt get the opportunity to be used.
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Post by: Noldi on July 10, 2006, 03:57:49 pm
Well if you play R/s you don't see a lot of saws or minguns..
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Post by: Iq Unlimited on July 10, 2006, 04:01:25 pm
I'd go with the Minigun, its a really noobish and dumb to use gun, noone likes it that i know.
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Post by: Zegovia on July 10, 2006, 04:08:00 pm
I say minigun.. and its a shame, people should respect it, it takes alot of cunning to use it propperly... :-\

And ive seen helluva many minimi users lateley, so i cant really agree on that... :P
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: T-Bone on July 10, 2006, 04:09:33 pm
Brock:
i think you mean desert wind. The one with the 3 bridges at the top?
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: M0ose on July 10, 2006, 04:35:09 pm
never seen anyone using stationary gun. like ever. :P

other than that i don't see a lot of people using minimis, or (okay i'll say it) miniguns.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: homey188 on July 10, 2006, 06:43:39 pm
I haven't used an m79 for over two months, yay.
There are lots of spas in realistic servers, it kills in a hit or two.
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Post by: nosyg on July 10, 2006, 06:55:07 pm
There are few weapons which are mostly not used:
Minigun, Minimi & Spas.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: jbigz on July 10, 2006, 08:29:09 pm
Like i said, i think spas should be much more popular. i think it is unpopular because it is "unpredictable" (to some) the way the bullets spray. I just use my charge tactics, either stay at their level or always fly above them, headshots. because if you let them get above you, spas sprays but its still good at close range. plus i use spas VERY often to boost teammates. I think spas is extremely good all-around except long range. it does struggle in far-mid range, but a skilled user can get the shrapnel to all fall in the same area.
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Post by: Sanitars on July 10, 2006, 09:53:30 pm
I'd say Deagles or Minigun. Depends on the server settings.
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Post by: iDante on July 10, 2006, 10:05:52 pm
Deagles are good. If you get used to it.  I see plenty of people using it in small games which are all I play.
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Post by: Didimow on July 11, 2006, 10:08:08 am
Minigun. Almost everyone hates it, even most newbs.
I guess im one of the few that loves it then.
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Post by: pero on July 11, 2006, 12:12:03 pm
I like the minigun, i can usually squeeze a few kills off with it before i die (usually).

I think it would become a little more popular if it didn't have such lousy bink.

And same goes for the minimi. A good gun with just a little too much bink.
minigun does have some excessive bink but usually if your good bink doesnt matter much..and people who say you should click for every shot with ak and minimi or fire 3 shot burst probably suck with tthat weapon anyway :d

and mister angry minigun maybe doesnt suck but its by far the worst primary in soldat..surfing is its only good ability
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: EsPiO on July 11, 2006, 12:59:11 pm
Its pretty obvious that the Minigun is the least used weapon to me but after that its probably the Deagles, everyone (including me) stopped using them after 1.2.1? I think!

A lot also depends on what maps you play on too, close quarters all you see is the M79 but on more open maps people tend to switch to other weapons like AK or Minimi
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: Gore on July 11, 2006, 02:26:58 pm
minigun because it sucks, shold be removed from the game and put something useful in that slot, a stick for example.

No, YOU suck. Because you can't use it properly to get a kill. I've been using it, and trying the most effective ways to get kills....

Haha, it always happen... there is always a guy who swear by the weapon and says he top #1 in the server when uses it/against noobz). I won't argue with you  because server's stats are pretty clear :) . 
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Post by: Mr. Domino on July 11, 2006, 02:32:03 pm
I see more minigunners than Desert Eagle users myself. I'm thinking the Spas is on the way to replacing them as the favored short range weapon after the M79. Really, the Spas has roughly the same range and strength as the Desert Eagles along with a quicker reload and boosting ability.
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Post by: mike323 on July 11, 2006, 04:11:22 pm
Yep, minigun followed by minimi. Deagles are now unpopular because they were nerfed. Before, 2 hits usually guaranteed a kill, now 3 are required a lot of the time.
noo...I'm still a loyal user of the deagles. You have to get near the head for them to work properly. I think the least used weapon is the mini. A little damage increase could knock it back into balance though.
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Post by: ***ARNSinator*** on July 12, 2006, 05:30:57 am
never seen anyone using stationary gun. like ever. :P
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 Whenever i go on a server with stationary guns i always see people on them, infact its a rarity not to :). I myself am still a noob, ;) (three weeks experience) and find the guns a very easy quick kill and u cant miss ;D. They very boring and campish but i always see fellow noobs using them. If they use them too much people figure you out and own u with thier m79s lol. I think people also use them because they suck at everything and or the other players keep owning them ;). Trust me i no i am a NOOB. :P
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Post by: ColonD on July 12, 2006, 01:40:31 pm
Minigun. Almost everyone hates it, even most newbs.

Agreed
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Post by: Jessica on July 12, 2006, 03:40:24 pm
Well the minigun is used a lot to surf...But as far as kills, minigun is last...I mean even fists beat it in kills in most servers... Then of course, the chainsaw follows right after the minigun as the second least amount of kills in most servers...  ::)

But I love the saw...Yes rarely do I get a kill with it, but when I do for some reason I seem to always get doubles with it. But once again, I rarely get that close to the person.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: -Vis- on July 12, 2006, 07:13:54 pm
I see more minigunners than Desert Eagle users myself. I'm thinking the Spas is on the way to replacing them as the favored short range weapon after the M79. Really, the Spas has roughly the same range and strength as the Desert Eagles along with a quicker reload and boosting ability.

Uhh... the Deagles have somewhere around twice the range of the spas. Try it out ;)
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Post by: Mr. Domino on July 12, 2006, 08:26:25 pm
I see more minigunners than Desert Eagle users myself. I'm thinking the Spas is on the way to replacing them as the favored short range weapon after the M79. Really, the Spas has roughly the same range and strength as the Desert Eagles along with a quicker reload and boosting ability.

Uhh... the Deagles have somewhere around twice the range of the spas. Try it out ;)

Not at all. On a flat plane aiming horizontally, both fire about mid-range, though the Desert Eagles do extend just a bit. Both guns can fire across the map -- those Spas shots travel far -- it's just that the weak the Spas shots break apart make it useless at that a full screen range.  Try it out.  :P
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: -Vis- on July 12, 2006, 08:49:55 pm
Ok.. well I just tried it out. I stood on a flat piece of land, and shot both weapons horizontally to my right.

The deagles' shots hit the ground approximately 50% further away than the spas shots.

Here's an ascii representation (I aligned it with my Soldat window).

Spas

|---------------------------------------> Hit where the arrow ends.

Deagles

|--------------------------------------------------------> Right here baby.

Maybe not twice as far, but hardly a marginal difference either. :P

I guess our ideas about what "the same range" is differs slightly. Mine seems to be a bit more precise, while yours is more general. Fair enough?
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Post by: Officer_Bulbock on July 12, 2006, 11:50:07 pm
minigun because it sucks, shold be removed from the game and put something useful in that slot, a stick for example.

No, YOU suck. Because you can't use it properly to get a kill. I've been using it, and trying the most effective ways to get kills....

Haha, it always happen... there is always a guy who swear by the weapon and says he top #1 in the server when uses it/against noobz). I won't argue with you  because server's stats are pretty clear :) . 

And theres always somebody who trashes the minigun for no real reason.

The circle of life closes.
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: 13579 on July 13, 2006, 12:08:33 am
...wtf?



I use the minimi alot!

the socomers I rarly see but I ALWAYS use the socom, i press the
mouse so fast its like a automatic :D


I usually never see a ak-74 user. I cant rember the last time i saw one.
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Post by: CheeSeMan. on July 13, 2006, 05:53:31 am
lol my topic was revived way to go!!!!!! Well the noob problem is getting worse and worse pfff

offtopic: That sig looks a bit too big mister :P
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Post by: CheeSeMan. on July 13, 2006, 09:46:59 am
ITS THE FUCKING RAMBO BOW DOH!
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: -Vis- on July 13, 2006, 10:25:12 am
ITS THE ****ING RAMBO BOW DOH!

not on rambomatch servers, it isn't :D
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: S4R on July 13, 2006, 11:14:43 am
Minigun is the hottest weapon ever. I can't believe clans like ES, EF, or BH have no Minigun pros like me.

;)

And why is everyone using chainsaw now?
Title: Re: LEAST used weapon.
Post by: -Vis- on July 13, 2006, 01:07:37 pm
Because the chainsaw, it turns out, can be very effective in many situations. Apparently it's been underestimated for a long time, and more people are finding out the wonders of the pwnage that is teh saw!!!
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Post by: Shadow G-Unit on July 14, 2006, 05:06:18 pm
socom i agree. <--Sounds like YODA! BTW I LOVE UR SIG BROCK!