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Title: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 03:40:39 am
Some time ago, some modders and me were doing Epic Wars, a futuristic based mod. I decided to finish it, it should be, and I've got a lot of work done, if some one wants to cooperate PM or just post it there, maybe I'll need some help with sounds.

Some new weapons:
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/931/xmazj1.png)
(transparency by PaFel, thanks :D)
 


Wish me luck
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Dairy on January 31, 2008, 07:28:34 am
For me more shading wouldnt hurt. But I like them, pretty original and nice outlined.

That grenade launcher looks pretty cool.

As I said I wouldnt mind to see more shading with some other colors, pure gray makes it too metalic and kind of unform. Like they are all from the same material or so which in fact isnt impossible (unnormal) or wrong.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 07:47:23 am
More shadding...? Lets see what i can do :D
I will try to do some camos, for the sniper rifle and the AR.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: PaFel on January 31, 2008, 08:35:34 am
I will try to do some camos,

For now I'm the king of camos propably (M24 (http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20223.0;id=12647;image), SR-25...), but let's see how other's work will look like. ;)

Quite nice weapons. Here you have also transparent image so shading won't be so filled by this fleshy green :)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 08:39:46 am
Hehehehe, well if i see that i can't get a great camo, you could help me, sir King of the camos? :P

Thanks a lot of the transparency
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Mangled* on January 31, 2008, 08:42:22 am
Looks nice. The 84 looks a lot like an MP5 from where I'm standing...
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 09:00:49 am
Yeah... its based on mp5 :P  i done another version for the smg, and a little camo'ed AR
- (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/329/camo1jn3.png)

- (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8053/smg2nb2.png)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: PaFel on January 31, 2008, 09:06:15 am
The olive on AR should be more intensive because for now it looks like grey if you don't zoom.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 09:30:25 am
So.... can you help me PaFel? all the ''camos'' that i do look like normal one
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: PaFel on January 31, 2008, 10:19:33 am
A bit lighter green and also 2nd version with lighter metal so contrast is a bit better.

It's still not very good. Just make green a bit lighter.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 10:47:33 am
Thanks PaFel!
I need ideas for some weapons... i'll do similar ones to Ak for rebels, and some kind of aliens also :P
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on January 31, 2008, 03:47:08 pm
Btw, where are other modder's weapons? Or even mine.

http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=16705.0

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/87/gunuq8.png)
Laser Carbine [---for 2 slot---]
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/Henito/bmg.png)
Ballos Minigun [---for 4 slot---]
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/Henito/ew-gun.png)
EWP-Cannon [---for 7 slot---]
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7134/snipernv0.png)
Neptune SR [---for 8 slot---]
(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7756/ewrocketbp4.png)
Homing Missile [---for Law slot---]
I'll do other stuff and alternatives if you need help. :P
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on January 31, 2008, 03:57:51 pm
I need the permission, right? so if they don't give me the permision i can't add them... I want Espadon's one :P
Ah there will be credits, but it will be like 'Modding Team' so i accept every help, thanks henito, if you can help me with gfx/sfx ::) ...

EDIT: Just a experimental weapon.... (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5690/plasmacannonlj1.png)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Laser Guy on January 31, 2008, 05:34:51 pm
Hmmm, weps looking good :D

Date Posted: January 31, 2008, 08:26:27 pm
PS is this the one I'm making sounds for?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on January 31, 2008, 07:10:43 pm
Ok, I try make some gfx/sfx, all these listed weapons what will be not included in final weaponset, they go to alternatives.

Sounds for all my weapons can be taken from Doom 3, if you want to known.

Plasma Rifle sfx for Laser Carbine.
Chaingun sfx for Ballos Minigun.
BFG sfx for EWP-Cannon.
Machinegun sfx for Neptune SR.
Rocket Launcher sfx for Homing Missile.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 01, 2008, 05:21:41 am
Uh... ok no problem, the sounds in doom are nice :P

Laser guy, yes... those guns you gave to me are partially for that mod
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Laser Guy on February 01, 2008, 08:09:54 am
Ok, another sound, supposed to be for "Pwerfull sniper rifle" you listed in mail.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 01, 2008, 08:55:53 am
YEaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! i love that sound, this will be for the 83 SR
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Laser Guy on February 01, 2008, 09:39:26 am
Another souds you requested, the Assault Rifle souds... these are from a P90 :P

EDIT: gotta go to swimming pool
EDIT2: What's the mod team so far?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 01, 2008, 09:55:47 am
Well its nice but it's going to be for the SMG :P i like it
The mod team was:
 - Temp3st
 - Bunney
 - Espadon
 - Valorman
 - Dairy
 - Henito Kisou
 - Me
Now if you want make sounds, you can be in

We made a lot of graphics so we need to recopilate them. Lets see if i can :P
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Laser Guy on February 01, 2008, 12:11:55 pm
Ok, can ya gimme ann updated list of sounds u need?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 01, 2008, 01:50:27 pm
Ya.... i pm you, ok?
Lets see if they are that good as those ones ;D

EDIT: here i have some new weapons:
 AISR-71 (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/592/aisr71sz3.png)

 AIIR (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9985/aiirpu5.png)

 AIF-70 (http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2149/aif70le6.png) (remake of a weapon from my Advanced Infiltration Pack)

EDIT2: Brand new?
 
 PR g56: (http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/184/precisionriflefc5.png)+ Heavy Caliber version
 
 IAR g14: (http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7773/g14ol5.png)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 01, 2008, 06:11:52 pm
 IAR g14 sucks (mostly handle to scope part), but I love design of AIIR, you really got mad, techno-occultist style - not too much cyberpunk, but psycho as hell, Sky. :P

PR g56: first two without that dumb scope looks ok for me ;)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Espadon on February 01, 2008, 08:03:10 pm
Of course you can use the weapons I donated, it was part of the contract. Your weapons have matured quite a bit, I'll give you that.

AIIR is great. PR G56 needs to be flattened a bit.

I won't be doing any more weapons for this project though, sorry.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 03:40:33 am
Ok no problem Espadon, you made a great colaboration, thanks
Henito, so... are you saying that i need to do more weapons like for rebels, wih similar styles to ak, uzi and so? if its that Ok┬  ;D

And yeah.... the g14 sucks, lets see if i can fix it

EDIT: Another weapon...
 SMG (No name :/ ideas please) (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2964/smgsjw8.png)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 02, 2008, 04:39:54 am
EDIT: Another weapon...
 SMG (No name :/ ideas please) (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2964/smgsjw8.png)

Overblood SMG? This time, Open looks better. Btw, if you want interface for this mod, similiar like I did in v0.4 Nightfall beta or SAC, just tell me, or even details (what icons etc).
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 04:48:21 am
Yeah, i'll make a regged one, if you can help me.... thanks :P
Also i need help on alien weapons.... please
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 02, 2008, 05:01:32 am
Just tell me which one (slot numbers like 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 - which weapon replacement if they needed to be new), I just dont known what you decided with default weaponset.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on February 02, 2008, 09:10:57 am
The PR g56 and the IAR g14 are friggin MASSIVE. The shading quality's incredible, but are you sure they'll fit in menu well?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 09:30:39 am
I need a configuration compatible with 1.4.2 or i'll make folders, i don't know....

Thanks Frunk, and yes they fit on the menu, i'm doing some pre-release
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 02, 2008, 09:51:25 am
Omg, again, new Soldat is compatible with old weapon mods (also old config). If this is so big problem for you, make folders.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 10:06:27 am
Ya .... but i mean, i'll ad the .ini and that's the problem
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on February 02, 2008, 10:40:53 am
The .ini shouldn't be a problem unless it's a realistic mod. Even then it's just a matter of re-balancing it.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 10:42:15 am
No make the .ini is not the problem, the real problem is: Will soldat, accept the configurated ini┬┐?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Espadon on February 02, 2008, 10:51:32 am
Yes it will, as long as the configurator is updated to put in the Recoil=X lines.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: PaFel on February 02, 2008, 11:01:22 am
Yes it will, as long as the configurator is updated to put in the Recoil=X lines.

I tried adding it to the binnary code but it's imposible.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 11:03:50 am
Well i'll try the configuration, if not, folders :/ so lets see what happens

EDIT: Now help me at weapon making (aliens) Pleaseee
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 02, 2008, 11:27:47 am
You just wait, even if I post something after 24:00, sorry, not faster. By whole time I updating Hentai and Nightfall, so it's additional delay.

I have also plans in my mind to make Hitman Contracts Only mod (feck all trilogy/mixed weapons/series mod ideas :P), so another slowdown.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 02, 2008, 11:43:34 am
ok no problem henito :D
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 02, 2008, 07:58:52 pm
Sorry, but at this moment I do only three guns.

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/Henito/ALNDisplacer.png)
ALN Displacer

Progress: 1/3 done.
Next:        ALN Transmutator

Btw I suggest you to make easier recognize, simple prefixes like ALN Fusion Beam (for alien) and RBL Auto-Shotgun (for rebels).
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: PapaSurf on February 02, 2008, 08:26:28 pm
Having X in the name with a bunch of letters and numbers isn't as cool as you might think it is.  Come up with something that is original, appropriate, and not corny.

Sniper Rifle - too generic

XSF 90b AR - too obscure

Pulse Ion Cannon - too cheezy

Think of guns from games in the past:  Needler, Gravity Gun, Lancer, Brute Shot, SCAR, Flak Cannon etc.  Those were pretty memorable names that walked the line between boring and ridiculous.

If you're going for pseudo realism with the names, consider this formula:

[Manufacturer name] [Capital letter (M or G is common, or maybe 2 letters like AK)+number] [revision number (a4 or b2)] [nickname that fits the weapon/description of weapon]

Example: Bruschev A104c Antimatter Rifle

^Bad example, but if your name sounds worse than that, don't use it.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 03, 2008, 03:19:18 am
Thanks papasurf.

About the weapons: i ever do weapons a little bit obscure but i'll try...
And i'm goign to change the name of the weapons using that formula.

I really love that weapon henito. If we follow the Espadon's drawing, the names should be: Aliens: Wraiths; Humans: TEC Marines (Terran Exloration Corps) I like the names and the sketches.... the gosteks are done, well we need to do Wraith + Invis
EDIT: ah also Iznagk ... skinny aliens and they don't floar. They have Bio Weapons
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 03, 2008, 04:22:24 am
Just wait for these two guns, I still undecided about colors, so temporary are empty.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 03, 2008, 04:31:05 am
Wow they look so nice... Henito, can you help me with Iznagk gostek? The sketch is in the page 3 of the old topic
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 03, 2008, 04:41:09 am
Quote
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/SGunny/TEC-Wraith-Iznagk.png)
That one in the lower, right corner looking like battle android? Graycale or concrete color theme?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 03, 2008, 04:59:36 am
Don't know... grayscale armor and then some parts in light maroon or red
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Espadon on February 03, 2008, 10:04:43 am
Iznagk was originally supposed to be a kiwi-greenish color with yellow highlights. Think avocado. ;)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 03, 2008, 10:13:18 am
Ok so... should be that coloud... you can change it Henito?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Espadon on February 03, 2008, 10:37:14 am
Well personally I think Henito's deviated pretty far from what the Izagk weaponry was originally envisioned as -- it was supposed to be organic looking, etc. Of course, all intellectual property is now yours and you can change it as you see fit.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 03, 2008, 10:40:12 am
Hey wait. you can continue cooperating with us, right now you do, you help us on those things so... its nice
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 03, 2008, 10:55:40 am
Well personally I think Henito's deviated pretty far from what the Izagk weaponry was originally envisioned as -- it was supposed to be organic looking, etc. Of course, all intellectual property is now yours and you can change it as you see fit.
They aren't Iznagk weapons! Only author's concept. I didn't wanted to do any organic stuff related to Iznagk this time, so this is your overinterpretation.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Espadon on February 03, 2008, 12:33:08 pm
Oh okay. It was just a misunderstanding.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 15, 2008, 10:14:35 am
Ok, i have a public beta, is just a beta, so don't worry I'll add all the weapons when we finish it

It includes:
 - graphics
 - sfx
 - gosteks
 - ini

I fixed the name of the law replacement for Antimaterial Rifle, ah sorry the name of the shanaw is changed for the on from warzone, sorry just an error :P . The sounds are nice and with the ini it makes a great mod, i need help on the weapon-gfx specially on the bullets, please help
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7688/weaponsah7.png)

I need people for beta testers, they will have the next versions of the gfx, ini and sfx

Download beta (http://files.filefront.com/Epic+Wars+betazip/;9636792;/fileinfo.html)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 15, 2008, 11:02:25 am
Very nice composition and weapons choice (color theme mostly like BMG related to LM89 A2, P56 Punisher work perfectly with lower weapon, HMG etc), also GJ with weapon-gfx, killberserk seem not working.

I can betatest, but after download not faster than in saturday.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 15, 2008, 11:09:47 am
Ok, don't worry.

Thanks, i need to fix some gfx. But the problem is the ini, because, if we add config we can't add the ini (or at least in 1.4)
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 15, 2008, 02:41:02 pm
Thougs:

- most weapons have yellow shells, even energy/plasma weapons
- eagles have wrong images when dropped
- sniper rifle has too bright clip, in game looks like white
- knife - white tail?
- chainsaw - no sound
- maybe law is too bright

Eww maybe something more, but I cant think properly now:P
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 15, 2008, 03:54:45 pm
Ok, i know it i will change those shells don't worry :P
I'll change that clip on the sniper rifle, add dark parts on the law adn change that n-deagles

What you mean with tail?
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: blackdevil0742 on February 17, 2008, 09:15:42 am
Secondary Pistol: Weak "waterish" sound.

#2 The fire rate is too fast.
#5 It is way too overpowered

Overall the weapons seemed to unbalanced as some shot fast while the other like #7 had explosive shells and you could shoot 3 of them pretty fast.

But you had some good sounds for the #6, #8, LAW and some other guns.
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on February 17, 2008, 09:27:27 am
Ok, i'll change that ussocom sound.
The slot 2 rate of fire is 1, so i could change it to arround 3 or just put a lower damage
The slot 5 should be an auto shotgun, i like and is low distance and fast, i will put a lower damage also

So you htink that slot 7 should shot faster... uhmm ok i'll try that.
On next verion (for beta tester) i will do that the slot 3 shots more slower and add blink to slot 9
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 17, 2008, 11:14:34 am
Oh, that "white" pixels at handle of knife.
Btw, too big recoil for BMG, just make a little smaller.

Also try make better clips, magazines at every weapons, when I first time saw clip on 2 - omfg, what is this blackie? :P Plasma guns are mostly powered on energy cells like in Doom, so where you see already case for and exactly this energy cell? This rule apply to all weapons, not only mine, try to not add new elements, use part/s from original design for better visible effect
Title: Re: - Preview - Epic Wars
Post by: -Skykanden- on March 02, 2008, 06:42:31 am
Oh, ok.
I'm going to do the clips with png and glows, so i think that the i'll be great, that week i think that i'm not going to have internet, so i'lldo that work

Date Posted: February 17, 2008, 12:34:20 pm
The last effort!
Last weapon additions to the mod. There will be a lot of the weapons made on the old topic, and those ones:
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/884/weaponsez3.png)
There is not going to be any configuration because don't supports .png, so do it manual

I can't say the release date, but i promise a great mod
Title: EPIC Wars beta *REUP*
Post by: Henito Kisou on June 09, 2010, 02:59:13 pm
For those who didn't tasted, and because -Skykanden- has never finished the real one.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/Henito/epicwarsbeta.png)
 [Alphaguy] http://www.box.net/shared/ehmemqg2v1