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Title: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 10, 2008, 01:20:01 am
[Edited]

Soldat 1.5.0 is still currently being developed, and is getting very close to its next stage...
Open Public Beta!

- Added female gosteks with breasts and pigtails. April fools joke.


Question:
Should MM include female gosteks in Soldat ? It was a joke in the Soldat 1.5.0 Preview, but women fight and die in the war too, and they by all means are soldiers, soldat, just like men. Would it attract more female gamers ? What do you think ?


This thread points out the sad issue regarding the transparency of female players, and how there is an extremely biased view
that Soldat is only a man's game. (MM said so in an interview, and used this as a reason to kill the idea of Female gosteks)

The idea that Female Soldats do not exist, or are considered a lower minority, is wrong.
 
Because of this wrong biased view, whenever girls try to be themselves they have to deal with crap spewed out by the public.
It's just not welcoming to female players, and that hurts the player numbers, which indirectly affects the growth of Soldat
and potential new talents. Wouldn't it be a nice change to have a girl in your clan ?  ;D

Shouldn't they deserve more respect ??
Shouldn't females be represented fairly in Soldat ?

Share your female soldats experiences and show MM the realistic picture of Soldat ! Be the change you want to see in Soldat !  8)



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Female soldats do exist, eventhough they are extremely rare.
Do you know any ?? Prove that Soldat females are not myths !

Maybe you don't know any female soldats, and I know exactly why.
That is because most guys are idiots. The moment a girl uses a girly name she gets insulted on whether she's fake or whether she's fat, ugly, or have big boobs. It is completely annoying, and is usually why girls prefer to act as boys in Soldat.

Used to see Lady Solja from Rebel Warriors a long time ago, before she retired. She had some funny taunts. She even tried to create an all-girls Soldat clan. :'(

It's a big secret conspiracy. Girls have been plotting to triumph over guys in Soldat for the longest of times. Have you experienced the wrath of a woman with PMS ? Imagine them channelling that into Soldat, god damn.  :-X

Then there's the crazy sawer Sarah you sometimes see in !Elite SnS.
My god she is nasty. Her speed, technique and brutality, reminds me of Poppin Fresh........ xD

If female soldats could be treated with respect, maybe you'll see more of them out there. But I don't think that could ever be possible.........   :-\

You might not realize it, but genetically women are superior compared to men.
The pros out there kicking your ass could be females, and you might never ever realize it.

Hell, even Outcast could be female and all those male pictures may have been borrowed from her brother. You never know, you never know.

For example, I used gender genie to check the writings of Outcast, to guess the gender. Just an example, I don't mean anything oh great one spare me.  :'(

Here's some of the writings of Outcast collected from the forums.......

(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/994/89873014dn7.png) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1033/60319711hw1.png) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2646/55738290ou8.png) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9973/26102604wd3.png) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9973/26102604wd3.4ec65bbc0a.jpg) (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=503&i=26102604wd3.png)

Yes, shocking, indeed. It's just an example, that you never know if a pro out there is secretly a girl....  also, we might never even realize being defeated by girls, being the idiots we are. :o

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Disclaimer:

Gender Genie'ing people was meant to be a joke.  ;D









Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Pie on April 10, 2008, 01:51:11 am
And i should care because?
Yes girls exists, What's your point?

If you're talking about people joining servers as female names and people heckling them, that's hardly your problem. If you care so much join a feminist group. Why would you trust anything that calls itself a "Genie"?

"hi, i'm a genie, Give me your wallet."

Not to mention it doesn't tell you how it got to the conclusion, it could just be pulling facts from no where. It can't be trusted because you can't tell how it is drawn to those conclusions, So your post about it is invalid.


Also, Random bolding makes me get your point oh so much more, it truly does.

Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 10, 2008, 02:13:59 am
There's no need to attack me....... chill. If you don't give a sh|t then so be it.  ;)

FYI, the Gender Genie uses a simplified version of an algorithm developed by Moshe Koppel, Bar-Ilan University in Israel, and Shlomo Argamon, Illinois Institute of Technology, to predict the gender of an author.

If you're interested you can take a look at it's algorithm, pretty interesting stuff.

http://www.cs.biu.ac.il/~koppel/papers/male-female-text-final.pdf
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: n0b- on April 10, 2008, 02:25:48 am
It's a spy!
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5415/fmdb4.png)
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Hair|Trigger on April 10, 2008, 02:55:35 am
This is the biggest load of Sh*t I have ever heard.   Some of the soldat pros are females.. whoa, and this means they are better than men, GET A LIFE
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Crimson Goth on April 10, 2008, 03:09:01 am
I know a few, but VERY few. Not saying the names though.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Outcast on April 10, 2008, 03:20:56 am
/me strokes his vagina and moans with pleasure while thinking of lonewolfs ownage in public servers

Seriously, what the hell.

There are women soldat players out there. Some are quite good. How the pro clans know they have males or females? Easy. Almost all of them use Ventrillo, which means voice communication which makes recognition of gender a trivial affair. And no lonewolf, no woman will ever get off on your soldat skills.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Pie on April 10, 2008, 03:44:34 am
/me strokes his vagina and moans with pleasure while thinking of lonewolfs ownage in public servers

Seriously, what the hell.

There are women soldat players out there. Some are quite good. How the pro clans know they have males or females? Easy. Almost all of them use Ventrillo, which means voice communication which makes recognition of gender a trivial affair. And no lonewolf, no woman will ever get off on your soldat skills.
I was waiting for the fisting.
And outcast brought it home, Yeeha?
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: -Major- on April 10, 2008, 05:40:13 am
I guess this is all about your tries to act as a female soldat but gotten rejected all of the times. and why would a female player just jump out and say "HAI! ama gurl"?.

You might not realize it, but genetically women are superior compared to men.
also this is bullshiat.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Pie on April 10, 2008, 05:48:16 am
You might not realize it, but genetically women are superior compared to men.
Edit:
You're stupid.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Rai-Dei on April 10, 2008, 09:48:36 am
Looks like Lone Wolf himself is a woman.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: mar77a on April 10, 2008, 10:34:46 am
Lone Woman, not gonna lie.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 10, 2008, 12:15:23 pm
/me strokes his vagina and moans with pleasure while thinking of lonewolfs ownage in public servers

Seriously, what the hell.

There are women soldat players out there. Some are quite good. How the pro clans know they have males or females? Easy. Almost all of them use Ventrillo, which means voice communication which makes recognition of gender a trivial affair. And no lonewolf, no woman will ever get off on your soldat skills.

Ventrillo always had been a source of validation of the real gender of gamers. But don't be fooled so easily, it's a double sided knife. Things are always not what they seem.  :o

There are voice changer softwares out there, where anyone, just anyone, can easily sound like an young girl, young boy, man, even an old woman. It's so easy for girls to disguise themselves as boys it's not even funny. Even MM has acknowledged the larger and rising number of female soldats. It's scary, but we guys might be losing to girls without even knowing it.   :-[

Don't ask me how I know. I just know, alright !!??  :'(

And women do adore gaming skills. I mean look at Korea's fanbase for the Starcraft tournaments. Who the hell do you think are squealing and yelling out there for their beloved Top gamer ??  ;)

Taken from a korean blog:
http://thedailykimchi.blogspot.com/2007/05/starcraft-2-south-koreas-dream-come.html

"The most popular and legendary Starcraft gamer is Lim Yo-Hwan (known to many as SlayerS_`BoxeR` or better yet, Mr. Starcraft; how does a 600,000+ member fan club sound to you?), a 27 year old who needs bodyguards to keep away screaming female fans (and boys) from him."

Emperor from Starcraft:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Yo-Hwan

Hell, if MM would actually focus more on ADVERTISING, and introduce the HOT COMPETITION aspects for Soldat, god knows what could happen in the future. Hold massive tournaments with prize money !! Get advertising companies to sponsor events !! Focus on Soldat instead of new projects, don't abandon your baby !! MM !! GOD !! Are you reading this !!! 
:'(
 
 I personally think Soldat is much more exciting and fun to watch compared to Starcraft. It's even better than other FPS because you get total control like never before. NONE OF THE 3D-GAMERS CAN DO THE BACKFLIP ! 2D-battles are so much more EPIC.  Imagine if much larger maps were introduced, and player count could be increased. Imagine if there were vehicles. Imagine if each soldat soldier were given an internal-lifepack, and could be resurrected by teammates in a limited time, hell yeah, soldat comrades !!!! Imagine getting every single player to register and donate to support the cause !! Imagine having every gamer in world having a Soldat account  !! Imagine massive wars and Epic combats and female fans watching it all on the big screen screaming your name out of adoration.  Imagine.    [retard]

Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Xaero on April 10, 2008, 01:16:16 pm
U talk about girls like you never even touched one.
If so, get a life, seriously.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: BondJamesBond on April 10, 2008, 01:17:57 pm
Uh oh, Lonewolf just mentioned vehicles. V
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Rai-Dei on April 10, 2008, 01:20:53 pm
The sheer idiocy lately is just amazing. Lone there are many girls who play soldat. I don't find it strange that they don't talk to you, because like in real life you seem to be one hell of a creepy mofo.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Demonic on April 10, 2008, 01:22:38 pm
I know of two north american players, a boy and a girl, who have met over soldat and met up and had sex and stuff

also there were two hungarians who met over soldat and then had a several year long relationship

but it wasn't because of the leet soldat skillz you fantasize about. Also, all the clicking does come in handy.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Darkchild on April 10, 2008, 01:26:13 pm
Am i the only one who thinks this thread is a little creepy?

Darkchild
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: BondJamesBond on April 10, 2008, 01:28:48 pm
Hey Darkchild. A/S/L?
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Darkchild on April 10, 2008, 01:33:44 pm
Lol, im a 14 year old girl from your home town!






































no, im a 24 year old Squaddie from England.

Darkchild
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: El_Spec on April 10, 2008, 01:40:08 pm
Every shooter game has at least 1 female player.  Most likely I would think a few hundred, depending on the games' popularity.  Hell, some of the kids from my school which I told them about Soldat are females and many of them play on a daily bases.  Most of the time it's just us in a private server with DM or CTF.  The point is, we all know females in Soldat exist, this isn't new news. 

Also, I think that chart that determines someone's gender based on their writing is complete bullsh[size=0pt][/size][/size]it.  I mean, it is somewhat possible to tell their gender if they wrote work like about their thoughts or personal life situations.  But general conversations, I doubt it.  It may be accurate, but only for certain things.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: .Long-Range on April 10, 2008, 01:44:29 pm
There are more female gamers than you think. They're just all smart enough not to reveal their gender.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 10, 2008, 01:59:39 pm
I know of two north american players, a boy and a girl, who have met over soldat and met up and had sex and stuff

also there were two hungarians who met over soldat and then haad a several year long relationship

but it wasn't because of the leet soldat skillz you fantasize about. Also, all the clicking does come in handy.

LOLZ, AWESOME.  ;D

There are more female gamers than you think. They're just all smart enough not to reveal their gender.

Exactly my point. So, would it be possible for the top pros out there secretly being girls ?
Yes it matters and it is extremely important, because We urgently need a Soldat babe as our icon for Soldat to advance the future of Soldat. It attract guys naturally, and women would also have a person to look up to, instead of being cast into the shadows.

More new players means more money as they register, and better updates for Soldat. Best way to advertise Soldat ! Know any Soldat Babes ? Nominate ! ;D
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Chariot on April 10, 2008, 02:27:56 pm
loan wlf is so hawt bcoz he pwn newbs XD
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Demonic on April 10, 2008, 02:45:10 pm
There were some girls in the competitive soldat scene ( lady solja, drivenunder, essentle ), but it's still a mans world out here, so don't get your hopes up. :p

plus one fellow of mine commented driven's playing as 'bet she can handle a cock better than that mp5'.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Rai-Dei on April 10, 2008, 02:49:38 pm
Was it Marbire, BloodShaman, or Fabmanx, Demonic?
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Flamingo on April 10, 2008, 02:55:05 pm
Stop wanting to have girls in a community, who cares if anyone is male or female, it's not like the internet is only made for a/s/l.


oh and im not homosexual
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Xaero on April 10, 2008, 02:59:53 pm
Stop wanting to have girls in a community, who cares if anyone is male or female, it's not like the internet is only made for a/s/l.


oh and im not homosexual

You're ho.. oh nvm.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Espadon on April 10, 2008, 03:10:44 pm
I played Soldat with a female Soldat player once. From what I gather from how he talked and her interests, she was a prostitute. She was quite spiteful too. Sex icon for Soldat? Er- no. Doesn't quite work with a small-time game with characters 40 pixels high. Besides, all it would do is attract little snot-nosed 14 year olds who are missing half their cerebrum and are all juiced up with hormones.

Is it me being egocentric again or did ERC put your brain on fire, Loan-Shark? :P
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Blue-ninja on April 10, 2008, 04:35:28 pm
*Blue-ninja wonders if this thread requires some serious facepalming because of all the fisting...*

I accept the fact that there are females playing Soldat, seeing as I have a lot of definite proof as well. What I can't accept is that Soldat will continue to be a extremely biased and excessively manly game, with none of the potential benefits included in play.

Female gosteks might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but as a lot of us know, women didn't go to war dressed as Red Sonja. Yes, they most likely went to war dressed in men's combat gear, since seeing as both sides probably will not exercise restraint on women as well.

I know a lot of you that have a positive spin on female gosteks are very likely thinking of Advance War's infantry specialist, Sami, but she's fictional, and the idea of female gosteks will continue to be fictional for as long as Michal Marcinkowski continues to live.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Thinkto urself on April 10, 2008, 04:51:03 pm
/facepalms everyone
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Snow on April 10, 2008, 05:28:14 pm
Stop wanting to have girls in a community, who cares if anyone is male or female...

Exactly. Play the feckbollocksting game already.

And a note about the gosteks: they consist of a few pixels each. You can barely tell they have a gender. If Soldat gets 'female' gosteks... then we should have tranny, cross-gender, etc. gosteks as well. /facepalms also too.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 10, 2008, 08:17:47 pm

What I can't accept is that Soldat will continue to be a extremely biased and excessively manly game, with none of the potential benefits included in play.


Thank you, thank you, I was about to lose all hope in mankind.  :'(

There were some girls in the competitive soldat scene ( lady solja, drivenunder, essentle ), but it's still a mans world out here, so don't get your hopes up. :p


Wonder how far they went. ;D

I played Soldat with a female Soldat player once. From what I gather from how he talked and her interests, she was a prostitute. She was quite spiteful too. Sex icon for Soldat? Er- no. Doesn't quite work with a small-time game with characters 40 pixels high. Besides, all it would do is attract little snot-nosed 14 year olds who are missing half their cerebrum and are all juiced up with hormones.


Those snot-nosed 14 year olds were once me, and you.
The more players, the better, for the future of Soldat ! 

The Soldat Babe idea is fun, new, and refreshing ! It provides a picture of females who play Soldat ! It doesn't have to be a sex-icon-theme. More like, proud badass female soldier kind of image. [pigtail]

Come on, who's with me !! If you want something, you have to show that you really want it !! Show some support ! >:(

Soldat Babe Concept Art: Sami from advance wars
(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1525/samine0.png) (http://imageshack.us)

Or maybe you all prefer Soldat Dude ??  ::)


Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Zamorak on April 11, 2008, 01:33:34 am
So, you, by way of this new advertising technique, want to draw in boatloads of 14 y/o kids yipping to see hot girls while they play Soldat?

You are...misguided, to say the least.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Blue-ninja on April 11, 2008, 01:38:09 am
Make a female gostek mod then, if you want to be surrounded by cyberkinetically altered soldat tranvestites.

Just trying to be helpful...
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: I like shortshorts on April 11, 2008, 09:16:11 am
if they had in game females i could do everything in game...secks and buttsecks...kinky fuck....HAWT SEXUAL
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Pie on April 11, 2008, 09:37:55 am
-snip-
You've no idea how much of an idiot you are to me. So what, Females exist, stop the fucking presses. Yes there are females in soldat, yes they could probably beat us, no we should not care. As far as i'm concerned whatever i kill is just a score for me, i don't care if i kill a male a female, a white guy or a black guy, It doesn't matter it's a fucking game.

Drawing attention to them does squat, in all possabilites they don't care, they're not going to stand up and say "hey, imma girl and i just beat you, suckers." Because that would be drawing attention to the fact they have a little factory for making more of themselves built inside of them. (props to anyone who gets the joke)

Take your point of view and stick it, girls to soldat is not a new concept, although girls may be a new concept to you.
/rant
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 11, 2008, 10:00:55 am
One day, I was owned so terribly that I sh|t my pants and begged for mercy.
I was spared, and that monster was revealed to be a female gamer. I lost all pride and hope.
I was completely defeated by a female Soldat. Goddamnit the years of frustration and anger against male oppression was completely unleashed against me.  :'(

No. I don't want to talk about it further. I promised not to reveal her identity either.

I hope this does not happen one day to any of you.  No, maybe you were already owned and still don't even realize it. I am trying to make you realize the scary hidden truth.

The pros out there owning you could be secretly females. How would you feel ? Be honest. :'(
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Pie on April 11, 2008, 10:07:38 am
One day, I was owned so terribly that I sh|t my pants and begged for mercy.
I was spared, and that monster was revealed to be a female gamer. I lost all pride and hope.
I was completely defeated by a female Soldat. Goddamnit the years of frustration and anger against male oppression was completely unleashed against me.  :'(

No. I don't want to talk about it further. I promised not to reveal her identity either.

I hope this does not happen one day to any of you.  No, maybe you were already owned and still don't even realize it. I am trying to make you realize the scary hidden truth.

The pros out there owning you could be secretly females. How would you feel ? Be honest. :'(

That's like the opposite of being afraid of catching the "gays".
You're an idiot. Why would i be afraid of being beaten in a game, maybe if i was being beaten in the face in real life, but in a game, no.

edit:
how is being beaten by a female worse than being beaten by a male, are you saying it's surprising that a female could beat you, seeing you're the manliest male that ever lived?
You're sexist, I request you be banned for being stupid.  [retard]
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 11, 2008, 10:15:03 am
One day, I was owned so terribly that I sh|t my pants and begged for mercy.
I was spared, and that monster was revealed to be a female gamer. I lost all pride and hope.
I was completely defeated by a female Soldat. Goddamnit the years of frustration and anger against male oppression was completely unleashed against me.  :'(

No. I don't want to talk about it further. I promised not to reveal her identity either.

I hope this does not happen one day to any of you.  No, maybe you were already owned and still don't even realize it. I am trying to make you realize the scary hidden truth.

The pros out there owning you could be secretly females. How would you feel ? Be honest. :'(

That's like the opposite of being afraid of catching the "gays".
You're an idiot. Why would i be afraid of being beaten in a game, maybe if i was being beaten in the face in real life, but in a game, no.

Well, you see, back then, I never lost even once in hundreds of duels and dozens of clan challenges.
I would take on anyone, join clans in disguise, challenge every single fucking member and dominate their clan leaders. Once every single one of them submitted, I would leave the clan.

I have very high expectations of myself, whenever I do anything, I strive to do my best.

I go all out when I duel. I never ever take it easy, and I train hard to beef up my skills.
And when I am completely utterly defeated even when I am trying my best, it hurts.
Worst, it was a female. I was completely, utterly, shocked to the core.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Flamingo on April 11, 2008, 10:16:18 am
One day, I was owned so terribly that I sh|t my pants and begged for mercy.
I was spared, and that monster was revealed to be a female gamer. I lost all pride and hope.
I was completely defeated by a female Soldat. Goddamnit the years of frustration and anger against male oppression was completely unleashed against me.  :'(

No. I don't want to talk about it further. I promised not to reveal her identity either.

I hope this does not happen one day to any of you.  No, maybe you were already owned and still don't even realize it. I am trying to make you realize the scary hidden truth.

The pros out there owning you could be secretly females. How would you feel ? Be honest. :'(

tl;dr
Girls suck at any game they want to play.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Pie on April 11, 2008, 10:23:12 am

Well, you see, back then, I never lost even once in hundreds of duels and dozens of clan challenges.
I would take on anyone, join clans in disguise, challenge every single fecking member and dominate their clan leaders. Once every single one of them submitted, I would leave the clan.

I have very high expectations of myself, whenever I do anything, I strive to do my best.

I go all out when I duel. I never ever take it easy, and I train hard to beef up my skills.
And when I am completely utterly defeated even when I am trying my best, it hurts.
Worst, it was a female. I was completely, utterly, shocked to the core.

This is stupid. You got beaten so you cried, how old are you?
Also, ZOMG GIRLS PALY GAMEZ AN WIN? ZOMG!!1!1!!11
You're an idiot.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Snow on April 11, 2008, 10:34:56 am

That's like the opposite of being afraid of catching the "gays".
You're an idiot.


BAHAHAHAHA! Lone-Wolf, it would be refreshing to BE beaten/pwned by a female from time to time. It's nice to see female gamers. I want to see more on the servers. Male gamers still outnumber female gamers... well unless you play WoW (I think WoW is equal). However, I hate it when it's just some total sausage-fest. More diversity among the gamers means a better experience IMO. Demonic told a short story of two that met in a server. I find that pretty neat.


I go all out when I duel. I never ever take it easy, and I train hard to beef up my skills.
And when I am completely utterly defeated even when I am trying my best, it hurts.
Worst, it was a female. I was completely, utterly, shocked to the core.


You've already been called a sexist and now you make it worse for yourself. The above quote is not only arrogance, but discrimination. You were utterly shocked to the core because some female managed to pwn you, when you strive to be the best.

Discrimination of any kind whether it be racism, homphobia, nazism on that note, sexism, etc. all spawn from FEAR. Based on the above quote you see the female gender as weaker, less intelligent and obviously unable to possess the skills of a male. If a female can best you, it makes you feel "less of a man". You obviously have no experience at all with the opposite gender. Maybe go out, make some friends - female friends and perhaps you may see the light.

I'm not attacking you. I'm simply trying to be educational. You should watch what you say. I'm not female, but I sure as hell do find what you posted as offensive. Then again, after reading your last post... perhaps my words were just a waste of my own time. Good day.

--Snow.

Self-edit: Nazism itself isn't discrimination per say, it's a philosophy (albeit one that horribly fails), but it is a movement that MUST thrive on discrimination in order to grow. Nazism also grew out of fear. That is a seperate and lengthy explanation/story, so I'm not going to go into it.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: BondJamesBond on April 11, 2008, 12:00:08 pm
I swear to God Pie, you shut the feck up now. The feck are you calling him sexist for, you dumbsh*t? The original point of the topic was that female Soldat players should be respected.

Blue-Ninja, apparently, summed up Lone-Wolf's thoughts: What I can't accept is that Soldat will continue to be a extremely biased and excessively manly game.

The purpose of the story of Wolf's story is to show that there are more and better skilled female players out there than we think.

When Wolf said: The pros out there owning you could be secretly females. How would you feel ? He meant our perspective on female soldaters as a whole - not about how we lost to a girl.

And this is irrelevant but: Methane depleting the ozone? Goddamn it! You are a fecking idiot.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 11, 2008, 12:13:17 pm
Thanks for the support BondJamesBond, but there's no need to defend me.

People who understood the whole message of what I wrote, great.
If people who have different opinions, they have their own reasons. That's fine too.

Please don't invoke the fury of Outcast and the moderators ! Calm down !
Don't start a meaningless flame war !! :'(
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Snow on April 11, 2008, 01:03:19 pm
Haha, sigh. Again, one of those cases where I should have re-read the first post. Apologies. I take back what I said.
Anyway, if you are someone who wants female Soldat players to be respected then I commend you.

I have to learn to read threads better. >.< :P

--Snow.               

Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: jerich on April 11, 2008, 02:15:36 pm
I know of two north american players, a boy and a girl, who have met over soldat and met up and had sex and stuff

That's kinda creepy. Who the hell meets up from soldat and has a sexual relationship? I'm sure that no SoldatForum admin with long hair would ever do that.

As for your little topic, does it really matter that soldat has a bit of estrogen? I find it absurd you even used a bogus program to try and prove your point. Girls exist in soldat just like in real life, hopefully it's the same case for you.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Rai-Dei on April 11, 2008, 02:26:24 pm
Jerich we all know you and Lady Solja met up a while ago....We all know what also happened.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Cappy on April 11, 2008, 04:49:22 pm
Weird, after reading this topic yesterday I saw lady solja on IRC. I think she's back?  ???
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ? The search for the Soldat Babe.
Post by: Zamorak on April 11, 2008, 06:25:45 pm
Does anyone remember Sevin. ?
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 11, 2008, 08:17:23 pm
Yeah. That's why I play anyway. The Soldat women.

"She's totally got the hots for xurich."

http://wiki.soldat.nl/User:Murderfly

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WTF XURICH, WTF.  :o
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: xurich on April 11, 2008, 08:21:22 pm
That's how I roll, man.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: ElGato on April 11, 2008, 08:21:52 pm
Does anyone remember Sevin. ?

Yes.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Thinkto urself on April 11, 2008, 08:41:46 pm
This thread wreaks of virgins.
Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: Pie on April 11, 2008, 09:48:28 pm
And this is irrelevant but: Methane depleting the ozone? Goddamn it! You are a fecking idiot.
Yes it is irrelevant, So feck off.
fecking jerk.

What is your problem he is being an idiot, blowing it out of proportion, Yes girls play games, yes they beat guys. What's the point?

So don't start being a douche to me because you hate me, i don't care.

More on the point what he said was indeed considered sexism, even if it was meant in jest, so feck you, Learn what discrimination actually means you idiot.

These forums are starting to get stupid.



Edit: What is indeed the point, you're just stating something most of us already know?
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 12, 2008, 12:34:55 am
Haha, sigh. Again, one of those cases where I should have re-read the first post. Apologies. I take back what I said.
Anyway, if you are someone who wants female Soldat players to be respected then I commend you.

I have to learn to read threads better. >.< :P

--Snow.               



No problem man, you made some very good points.  ;)

Does anyone remember Sevin. ?

Yes.

Care to elaborate more about this Sevin. ? :) ?

Weird, after reading this topic yesterday I saw lady soulja on IRC. I think she's back?  ???

Jerich we all know you and Lady Solja met up a while ago....We all know what also happened.

He cried as Lady Solja finally returned to his arms ?? Tell me, come on !! :'(

Title: Re: Female Soldats, Imagination ?
Post by: BondJamesBond on April 12, 2008, 12:58:09 am
Yes girls play games, yes they beat guys. What's the point?
Edit: What is indeed the point, you're just stating something most of us already know?
Hi, Pie. Next time you try to make a response to me, please actually read what I write. I said the point was that females soldaters deserve more respect.
What I can't accept is that Soldat will continue to be a extremely biased and excessively manly game.

And it's interesting how everytime I respond to you or Mangled* it's always, "uggg you have a grudge, you hate me blehhh". For you, Pie, it's because you just HAVE TO slip in a little "idiot" or "retard" into your argument. So... you know... I just can't resist the foot in mouth opportunity.
You're an idiot.
---
You're sexist, I request you be banned for being stupid. 


More on the point what he said was indeed considered sexism, even if it was meant in jest, so feck you, Learn what discrimination actually means you idiot.
More on the point what he said was indeed not considered sexism. Learn that Lone-Wolf has been trying to deter discrimination all along you silly... rabbit.

P.S. jest? (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jest)
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: ElGato on April 12, 2008, 01:15:51 am
Does anyone remember Sevin. ?

Yes.

Care to elaborate more about this Sevin. ? :) ?

A female player that used to frequent certain public servers, I was new at the time so I don't know if she was REALLY good or if I just REALLY sucked. This was when {A.W.H} was alive, as I seemed to see her in their server mostly.


Jerich we all know you and Lady Solja met up a while ago....We all know what also happened.

He cried as Lady Solja finally returned to his arms ?? Tell me, come on !! :'(

And Rai was implying sex.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: STM1993 on April 12, 2008, 07:59:05 am
Oh, female Soldat players? I do know one, though I don't see her anymore. Her name is Sharon (that's her ingame name), and she's from Thailand. I last played with her long time ago, and she was an amazing player in a DM. I can't remember what weapon she used, but I believe its either the AK or the Ruger (I think its the former - the AK-74). I'm not surprised to see that the general female on the internet can actually play much better than the general male.

Actually that's pretty true in the internet. Females are often given less respect on the internet, so they pretend to be guys when online. At the same time, there are some guys who pretend to be girls so as to gain that kind of respect that girls deserve or whatever the reason.

I personally don't really care whether a person online is a girl or a boy. After all, it is the internet, we will never know whether something is true or false. I'll just take it as it comes; respect each person who at least shows some respect, and oppose those who are being complete idiots.

Of course, in real life I would be a little sensitive when it comes to gender, since my personal view is seeing girls as people who want to be loved, while I see guys as gentlemen who should at least respect the girls. I personally hate it when I see girls treated as objects rather than people or are treated baddly.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Espadon on April 12, 2008, 11:17:29 am
This thread wreaks of virgins.

It's reeks, not wreaks.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 12, 2008, 04:43:48 pm
Only virgins would bother labelling other people as virgins, and are completely missing the point.

This thread is more about sharing your experiences and stories with female soldats, and ultimately I hope it will a paint a realistic picture of Soldat, and maybe one day MM will make changes to this currently extremely biased, excessively manly game, to be more welcoming towards female players.

A new sprite editor for Soldat ? (Customization ?)

It might just welcome more female soldats, and it benefits the Soldat community as a whole. Plus, wouldn't you want a girl in your clan ? ;D

Share your female soldats experiences and show MM the realistic picture of Soldat ! Be the change you want to see in Soldat !  8)
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Flamingo on April 12, 2008, 04:56:39 pm
Like you said somewhere (if not fuck it cba to read) females would act like they're man so they won't get all the attention from perverted people like you, Means they wouldn't really choose female gosteks due to the fact that you wou;d immediatly e-rape them.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 12, 2008, 05:18:15 pm
Like you said somewhere (if not feck it cba to read) females would act like they're man so they won't get all the attention from perverted people like you, Means they wouldn't really choose female gosteks due to the fact that you wou;d immediatly e-rape them.

Dude... I mentioned previously in this thread, that I actually got owned by a female and then she started spouting feminism quotes and humiliated me. The shock woke me up. If they could use female gosteks and PWN trust me, they will be delightfully, sadistically happy. Right now all Soldats sprites are male, they have no choice whatsoever.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Flamingo on April 12, 2008, 05:23:45 pm
Lone-Wolf joins soldatforums; omg i r the best pleyer ever
Lone-Wolf becomes active at soldatforums; i want to be pwned by galz

Date Posted: April 13, 2008, 12:21:16 am
What's next, are you going to say that you're a girl?
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: jerich on April 12, 2008, 05:26:15 pm
Jerich we all know you and Lady Solja met up a while ago....We all know what also happened.

He cried as Lady Solja finally returned to his arms ?? Tell me, come on !! :'(

And Rai was implying sex.

I hate both of you! Rai, please keep my personal life out of the forums damnit.
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: adadqgg on April 12, 2008, 05:54:54 pm
and maybe one day MM will make changes to this currently extremely biased, excessively manly game, to be more welcoming towards female players.
...Im sorry... what???

you want MM to change the soldat that we all love and worship(for what it is) into female friendly game???...like deleting the /pwn command???, or make a pink team???
Title: Re: Female Soldats
Post by: Flamingo on April 12, 2008, 05:59:10 pm
delete the worship part and you have exactly my thoughts
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 12, 2008, 08:03:44 pm

and maybe one day MM will make changes to this currently extremely biased, excessively manly game, to be more welcoming towards female players.
...Im sorry... what???

you want MM to change the soldat that we all love and worship(for what it is) into female friendly game???...like deleting the /pwn command???, or make a pink team???

No, just the sprite settings. Add an option for a female version, for accurate representation of a real war. Soldat means soldier after all, and women should be included. That's all I'm saying.

*First post edited.*


A new sprite editor for Soldat ? (Customization ?)


Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Pie on April 12, 2008, 08:10:46 pm
No, just the sprite settings. Add an option for a female version, for accurate representation of a real war. Soldat means soldier after all, and women should be included. That's all I'm saying.

*First post edited.*


A new sprite editor for Soldat ? (Customization ?)


So the truth comes out.
MM made a comment, I do believe it was along the lines of "Soldat is a game for men, it will not cater for pussies, women ect."
So no, your suggestion most likely wouldn't be taken into account.
I'd also like you to take a look at Demonics signature;
"Whining doesn't deal damaged"

Complaining about how soldat only represents a male bias won't fix that. I'm all for the female gender to play soldat, but i doubt that changing the game to suit them is what drew them to play soldat in the first place.
If i was to make an assumption, i would probably suggest that the females playing soldat play for the blood and the fast paced action, So changing the game to suit them would mean you're changing nothing that would really affect them.

Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 12, 2008, 08:16:29 pm
MM might just consider adding female gosteks, if women out there really really wanted one. Or perhaps someone out there can create a custom-made gostek for females.

Take this girl in this thread, for example.

Quote

My friend wants female gosteks, but when I tried to make them for her, I failed miserably, can someone please help me?

She wants them to be like the soldat characters but well, as women, she wants one with long hair, one with shorter hair, a hat, and a backwards ballcap.

http://soldatmods.edgegaming.com/integramod/viewtopic.php?t=1014
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Hair|Trigger on April 12, 2008, 08:29:41 pm
For christ sake there will be no female gosteks added to soldat.  Females are more than welocme to have pink dreads ect. 
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Espadon on April 12, 2008, 08:32:33 pm
I really can't see 2-pixel big breasts when I'm busy shooting, nading and trying not to be hit while everyone's zipping around with jet packs on their feet. And if you make breasts that noticeable I'm quite sure real female players would rather play as guys and lampoon you over the head for trying to create a sex symbol. It's really sad you're trying to create a sex symbol in Soldat. At least with you 'uber skillz' you should go try a real game like Team Fortress. Holy crap I just realized there aren't any female models in that game either! At least in there secondary sex characteristics will be visible...

It's "etc.," not "ect.," goddammit.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Pie on April 12, 2008, 08:43:21 pm
It's "etc.," not "ect.," goddammit.
Stop nitpicking, MY graMER isnt TWO BaD. DUUUUUUUUURrrrrrrh.

MM might just consider adding female gosteks, if women out there really really wanted one. Or perhaps someone out there can create a custom-made gostek for females.

First of all, the persons friend is female, that doesn't mean the person posting is female, secondly, for the amount of time it would take to get it right, it wouldn't equal out to the amount of people that would use it.

The girls that play soldat, seriously or not, don't play it because some day, MM just might include female gosteks, they play it because it's a hell of a lot of fun, it's fast paced and violent as hell, not to mention free. By adding gosteks that are female, what do you hope to achieve?
It will not make soldat more popular, it will just give the impression that MM has caved in to the amounts of requests for it, after this what next?
Vehicles? Dragonflies? Destructible terrain?
No, yes it would be nice for soldat to remove it's "Manly bias" for some, but without that soldat is not really soldat, it's some twisted, warped pussy version of what soldat once was.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: STM1993 on April 12, 2008, 10:01:10 pm
Female gostek... hmm...

If you say "Implement that into Soldat!", I'll say no. Destroys the feel of Soldat.

If you say "Make a mod of female gosteks", then that's not a bad idea for those who prefer female for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: ElGato on April 12, 2008, 10:45:52 pm
Jerich we all know you and Lady Solja met up a while ago....We all know what also happened.

He cried as Lady Solja finally returned to his arms ?? Tell me, come on !! :'(

And Rai was implying sex.

I hate both of you! Rai, please keep my personal life out of the forums damnit.

I love you. Talk to Lady recently? She hasn't answered my last e-mail, what a bitch.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Seleia on April 12, 2008, 11:35:45 pm
I know of two north american players, a boy and a girl, who have met over soldat and met up and had sex and stuff

n00bface and moose cough

also hey guys I'm supposed to be banned but I decided to come here and post because this thread is full of idiots. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman as long as you can play the game.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - Gostek addition for Soldat ?
Post by: Lapis Lazuli on April 13, 2008, 12:51:59 am
Reading this thread gave me a migraine.

I don't know whether to delete this, lock it, or just move it to the trash or.. what.

Seleia said it well, but I can sum it up for you like so: I don't care what gender the other "character" is, and frankly, they seem rather gender neutral except for a few sound effects. The point is, they're shooting at me half the time, and they need to die, male/female/eunuch or otherwise.

Change the gosteks, make everyone appear female, if that's what you want. Or, look past the avatar of your opponent and realize that the game itself is just a medium for competition and the customization of your avatar are just minor features compared to the game itself. Look at Enemy Territory, for example. There are no female models there, but the game itself is fun and still attracts a lot of female players. Michal doesn't need to "advertise" the game by adding female gosteks, because that isn't what sells the game. The game itself does that already.

I get the feeling that lone-wolf has a serious submissive attitude issue and feels some hidden need to place women on a pedestal above men (almost like some kind of variant of the Oedipus complex).
Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 13, 2008, 01:33:15 am
I know of two north american players, a boy and a girl, who have met over soldat and met up and had sex and stuff

n00bface and moose cough

also hey guys I'm supposed to be banned but I decided to come here and post because this thread is full of idiots. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman as long as you can play the game.


Finally.......... you took the bait.

I knew the stupidity levels in here would attract you. Yes, yes, from the day I saw you own some idiots in the SCTFL forums. It also seems that you truly love Xurich.

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6408/3333333bz1.png) (http://imageshack.us)


Then a few days ago, Xurich replied to the SCTFL11 threads, to my post.

Yeah. That's why I play anyway. The Soldat women.

Soldat Women. What is he talking about ? Does he really have a soldat girl adoring over him !? feck. He meant, that Seleia !? That beats every single achievement of any professional soldat warrior ! It goes against the very core of soldatism !! No way, wait, Seleia is a male !? I had to find out. I had to provoke him somehow. I had to post a thread that exposes the female topic, and naturally, naturally, he would react somehow.

One day after I posted the thread, a change was made in the Soldat Wiki.

(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4568/222222222222ar5.png) (http://imageshack.us)

WTF, an image picture of Seleia was posted !! WTF !? DID XURICH DID THIS HIMSELF ? DID HE PLAN TO POST THIS IN MY THREAD AND SPREAD TO THE WHOLE SOLDAT COMMUNITY THAT HE HAS A HOT SOLDAT BABE ADORING HIM !?

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2967/111111111ll9.png) (http://imageshack.us)


WOULD THAT MEAN THAT SELEIA AND XURICH ARE INDEED THE SAME PERSON ?? XURICH USED SELEIA'S IDENTITY
TO PUNISH AND TORMENT NOOBS, AND YET ACT AS THE NOBLE SCTFL STAFF !!??
AND SELEIA WAS ALSO USED TO BOOST HIS OWN MANLY IMAGE AND IMPLANT JEALOUSLY AMONG ALL
OTHER SOLDAT MALES !?

SELEIA = XURICH !!!

Yeah. That's why I play anyway. The Soldat women.

"She's totally got the hots for xurich."

http://wiki.soldat.nl/User:Murderfly

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WTF XURICH, WTF.  :o

That's how I roll, man.

Xurich, xurich, xurichhhhh. Did you actually go to such lengths to create your own imaginary Soldat female !?
Or is she real ? I fear the worst.

Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Pie on April 13, 2008, 02:31:39 am
^ You're a tool, this is why i can't discuss it reasonably with you.

Lock this pile of garbage.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 13, 2008, 02:44:58 am
These images are too huge. They're breaking the forum formatting. - Lapis Lazuli


Why was it changed immediately after my post ? Does that mean that I am correct ?

I hope I am wrong, and that a girl like that truly exists.
Delete this thread if you must, admins, I've satisfied my own curiosity....
Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Pie on April 13, 2008, 02:50:25 am
So the entire point of this thread was to find out if this particular person existed, You really are a douche.

Lock this.
Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Lone-Wolf on April 13, 2008, 03:00:30 am
I really hate to explain out everything for you so that you're able to understand it, Pie.
From the title alone, anyone with half a brain would've understood.

So prone to simplifying everything according to your ideals, and rushing to throw insults,
that you completely miss what's in front of you. I have been patient for the last 10 posts
of you insulting me, as I really didn't want to feck with someone who's already brain-fecked.

Read it again and you might come closer to what the post is actually about.

HINT: SOLDAT WIKI UPDATE TIMES ARE FROM THE SAME IP ADDRESS. SAME PERSON FOR TWO DIFFERENT PROFILES.

Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Pie on April 13, 2008, 03:07:54 am
I really hate to explain out everything for you so that you're able to understand it, Pie.
From the title alone, anyone with half a brain would've understood.

So prone to simplifying everything according to your ideals, and rushing to throw insults,
that you completely miss what's in front of you. I have been patient for the last 10 posts
of you insulting me, as I really didn't want to feck with someone who's already brain-fecked.

Read it again and you might come closer to what the post is actually about.
I find it funny that in the whole 7 posts in this thread, that not all of them are insulting.
You are an idiot, me denying it would be ignorant of me. You started an entire thread just to almost publicly humiliate someone in the disguise of arguing about soldat's "Morals".

All of which could of been done via PM. It begs to ask why would you do that, what is the point?
You're an idiot, you've explained nothing stop acting like a dick and i won't treat you like one, knobhead.

Edit:
Question to anyone reading this.

Do you actually care about any of this?



LOCK MEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Female Soldats - The Xurich Conspiracy
Post by: Lapis Lazuli on April 13, 2008, 03:12:10 am
This topic has been locked, because it seems to be degrading into little more than..  garbage.

Lone-Wolf, Pie: I'm not going to issue a formal warning to either of you, but I hope the two of you can learn to be more mature with your posting privelages here. I don't come to these forums to look at the kind of bollocks you find on livejournal. srsly.

Edit: Also, just as a public reminder to everyone, avoiding or circumventing the swear filter by altering your fancy swear words is against the rules. Keep your posts clean or don't put them here at all.