Official Soldat Forums

Soldat Interface Mods & Mod Making => Modding Ideas / General Discussions => Topic started by: Hair|Trigger on May 02, 2008, 07:34:11 am

Title: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 02, 2008, 07:34:11 am
Sorry about this.  Stupid forum's screwed up when I was editing my post and totally fecked up all my text, and now..  I've lost images????!!    /BRESERK
Thread conduct
Copy and past the images shown below into MS Paint or Paint.NET, GIMP, Photoshop, or any image editing program you wish to use, and colour them in, and shade them, to make guns of you own.  You can shade/colour them however you like.  It's not a contest.  Don't steal other peoples creations for use in a mod of your own, that's cheating ;]  I will upload them at the bottom of the post as they are completed.  You can SLIGHTLY modify/change the outline to your liking, and you can pretty much do whatever you want to any lines that are in the centre of the gun.  This thread can be used for all discussion of your created weapons, and for techinques, ideas, and all stuff related to weapon skins.  (Please keep mod dicsussion to a minimum)  Hope you learn and compete fairly.  Remember you can add your own outlines to the list if you want.


(http://i26.tinypic.com/11rwva0.png)

(http://i26.tinypic.com/29c102h.png)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/oku3v4.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2mrh1js.png)

Special thanks to Magus86 for providing these
(http://i32.tinypic.com/xc82zp.png)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/fyztw6.png)

Colt + Slencer by TbC, thanks mate! ;)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2mq7xb6.png)

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2vn5q87.png)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/5vbp13.png)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2rcl8pw.png) *Updated* \/ \/ \/
(http://i25.tinypic.com/33122cz.png)

(http://i26.tinypic.com/2dvrebo.png)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/9iwww8.png)

(http://i32.tinypic.com/2a8ruqe.png)

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2q8ovmv.png)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/sdml3d.png) Shotty's by Zombie

(http://i27.tinypic.com/hs9ijt.png) By Skykanden

(http://i27.tinypic.com/23hkhg3.png) MP5 by Exodus, I like it thanks :3

HK's Alpha Doom weapons
(http://i25.tinypic.com/x4jkpc.png)

(http://i26.tinypic.com/25p340i.png)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2ql7ech.png)

More from Exodus...
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2iudczp.png)

Have fun!!


Completed Weapons

Some Badass Gun
(By Rai-Dei)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2431cas.png)

Spas-12
(By gladiator2)
(http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/Gladiator2marines/untitled-3.jpg)

Barrett
(By Exodus)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/63sun8.png)

Pump-action shotty
(By -Zombie-)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2q1rn5x.png)

M16+Bayonett
(By me)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2u70ggn.png)

Remington semi-auto (?)
(By -Zombie-)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2woydrl.png)

WA-2000
(By me   [retard])
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2ywicjs.png)

Some sort of SMG
(By -Skykanden-)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/k99dfo.png)

M-14
(by felipegoes)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2z3nama.png)

Chainsaw #1
(By mozzer)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/nlbjg9.png)

Chainsaw #2
(By me)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2wolumq.png)

Desert Eagle(s)
(By me)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/mttc2o.png)

(By Mangled*)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2lvipw7.png)

M16
(By Magus86)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/vhbvxg.png)

Colt1911
(By TbC)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/16gaohv.png)

G3
(By TbC)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/e68514.png)

(By Dairy)
(http://i31.tinypic.com/14icqph.png)

AK-47
(By TbC)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2dad1cz.png)

(By BlackDevil)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/516k4z.png)

(By Dairy)
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2e153es.png)

Magus86's weaponset
(By Magus86)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2iurjme.png)

M4
(By me)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/a3fsew.png)

Colt .45
(By The Trooper [GN`R])
(http://i27.tinypic.com/11298g0.png)

Random Pistol
(By Mangled*)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/fyzfrm.png)

Note: You are still allowed to do the completed weapons!

Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on May 02, 2008, 07:56:03 am
Oh... you could put any other better :P First of all because barrett is not so tall from the body, at least not enough

I'll give a try
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Bone Collector on May 02, 2008, 11:19:45 am
I have to agree... you need to provide better outlines for your weapons (but the spas-23 was good).
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Mangled* on May 02, 2008, 02:22:28 pm
They are too small... if we're all going to be comparing eachothers they need to be bigger so that we can actually put detail into them otherwise they'll end up all looking similar.

The pistol is fine... but the ones below it are tiny!

Date Posted: May 02, 2008, 03:04:21 pm
I did the pistol... made kind of a colt1911 styled pistol from it.

Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 02, 2008, 06:57:49 pm
okay nice job Mangled!.¬  I will try make some more bigger ones ;)¬  smaller ones I still think will be welcome amongst newcommers to modding.

If you would like to have a go at the Spas again, here is a slightly improved version:

(http://i29.tinypic.com/oku3v4.png)

If you arent happy guys.. just post an outline of your own ;)

Date Posted: May 02, 2008, 07:15:14 pm
btw: Mangled*,  Merry christmas

(http://i30.tinypic.com/2ytuwyx.png)

you don't have to use it I think it looks better with white background.  ..

Date Posted: May 02, 2008, 07:26:15 pm
Made another gun.. Larger Deser Eagle ;)   

(http://i26.tinypic.com/29c102h.png)

Please have a go!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Mangled* on May 03, 2008, 11:51:21 pm
What does my avatar have to do with this topic?  ???

Nice Desert Eagle outline, I'll do that later.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 04, 2008, 02:09:52 am
Come on guys!  Sky, boney, BD, You know you want to do it :) 

Date Posted: May 04, 2008, 02:36:31 am
Here is my first attempt at an M4 outline.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2mrh1js.png)

If you like it please give it a go at colouring :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on May 04, 2008, 03:16:56 am
Ok, i'm going to make the Barrett.

I could modify a bit the outline?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 04, 2008, 03:23:19 am
Yes you can change the outline if you want.  So long as it's still the same gun. 
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: porta on May 04, 2008, 04:17:21 am
Here i made a m4 sniper.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 04, 2008, 04:37:05 am
Cool, I like the idea of your addons.  try shading it now, or I won't have much reason to submit in the first post.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: porta on May 04, 2008, 05:01:04 am
I am waiting for a pallete so i can shade it.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on May 04, 2008, 08:09:57 am
You need a pallete?
Why you don't use paint's one?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on May 04, 2008, 01:28:35 pm
I am waiting for a pallete so i can shade it.

...Make your own?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 08, 2008, 01:47:57 am
Meh.  I thought this would just take off... guess not :(
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Bone Collector on May 08, 2008, 02:38:51 am
Don't worry dude... I'll try some later on :D
Didn't realise my modding was actually sought after xD
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on May 08, 2008, 02:36:06 pm
Didn't realise my modding was actually sought after xD

What the hell are you talking about.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on May 08, 2008, 08:58:49 pm
Okay, here's the latest. I like the guns the way they are. I don't feel like messing with them anymore... Since some of you like my Gostek and my outlines, how about... if anybody out there wants to use them, shade the guns, and make your own mod with my weapon outlines, go ahead. I give permission to anybody.

You heard the man. Round 2 starts now. We've got an entire weapon set, we could practically make a whole mod of this.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 08, 2008, 09:16:29 pm
Ok ill put them in the first post when i get home from school :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 08, 2008, 10:24:47 pm
LOL, my mod is now a contest... I like it...
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 09, 2008, 01:08:12 am
Okay, here are Magus's outlines.  I like them quite a lot thanks man!

(http://i32.tinypic.com/xc82zp.png)

Remember.. Add anything you want to the gun (scope, magazine etc) Please make only fairly small changes only.  Modify whatever you want inside the gun outline (like black patches) And enjoy!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Trooper [GN`R] on May 09, 2008, 03:57:39 pm
Tried the pistol so far
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2rxe635.jpg)

(http://s3.tinypic.com/152exw6.jpg)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 09, 2008, 05:39:36 pm
Thank you!  And I like it good work on the pistol
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 10, 2008, 01:33:56 am
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/weaponshade.png)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Bone Collector on May 10, 2008, 02:20:46 am
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7043/67972467ax1.png)
Here ya go :D
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 10, 2008, 02:44:20 am
Whoa....

See it ain't so hard is it xD

Date Posted: May 10, 2008, 03:40:56 am
But... Magus, can you pls do one at a time in the future, maybe put more detail into a single one because the outcome will be much better and I won't have to upload so many images!!¬  :(¬  ¬  It's better to have one fully texturized gun than 10 single colour ones :)

And for that reason (and because I just don't have time) I'm not gonna put ALL of them in the first post just the ones that are worth-it.  sorry
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Bone Collector on May 10, 2008, 02:47:42 am
OMFG: (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6860/61492912ur0.png)

Heres a proper colt for you as well:
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4818/colt1911a2vz1.png)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 10, 2008, 03:11:34 am
Thank you TBC
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 10, 2008, 10:25:19 am
I figured since I shaded them all last night, I'd upload them all at once. And uh... what's wrong with the GL-06 and RPD?

And honestly, I don't see what else I can do to make the guns look better. When I look at most interface pictures, they look like randomly placed pixels of a similar color. There seems to be no reason behind it. Now I could do that, but then I'd have to get rid of the details I added.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Bone Collector on May 10, 2008, 10:27:02 am
If you notice, they all look so much more detailed. More colour and more detail.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on May 10, 2008, 01:48:44 pm
they look like randomly placed pixels of a similar color. There seems to be no reason behind it.

It's called dithering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither#Digital_photography_and_image_processing).
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: blackdevil0742 on May 10, 2008, 03:25:40 pm
here ;)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 10, 2008, 05:23:38 pm
I figured since I shaded them all last night, I'd upload them all at once. And uh... what's wrong with the GL-06 and RPD?

And honestly, I don't see what else I can do to make the guns look better. When I look at most interface pictures, they look like randomly placed pixels of a similar color. There seems to be no reason behind it. Now I could do that, but then I'd have to get rid of the details I added.

I removed a couple of the weapons because they were taking up a lot of room, I removed the GL-06 because I did not like the shape, it waas too simple, and the RPD because it was just as plain as all the others, I would've removed more because the shading was all the same but I let it go in the end because I couldn't be bothered.  Please understand that I don't want them all to look the same.  Besides it's your mod, and I don't really want full on Mods being presented..

DB it looks a little strange, I'll upload it anyway, but try enhancing the 3d effect a little next time ;)   (Simple, darker shades at the bottom, yours are very hard to spot)

Date Posted: May 10, 2008, 06:07:48 pm
New weapons!

Chainsaw
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2rcl8pw.png)

And a couple of sniper rifles I've been working on.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2vn5q87.png)
(http://i25.tinypic.com/5vbp13.png)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 10, 2008, 08:53:05 pm
they look like randomly placed pixels of a similar color. There seems to be no reason behind it.

It's called dithering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither#Digital_photography_and_image_processing).

Well, I think the dithering makes them look like crappy jpegs.

It only makes sense to me that they'd be shaded the same way. Did you want like the AK to look like a picture was taken in the dark, and then the AKSU to look like it was lit by the sun from 2 feet away? looking for different light angles, what? And why does it really matter?

Also, while you might not want an entire mod, you did say you wanted the guns to be shaded, so I took a stab at shading them.

As far as the shape of my GL-06 is concerned, here's a pic of the original... http://www.world.guns.ru/grenade/gl06-1.jpg

What exactly have I missed??

It has... a UMP stock, a pistol grip, a long tube, and a vertical foregrip.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 10, 2008, 09:29:57 pm
Your GL-06 had a very simple design I think you could've done better.   And it only has like 3 shades...
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 10, 2008, 09:42:29 pm
But they all only have 3 or 4 shades... And they're pretty small pictures anyway, especially the GL-06. Plus, the real gun's design is very simple... What, did you want me to put optical crap on it or something?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 11, 2008, 01:29:53 am
Well I'm sorry if it offends you in any way I'm still not gonna change my image, it's good and done.  What are you trying to prove by arguing me anyway?  What does it really matter to you?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 11, 2008, 02:17:11 am
I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just trying to understand exactly what you think is wrong with it because I'm not seeing anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 11, 2008, 03:05:35 am
Sorry.  I can understand your curiosity now.  I told you: All the weapons looked a lot similar in terms of shading so I diddn't bother with them all.

I'd prefer you just put it this way:  What's done is done that's life. 

Now if you don't mind I'd like to stay on topic :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: porta on May 11, 2008, 03:16:29 am
I shaded it. ;D
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 11, 2008, 03:24:13 am
porta, I can't see any shading on it.  Please try again, properly ;)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: The Bone Collector on May 11, 2008, 08:41:48 am
Heres a mod of my colt... for all to see :)

Golden Colt 1911s from the movie "Face/Off". I know they look like crap, but who cares. (Not me)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Dairy on May 11, 2008, 09:27:53 am
AK-47
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9799/weaponsmenuer9.png)
And with PNG support.
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2522/weaponsmenu1sa7.png)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 11, 2008, 10:44:42 am
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/M4.png)
FIXED
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Dairy on May 11, 2008, 11:46:35 am
G3A3
(http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2492/sugartitsxy4.png)
And with PNG support
(http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9104/sugartitshj3.png)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on May 11, 2008, 01:58:44 pm
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/M4.png)

Single pixel-width barrels are kind of a no-no. You want at least 2 pixels, [usually 3] so that the weapon shows up well in both light and dark maps.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on May 11, 2008, 02:50:22 pm
Well, I think the dithering makes them look like crappy jpegs.

It's also sometimes an attempt at making a texture (switching up the light and dark colors so that the surface won't appear completely flat) Light isn't going to hit the entire gun at the exact same angle, it will be blocked by ruts in the gun.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 12, 2008, 02:49:58 am
Okay we're on a roll today.  If only somebody shaded my Desert Eagle I'd be happy :)

Very nice G3A3 Dairy! 

Magus, Make barrel thicker and I'll use it.  Nice outline so far!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 14, 2008, 12:47:32 am
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/M4shaded.png)

--M-16--

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/M16A2.png)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/M16A2shaded.png)

--M14--

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/m14.png)

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Magus86/m14shaded.png)


hmmm... Rogue Spear mod..........
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 14, 2008, 01:31:28 am
Thanks man.

If you want my advice, do at least something with the front grip and the magazine.  I dunno about the middle bit at this stage, I'll upload it but if you fix that I will replace ;)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 14, 2008, 02:01:57 am
There, I think I fixed it. How's that?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 14, 2008, 02:15:13 am
First of all, you don't have to do this if you DON'T WANT TO.¬  If you cant take it that I don't like your weapon and/or I don't want to upload it, you have every right to feck off.

Second, It still doesn't look much different I will not upload it.

Finally, i already have that other outline you posted, and I'm not uploading it because you haven't made a real effort.

You have a lot of potential in my opinion, try bring it out.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 14, 2008, 02:21:13 am
I know I don't have to do this, but in an effort to possibly learn something, I thought I'd try making some more weapons... perhaps if you were more specific instead of saying "i don't like your middle." Why not? What's wrong with my foregrip and magazine? If you don't like what I've done, what SHOULD I do? If all I'm told is that I'm doing something wrong but not what it is, how the hell am I gonna figure out how to change? Whatever you say, if anything, don't say dithering because that makes them look worse.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 14, 2008, 02:26:01 am
Alright.  Look up a pic of an M4.  Put the details of the pic inside your gun.  I'm not telling what they are because you have to do it.  It takes a while to get some small things right, so only put essentials.  There is a rule I follow with my modding,  If you can't put in a small detail, just make the rest of the weapon "feel" like it's got that detail.  Go play  around with your guns a bit.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Mangled* on May 14, 2008, 07:54:44 pm
Okay we're on a roll today.  If only somebody shaded my Desert Eagle I'd be happy :)

 :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on May 14, 2008, 09:12:18 pm
Oh geeze AA those grips and b00st up the contrast on that metal texture you got some jizzing nice deagles! Pity they're so damn HUGE!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 15, 2008, 03:51:03 am
They don't have to be for in-game use, they are purely recreational. 

And mangled, fkin nice job they look sweet!

Date Posted: May 15, 2008, 01:21:28 am
Btw mang, you have a silver and gold version, how do you convert the silver into gold?  Is there a feature like that in photoshop or what?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on May 15, 2008, 02:33:02 pm
Newer Photoshop versions will actually saturate monochrome. Or you can use overlay and paint over with yellow to saturate. Or the easier way is to start with a golden deagle and desaturate to make silver.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Boots on May 15, 2008, 04:22:12 pm
Yesh, PS Rools.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on May 17, 2008, 10:11:10 pm
bah! Screw photoshop. I don't need it.

MS Paint Forever!!!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on May 18, 2008, 12:48:12 am
I don't see why you'd use PS for doing soldat guns.  I've tried: MS Paint, Paint.NET, and Photoshop, and I have to say Paint.NET is far better than the others in terms of making gun interfaces for soldat.  It's got easy acces to any shade of any colour of any level of transperancy all in the same toolbox.  Photoshop is more of a full-on graphics/photo editing thing.  Hence the name Photoshop.  MS Paint is good for making quick outlines (not with shading) saving screenshots, most of your copy'n'past needs, and definately for converting images.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on June 02, 2008, 11:23:31 am
well, whatever then... sorry for reviving your thread....i guess i'll just stay away.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on June 02, 2008, 11:28:49 am
I don't like that magazine in M16's and AKs
USP is quite good

But i think that the topic is about post the outline and let someone make it, not making full weapons
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Magus86 on June 02, 2008, 11:44:38 am
Actually it's about shading outlines already made. But since I have more than just an outline due to the fact that most of these have been/are being used in mods, I figured I'd post the full version. Then you get an outline, and my completed work... by the way,what's wrong with my magazines? I'm not offended by the fact that you don't like them; I just want to know what you think is wrong with them. shape? color? details? what?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on June 02, 2008, 01:36:32 pm
The wrong thing on your magazines is the shape, try to take more images for bases

Soon i'll post some outline
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 03, 2008, 12:57:52 am
Guys, no.   If you would like to use an outline you have to show it to me first, then if I accept it you may then shade it. 

Magus, stop posting all the weapons you make please, they are out of YOUR mod, not MY thread.  I will make more outlines myself if I have to.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 03, 2008, 10:01:23 am
THat's my outline  ???
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 03, 2008, 12:26:23 pm
You missed the point -- he's saying this is his thread.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 03, 2008, 01:15:47 pm
Yeah, I'm not trying to thread-jack. I thought you got an outline, and you posted it up, so people can shade it  [retard]
Meh, I took the att. off for now   :-\
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 06, 2008, 08:42:53 pm
Well yeah, I was more trying to say this isn't a dumping ground to show off your guns but yeah that works too :)

Guys you can still post completed weapons if you want.  Still you should keep it clean :P

oh and ignore the thing I wrote in the first post I diddnt think anyone would see it xD xD
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Henito Kisou on June 07, 2008, 05:52:09 am
Quote
And, at any time, feel free to post your own outline for others to try!
I planned use this in NN but probably include later in some Hitman mod. Cant be smaller due to details and shape to be closest as possible in original, but in this topic size is not that important.

Another reason of size is that I extremely dislike 1-2 black pixels parts and use them only as ultimate when cant be avoid...

If custom/hellish/strange/futuristic weapons are allowed too, second outline is attached, feel free to find best looking color scheme.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 07, 2008, 08:21:36 am
mmh, shame your wa2000 is better than mine  :'(
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 07, 2008, 08:29:27 am
Not necessarily. I'm very much a fan of your 'lack of internal outline' approach since it's how I do it too. Oftentimes 'internal outlines' are extraneous and discourage use of tonal values to create detail [instead enforcing a reliance on outlines alone] which is a problem too often seen in pixel art here.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 07, 2008, 08:36:27 am
Not necessarily. I'm very much a fan of your 'lack of internal outline' approach since it's how I do it too. Oftentimes 'internal outlines' are extraneous and discourage use of tonal values to create detail [instead enforcing a reliance on outlines alone] which is a problem too often seen in pixel art here.
Ooh thank you, means a lot coming from you ;D
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Henito Kisou on June 07, 2008, 09:19:01 am
Pay attention that is old weapon and not my actual way to do outlines and details, just old model example.

Today I using mixed techniques as something closer to texture because darker-lighter limited number of similiar pixels of color not always should work as intended to be. Internal "skeletal" outline isnt perfect also, because sometimes fakes and deform, oversize weapons, but I show my new style in next mod (not update, something new), now I just using temporary portions of "old" to slowly convert old stuff and get old ideas in new way - but not  waste basics and knowledge.

Probably from my old style ~70% is modified in modern way, learning pixelart from scratch is useless in my situation, I cant just show everyone suddenly new style when old still not died, it takes some time.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 07, 2008, 10:05:18 am
because sometimes fakes and deform, oversize weapons

Exactly, HK. Occasionally panels and internal outlines start competing for space... It works sometimes on big slabsided guns, but generally you can't afford it with smaller weapons.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: mozzer on June 07, 2008, 10:55:18 am
I saw this thread and just had to try :D
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 08, 2008, 02:17:21 am
Thank you for your contibution guys.  *sigh* here I go to upload them all :) 

I will be adding an updated outline of the chainsaw, that I seem to have dropped out of my mod for some reason :/
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 08, 2008, 03:29:04 am
My coloured Wa2000
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Henito Kisou on June 09, 2008, 02:18:53 pm
New outline, something between Alpha Doom's Machinegun and MP-40.

Also some "experiment" with shading, the legend:
O - outline
T - plain, but not completely flat texture with 3 different materials (various scheme of concavities.
S - shading added to texture (with all original scheme of materials)
F - finished, outlined weapon.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 09, 2008, 02:22:44 pm
Your T-stage was the best in my opinion. The "shading" overlay you did ruined it because it's just a darker gradient. T could have just been placed into the outline and perhaps contrast-adjusted to be a bit more vivid and that would have been fine.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 21, 2008, 05:23:33 am
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2a8ruqe.png)

Just to keep this thread alive a bit :/

Again, discarded scraps from my "Mod"  :P
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 21, 2008, 05:38:00 am
Ooh, I'll help with an mp5 outline  [pigtail]
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on June 21, 2008, 06:10:13 am
I have shaded your Mp5 Trig, but i fixed it :P
I think that now looks like a UMP

I have 2 guns, M16 and M14, time ago i started a Vietnam mod, if someone wants some of those guns just pm me i won't release it

Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: felipegoes on June 21, 2008, 02:26:38 pm
Hm... Outlines, my major problem, i can't outline very well...
BTW: Sky's M-14
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on June 21, 2008, 02:46:32 pm
The main body looks like it's been filled with a gradient tool :P
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: felipegoes on June 21, 2008, 04:13:11 pm
The main body looks like it's been filled with a gradient tool :P

Nope, no gradient tool in MS Paint :D i used a pallete that i found on my images folder, i just used the line tool, does it looks that bad?
EDIT: Is It just me or the image now looks with no shading?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on June 21, 2008, 04:38:36 pm
Well, adding so much gradient is bad, make it with lights and shadows and take base pics
also work on the details
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: felipegoes on June 21, 2008, 05:09:03 pm
How Lights and Shadows?
BTW: i use base pics, details, eh? like a visiblem bolt or visible sights? Lights and shadows, like the bottow of the weapon darkened and the top brightened?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 21, 2008, 07:03:47 pm
Well I will add that one when its imporved a bit.¬  felip

Thanks sky.¬  I dont want too many similar weapons so Ill just add your M16..¬  (lol theyre both the same image file so thats okay) And the 'UMP' looks real nice :P¬  thanx for fixing it a little.¬ 

felipegoes, you should add like a bolt to it, maybe add a camo net, anything to make it look a little more 'Complicated'.

If I were you I would move the bright bit on the buttstock down a bit, then shaping it to the shape of the stock, so it doesnt look like a pipe cut out or something.¬  Then add some basic texture to it, like little bits of dirt and stuff but not too noticeable.¬  Dont limit yourself to a couple of colours from your pallete, I usually use different variants of shades, and sometimes I just draw on it randomly with a pencil just to make it look alright.¬  Try Gimp or Paint.NET if you want to take it to the next level :)

Date Posted: June 21, 2008, 07:38:07 am
FFS guys does anyone know of an EASIER way to upload these people outlines???

I'm getting pretty anoyed :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 21, 2008, 07:17:19 pm
Photobucket? What's annoying you?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 21, 2008, 07:40:02 pm
no,  It's that I need to save it, and upload it.  And takes too long, I need an application that magically upoads images straight off the net or something?

And Photobucket takes longer :Z
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 21, 2008, 07:57:09 pm
...You Australians never cease to astound me.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 21, 2008, 08:31:35 pm
You do it then
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Boots on June 21, 2008, 10:06:41 pm
...You Australians never cease to astound me.
Oi, :(
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 22, 2008, 08:27:00 am
...You Australians never cease to astound me.
Oi, :(

You tell your fellow men why I feel the way I do, okay? Thanks. You're one of the very few Australians than can understand me. :(
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on June 22, 2008, 12:51:38 pm
no,  It's that I need to save it, and upload it.  And takes too long, I need an application that magically upoads images straight off the net or something?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: felipegoes on June 22, 2008, 01:49:20 pm
Now I Made A Better One, Used a new pallete, with darker colors, i'm now trying to add a bolt that doesn't looks stupid
V3 is just a shaped bright, i'm looking for a better pic so i can see the bolt
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Boots on June 22, 2008, 08:45:31 pm
...You Australians never cease to astound me.
Oi, :(

You tell your fellow men why I feel the way I do, okay? Thanks. You're one of the very few Australians than can understand me. :(
Stop now while you can esp, your starting to sound like an australian yourself! D:
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 23, 2008, 01:08:34 am
Nobody touch the subject of Esp vs. Australia again.  plz :)

Frunkamunch is a dumbass

and.. felip that gun looks much nicer now. I'll upload it :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: felipegoes on June 23, 2008, 08:28:39 am
Thanks Trig,
BTW: I think v3 is better than v2
i'll give you my glock 17 outline
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on June 23, 2008, 10:04:52 am
I really like it, looks better.

Offtopic: Trigger, you should show us some mod, some of those days, really
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 24, 2008, 12:48:05 am
You wanna see my crappy ugleh unfinished scribbeled over lost-interest-inmaking mod?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Skykanden- on June 24, 2008, 08:14:18 am
So... you won't considerate yourself a modder, right?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 28, 2008, 11:20:53 pm
Nah.

I havent released any mods due to lack of dedication ;_;

But you've seen some of my work before.. 

Date Posted: June 24, 2008, 09:53:17 am
Crap..

all I did was change the Current notifications thing, added a link, and then WTF?  THE WHOLE THING IS SCREWED UP??

>:(

Date Posted: June 24, 2008, 02:34:02 pm
lmfao.  I kinda copied Mangled's style and made the desert eagle.  ;)

(http://i26.tinypic.com/mttc2o.png)

I used some elements form the deagle in my sig to make it. 

What do you's think? :D
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Boots on June 29, 2008, 04:19:00 am
Lets just say the deagle in your sig, is well... Horrible :|

And that one thar, is fucking huge.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 29, 2008, 05:08:06 am
They don't have to be for in-game use, they are purely recreational.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Zombie- on June 29, 2008, 06:24:08 am
OK, I just made a semi-automatic shotgun. I've uploaded the outline as well. By the way this is my second attempt to draw a gun :P. Hope you like it.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 29, 2008, 07:12:14 am
(http://i26.tinypic.com/mttc2o.png)

You're still a long ways off from Mangy. Keep practicing.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: felipegoes on June 29, 2008, 12:13:00 pm
How About some New Outlines?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Boots on June 29, 2008, 04:46:39 pm
They don't have to be for in-game use, they are purely recreational.
What's the point if this agian? OH right... If you have no life, let's waste time!
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 29, 2008, 05:00:41 pm
They don't have to be for in-game use, they are purely recreational.
What's the point if this agian? OH right... If you have no life, let's waste time!

Getting out of hand. It's just a game, Bootz. It's easy to get competitive with modding but I've realized it's no good being too serious about this stuff.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 29, 2008, 06:14:07 pm
Zombie thats good ill add it.

Ill also add in the outlines I lost due to a copy and paste error, so there will be more outlines again :E

(http://i26.tinypic.com/mttc2o.png)

You're still a long ways off from Mangy. Keep practicing.

Does it compete with mangled's one?  or do you mean I have to make a mod better than SE in order to conquer soldatforums?
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 29, 2008, 08:21:21 pm
or do you mean I have to make a mod better than SE in order to conquer soldatforums?

That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It just means you're going to be one of those guys that "tries too hard."

Frankly, no, it doesn't compete right now. Just keep working on it and try to develop your own style. We don't need a bunch of subpar SE copies.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Boots on June 29, 2008, 08:35:21 pm
or do you mean I have to make a mod better than SE in order to conquer soldatforums?

That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. It just means you're going to be one of those guys that "tries too hard."

Frankly, no, it doesn't compete right now. Just keep working on it and try to develop your own style. We don't need a bunch of subpar SE copies.
God no, don't go into the whole Bone collecter concept..
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 29, 2008, 09:13:12 pm
Alright..  No moar copying styles :(
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Zombie- on June 29, 2008, 09:14:52 pm
Alright.. No moar copying styles :(
just get their permission before you copy ;)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Lord Frunkamunch on June 29, 2008, 09:23:41 pm
Because he has that style copyrighted and a team of trained attack lawyers ready to use the images in court as proof against you.

Seriously, think of all the money he loses when someone makes a gun similar to his.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 29, 2008, 09:59:14 pm
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2hyuq6q.png)

I tried to add a bayonett..  meh
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: -Zombie- on June 29, 2008, 10:29:42 pm
OK, another shotgun. Actually made this one yesterday but didn't have time to upload it. This is my first attempt to draw a gun. It's a pump action shotgun... Comes with outline. ;)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on June 29, 2008, 11:18:26 pm
uh..  Thanks.

But, please dont spam too many similar looking weapons.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on June 30, 2008, 08:13:23 am
Alright.. No moar copying styles :(
just get their permission before you copy ;)

It means you're weak that you have to rely on a ruleset that someone else put down. There's nothing technically wrong with copying, but copycats always are a step behind the creators, and you aren't going to stand out if you're a step behind. Just my opinion.

HT, metal doesn't equal white.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on July 01, 2008, 04:56:12 am
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2u70ggn.png)

Date Posted: June 30, 2008, 01:14:31 pm
Aaaaaannd..

(http://i32.tinypic.com/2wolumq.png)

Re-shaded it based on my older design.. that got ditched :E
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on July 01, 2008, 10:22:43 am
Loving the chainsaw  ;D
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Henito Kisou on July 01, 2008, 11:15:34 am
This time... Alpha Doom Weapons! Outlined directly to the shape. See reference pic for original names and how they may looks.

No v0.5 weapons because they are just resized from v0.4.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on July 01, 2008, 07:21:37 pm
omf..  Thats amazing...  I'll add the outlines!  And thanks for the tutorial:D  they look fuckin' awesome

Date Posted: July 01, 2008, 08:01:44 am
Loving the chainsaw ;D

Thanks/ nice to get some anti-Espadon crit ;)

Date Posted: July 01, 2008, 08:09:52 am
Did the razor claw thing.  as if it were frozen in ice :P

(http://i30.tinypic.com/68cx0z.png)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Espadon on July 01, 2008, 09:36:49 pm
Loving the chainsaw  ;D

Agreed. Bayonet looks a bit wonky still, but ho-hum.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Exodus on July 02, 2008, 10:38:11 am
Barrett Re-skin
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Henito Kisou on July 02, 2008, 11:27:27 am
Some of my old work, still Doom themed, but this time like final game.

Third weapon... in theory, empty shape looks stupid but with good shading and details could be better ::)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on July 03, 2008, 12:13:14 am
Uploading.. :)
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: gladiator2 on February 13, 2009, 10:47:19 am
Here's the SPAS:

(http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/Gladiator2marines/untitled-3.jpg)

I added some shells to the stock.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on February 13, 2009, 06:37:29 pm
bah, this is like a year old.  Ah well.

added.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Henito Kisou on February 13, 2009, 08:20:32 pm
There's 2 reasons why I posting them:

1 - They are newbie-friendly.
2 - I want see more variations of these.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Hair|Trigger on February 14, 2009, 02:00:22 am
I'll select a few and add them in, if I added them all it would like double the size of the current list.
Title: Re: Shade the outline! 2
Post by: Rai-Dei on February 14, 2009, 02:27:10 pm
Badass color gun.