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Title: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: Anna on June 09, 2006, 03:40:12 pm
[EDIT] Keron Cyst has waypointed ctf_Oracle, and I fixed some minor poly bugs on the platforms. ctf_Oracle 1.1 (http://individual.utoronto.ca/caek/ctf_Oracle1.1.PMS)  [/EDIT]

I've had the concept for this map in my head for over a year and I finally got inspired enough to sit down and create it :] The stone texture came from one of Avarax's maps and I think the other one is from chakapoko maker's texture pack. I used 3 of Serial Killer's custom sceneries, the rest should all be default.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Anna_Z/ctf_oracle.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Anna_Z/oracle01.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Anna_Z/oracle02.jpg)

Download (http://individual.utoronto.ca/caek/ctf_oracle.zip)


Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Wraithlike on June 09, 2006, 03:42:15 pm
Wow, this map is amazing, especially the texture work.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Flying Dutchman on June 09, 2006, 04:22:42 pm
Awesome! This map looks really cool. The gameplay as well the looks both seem to be good. The multitexturing and coloring/shadowing is done really well. Good job.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: peemonkey on June 09, 2006, 04:34:20 pm
Just tried it out, it's very damn nice, there's all sorts of places to hide, but bot support would make this hella more fun for people who like just a quick play in between things without the hazards of online play.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Smegma on June 09, 2006, 05:12:02 pm
Truly amazing. Especially with all the different textures, it pleases the eye.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: y0da on June 09, 2006, 05:21:37 pm
Yes, I like the gfx, but who will play on these custom maps? ;s
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Mistercharles on June 09, 2006, 05:26:51 pm
YES! Looks bootiful. I like the brickwork, I may try some of that myself.

psst! the lianas are AMAZING
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Aoba on June 09, 2006, 05:31:37 pm
Wow! Extremely good looking map. Had a small match between friends just a while ago in this map and I couldn't find any complaints from this one. I give it full 10/10.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Anna on June 09, 2006, 07:47:26 pm
Thanks for the comments  :)

Since I found so many PolyWorks bugs while making this map I'm going to start working on an update ;)
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: KamikazeDuck on June 09, 2006, 07:52:27 pm
This map is fantastic! Eyecandy  :)

That's nice mist/fading at the bottom of the map.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: peemonkey on June 09, 2006, 08:10:25 pm
Yea anna, there's still a bunch of bugs, but it's a very nice program. Just wish I could figure out waypoints :P
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Field Marshal on June 09, 2006, 08:41:38 pm
This map is simply brilliant! :o I love the shading and effects. Another great on from you anna, Good work
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Proxy on June 09, 2006, 08:43:25 pm
I'd love to see this around on more pubs, and maybe even as a default map. Probably won't happen, but a guy can still dream, eh? :E
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Studio 8 on June 09, 2006, 08:45:24 pm
WOW That was great! PWN!
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: MZ on June 09, 2006, 09:02:41 pm
Really one of the best maps ever.
I just hope the framerate isn't brought down like in your other map...
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: chrono on June 09, 2006, 09:05:15 pm
it lookks VERY good. Amazinggg texture and scenery. Well, could not of expected any less from the creator of Polyworks :D
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Spyder on June 09, 2006, 10:06:47 pm
awesome map, expected as always from Anna XD

and finally a update for PW, it has been awhile since that happened =D
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: cooz on June 10, 2006, 04:14:15 am
it's good map
but this skewed stairts texture is just so unnatural
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Le MeSsiE {neo} on June 10, 2006, 05:03:35 am
I'm really in pretty admiration for all people who can make this beautifuly maps.
Ambiance Dungeon and Dragon!
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: swebonny on June 10, 2006, 06:48:05 am
Hloly shit...this is scary and beautiful in one pack. So dam nice map!

NIce one!

Dl:...
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: PapaSurf on June 10, 2006, 06:49:42 am
This is sweet, just what I'd expect from you Anna.  Awesome map, keep it up.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Melbanana on June 10, 2006, 06:51:40 am
Fantastic work Anna! The game play of the map is also great. =)
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Serial K!ller on June 10, 2006, 08:07:08 am
Great map! The bricks are amazing and the depth on the rocks looks very real
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: GluLm on June 10, 2006, 08:30:15 am
Excellent! What a shock!
You used pretty colours and clever light sources! Also the layout is very interesting. I love the lianas aww.
I just regret the flags are so high... it doesn't feel convenient to use the bottom path. Well perhaps I'm mistaking.

But seriously, this is one of the best maps every made!
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Demonic on June 10, 2006, 08:48:58 am
Aesthetics are cool, layout is rad, I'm mapmining it, stat!
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Anna on June 10, 2006, 04:42:55 pm
Thanks guys :)

Really one of the best maps ever.
I just hope the framerate isn't brought down like in your other map...

I really tried to keep the poly count down this time, which caused a lack of detail in a lot of areas. But I just tested it with edges and I didn't get a drop in framerate, so I guess it was worth it :)
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: GAMEOVER on June 11, 2006, 10:37:47 pm
Anna, you are really one of my favorite map makers all of your maps have looked unlike anything else I have ever seen. Very good job!

nice texture btw ;)
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: -WildBill- on June 25, 2006, 11:51:54 am
wow, anna, you're out of control... lol
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: chrono on June 25, 2006, 11:53:23 am
Anna make more maps!!! plzzz i love these
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Blues on June 26, 2006, 12:58:05 am
Wow, awesome looking map.
Now to see if it plays good. ;)
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: viggoloniggolo on June 26, 2006, 08:17:43 am
looks better on the overview than in-game actually and the lack of plot on the polygon astounds me, there is nothing unusual about the poly placement at all.
disappointment...

looks nice, thow the coloured crazy texture looks a lil like barf.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: jrgp on June 26, 2006, 09:41:29 am
wow, that truly is amazing.

the multitexture is phenominal :o
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Vltava on June 26, 2006, 11:03:05 pm
I can waypoint it with my mediocre skills if you want. I'll get to it tomorrow after class. I really like the lighting effects on the upper level. Beautiful.

Edit – Alrighty, Keron's got it.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Keron Cyst on June 27, 2006, 12:19:24 am
May I waypoint it instead, Vltava? ;)
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: RatBoy on June 28, 2006, 12:38:23 am
OMG I think I'm gonna quit doing maps, never could match this. Excelent work.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Keron Cyst on June 28, 2006, 02:54:06 pm
Thanks, Vltava. I need something to do right now. :P

You could dl. it later and maybe learn how I work, and add that to your own technique! The enemy flag area's gonna be a pain for bots arising from beneath, but I think I can manage it. Awesome work. The texture is great.

EDIT Ooh, this is going along faster than I thought. I've nearly perfected Path 1, and since it's virtually symmetrical except for a few polys at the bottom, PolyWorks' duplication & flip functions will allow me to release it in less than half an hour.

Ah, dang, it'll have to wait... :(
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: alwex on July 01, 2006, 08:41:08 am
This map should be a default map on the next soldat version, cause this is a brilliant map, great balance in it and the colors and shading is great. Its just the spawning i dont get, why they fall, but u have medic packs there so thats no problem.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle
Post by: Keron Cyst on July 01, 2006, 11:20:15 am
... Its just the spawning i dont get, why they fall, but u have medic packs there so thats no problem.
Are you playing on Realistic? Just jet a bit before you hit the ground.

I've nearly perfected it. The bottom is taking a lot longer than I thought, as I predicted, but there are just some maps whose waypoints will never be perfect no matter what one does. :P I'll e-mail Anna the waypointed version soon.

Done. Also suited for HTF. What's hilarious about the stuff is that I have absolutely no waypoints specifically telling the bots to take the lower path from the spawn zone, and yet they tend to take the route anyways, either by faulty movement or combat ;D
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: rainrider on July 03, 2006, 12:40:00 am
That is not the best what you made :P
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: Keron Cyst on July 05, 2006, 09:29:03 pm
Now, Vltava, download and learn. ;D
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: Vltava on July 05, 2006, 09:36:53 pm
I did look into your waypointing, but I've finally got my own "style" down, and it works well (inf_Sofo), but thanks for your guide and help, anyways. As for the map, I finally got around to playing it thanks to Keron Cyst, and it's larger than I thought. Quite fun, but more spots to hide would be pleasant.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: Mistercharles on July 05, 2006, 09:43:19 pm
Ooh, YES!
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: TrmD on July 06, 2006, 10:55:07 am
You are a mapping god...

*dowloading*
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: $kyThunder on July 21, 2006, 05:59:09 am
Anna czy ty jesteś polką ???Jeśli tak to super!!
AND I like that map :) Very .Its very nice
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: nosejj on April 30, 2018, 02:09:35 pm
WOW! This map is B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L! Looks great as 4vs4 - 5vs5 map! I wish there'd be a down-scaled 3v3 version of this! Seriously this looks like it's out of fucking Tomb Raider! :D

Only thing I dislike is the stairs in the middle section, rather it'd be one slope instead.
And also, I think the texture was changed within 1.7.1, It doesn't display the one in the pics in this thread anymore. :(
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: jrgp on May 02, 2018, 12:23:30 am
WOW! This map is B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L! Looks great as 4vs4 - 5vs5 map! I wish there'd be a down-scaled 3v3 version of this! Seriously this looks like it's out of fucking Tomb Raider! :D

Only thing I dislike is the stairs in the middle section, rather it'd be one slope instead.
And also, I think the texture was changed within 1.7.1, It doesn't display the one in the pics in this thread anymore. :(

It really is a pretty map. What's even crazier is how the download link in the original post http://individual.utoronto.ca/caek/ctf_oracle.zip all the way from 2006 still works, 12 years after the fact and probably 10 years after Anna left us. That's some serious lack of link rot.
Title: Re: ctf_Oracle (waypointed)
Post by: nosejj on May 02, 2018, 02:12:46 am
So I tried to point my finger at what exactly bothers me in this map, and what do I think will make it a better map and suitable for competitive 3vs3.

1) It must be downsized. the scale is too big for 3vs3 setting.
2) The lower routes have to be mirrored, my illustration shows only 1 spot that should be equalized. by the whole route should be mirrored.
3) The textures were beautiful, and now probably replaced. I don't see these beautiful bricks anymore.


I really hope some pro mapper picks this map up and fixes it.


Here's the illustration for some more suggestions.