Official Soldat Forums

Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: Lt. Sprizz on October 27, 2008, 07:41:26 pm

Title: Gas Masks?
Post by: Lt. Sprizz on October 27, 2008, 07:41:26 pm
Alright this isn't really a necessity, but i would like to see the customization option of giving your guys facial covers, like a gas mask or a shee mog(is that how u spell it?) or a fighter pilot helmet. it would be sweet in the sense that clans could then have matching faces and thing like that. also, maybe just the option to add like a colored vest or backpackk to your guy would be cool. just thinking about it and thought i would get other people's opinions...
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: SadistAtHeart on October 27, 2008, 07:43:44 pm
As a gas mask enthusiast, I wholeheartedly support this.

That being said, MM once stated that there won't be any additional customization features... but with new coders, who knows?
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: LtKillroy on October 27, 2008, 07:55:13 pm
General attitude torwards suggestions like this is its a good idea, but when there are all kinds of bugs and stuff to be fixed, its probably not going to happen.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: miketh2005 on October 27, 2008, 08:55:29 pm
F12.

Make it an additional option for registered users, so that more people will register, I really can't believe MM wants more people to register when the benifits are outragously low.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: KYnetiK on October 27, 2008, 09:22:09 pm
Personally I think when it comes to player customisation thingies like this, we need dropdown boxes per section as opposed to bullets.

So you would have a gostek folder for hair, face, chest etc. Then when you go to face options, select gasmask out of the face dropdown box.
Physical bodypart gosteks would remain the same. The gfx for these remain static as normal.

Now the problem is that you cant add more stuff into those folders (each player needs the same files in a server for others to see your custom gosteks). So the alternative is to have as many gfx in these gostek folders as possible in the first place [on the install].

So /face/ <blank>, gasmask, ninja, jason hockeymask, splitter paint, sunnies, goggles, beard. Just a gostek the size of the head graphic that is overlayed on top of the head.

/chest/ <blank>, vest (not kevlar), backpack, bulletbelt, space invader.  Just a gostek aroughly the size of the torso graphic that is overlayed on top.
Chest is a bit unnecessary, but interesting.


Were not talking bout difficult stuff, and it means that with little more content, players feel a bit more satisfied. Makes your avatar a bit more unique, and can be fun when it comes to modding.

Could even make such Soldat 'avatar' options reg only.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 28, 2008, 01:48:55 am
F12. I'd like to see beard also.
Make it an additional option for registered users, so that more people will register, I really can't believe MM wants more people to register when the benifits are outragously low.
And that's also a good idea.

Can you add a poll? Maybe if there would be a lot of positive votes in poll it would convince developers.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Hair|Trigger on October 28, 2008, 02:00:58 am
I doubt polls help convince developers, as they are only supposed to consider it if -about- 90% or more are for it, negating the need for a poll, not that it doesn't help, particularly with more than two sides or views to discuss.

Still, this could be modded (by turning the Hat into a Gas mask is possible I believe? or even the helmet) but it would be real nice to see more customization features. But don't give it all to the registered users.. should leave more functional items for them imo, and not to let it turn out like combat arms :)
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 28, 2008, 02:10:08 am
I doubt polls help convince developers

What about a poll with 94 votes for yes and 18 votes for no? :) Even if this isn't 90% support, the fact that almost one hundred users voted for yes would be impressive and I think devs would consider implementing such idea :)
In general there are usually more votes in a poll than posts in the thread containing that poll, so polls are more precise.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: scarface09 on October 28, 2008, 02:47:53 am
F12, very interesting and I support this idea 100%. Also maybe Dark Glasses (Night-Vision Goggles?), belts or Thieve/Robber Balaclavers could also be implemented.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Zero72 on October 28, 2008, 04:56:56 am
That being said, MM once stated that there won't be any additional customization features... but with new coders, who knows?
Good point. Everybody's wanted all kinds of extra customization since Soldat has been around at all, and MM wouldn't budge, though I can't say I blame him. Supposedly, the gostek programming is just extremely inefficient to try to modify, but maybe there's a chance now that it's a multi-man project. Maybe.

If so, heck, I'm always a big fan of customization, so I'll support this.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Platehead on October 28, 2008, 05:26:36 am
mmm, it's not a bad idea, but I just think Soldat should be more gameplay-based then the looks of the men...
Still, I support for the heck of it.  Would be pretty cool.
F12
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: TBDM on October 28, 2008, 06:11:55 am
a 5pixel gasmask?
it would e pretty cool, but isn't it a bit too small for additions like these?
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: STM1993 on October 28, 2008, 06:55:13 am
Where's the poll?

Anyway, I'd say its a F12. I agree that the feature is pretty useless in the sense that it is only for appearance and modding can be done, but I'd still support greater variety.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Decaying Soldat on October 28, 2008, 09:46:58 am
Nothing special, but makes the game cooler. Not much time needed making it either, so f12. Though in the mean time we can do it with modding.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on October 28, 2008, 09:59:23 am
F12.

Make it an additional option for registered users, so that more people will register, I really can't believe MM wants more people to register when the benifits are outragously low.

The point of registering is (and always has been) to support the game.  It used to be that the only benefits of registering were that you were able to change the color of your jet flames... you don't really think MM is stupid enough to expect people to pay $9 for that, do you?

The little things that have been added here and there over the past few years as benefits to registered players are intended to allow those people who registered to customize their game, they're not intended to be the driving force behind registration.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: ~Niko~ on October 28, 2008, 10:14:15 am
i'd like some other thing, like bandanas or like that...
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: PaFel on October 28, 2008, 10:53:56 am
F12. Want more to mod 'cause for now it bored me a bit :).
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: -Major- on October 28, 2008, 12:05:23 pm
I'd like to have more options of my appearance in soldat. F12
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: miketh2005 on October 28, 2008, 12:22:35 pm
F12.

Make it an additional option for registered users, so that more people will register, I really can't believe MM wants more people to register when the benifits are outragously low.

The point of registering is (and always has been) to support the game.  It used to be that the only benefits of registering were that you were able to change the color of your jet flames... you don't really think MM is stupid enough to expect people to pay $9 for that, do you?

The little things that have been added here and there over the past few years as benefits to registered players are intended to allow those people who registered to customize their game, they're not intended to be the driving force behind registration.

That's why I registered, but what I'M saying is that he can't expect to get anymore than fanboys (like me) that play the game every single day (like me), to register, the only way HE'S gonna get the money he wants is to add more features for registered users, he put up a poll asking people if they registered yet or something, he can't expect to get lots of people if he doesn't give benifits, over 30% (38) people said that they didnt see enough benifits, that's what is leading in that poll...

Now, almost every single person in the thread said F12, that's more than 90%...
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 28, 2008, 01:25:52 pm
Now, almost every single person in the thread said F12, that's more than 90%...

Yeah, if within next few days there will be no one against this, we should add this idea to public demands.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: scarface09 on October 29, 2008, 02:41:27 am
Can someone please add a poll for this idea, or else it won't be implemented. That is what Echo_trail told me. So could someone do that for me. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 29, 2008, 02:45:13 am
scarface09 - poll can be added by topic's creator or by a moderator.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: scarface09 on October 29, 2008, 03:05:57 am
yea thats why i asked in the first place...
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: miketh2005 on October 29, 2008, 03:30:47 am
u cant put a poll on anymore in this new board >.> also the auto-merger is missing
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 29, 2008, 04:20:43 am
u cant put a poll on anymore in this new board >.>

Do you mean whole Soldatforums 2.0 or Game Improvements / Suggestions board only?
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Jeffy on October 29, 2008, 09:26:22 am
Sounds like it would be a nice idea. Would be cool!
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: miketh2005 on October 29, 2008, 02:10:48 pm
u cant put a poll on anymore in this new board >.>

Do you mean whole Soldatforums 2.0 or Game Improvements / Suggestions board only?
I dunno, this is the only board I've posted in since 2.0 came out :P
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 29, 2008, 02:20:20 pm
Hmm...
On Forum News and Support I have posted a topic with a poll without problems.
Here I don't remember whether I started any thread with poll after 2.0... And I cannot check if I can add a poll to a topic now, because all my topics have polls already :)
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: echo_trail on October 29, 2008, 02:48:13 pm
Fixed for your enjoyment ;)
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 29, 2008, 03:06:03 pm
Thanks!
Hooray for echo_trail! Praise him with great praise!
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: MeMM00 on October 29, 2008, 04:14:13 pm
yeah i like the idea i made a biker/paintball helmet for myself, now my dude has a cooler helmet thatn normal. i could post some pictures if you want to
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Vilho on October 29, 2008, 05:28:43 pm
Gas masks aren't really turning me on, but I support the idea of new customizations. F12!
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gotfryd on October 30, 2008, 03:52:30 am
yeah i like the idea i made a biker/paintball helmet for myself, now my dude has a cooler helmet thatn normal. i could post some pictures if you want to

Yeah, I'd gladly see them. But post them rather in Mod&Modmaking section.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: scarface09 on November 02, 2008, 06:42:37 pm
Should this be added to the public demands list?? Looks like a lot of people wanted this idea.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Lt. Sprizz on November 05, 2008, 09:28:40 am
Thx echo-trail ;D
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: L[0ne]R on December 25, 2008, 12:45:52 pm
I agree that it would be a great addition.
The options we have right now do help a lot in making your character more unique, but it isn't enough. Looking forward to new customisation features.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: tehsnipah on December 25, 2008, 04:49:24 pm
Unless there will be a smoke bomb, I will go for f11. Sorry.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: -Major- on December 25, 2008, 06:48:26 pm
I don't like this idea. it's unnesecary none the less.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: messuh on December 25, 2008, 07:02:52 pm
I wouldnt agree for gas mask but I ''(f12, f12 and f12!!!)" for new customizations! it will be rly nice if MM put new accessories!
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: adam01526 on December 26, 2008, 06:20:25 am
I would rather have the bugs ironed out first but i think that this is a welcome feature. As STM1993 said it would be good to have some variation.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Bonecrusher on December 26, 2008, 05:59:58 pm
moar customizable options means moar fun! F12!
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Godefroy on December 27, 2008, 02:15:02 am
I always thought this would be a cool option to have. F12
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: adam01526 on December 27, 2008, 12:55:44 pm
f12. i dont understand why people are against it, it will improve the game in a way that doesnt affect it
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Ellimist on December 28, 2008, 04:11:11 am
The more variation the better :)
F12
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Gnoblar on December 28, 2008, 06:04:40 am
Can't you jsut modify the "helm/helm2" int eh Gosteks folder to make your desired helmet?
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: croat1gamer on December 28, 2008, 09:04:56 am
because the others wont see that, and with this one it will be more viewable gostaks at normal soldat, without gostek mods
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Ketchup on December 31, 2008, 12:43:51 pm
I support this for all registered users. There should also be a few customizable body trinkets too.

It would give the un-registered users some inspiration to purchase the Soldat-Reg.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: adam01526 on January 02, 2009, 01:49:36 pm
I support this for all registered users. There should also be a few customizable body trinkets too.

It would give the un-registered users some inspiration to purchase the Soldat-Reg.

seconded
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: a fool on January 03, 2009, 05:25:12 pm
F12

How about being able to have completly custom gostek, and when entering a server, every player "downloads" your images automatically. And to prevent huge massive amount of download. Add a size limit. But eh, I do sincerely doubt this would happen
[/offtopic]

I think this is a good idea, more variation and less of "Omg you look like me!" That I get very often.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Xxypher on September 26, 2009, 11:04:22 pm
F12 TILL MY FINGER FALLS OFF
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: DarkCrusade on September 27, 2009, 10:24:51 am
F12. For gods sake or even better gods alcoholic drinks.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Furai on September 27, 2009, 10:31:22 am
Isn't that called multi-threading + topic revive? At least close the other one thread (this new one as this is way better).
Back on topic: F12. I like the overall idea.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: scout on September 27, 2009, 10:55:13 am
same here, ive always wanted more modding options rather than the usual -hair 1, 2, 3, 4, morda, kap and helm.It would also be a great way to showcase the forums. Like customized 'SF Gosteks'.

Im sure this has been suggested before, there should also be a temporary file feature, where the downloaded gosteks are moved to a temp file, and removed once soldat is closed.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: N0va on September 27, 2009, 12:23:42 pm
The only reason to why I think people would be against it in the first place is that perhaps in the beginning everyone would start to put on that accessory.  But the flaw in that plan is that people will get tired of looking like everyone else, and so people will convert back to the hat or dredlock style.

I'm for it :D. 
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: -Skykanden- on September 27, 2009, 02:34:33 pm
And then someone mods it.
Oh cmon guys, really if you really want them I'll make them as a mod, but I think it's not necessary to put them as origial thing to customize
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: demoniac93 on September 27, 2009, 03:37:46 pm
Aw come on sky...You know that the SF community sums up to about a max of (40% ?) of the entire soldat community, and even so, the people here want their gostek to be shown not only to themselves but to others, just as Taunts are part of the way you express yourself on soldat so is one's gostek. F12 with a cherry on top.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Cube2 on October 22, 2009, 04:28:51 am
I thought the idea was to add bad gas and the ability to have gas masks to protect yourself, and i was about to hella f11 that, until I read its just a customization of looks. that's an f12 then ;)
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Cyrix on November 05, 2009, 02:15:08 pm
What if the gas masks went a step further and became functional? What if you could shoot gass grenades or something along those lines that slow characters down or some other ailment and the only way to prevent it is to pick up a gas mask and put it on. Make it so it will only last a certain amount of time. Now, not only will you need to kill and be killed but you need to prepare and be ready for the gas. I think the gas mask thing is an awesome idea.  ;D
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: scout on November 05, 2009, 02:49:55 pm
Nope, gas grenades will never( or at least in the near future ) be implemented

because-


The Don't-Suggest List
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/766/emotsirenta8.gif)NEW WEAPONS(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/766/emotsirenta8.gif) This would invite even more weapon-balance issues, disrupt Soldat's file layout, mess up functionality of old mods, etc. Besides, you can already edit weapons.ini ;)

Please, read the stickies before even thinking of suggesting such stuff.

And IMO, adding gas grenades will just mess-up the whole aim for soldat- which is to provide a fun, simple and classic way of gaming.

I can't see soldat being like a 'normal' fps shooter where theres lots of 'extra' gadgets involved like said smokes, flash-bangs , C4 timed charges etc, etc- whichs makes it more complicated than it supposed to be.

So yeah, F12 for gas masks JUST for looks. F11 for gas masks for smokes and what have you.
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Lt. Sprizz on November 05, 2009, 06:35:20 pm
Wow just got back on the forums after like a year of never getting on here, just to post a problem I've been having, and I happen to see that this topic is still getting posted on.

For love of God, listen to your servants, MM! More customization pleeeeease!
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: SpiltCoffee on November 05, 2009, 07:39:22 pm
You seem to need some updates on the situation around here, too, Lt. Sprizz. EnEsCe is working on Soldat now, not MM. No use pleading to him for the changes when he isn't going to care. :S
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: Lt. Sprizz on November 07, 2009, 09:40:00 pm
Seriously? Well, just take my post and switch it to EnEsCe.

Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: ~viper~ on November 21, 2009, 03:17:57 am
interesting, but if you want to push for a visual change, ask for the obvious one first --> female characters / player models!  (Then, along the way, casually show your desire for a gas mask...)
Title: Re: Gas Masks?
Post by: messuh on November 21, 2009, 07:53:45 pm
interesting, but if you want to push for a visual change, ask for the obvious one first --> female characters / player models!  (Then, along the way, casually show your desire for a gas mask...)
Totally true. You got a point.