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Title: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Graham on June 10, 2006, 03:46:26 am
I was playing today and realized some kills I got came from bullets or nades that hit after I was dead. I think there should be a server option to turn this on or off. The default will be "on" and it will be like it is now, everything hurts. When "no" is selected only bullets/nades that hit while your alive count.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Aoba on June 10, 2006, 03:56:59 am
Hmm, I agree about having an option to enable it or disable. However,  it's fun if someone dies from a grenade thrown just a moment before getting killed. I like this suggestion, as long as there really would be an option for it.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Sotija on June 10, 2006, 06:53:44 am
I like that + Good suggestion.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: T-Bone on June 10, 2006, 07:00:02 am
I think it's a good idea, but the only people that use it will be people who want to get better.  All the n00bs that think they run Soldat won't select it cause they want those last few bullets/nade to get them a kill so they can show their 1337 $K1LLZ0I2Z
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Messiah on June 10, 2006, 11:02:13 am
Yeah, sometimes i die from late shots and you dont see the log in the top right hand corner it just has there name like "Major <no gun> and it dosent say how you died, i think its just late registering, i think its just lag.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Denacke on June 10, 2006, 11:11:10 am
I don't get the idea behind this suggestion at all. Isn't it fun and strictly normal that your bullets and grenades still have effect after you died?

I totally miss the point/use for this suggestion.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: BondJamesBond on June 10, 2006, 11:12:12 am
Yeah, sometimes i die from late shots and you dont see the log in the top right hand corner it just has there name like "Major <no gun> and it dosent say how you died, i think its just late registering, i think its just lag.
Agreed.

I dont think this idea should be implemented because making kills after your death is pretty big. Think anout CWs and stuff
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: iDante on June 10, 2006, 11:14:23 am
I think that if this were implemented I would scream. If you throw a nade and are killed, your nade is still going to go off and kill whoever runs it over. I dont see why one would want this not to happen, unless you are being owned over and over by a dead dude :(... My vote, NO.

I do think that bullets going slower than x speed should not inflict damage though.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: xurich on June 10, 2006, 12:33:04 pm
Absolutely not. It's only natural that the shots you make while still alive will still give damage after you're dead. Think about M79 duels where both people shoot, Player A has a pretty ordinary, quick kill, while Player B's shot makes an awesome arc and comes crashing down upon Player A's head, seconds after Player B is already dead. I've had many classic moments like these, and I'd hate to see them no more over something so completely unnecessary. I can see no real reason for enabling this option.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: BondJamesBond on June 10, 2006, 04:56:42 pm
I do think that bullets going slower than x speed should not inflict damage though.

That already happens... to a degree I guess. The farther and less speed a bullet has, the less damage
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: vulbastick on June 10, 2006, 05:58:58 pm
But if you got rid of that there would be no last minute revenge, let alone be unrealistic.
makes no sense to get rid of it...
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Graham on June 10, 2006, 07:44:11 pm
But if you got rid of that there would be no last minute revenge, let alone be unrealistic.
makes no sense to get rid of it...
Having to get shot 8-10 times from a ak before you die is realistic? Btw I love using my jet boots to fly to work.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: RabidTreeFrog on June 10, 2006, 07:53:45 pm
Aw, common.

  Death by a dead guy is one of my favorite things. Rush in, throw some nades, burn off a steyr clip, die, kill 3 guys due to nades. Funfun.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Graham on June 10, 2006, 07:54:42 pm
I just think it would be nice to have the game to be a bit more challanging.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Plonkoon on June 10, 2006, 08:00:08 pm
this would totally screw up half my knife kills, which I throw in the thick of a fight once I run out of ammo.  I usually hit someone but only after I'm dead.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: boer on June 11, 2006, 05:06:55 am
But if you got rid of that there would be no last minute revenge, let alone be unrealistic.
makes no sense to get rid of it...
Having to get shot 8-10 times from a ak before you die is realistic? Btw I love using my jet boots to fly to work.

vulbastick should have said Illogical. IMO , unrealistic is fine ( 2d, jetboots , 10 bullets to kill,respawing, etc..) but but something not logic? come on,  it is reasonable to expect your bullets to be independent and just be after you fired them .  this idea is like to make teamkills add to your kills , your gun shooting backwards, all bullets that dont hit do, all those that hit dont..., its just illogical and will ruin the game
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Fraggy on June 11, 2006, 05:13:49 am
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I was playing today and realized some kills I got came from bullets or nades that hit after I was dead. I think there should be a server option to turn this on or off. The default will be "on" and it will be like it is now, everything hurts. When "no" is selected only bullets/nades that hit while your alive count.

What about bullet time then?
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Sethamundo on June 11, 2006, 09:51:52 am
CW's no, but as an option for the server, who knows it might not be bad for pubs every now and then...
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: CardBoardWarrior on June 11, 2006, 10:53:23 am
I don't get the idea behind this suggestion at all. Isn't it fun and strictly normal that your bullets and grenades still have effect after you died?

I totally miss the point/use for this suggestion.
Yeah, I dont like this idea.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Yuth on June 11, 2006, 11:42:28 am
Eh ?  :-\

I think this would be a pretty lame addition.
Because of some of the following reasons:


Absolutely not. It's only natural that the shots you make while still alive will still give damage after you're dead. Think about M79 duels where both people shoot, Player A has a pretty ordinary, quick kill, while Player B's shot makes an awesome arc and comes crashing down upon Player A's head, seconds after Player B is already dead. I've had many classic moments like these, and I'd hate to see them no more over something so completely unnecessary. I can see no real reason for enabling this option.


this would totally screw up half my knife kills, which I throw in the thick of a fight once I run out of ammo.  I usually hit someone but only after I'm dead.


- I agree that getting killed by a dead guy is pretty annoying.
But this would just screw the gameplay up.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Tacklebeast666 on June 11, 2006, 04:39:51 pm
why would you want this....is it that hard to dodge ak shots after you kill him with a ruger in one shot or something? never bothered me before.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: zaraza on June 11, 2006, 04:50:51 pm
I don't get it. First ppl want Soldat to be as realistic as possible and now this?

No way...
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: vulbastick on June 11, 2006, 04:59:38 pm
I just think it would be nice to have the game to be a bit more challanging.
it would make it less challenging...
with it in you have to be wary of last minute bullets and dropped nades.
without you just walk on...
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Graham on June 11, 2006, 06:02:21 pm
I don't get it. First ppl want Soldat to be as realistic as possible and now this?

No way...
Have you ever seen me ask for it to me real as possible?
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: T-Bone on June 12, 2006, 03:34:21 am
no i havent.  but the thing is (brought up by vulbastick) that a nade should still be effective after death. bullets i can understand not working
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: Unlucky XIII on June 12, 2006, 03:40:51 am
I am not completely against the idea, but I have always found it funny when you are killed the second before (or the second after) you kill the player that killed you, and they find it funny too, usually. Nades... I don't know, but bullets I would like still working after death.
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: CheeSeMan. on June 12, 2006, 04:18:58 am
Why? Its realistic...Say i shoot my m79 then you shoot me with a barret well the barret bullet goes faster i die...But the m79 shot doesn't just dissapear does it? So you would die to if hit....
Title: Re: Bullet/nade damage from dead soldats
Post by: zaraza on June 12, 2006, 07:57:09 am
I don't get it. First ppl want Soldat to be as realistic as possible and now this?

No way...
Have you ever seen me ask for it to me real as possible?

I'm not talking about you. I'm talkin in general...