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Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: wolfbr on March 08, 2009, 02:24:52 am

Title: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: wolfbr on March 08, 2009, 02:24:52 am
For example, you can grab Enemys and use them as a human shield which really helps to prolong your lifeā€¦

who to use?


press "f" close to the enemy for it uses it as shield
press "f" an throw the enemy(in others, in grenades,pits..)

you need Fists to use it:(to another weapon it is optional):
ex:

primary weapon = mp5
secundary weapon = fists

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advantages, disadvantages

-more defese
-slow movement
-more bink
-1 hit cancel the shield.
-you cannot jump,crouch or go prone.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Decaying Soldat on March 08, 2009, 02:44:48 am
Erm...No?

Slows down gameplay, VERY annoying to be held by someone, and finally, NO.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: iDante on March 08, 2009, 02:47:35 am
Erm...No?

Slows down gameplay, VERY annoying to be held by someone, and finally, NO.
What he said.

Plus... chainsaw?
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: DarkCrusade on March 08, 2009, 03:22:01 am
F11, iDante spkoe it out ;D
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: STM1993 on March 08, 2009, 04:31:56 am
^ What everyone above me (other than topic starter) has said.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: igotnousername on March 08, 2009, 05:25:28 am
none of your team will care if you die
so when you are grabbed
they will kill you to kill the enemy :(
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: scarface09 on March 08, 2009, 07:18:22 am
Negative...F11
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Serial K!ller on March 08, 2009, 07:20:10 am
Doesn't fit in soldat imho
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: croat1gamer on March 08, 2009, 07:51:38 am
dam, that would be
really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, REALLY messy

f11

and i dont thing 50 EnEsCes would be enough to modify that
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Ragnaros on March 08, 2009, 10:52:46 am
hah nice idea but
Quote
Doesn't fit in soldat
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: L[0ne]R on March 09, 2009, 09:38:11 am
Isn't worth the effort.
I mean the effort of getting close enough to the enemy only to grab him and live a few seconds longer (and get M79'd in the face as soon as your shield gets useless)
And the effort of coding this whole thing. Soldat is too fast paced for those kinds of tricks.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Furai on March 09, 2009, 10:08:38 am
Erm...No?

Slows down gameplay, VERY annoying to be held by someone, and finally, NO.
What he said.

Plus... chainsaw?
What they said, plus it's just stupid. F11'ed
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Xxypher on March 09, 2009, 10:24:57 am
All that is needed to be said is NO.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: wolfbr on March 09, 2009, 11:29:13 am
Using enemies as human shields is not only a fun extra, it would be useful to cover an ally(CFT,INF)and obtain an extra defense.

in friendly fire off, human shield functions similar to the Bullet Vest.


in friendly fire on, Human shield of the one good protection.

therefore , is not very useful against some weapons(Barret,m2..)

it does not need the shield more than? press "s" to kill using your weapon or press "X" to kill using your hands


in this way, punch would be a useful weapon. ;D

Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Ketchup on March 09, 2009, 03:37:10 pm
I'd say no, because it would actually ruin the sportsmanship ingame because of whining and complaining, and I can think of a few things some people would say.

F11
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: jettlarue on March 09, 2009, 04:00:34 pm
I think that projectiles should still collide with dead people, I remember killing someone in front of me and then using their dead body as a meat shield from grenades, or vice versa throwing grenades at the dead body so any nades close by would blow up. It saddened me when MM took that out. For the idea you have, f11. But the idea of meat shields in-game is a great tactic.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Xxypher on March 09, 2009, 08:30:22 pm

it does not need the shield more than? press "s" to kill using your weapon or press "X" to kill using your hands


"Okay, I've had my fun with this shield, time to kill him off and continue using my M79."
*Presses S*
*Explodes*
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: wolfbr on March 10, 2009, 12:29:50 pm

it does not need the shield more than? press "s" to kill using your weapon or press "X" to kill using your hands


"Okay, I've had my fun with this shield, time to kill him off and continue using my M79."
*Presses S*
*Explodes*

you can always kill enemy players with the butt of your weapon using the 'S' key(m79,law)
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Platehead on March 11, 2009, 02:54:00 am
Umm, it'd tick me off to be heaved around taking bullets.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Dairy on March 11, 2009, 06:07:59 am
Arent bodies penetratable ?
Bodies dissapear after respawn.
Imagine spawn camper with fresh bodies all around the place.

Verdict - NO
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: echo_trail on March 11, 2009, 06:08:40 am
Definitely not a fan.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: wolfbr on March 11, 2009, 02:56:48 pm
you could only use "still alive enemy",not dead body,
Because it would be very easy to obtain a shield.
they remember that it is not very easy to arrive close to the enemies.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: L[0ne]R on March 11, 2009, 04:48:47 pm
it is not very easy to arrive close to the enemies.

Which is exactly why i think this feature shouldnt be added. :S
How often can you punch the enemy to death? Very rarely. Same thing with human shield. It's not worth adding simply because it's too hard to execute and it won't be used most of the time.
You have better chance of surviving by killing enemies from the distance, or at least with a chainsaw, than trying to get a human shield.

Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: AntiHero on March 11, 2009, 06:50:39 pm
What people above me said :/
1-Would be hard to kill...Sort of
2-People could use it for |Spawn Killing|
3-Not fun for people around you
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: wolfbr on March 11, 2009, 07:35:18 pm
What people above me said :/
1-Would be hard to kill...Sort of
2-People could use it for |Spawn Killing|
3-Not fun for people around you

1- not,It is similar to bullet vest, it is an additional defense, not a super shield from Cs-1.6
2- the shield protects its front, to the other parts is vulnerable .
3- it is funny for me :D
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: AntiHero on March 11, 2009, 08:16:56 pm
I said "Fun" not funny but thats what I think I dont know your thinking about this so yeah :D
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: SpiltCoffee on March 11, 2009, 10:29:00 pm
I say no, as this would be a highly useless, rarely usable feature. I'd say development time should be spent on better things than this.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Platehead on March 12, 2009, 02:01:37 am
Heh, good point, makes me think of spawncamping Ash..
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: wolfbr on March 12, 2009, 01:51:01 pm
I say no, as this would be a highly useless, rarely usable feature. I'd say development time should be spent on better things than this.
not much rare,the times we see players killing with the ChainSaw, knife, spars-12.
it is not easy if to approach to the enemies, but also it is not very difficult, this only demands practical.
with this improvement, punch would be a good one sets the short distance.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Snake on March 12, 2009, 10:14:19 pm
yes! I love MGS! lol... but this is soldat... good idea... but no... there would surely be some abuse
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: SpiltCoffee on March 13, 2009, 01:50:53 am
I say no, as this would be a highly useless, rarely usable feature. I'd say development time should be spent on better things than this.
not much rare,the times we see players killing with the ChainSaw, knife, spars-12.
it is not easy if to approach to the enemies, but also it is not very difficult, this only demands practical.
with this improvement, punch would be a good one sets the short distance.
Chainsaw fires faster than fists do, therefore it's easier to try and hit someone with, and at least guarantees a kill. The fists, if you ever manage to get a kill, leave you defenceless. The only time you actually fist someone (usually) is when you're standing in the same spot as them and can only use the butt of your gun to hit them.

Knife and Spas-12 are terrible examples. You throw the knife at people. And the Spas is a fucking gun, has nothing to do with melee attacks.

Still say no.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: L[0ne]R on March 13, 2009, 08:12:02 am
He just doesn't give up. ;D
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: adam01526 on March 20, 2009, 02:43:49 am
Erm...No?

Slows down gameplay, VERY annoying to be held by someone, and finally, NO.
What he said.

Plus... chainsaw?
.

^^^

All the games you have mentioned are singleplayer games! Anything that restricts a players movement in a multiplayer game is generally a bad thing.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: scarface09 on March 20, 2009, 05:43:19 am
What about throwing a dead body at an enemy? Lolz worth the ask.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: AussieJay on March 20, 2009, 05:52:40 am
Even though it would be greatly annoying to be held, it could work. I remember another game that allowed you to pick up and throw players...LF2...
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: adam01526 on March 21, 2009, 04:12:55 am
Even though it would be greatly annoying to be held, it could work. I remember another game that allowed you to pick up and throw players...LF2...

but was it a multiplayer game? it wont work
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: demoniac93 on March 23, 2009, 11:47:02 am
No, too much slowing down to the pace, and simply, stupid. no.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: adam01526 on March 23, 2009, 12:35:35 pm
if you want this feature in a game then go and play the games that you have mentioned in the title.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: AussieJay on March 25, 2009, 05:38:05 am
Quote
but was it a multiplayer game?

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: demoniac93 on March 25, 2009, 07:49:14 am
I say no, as this would be a highly useless, rarely usable feature. I'd say development time should be spent on better things than this.
not much rare,the times we see players killing with the ChainSaw, knife, spars-12.
it is not easy if to approach to the enemies, but also it is not very difficult, this only demands practical.
with this improvement, punch would be a good one sets the short distance.

Knife? my friend what did you say? people can get knife kills from 80+ meters (a friend of mine got 93) and i get 50's and 60's myself.
Title: Re: Human Shield (crisis,the punisher,splinter cell).
Post by: Ketchup on March 25, 2009, 02:57:05 pm
Why would you want to be able to throw bodies at other players? Almost half the time your in midair with jets on, fighting for your life.