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Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: SuperSissi on May 30, 2009, 01:46:58 pm
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The LAW is a recoilless weapon, so shouldn't there be a back blast that kills people who are too close behind the shooter?
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Negative. In reality yes. In soldat, you'd have to justify why, because soldat is not reality.
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yeah, remove the jet boots too, or the minigun. That's a helicopter mounted weapon that can't be carried by a soldier.
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so shouldn't there be a back blast that kills people who are too close behind the shooter?
No. Straight no.
I'd only ever agree to being able to MOD the LAW's fire sprite to be able to make it appear to have a backblast.
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I think that is useless. It requires severe luck to kill a person I bet.
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I actually think this is a great idea to bring back some of the LAWs popularity. yes, you've gotta be lucky to kill someone this way but it would definitely be very cool. especially with a new graphic for the back blast. also imagine aiming at an enemy in front of you and at the same time killing or injuring a guy trying to creep up behind you.
you people are wayyy too critical, no wonder this game just seems to hover over the same spot
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The LAW definitely needs something changed about it; but not what has been suggested in this topic. I am open to other suggestions though.... Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
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The LAW definitely needs something changed about it; but not what has been suggested in this topic. I am open to other suggestions though.... Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
If that is supposed to be in the next version I quit Soldat
I actually think this is a great idea to bring back some of the LAWs popularity. yes, you've gotta be lucky to kill someone this way but it would definitely be very cool. especially with a new graphic for the back blast. also imagine aiming at an enemy in front of you and at the same time killing or injuring a guy trying to creep up behind you.
you people are wayyy too critical, no wonder this game just seems to hover over the same spot
New animations? No way, all mods that have been released till now wouldn´t work properly. LAW is already popular, I dont see a point with shooting from the ground with high speed, nice ricochets and a big explosion :)
I think that is useless. It requires severe luck to kill a person I bet.
I am with that, it is almost useless
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the law should have a different separate firing animation. It should be fired over than under armed. and yes back blast would be a good idea too, but killing or even injuring someone is not feasable in soldat.
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do not re-enable the 'prone-in-midair-and-shoot' ability, there were lots of complains back when this was possible and re enabling it would just make it a rocket propelled knife
also, at least add the graphic. I highly doubt a little puff of smoke coming from the back of the law will destroy mods
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at least add the graphic. I highly doubt a little puff of smoke coming from the back of the law will destroy mods
That's the most I'd like to see - a graphical change, but being able to kill with that backblast (thus affecting gameplay) is a big no-no.
Mid-air shots are also terrible, another no-no.
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Well, not really killing the enemy, more like setting him on fire and lowering his health for 1/3.
Or at least pushing him away.
Also to add, the backblast affects the people BEHIND the law shooter.
F11 for mid shots, because it is obvious.
Bit of offtopic:
Change in the .ini setting the law bullet type to spas bullets, crouch on the ground, and fire at the ground, hold your click.
FLLYYYYYY
I found out that when i was testing the mecha mod.
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I can imagine in teamplay with friendly fire on when your mate would stop behind you and you just blast his nutts off.
It's not really bad idea but I guess F11.
Addin' puff to the back of the law would work nicely. =)
Mid-air law shot - F11
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This idea is dumb. Even as only image of flames on back of the pipe. And I suppose the mid-air shot was taken out for a good purpose. Don't bring it back.
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Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
I got my thumbs up for this! It cannot be too overpowered because of the startup and other things.
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Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
I got my thumbs up for this! It cannot be too overpowered because of the startup and other things.
You can make your own soldat with that kind of setting. I swear, if that ever happens I will quit soldat as Dark is willing to.
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Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
It would help, as often when you stand on the edge of 2 polys you sometimes "fall" and to shoot you will have to change your position to a single poly, to stand firm, which takes precious time.
But adding it some bigger nerfs, like barret like bink when you try to prone shoot the law in mid air, to prevent Majors rushing on that way.
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That black smoke would actually look pretty cool. And it would be really hard to kill enemies from it so it actually sounds good,
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How to improve LAW: Remove startup, significantly lower reload (like fuggin' halve it), fire while standing (not in the air), make it able to fire in air but being inaccurate, increase speed. Pick one, some, or all. This is not it.
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I'd think all of those are good, except the speed increase - there are so many perfect shots on Ash that will never work if the speed is increased even just a little :P
Sorry I'm a rico-whore :-[
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the law should have a different separate firing animation. It should be fired over than under armed. and yes back blast would be a good idea too, but killing or even injuring someone is not feasable in soldat.
Yea it's always made me wonder why the soldaten in the game carry the LAW like an assault rifle :?
But even if you're gonna do a back blast, make it something small, like a little bit of smoke or something...
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I don't like this idea, f11'ed.
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Shouldnt kill the person near maybe smoke come out from the back I guess that be mnore realistic
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How to improve LAW: Remove startup, significantly lower reload (like fuggin' halve it), fire while standing (not in the air), make it able to fire in air but being inaccurate, increase speed. Pick one, some, or all. This is not it.
I guess we shouldn´t talk about the balancing of the LAW in this thread, simply make a little mod with a changed weapons.ini and see what it brings to do that all. I tested it myself and I regret that the LAW gets superpowers with that, even if I just change that all slightly ...
LAW is not a weapon to be fired in midair (wuuha, backblast in midair is definetly very uncool for a soldat in reality), to be fired while standing (completly idiocy in reality) and like it was often mentioned: adding more gfx to Soldat makes all mods more worse, if they handle special themes like Heretic II or Metalknights it wont look that good like it looked before adding the gfx for smoke, even if it looks good on normal Soldat.
I dislike this idea from every point you can give, in my opinion the LAW is second best secondary you can choose, because you don´t need as much skills as for the knife. Simply let it stay the way it is at the moment, beware from changing its speed, it makes perfect ricochetshots like Poppin mentioned, maybe lower the startuptime a bit, but do NOT enable shots in midair ...
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I can't imagine any sane son of a bitch trying to shoot an M72 LAW (When they still called it Bazooka...Bad times...) while standing up, if that thing doesn't tear you in half you'll still lose your arm from the shoulder and on...If you're lucky.
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First off I'd like to see anyone fire a minigun at all or hold it. Second, this guy must not be sane. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzHB8B4v3Pw)
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First off I'd like to see anyone fire a minigun at all or hold it. Second, this guy must not be sane. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzHB8B4v3Pw)
Omg...Why didn't he point the camera at the explosion...Fake???
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First off I'd like to see anyone fire a minigun at all or hold it. Second, this guy must not be sane. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzHB8B4v3Pw)
Omg...Why didn't he point the camera at the explosion...Fake???
That's a practice rocket (no explosives).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZBGJbaRLE
M72A2 LAW.
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Whoever wants realism, then for the minigun, the soldat should have an exoskeleton to even HOLD the minigun, and two little slaves which will have to follow him with the batteries and ammo for it.
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Whoever wants realism, then for the minigun, the soldat should have an exoskeleton to even HOLD the minigun, and two little slaves which will have to follow him with the batteries and ammo for it.
The minigun has it's own battery in it.
Lol screw realism it's awesome to look at, plus even weak ass Hitman (Agent 47) can carry one, so what the fuck? XD
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I bet you had that idea by watching the movie "Red october".
But it's a good idea.....the problem is, when a game is set wih friendly fire.....the friendly bot would kill us is they go behind us...
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The LAW definitely needs something changed about it; but not what has been suggested in this topic. I am open to other suggestions though.... Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
YES YES YES YES YES IN THE AIR!!!
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The LAW definitely needs something changed about it; but not what has been suggested in this topic. I am open to other suggestions though.... Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
YES YES YES YES YES IN THE AIR!!!
NO NO NO not in the air.
Before posting crap like that you should explain why and maybe take your time to see other people's opinions as they might make more sense than yours...It would disturb the balance too much, and make the LAW overpowered and abused.
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Negative. In reality yes. In soldat, you'd have to justify why, because soldat is not reality.
But isn't makinbg soldat more realistic and a better game is our job ?
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Negative. In reality yes. In soldat, you'd have to justify why, because soldat is not reality.
But isn't makinbg soldat more realistic and a better game is our job ?
The LAW definitely needs something changed about it; but not what has been suggested in this topic. I am open to other suggestions though.... Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
YES YES YES YES YES IN THE AIR!!!
NO NO NO not in the air.
Before posting crap like that you should explain why and maybe take your time to see other people's opinions as they might make more sense than yours...It would disturb the balance too much, and make the LAW overpowered and abused.
How the hell would you know that? Have you actually seen how it works? Were you around when it was possible the last time?
You could also tell us why it would be so overpowered :'( The startup phucks things up a bit now.
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How about reloading faster when sitting down or proning? since enesce sais something needs to be done with it.
I think it's fine as it is.
I think it would be cool if the shot went slower, so you could shoot over things, but I don't know how good idea that is, it would make it more of a close combat weapon.
Enesce, isn't it fine the way it is?
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Negative. In reality yes. In soldat, you'd have to justify why, because soldat is not reality.
But isn't makinbg soldat more realistic and a better game is our job ?
The LAW definitely needs something changed about it; but not what has been suggested in this topic. I am open to other suggestions though.... Reenable firing in air while proned perhaps?
YES YES YES YES YES IN THE AIR!!!
NO NO NO not in the air.
Before posting crap like that you should explain why and maybe take your time to see other people's opinions as they might make more sense than yours...It would disturb the balance too much, and make the LAW overpowered and abused.
How the hell would you know that? Have you actually seen how it works? Were you around when it was possible the last time?
You could also tell us why it would be so overpowered :'( The startup phucks things up a bit now.
Actually that's why the LAW falls down to simply become a defensive weapon, or a last resort-er that is simple as your "phuck"...
You simply hold it and whatever is coming at you is dead...It's fast, it's gt a good arc, and it's a 1 hitter even if not directly...
What I know I know from watching demo's and other footage from previous versions, there. Happy now?
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The LAW must not shoot slower missiles...I never saw any "SLOW" missile...