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Soldat Interface Mods & Mod Making => Modding Ideas / General Discussions => Topic started by: MattH on August 20, 2009, 05:42:20 pm
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Okay the plan for this (Not set in stone mind you) is to be a "quick" mod were I'll have UNSC Marines vs some type of covenant soldiers
Beta weapon pic:(http://i28.tinypic.com/330rczt.png)____(http://i28.tinypic.com/t50ylu.png)___HMG STAT:(http://i31.tinypic.com/2a62uty.png)
This isn't going to be some really "involved" mod, just something fun and easy for me to make.
So there we go, a rather humble start I must say.
P.S. Any help would be greatly appreciated, due to the fact that my life is kind of crazy right now.
Beta gosteks :ODST helmet:(http://i26.tinypic.com/i6fqfp.png)_(http://i25.tinypic.com/2r6hev9.png)__Eva helmet:(http://i29.tinypic.com/dxolr9.png)___Beta Covenant elite :(http://i32.tinypic.com/33tgqzc.png)
Beta Interface:(http://i27.tinypic.com/flbxnm.png) (thanks to numgun for letting me use his interface as a base for this) the interface will have a lowered opacity (it will be transparent) so as not to be obstructive.
And as a note, what should I use for the "jet" logo?
Beta Flamethrower:(http://i27.tinypic.com/v8ct8i.png)
Download Beta HERE: http://www.box.net/shared/ecps8gofni
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Are those Espadon's weapons..?
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They dont seem so:
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=35746.0
The difference is just in a few pixels, but it happens because they are doing one and the same weapon.
But they looked the same to me also at the first time, until i made a x800 zoom.
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Are those Espadon's weapons..?
Espadon didn't created Halo itself, so no reason to relate everything into one man. In same sizes, same weapons from same universe may always look similiar. Try do 30 AUG's by different people with identical sizes and colors. They will be similiar.
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Are those Espadon's weapons..?
No their not, but I can see how you could think that, but the fact is with pixel art that you only can make the same weapon look so unique from one person to another.
Back to the point, I'm thinking that for gosteks I'll make (http://i29.tinypic.com/2na037b.png) these.
and I'm not settled on what to make for the covenant.
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They're definitely original work and if anything look closer to Surf/Shiv's stuff.
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Have any pointers on making a Halo mod Espadon?
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I do, actually
No matter what you do, FINISH THE FRIGGIN MOD D:
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I'm gunna try my best ;D but I may need help with stuff (Sounds explosions etc...)
but really I'm not a big Halo fan, so any input on time lines and stuff like that would be greatly appreciated.
Sniper rifle:
I have decided to change the beam rifle for this
(http://i28.tinypic.com/732u51.png)
but it just doesn't look quite right (yes it needs coloring but every time a add color it looks to bright), suggestions anyone?
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Really nice, I love the weapons and the gostek is really well done.
If you find or make good sounds and some great bullets for ingame will be awesome
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I love da interface!
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okay, a pic of everything I have finished so far
(http://i27.tinypic.com/acaa00.png)
I am still fighting with the darn sniper, and as you can see, I made the Halo 3 fuel rod gun and also improved the plasma rifle, as well as "finished" the interface.
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I start liking your style, really. Reminds me wolfbr's but more as original pixelart variation (instead of his resize-edits).
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I start liking your style, really. Reminds me wolfbr's but more as original pixelart variation (instead of his resize-edits).
Thanks.
Oh yeah can I get a map maker to try making a map for me? (I would like to have a relatively experienced mapper If possible) I'm going to start sketching the map on paper then I'll upload it to the forums...
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If you need some fine gfx aligning, pm me, .
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What kind of covenant soldier should I make?
Elite
Brute
Grunt
etc...
Also, Help with sounds Pl0x.
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That's pretty decent looking.
Nice effort mate.
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Beta covenant Elite : (http://i32.tinypic.com/33tgqzc.png) (still in the "Crappy" stage, but hay, all great art starts wit ha single stroke [retard])
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Looks good so far. The sniper could improve a lot if you advanced the shading. Knife should be smaller imo and the weaponnames with big and small letters. The text you have right now is not looking good :)
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(http://i30.tinypic.com/2dkhkb7.png)
I'm not going to use that as the knife,I'm still deciding what to use.
*EDIT* #1 WILL SOMEONE HELP ME FIND SOUNDS?!?! PL0X?? :|
*EDIT* #2 PL0X?!?!!?
*EDIT* #3 .....*huddles in corner and cries*.....
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Try some sounds from serial killer or papasurf Halo mod. Also check your PM soon. ;-)
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Okay, "sounds" good ;D
I'll probably have this mod ready soon, only real problem I have now is bullets.
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If you want opinions, here's mine:
I played Halo, 1 and 2, won't bother with 3 cause I've learned it sucks.
And I just see way too many Halo mods, or derivations of Halo mods.
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<.<
You know, I've never played halo 3 either, but it doesnt mean it sucks instantly because its a sequel to another game you might have not liked.
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If we go by that, Halo 2 sucks gross on pc.
Ontopic:
Hey, Block, do you need gfx alignment?
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If we go by that, Halo 2 sucks gross on pc.
Ontopic:
Hey, Block, do you need gfx alignment?
as of yet, I haven't had any problems with alignment, but thanks.
Oh yeah and I have played Halo 3, and it owned, wasn't the best game I ever played but it still owned.
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I didn't say Halo 2 sucks, it's actually the best out of them.
But after playing a 1 lvl demo of 3 and watching trailers and such, I really got disgusted ;/
On topic: Did you try making a needler instead of the SMG?
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nah I love the SMG too much :D I don't really want to make more weapons (cuz then I would have to use lord Ivahn's app)
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Dont do the needler, unless it is for rambo bow, as making the alignment for it will be hard as hell.
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No harder then making alignment for the Plasma Rifle :P
Oh yeah I just remembered, I need explosions.
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Choose your
general explosion:
FRAG or PLASMA
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Plasma.
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You have clusters still.
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Choose your general explosion:
FRAG or PLASMA
does this mean that you were going to make one for me, or that you just wanted to know what kind I was aiming for?
Also which SMG looks better?
(http://i25.tinypic.com/j81av5.png)
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The 1st.
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Don't say that >:( (Jk)
But really, the sounds from the other Halo mods aren't even from halo...their just rips from modern weapons :(
Oh, and if some one would be kind enough to help me with the weapons .ini, that would be REALLY appreciated
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Dont touch the weapons.ini
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why not?
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why not?
You can. Just dont make it too distracting single when go to online play.
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That still doesn't help me :-\
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You don´t need to do the weapons.ini. You can work on a new balance but please store the file in an other folder so you can choose yourself from the beginning whether you want to play with a weapon mod or without.
@ the 2 weapons: Stick with the first one if you ask me.
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@ the 2 weapons: Stick with the first one if you ask me.
you really think? :-\ because the new one looks more like the Halo SMG if you ask me.
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You shouldn't ask others to choose if you already have a good idea which one you like more.
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Just a little update:
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2rzatdj.png)
as you can see I have been messing with the opacity on the Energy sword.
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Wow!
Nice Plasma Rifle!
The fuel rod gun is my favorite though.
If this gets finished, then I will play it. ;D
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Looks nice, but remove the image borders.
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Why do I see two marine handguns and no plasma pistol? :(
It's great anyway :D
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If you cant get right sounds, try find the most accurate from other games. They can be even edited in Audacity to be similiar. In some titles most painful is that you cant record sfx seperate from background noises because they are same pattern in sound options. More nightmare is when they are encoded into game or use infamous resources compression. I could even do in ex. TheSuffering by gfx, but sfx... So dont stop working on this mod even if not every part will be pure Halo. At these times in this community any single mod attempt is important.
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Why do I see two marine handguns and no plasma pistol? :(
It's great anyway :D
I let you all decide if I should make a plasma pistol or not.
Shall I pole it?
If you cant get right sounds, try find the most accurate from other games. They can be even edited in Audacity to be similiar. In some titles most painful is that you cant record sfx seperate from background noises because they are same pattern in sound options. More nightmare is when they are encoded into game or use infamous resources compression. I could even do in ex. TheSuffering by gfx, but sfx... So dont stop working on this mod even if not every part will be pure Halo. At these times in this community any single mod attempt is important.
Yes its sad to see how the modding community it dying.
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Yes its sad to see how the modding community it dying.
No, why? It's on life support. I've seen worster cases like total vegetable.
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*FacePalm*
I just remembered my main goal for this mod, I was going to make this a ODST mod (for the new halo coming out) so that means that I need to make some of the weapons over again, further more I think I'll study halo weapons better, for some reason I don't feel like I've "Captured" the look of Halo weapons.
Sorry for the bad grammar, I'm kind of tired, its been a long day for me.
So anyhow Look for an update soon.
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Make a handgun and plasma pistol if possible.
Like real Halo!
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Okay, I'm really happy with this next update
(http://i31.tinypic.com/dc7y3b.png)
as you can see, I did a bit more "studying" on halo weapons and the best ways to make them.
(note that the Carbine is not finished also that I am changing the name of this mod)
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Does not like the shading.
Old one is better.
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You are crazy
This is true
Old one is worser.
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You don't want opinions. So just let your work as secret and then after finishin' just release it.
You deny every single opinion and even after you ask for one.
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Not entirely true, but yes I do deny a lot of peoples opinions, but that's my right isn't it?
Not to mention that the modding section is sort of dying, so asking for opinions is a good way of reviving interest in modding.
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I can do a weapons.ini if you want. I have a knack for balancing.
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Do you play Halo?
If so then you got the job.
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Not entirely true, but yes I do deny a lot of peoples opinions, but that's my right isn't it?
Not to mention that the modding section is sort of dying, so asking for opinions is a good of reviving interest in modding.
Not entirely but you agree. Funny.
But you've got a point as I see. So there is nothing else what I could say about it.
Good luck.
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Thanks, I think that you and me don't see eye to eye on a lot of points, so I guess we can just agree to disagree.
On a lighter note, the Plasma Pistol is ready.
(http://i25.tinypic.com/mjoe21.png)
I think it looks fairly good.
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I played Halo 1 some 10 minutes ago again.
Could be the lightning settings i use, but i like the more shaded versions from you.
Also, i suggest that you place an alternative stuff folder, so the shading you like will be in interface-gfx folder, while the ones you dont like but look decent will be in the alternative folder, like SK did it in his mod.
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yo black death i cant see the pic it too dark for me
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Because Dairy, he want constructive criticism, not "I like - I want" dump. Wishes of these, who want something even not correct or not enough good because that looks decent for laic aren't criticism.
Plasma Pistol looks ok, even if some details. I have LCD and it's not too bright, so if it will be brighter may transform into plastic toy.
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Also, the law could be a bit sharper (law whole) and the sniper has an box like scope.
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Several things that you need to remember croat,
One is that the Halo weapons, changed from version to version,
And that the pics that I posted were taken from the Ingame weapons menu
which dulls the look of the weapons.
But I guess that I will post the extra weapons that I made, along with the rest of the mod.
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Do you play Halo?
If so then you got the job.
I have played it. So you want the guns to be as near to halo as possible i presume? Fuel rod cannon, difficult, battle rifle is impossible, but I can make it just a strong. Carbine will be the rapege.
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This is what you do, keep it balanced but try to stay true to halo as much as possible
(but try to keep the ammo count the same).
Good Luck.
Remade the minigun, (http://i31.tinypic.com/2q997uu.png) Updated sniper:(http://i26.tinypic.com/kqfl4.png)
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I like those new guns. Sniper looks pretty fresh with some lighter colors. : )
Also <3 plasma pistol. Pretty much perfect I say.
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I made it more perfecter :D (http://i28.tinypic.com/r02xdl.png) damn I love Gimp....
Hehe this is cool (http://i28.tinypic.com/2lj2k3l.png) I gotta try making more of these.
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You've just reached the limits of perfection, now work on those blasters.
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Is this going to be a nother boring mod, or are you going to make a good ini?
Weapons are really nice, but I wont play it without a nice ini.
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I'm planning on modding the weapons .ini so don't worry, oh and by the way what do you think of the smiley?
*EDIT* just to show ya'll where we stand:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2cxanbm.png)
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This is why weapons ini needs more customization...
So you can make the effects of different universes in mods. (Overheating Alien weapons)
Or Burst rifle.....
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The sniper could have an a bit darker tone, but as far as i see, they look decent (My refference (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/a/a1/1221018064_Sniper.png)).
Also, name them properly (pick them from here (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons)) to be sure that we are thinking of the same weapons.
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It will be hard to the the ini without the images. I need to see it in action to make it proper.
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Imo those strong colors (red & blue) of the bars in the interface look bad.
Maybe try something more single colored or some lighter fruity colors like lime green-yellowish, purple, light blue, orange ect. Try white incase those fail.
Then the jet bar is too similar with the jet interface box color.
Btw lol @ dual wield smily.
The best thing I loved in Halo was the melee attack with the plasma pistol. Everytime I did it, I felt like screaming "FIST OF FUURYYY!!!!" *CCRRRUUUSHH*
Awesome times. I should probably play halo1 on easy and do only that the whole game. :D
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Yes I think I'll set the opacity down on the bars, that will probably fix the problem.
Oh yeah, and you can't see the jet bar in the pic above (because there is no jet on that map).
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*EDIT* just to show ya'll where we stand:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2cxanbm.png)
Awesome. My best wish I could remade Lazarus like that. :o
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If you tryed a form of shading (other then pillow shading) and also sized your weapons down a bit, it could look a lot like this mod.
(http://i32.tinypic.com/20pee7l.png)
Can someone tell me the name of the new handguns, I cant find it anywhere.
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Halo 3 handguns are M6Gs?
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No the ODST handguns...I can't find the name.
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It's called M6C/SOCOM or M6S.
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Thanks a million.
BTW where did you find out? because I looked for a long time and couldn't find it.
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Il start work on the .ini this weekend, busy with school and SMC. Can you upload the mod to like file front so i can use it to make .ini?
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Although I could give you a download, I don't see why you would need it, the weapons follow halo standards and settings.
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IS number 4 the burst rifle? (Havent played halo in a while)
You could simulate that with low ammo, and fast reload..... But then you'd need a limited ammo script, otherwise it'd be too over powered.
The turret would best fit the aliens (covenant or whatever) cause its the only weapon you can make overheat.
Now that I think of it.... The burst rifle is the one with the scope!
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I tryed giving the BR55 a 3 shot mag with no reload time and a small fire interval, and it works, but the problem is that you can never run out of ammo and if you stop in the middle of the burst, it messes your aim up.
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Just make a 3 bullet png. Ill make it strong enough per shot. And ok, I'll do what I can, I just like to see how it look. I do get your point though.
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Thanks, shard and good idea for the bullets (and as a gift I guess I'll give you a copy of this mod before I put it up for open Downloading ;) )
oh and Espadon Kan I Pweez Haz ur textures from HLT for this mod :-\ ?
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When I do this I want more work on my guns too, please.
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Yep yep....damn sorry, I keep forgetting to make you the rest of your weapons, the problem is the limited information that you can get out from Weapons Gfx as to how the weapon looks.
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If you're talking about map textures, those aren't HLT property, they're from surf's UT Ubermod.
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Oh, do I contact him thru PM or should I do it another way?
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I sent you like 3 pms about the guns
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Yes you did.
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Updated Plasma Rifle: (http://i32.tinypic.com/258niie.png)
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Looks epic o___o.
*Posts* ;3
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I guess beta requests will be open now, so ya'll can start asking now if you want a copy.
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I would love to try this mod!
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Gief so i can bitch about the alignment.
^ω^
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Good I want you to, that's the point of having a "closed" Beta. :P
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I guess beta requests will be open now, so ya'll can start asking now if you want a copy.
Sorry, but I'm new here.
How should I request a copy?
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just by saying (on this thread) that you would like a copy of the Beta :P
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I would like a copy of the Beta.
:)
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I wouldn't mind beta testing it B)
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I would like to test, but maybe I'm busy those days.
I don't mind if you send me just the .ini or if you have png bullets or something like that would be great to check it too
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I'll be sending the beta out in a few weeks, as there are still a few things I would like to finish, so for now you all can still request (which will be a big help to me to know how many people are interested).
Thanks.
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I definitely need one. Do you know how hard it is too do a weapons.ini without seeing it with the image? Doable, but a pain. Thats why I asked before.
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Also, if i think some ingame-gfxes arent fine, ill modify them and send them back as a suggestion how they would look nicer (and be aligned).
Gief beta. >:U
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I definitely need one. Do you know how hard it is too do a weapons.ini without seeing it with the image? Doable, but a pain. Thats why I asked before.
Do you know how hard it is making weapons interface that look nice with only the weapons Gfx as a guide? :P but yeah you will be the first to receive a copy.
Also, if i think some ingame-gfxes arent fine, ill modify them and send them back as a suggestion how they would look nicer (and be aligned).
Gief beta. >:U
go right ahead.
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Hey, shard:
(http://i32.tinypic.com/24zvlfl.jpg)
Here you have your interface, if you want, i can rip them out of block deaths screenshots and make by them a fully working, nice looking ingame gfx, for the sounds you would have to search by yourself.
Shard has what he has to reference for the weapons.ini, whos next?
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oh and Espadon Kan I Pweez Haz ur textures from HLT for this mod :-\ ?
Halo textures? (http://www.mediafire.com/file/go4zztc1jm1/Halo Textures.zip)
2 examples:
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Thanks.
that will help ;D
Did you want a beta copy as well?
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Do I want a beta copy...
sure.
But just to let you know, testing would not be high on my to-do list.
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Shard, do .ini without looking to the images is easy, you don't have to!
And don't lie what you want is play the mod, not 1st time I seen this
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Shard, do .ini without looking to the images is easy, you don't have to!
And don't lie what you want is play the mod, not 1st time I seen this
I have one thing to say to you: DO NOT QUESTION MY METHODS!
Besides that, I don't use mods on soldat usualy. All I need is SoldatEnchanced. A few mods are nice, but they don't do anything for me.
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Calm down, do whatever you want but I'm telling you that you don't need it and would be for something... let me see who you think would give you a advice... someone who joined few time ago, or someone who is a kind of veteran and has made some mods?
Anyone who knows just a bit of modding could tell you that you don't need images to do that, and you have them posted on 1st page, it won't modify the ini those images, and you should need Halo to make the correct balance, as ODST is not out (I think) you could see how other Halos are.
Next time try to be more polite because as far as I know those CAPS, mean crying, and that means that you don't really know how to talk with a person who is telling you the truth
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Okay guys lets not flame, I'll be sending shard a copy of the weapons soon, just to make it "easy" for him, after all, he has been very patient with me over the last few months, because I was suppose to make him some weapons and I'm still not finished with them yet.
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The Closed beta will be released as soon as I finish the gosteks, which I am currently working on.
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It's possible to do .ini without having mod, but when you have all files and can see it in-game, you can not only make better weapon mod balance but adjust it to gameplay which is created by overall layout of mod in practice, all files and atmosphere.
Shard is probably some sort of guy who need test gameplay first to see what balance for mod is best, not just see poster or teaser.
Also, if still possible, I would like a copy of the beta too. ;-)
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It's possible to do .ini without having mod, but when you have all files and can see it in-game, you can not only make better weapon mod balance but adjust it to gameplay which is created by overall layout of mod in practice, all files and atmosphere.
Shard is probably some sort of guy who need test gameplay first to see what balance for mod is best, not just see poster or teaser.
Also, if still possible, I would like a copy of the beta too. ;-)
Youuuuuuu got it ;)
Something I wanted to say:
I have been working on making Halo Brute Gosteks for a Long time now, and have wasted numerous hours trying to get them to look right, so here's an offer for all you modders out there, If you make a set of brute gosteks and they look (reasonably) good then I can post the beta copy of the mod, and to express my thanks I will also send you a little "surprise" pack with some "other" little Halo goodies. :)
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Would be nice to see those brutes... and funny to see sentinels :P
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Would be nice to see those brutes... and funny to see sentinels :P
Sentinels...Lol the only way I could think of making them is just by erasing everything but kalata.bmp :)
Just because a new page has been started I shall reiterate:
HALO ODST CONTEST:
Something I wanted to say:
I have been working on making Halo Brute Gosteks for a Long time now, and have wasted numerous hours trying to get them to look right, so here's an offer for all you modders out there, If you make a set of brute gosteks and they look (reasonably) good then I can post the beta copy of the mod, and to express my thanks I will also send you a little "surprise" pack with some "other" little Halo goodies. :)
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I'm terribly sorry for my halo noobishness, but what is a brute?
I have only played the first halo online, and never played the campaign.
Here was all that I could find, but it didn't give me any good reference images...
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This is a Brute (http://i36.tinypic.com/1zg8ak5.png) so now you know :P
(just as a note part of the gift for making the brute is "extra" weapons for the mod)
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But brutes are bigger that normale elites, right?
BTW try to make a good grayscaled texture for gosteks, I see that the gosteks that you have are really elaborated, I hope they'll be similar :]
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But brutes are bigger that normale elites, right?
BTW try to make a good grayscaled texture for gosteks, I see that the gosteks that you have are really elaborated, I hope they'll be similar :]
yes brutes are bigger then Elites, but you cant make gosteks taller so you just have to live with it unfortunately.
and I have made grayscales for them, its just I can't get the look right.
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post a screenshot and we will try to help
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Their kind of bad, because I've just been randomly trying different things to get them to look right....
I guess I could post a pic, but I don't see how that will help much.
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Well If you post a pic we can tell you whats wrong
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Why not make The Flood gosteks instead of brutes? Brutes will look ridiculous considering the scale difference. The Flood are shorter and would actually look cool for zombie mods and what not.
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How much they are bigger? Or which bugs prevents them to look damn right?
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Why not make The Flood gosteks instead of brutes? Brutes will look ridiculous considering the scale difference. The Flood are shorter and would actually look cool for zombie mods and what not.
Is there even any flood in Halo ODST?
How much they are bigger? Or which bugs prevents them to look damn right?
The fact is (at least as far as I know) that goseks cant be made any taller then they already are.
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So make thinner alpha gosteks and buffer bravo. You still have some nice space in head, shoulders and arms area.
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I kind of was hoping that someone else would try to make a set of brute gosteks, there is a reward yah know....
because I've scraped like 2 sets that failed already and I'm kind of getting sick of making gosteks(Its like my least favorite part of modding).
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I can make good gosteks in terms of shape but not taller x2 times. Even Taehl's Alien had some issues with height and flaws in it (some static parts for different sides). You can abuse limits and make 2x taller things but with less interactivity - if we still talking about online gosteks without modified animations and because of that, sometimes I call them skins because they are just different gfx skin for the same default object (in ex. Soldat\Objects\gostek.po) or animation (in ex. Soldat\Anims\stoi.poa).
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You don't have to make them any taller than normal, but if you could try to make some brute gosteks I would be SOOOOOOOooo Happy. :)
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Well I didn't know you were focused ENTIRELY on ODST, still, brutes won't look anything like normal.
Can't you settle for other aliens?
You could do other things as side projects, cause there's too many Halo mods, if you want to be original try something different than the standards.
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No one has ever made brute gosteks before as far as I know, so that's fairly "original".
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theres really no point in trying to follow the correct size of the brutes. id say, just screw the size, and do the gostek. The shocck troopers won't look nice if resized accordingly, they'd look scrawny, worst of all, theres too much loss in detail.
You can't always have what you want in a mod, you would need to sacrifice things in order to make it work, thats what i always follow when doing gosteks.
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Okay now that Scout has made me a good set of Gosteks (thanks a million ;))
I will be sending the beta out soon (I still need to finish some stuff as well as compile the beta folder)
So be on the look out cause THA BETA IZ HEADED UR WAI!
-The management.
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Where will the download be
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i watn beta
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OFFTOPIC: The Halo Fan, go rob an old lady AND GET A FRICKEN XBOX 360!
You watch Youtube videos of Halo? LMAO Congratz!
Ontopic: Why do you need a beta for a mod? O.o BUGZ? Oh noes!
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Offtopic: no one toll you to read me stuff if you didn't want to.ps.your an a**h***. >:(
Ontopic: it looks good so far and i like it period . :|
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Ontopic: Why do you need a beta for a mod? O.o BUGZ? Oh noes!
For some reason, people have started to think that drawing guns is an art that demands more respect than was previously offered to them. They lavish in the extra attention and thread posts that are attracted by inconveniencing the people who don't care about anything but gun pictures (that is to say, the bulk of their little 'audience')
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(http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3316/3208186255_819247cfa6.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHpf4uEX7O_NKEu5AbkAUCqTgFfqQ)
Bring on the tiny guns!
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Small gun are not cool. bth don't you guys have school :|!
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Get back on track.
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Halo fan please stop trolling and spamming on my thread.
As for the rest of you, the beta will be realeased (hopefully) tomorrow.
I'm thinking that I will just post a download link on the thread for all to access, its just easier that way.
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I'm back and thing didn't work out the i though it would. And sorry if i'm spaming you tread matt. Also yes the beta is soooo close to comeing out wooohooo yeah. and if this is a spam then sorry because i don't reley know what a spam is. i'm not the brightest thing out there. :|
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Teh Beta, haz come.....
Download: http://www.box.net/shared/ecps8gofni
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yyyyyyyyeesssssssss (sorry if spam agian)
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Now its an open beta.
Ill check it out later, busy now.
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No sounds, no .ini, no need to have it.
I thought you were releasing at least .ini, for just a graphics mod its ok, but we already have lots of them, Im sure that other people is loving it but not me.
I hope full mod will include those things
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yes the full mod will include .ini and sounds, the reason that the sounds haven't been added to the beta it I haven't finished compiling them yet.
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Tbh, I have been busy at school, so have yet to start the .ini . I'll get to work soon. I am laconic when it comes to this stuff :P
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Nice try, but laconic is not the word you're looking for.
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Lazy, or a procrastinator might be better words? ;D no rush though take your time, after all life comes first....for some people anyway....
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This mod is very promising and anticipated, but yes you should see to your education before soldat modding. And I think procrastination is the right word for it.
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In-game gfx are your real modding "trademark", MattH. Even without sounds they fit theme perfectly in Soldat realms. I will list any flaws later because first tests are never objective to reality. Or maybe try alternate set of gosteks, because while alpha looks ok, the brute seem sketchy and unfinished for me. I will try do it in my way but with setup to actual alpha.
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Please take your time when thinking over any flaws, this will be much appreciated
as will any pointers with gosteks.
Thanks.
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Battle rifle isn't in ODST. Looks great.
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Whoa! Gnoblar, long time no see!
And yes the battle rifle isn't in ODST, but it came out so good that I couldn't help but add it....
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The battle rifle is the bread and butter of a halo player! Why ain't it in ODST?
How isnt Laconic the right word?
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I think the Dual M6S's is a little too big and if espadon is willing you can ask him for help on the graphics for the brute shot granade. Other than that it's really great! :)
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There's no "brute shot" in this mod, but there is a Fuel rod cannon...and not all the bullets are finished.
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Ok and sorry i ment to say fuel rod.
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I personally think the in-game graphics for the shotgun are too long. It's almost as long as the sniper. It feels kinda unproportional
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I personally think the in-game graphics for the shotgun are too long. It's almost as long as the sniper :(. It feels so unproportional
That is a good point, defiantly something that I will fix for the final release.
you see those are the kind of comments that help me.
Thanks.
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Okay, I was pretty wrong. I decided to check out some chart for weapon lengths, and you've got it down pretty good. The shotgun may be too long by a pixel, but I frankly don't care if it stays that way.
I'm assuming you know the muzzle shots are not in alignment.
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::)....
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^Eh, well to all the Halo junkies out there, I was wrong in my first critique [shrug]^
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No, you were right.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/4/44/UNSCWeaponChart.gif
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I think you should brighten the Plasma Rifle bullets, basically most weapons need to brighten, and I know you said the bullets aren't done but I'm just saying.
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Hey, I have been meaning to test this ever sense you told me about it... I better download it.
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The battle rifle is proving hard to do. Do you want it to be a full auto, or the 12 shot burst? I will do a rough version of all guns and send it to you, then tell me what you think. Half way done.
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You don't need to mess with the battle rifle that much, just keep it balanced.
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I agree that the shotgun is too long.
Also, the handguns are WAY too big.
And yeah, basically all plasma/energetic/etc bullets need to be brightened a lot.
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Files and preview attached. Based on picture you posted earlier. Made into Gosteks-gfx instead of Team2 for easier viewing in-game. Just tell me if you want any specific headgears to add.
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Whoa! those look awesome!
but just one thing, the neck is Really long.
Oh yeah i guess this means that I'm going to send you the Halo ODST extras pack ;)
(as for head gear I'll get back to you in a little while)
*EDIT*
another problem is that they are grayscaled.
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I have a question. Are you going to keep or use the eliets in the game?
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No, mainly because there are no elites in Halo 3 ODST (crappy I know but that's just the way it is)
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Ok, thanks.And sence there is alote more weapons in the odst game are you going to make a modifiy menu like in the Eradication-wars mod?
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He is not going to in answer to your question.
Edit:
I might as well say this for him:
A weapon's choosing external program thing takes plenty of extra time, and he's made a point to wrap this project up soon. Also, making every weapon from Halo ODST is not what he has in mind.
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Maybe he might answer tomorrow.
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but just one thing, the neck is Really long.
*EDIT*
another problem is that they are grayscaled.
Well, neck has same size (of course in it's own scale) as on picture but is mounted little above not directly from inside of torso, so may look strange. Plus, if neck will be shorter head will be too big. I initially made him with colors because easier to catch details as they are similiar colors like head. If they are supposed be grayscale this easy to re-do, even in Infraview. Also they may be half-grayscale like scout did (grayscale body with color elements. As for helmets and stuff they look similar or different in ODST? For ex. like these ones http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Brutes
Ok, I decapitated him 2 pixels in height. Dont look too much for other body parts, because I still need increase contrast after conversion, also bright up other details.
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Maybe he might answer tomorrow.
well, its tomorrow, and I shall answer.
and my answer will be quite simple
A weapon's choosing external program thing takes plenty of extra time, and he's made a point to wrap this project up soon. Also, making every weapon from Halo ODST is not what he has in mind.
but just one thing, the neck is Really long.
*EDIT*
another problem is that they are grayscaled.
Well, neck has same size (of course in it's own scale) as on picture but is mounted little above not directly from inside of torso, so may look strange. Plus, if neck will be shorter head will be too big. I initially made him with colors because easier to catch details as they are similiar colors like head. If they are supposed be grayscale this easy to re-do, even in Infraview. Also they may be half-grayscale like scout did (grayscale body with color elements. As for helmets and stuff they look similar or different in ODST? For ex. like these ones http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Brutes
Ok, I decapitated him 2 pixels in height. Dont look too much for other body parts, because I still need increase contrast after conversion, also bright up other details.
Mmk... take your time, just one more thing though.
its the shoulders they come to too much of a "point"....just sayin.
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Mmk... take your time, just one more thing though.
its the shoulders they come to too much of a "point"....just sayin.
Do you can explain more precisely? And what with some helmets because actual one dont have any... not with that type of armor.
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well here are the helmets that Scout made for me: Stalker, Major, chieftain and bodyguard.
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I have a question. Are you going to keep or use the eliets in the game?
In Addition to this are you going in to make Hunters like in the game and if your not going to make anything other than the Brutes and spratans then tell me so i can stop because I'm watching the playthrough now.
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but just one thing, the neck is Really long.
*EDIT*
another problem is that they are grayscaled.
Well, neck has same size (of course in it's own scale) as on picture but is mounted little above not directly from inside of torso, so may look strange. Plus, if neck will be shorter head will be too big. I initially made him with colors because easier to catch details as they are similiar colors like head. If they are supposed be grayscale this easy to re-do, even in Infraview. Also they may be half-grayscale like scout did (grayscale body with color elements. As for helmets and stuff they look similar or different in ODST? For ex. like these ones http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Brutes
Ok, I decapitated him 2 pixels in height. Dont look too much for other body parts, because I still need increase contrast after conversion, also bright up other details.
this was exactly why i never tried making 'oversized' gosteks
alot of complications come to play when your trying to alter the very size and SHAPE of the gosteks.
Brutes tend to have small heads, and they also tend to slouch forward( you could try to move the head forward to get that effect, but this is not possible on the mirrored side, since gostek alignments are all fixed), maybe because of their size of their bodys.
This principle also applies for elites, 'cept that the bodys are smaller and they're the rough height of an average person.
Even trying to edit the size of the shoulders, let alone the body would have serious issues. you could end up having a dis-proportioned brute with wide/huge shoulders and stubby legs.
I have a question. Are you going to keep or use the eliets in the game?
In Addition to this are you going in to make Hunters like in the game and if your not going to make anything other than the Brutes and spratans then tell me so i can stop because I'm watching the playthrough now.
theres still ALOT of speculation about this, don't expect an answer so soon, since its just a beta test. Its up to MattH to make the decisions and not me- im just helping him make the gosteks.
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Ok thanks scout
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Just thinking, should I remake the Interface to look more like a Halo 1, 2 interface.
Because one of the things that has sort of been bugging me is that the interface doesn't look like something from halo.
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I agree that your current interface does'nt fit really well with the mod.
you might want to try doing the reg'd interface of ODST. it would be a nice addition to the mod. If not make a simplified version of it.
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like i said i've bin watching some playthroughs and the interface isn't much to see.
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I'm thinking that I'll make a interface more like the Halo 1 interface (because its easier then Halo 3 or ODST) but I'll add some more "flair" to it.
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That could be cool. 8) Can't wait to see it. ;D
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this was exactly why i never tried making 'oversized' gosteks
alot of complications come to play when your trying to alter the very size and SHAPE of the gosteks.
Brutes tend to have small heads, and they also tend to slouch forward( you could try to move the head forward to get that effect, but this is not possible on the mirrored side, since gostek alignments are all fixed), maybe because of their size of their bodys.
Even trying to edit the size of the shoulders, let alone the body would have serious issues. you could end up having a dis-proportioned brute with wide/huge shoulders and stubby legs.
There's no such thing as oversized gosteks, because they have limits (16x16). They may looks different, as even default gosteks are edited ones (EVO, not classic). Size is still the same, shape is determined by animations and objects, so this only gfx editing, imitation to be different. Brutes aren't facing only forwad from what I saw and this can be done in easier way than exceeding animation frame (for ex. by packing more body in same area, describing some details and shapes more than another). No need to teach me about possiblilities and proportions because I tried many things like these before, so I know them. Especially shoulders ( <-' = /,-> ) and legs symmetry. Since there's no rush or hurry in release of this mod I will try every aspect of brutes for gostek to optimal effect. They are just my alternate attempt, not considered as primary project for this mod instead of your actual ones.
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Her/She is basicly right dud. There not alway slouching farward. It's rely only the neck
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You don't need to mess with the battle rifle that much, just keep it balanced.
That doesn't help, at all. More specific plz.
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Keep the real ammo count from Halo, other then that I leave the rest up to you.
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this was exactly why i never tried making 'oversized' gosteks
alot of complications come to play when your trying to alter the very size and SHAPE of the gosteks.
Brutes tend to have small heads, and they also tend to slouch forward( you could try to move the head forward to get that effect, but this is not possible on the mirrored side, since gostek alignments are all fixed), maybe because of their size of their bodys.
Even trying to edit the size of the shoulders, let alone the body would have serious issues. you could end up having a dis-proportioned brute with wide/huge shoulders and stubby legs.
There's no such thing as oversized gosteks, because they have limits (16x16). They may looks different, as even default gosteks are edited ones (EVO, not classic). Size is still the same, shape is determined by animations and objects, so this only gfx editing, imitation to be different. Brutes aren't facing only forwad from what I saw and this can be done in easier way than exceeding animation frame (for ex. by packing more body in same area, describing some details and shapes more than another). No need to teach me about possiblilities and proportions because I tried many things like these before, so I know them. Especially shoulders ( <-' = /,-> ) and legs symmetry. Since there's no rush or hurry in release of this mod I will try every aspect of brutes for gostek to optimal effect. They are just my alternate attempt, not considered as primary project for this mod instead of your actual ones.
as i said before, i only focus in accuracy(while keeping the size limits the same) for gosteks. so it does'nt really matter if you have your own ways in modding. I respect that.
Her/She is basicly right dud. There not alway slouching farward. It's rely only the neck
Fyi, im not much of a halo player, so you'll have to at least look over the fact that i don't know much about brutes? Since mainly ive just been relying more on brute screenshots.
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Ok i understand.
From: October 09, 2009, 01:51:11 pm
Is it OK to talk about the interface and if your gooding to update it? Because it looks great and i rely want to know if your making it look better! ;D :D
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Keep the real ammo count from Halo, other then that I leave the rest up to you.
OK, so you have absolutely no grounds for saying i fucked it up if its not right.
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Keep the real ammo count from Halo, other then that I leave the rest up to you.
OK, so you have absolutely no grounds for saying i f**ked it up if its not right.
WUTEVER. ;)
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OKAI. Btw HAI MUSHI MUSHI! I will have the wm finished in 2 weeks. Rush me and you will get a piece of over/under powered shityfaggotload of weapons
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Er are you trying to threaten him? That's kinda lame.
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Protip: DIY.
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why is this halo odst mod thread transforming to a argument just along so you can get this mod off you back duds! >:(
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I could do the Weapons.ini faster :|. There's no balancing involved. Just make the guns to mimic their Halo counterparts and there you have it. But just so I don't provoke you, I'm not even considering doing the WM.
I suppose the only balancing would be in the realistic WM
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Question for matt which hair style is which helmet and can you give us an update of what you have so far in this mod.
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Offtopic- You do know that Matt has no obligation to answer this question since he's working at his own pace right? Patience is the key to success.
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Gostek head styles are as follows-
Hairstyles-
Army- None
Norm- Major Helm
Punk- Stalker Helm
Dred- BodyGuard Helm
Mr.T- Chieftian Helm
headgear-
Cap- NOT used
Helmet- NOT used
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I haven't been able to work on the mod all that much since the beta was released
so there hasn't been much change from the copy you now have, the main reason for this is because I've been having a TON of family "issues" lately and for me real life comes first.
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real life comes first
Should be that way for all of us :| unless technology/virtual stuff is your line of work :P
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Blacksheepboy is right you can't help if you don't work on the mod sometimes an obstacle gets in front of you and you have to move it first. Besides it's just a game mod we can wait. ;D
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Is thread has bin sleeping for far to long matt now you just avoiding this thread.lol.
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Sorry, but things are really picking up here, and I have little time for modding...
(just to let you understand, right now my brother is going to get married and my mother is going in for a operation, also my last brother is in flight school)
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Wedding ceremonies rock. I know I'll never forget my brother's wedding.
Hope you're mother gets well, whatever the cause may be.
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Sorry dud I didn't know please take you time. :'( Always smile in some bad situations :)
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I can get hold of some Halo sounds if you need any by any chance, I have a few WAVs saved.
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That is one of my biggest problems, any sounds that you could send me would be greatly appreciated.
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This mod is looking gorgeous MattH. I look forward to some maps?
Those sound will be with you in about a week. Sorry for the delay mate, but it's the best I can do.
I might, MIGHT get them sooner, but don't hold your breath.
I have SMG, Battle Rifle, AssaultR, PlasmaR/P, Sniper, Needler and some others.
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Judging on how crazy my life has been (and because its not going to calm down anytime soon) I'm guessing that this is going to be my last mod of any consequence....
Just as a note: my brother is getting married soon, after that I hopefully will be able to finish the mod.
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Okay, brother is married and thanksgiving is OVAH, so Naou I haz 2 Kik myself and finish this mod!!!!
TO DO LIST
-Make new interface
-Finish compiling the sound files
-Get some motivation
-Get finished WITH THE DARN MOD SO I CAN BE FREE!
A NOTE
Thank you all, for not bothering me about the mod while I was away, but feel free to bother me now.
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ok...hmmmm wating for sound
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Yay. the halo odst mod is back on track. ;D
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Yes I still am working on this mod...but very slowly, mainly because finding SFX for Halo is next to impossible :-\
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This mod is great so far, I tried the beta except for one thing, where is the weapons.ini file?
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I'm about convinced that I will never be able to find any good sound files for this mod...
But work on the interface will continue slowly.
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lol lovee the mod........ but like SK's halo mod the weapons are more bolder... but i liek the battle rifle, SK's battle rifle didnt have that cut edge in there. 4/5 cuz dont like the weapons sizes no offense. ;D
From: January 04, 2010, 11:39:31 pm
Sorry for the double post but i think you can ask SK for sounds jus upgrade a little ;D
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This mod is great, well, so far the beta is, I like messing around with my own weapons.ini file i made for it. Although, is the Assault rifle meant for Halo3 or Halo1? cuz i really hate the first one...well, anyways, It's great!
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I think that the plasma rifle should fit the other weapons colors, too, since it is very outstanding in its blue color. I don´t tell you to use the same green colors as on the other weapons but to find a color fitting both blue and green.
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Wasn't gnobler soppose to give matt sound or WAVs. :|
I can get hold of some Halo sounds if you need any by any chance, I have a few WAVs saved.
24 days later......
This mod is looking gorgeous MattH. I look forward to some maps?
Those sound will be with you in about a week. Sorry for the delay mate, but it's the best I can do.
I might, MIGHT get them sooner, but don't hold your breath.
I have SMG, Battle Rifle, AssaultR, PlasmaR/P, Sniper, Needler and some others.
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Judging by the Assault Rifle, if you dont want to, it could use a little bit of a pixel change, The colours dont really match. But this is just a piece of advice, so if you dont want to, then dont. :D
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Matt i think its update time.
Tell us what you have so far if you can.
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True, so true, we could use a little update. Also I wonder is it against the rules to merge diffrent mods together and release it with credits to the owners of the original mod......
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This mod is great so far, I tried the beta except for one thing, where is the weapons.ini file?
Aww crap, I knew I forgot something. I'll get to work on that soon. I think I have 3 guns done?
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I have my fairly accurate weapons.ini file but everytime I try to upload it, it just wont load the page. Dam. I'll upload it on rapidshare or filefront or something.
From: January 23, 2010, 01:30:04 pm
Here's the link http://www.filefront.com/15410919/weapons.ini (http://www.filefront.com/15410919/weapons.ini). You could tweak it if you dont like it. Here's some changes in this file: BR is Halo3.5 styled. Plasma rilfe, Plasma pistol and Turret cannot reload. Sniper is a little bit overpowered( one hit kills). Shot gun is H3, AR is H3, SMG needs to be tweaked a little and some other stuff
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Uhh, ok, beat me to it. I'll do one if you still want me to anyway.
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sure. Im just saying you could use it. And for the ppl playing the beta, I suggest you play with this one for now.
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zzzzZZZZZ [retard] Matt are you there this tread is sleeping too long im starting too think your not going to finish it. :|
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No need to rush ppl here friend, he could take his time,although i never made a mod myself, when i tried to make a weapon pixel by pixel, i gave up after 2 minutes in frustration.... ::) . So I suppose he's 90% done? All i can say is that, MATT, your ODST mod could be the best mod ever "released" if HLT doesnt get released. Yes i know HLT is not going to be released but who knows? Maybe Espadon is making it but hiding the progress? :)
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HLT is dead for sure.
Matt has some serious rl issues so he isnt working on ANY mod.
Learn that.
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ooooohh, that's disappointing, two halo mods i have waited for, all terminated? rofl.
HLT is dead for sure.
Matt has some serious rl issues so he isnt working on ANY mod.
Learn that.
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Message removed -- do not hijack others' thread.
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I....AM.....ALIVE!!!!!!!
Wow, its been a long time since I've been logged in ::)
Just want to say that this mod isn't "dead" but I have been really busy lately...
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MattH is alive yay but about you life problems you should fix that a little more if its still there but if you know its been a while login and give an update when you see post on your thread ok i was getting scard that there was going to be 2 undone halo mods [retard] it would make me sad a little :'(
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(Note to Espadon:Ok,I have that noted) Yay, i thought it was over and like Halo mods are done for. Pls dont give up on this one cuz this one has ODST in it ;D
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Rofl, 2 weeks and no reply, I would like to know how the mod is going though. But im not trying to rush anyone here. Just curious after 2 weeks that i just happened to check the forums. :)
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Same here
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so far.... I found 1 more sound file and did a little work on the new interface-gfx, other then that don't hold your breath for this mod, its going to take me some time :-\
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awww, that sux. *sigh* guess I'll wait then :-\
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Modders arent machines, learn that.
Noone can make a good mod just so, they need time to make and test it + they cant make a mod "just so"
And you obviously ignore what matt said.
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hmm. Well that is true... :-\ Guess i'll have to learn something.....
Modders arent machines, learn that.
Noone can make a good mod just so, they need time to make and test it + they cant make a mod "just so"
And you obviously ignore what matt said.
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this mod sleeped so long it reached the second page is this mod going to cease to continue
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You need to realize and understand that most ambitious mods DON'T work out, because of life issues and other commitments.
As right now, my gosteks mods have been ceased for abit because of my school exams, and work, other times you just don't want to do it at all, and for most part, distractions play alot of it too( games and stuff ) .. We're all human.
Unless a mod is actually being worked on by a TEAM, its quite unlikely that a huge mod would take less than a fortnight to be completed. At the most you can do now, is just to move on, hope for the better and quit pushing the modder to deliver.
If you want sometime to ACTUALLY be done, do it yourself, or even better, work with the modder in a team so that you can give him a motivation boost.
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i understand but I'm just asking if its going to stop continuing
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Not officially, I have just been REALLY busy lately...
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now i know please when you see week or 2 say something befor it goes on second page :D
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sooooo....is this.....?
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sooooo....is this.....?
Not dead, but I've about given up trying to find sfx for it.
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i have all most all halo mods i could find for soldat i can give you some sounds .