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Soldat Talk => Need Help? Report Bugs! => Topic started by: Cube2 on October 21, 2009, 05:43:29 pm
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Hey, too bad for some reason I cannot login with my real account "Cube", but there seems to be an error, maybe some admin can fix this? Thanks.
Now back to the topic.
Soldat, as much as we all love it, has some bugs. This is a list, in no particular order, of bugs that are the most annoying ones when just trying to have a decent massacre at Soldat ;)
1. Barrett-no-instant-zoom: That happens randomly (at least appears to me) and annoys the crap out of me, plus I missed a couple kills because of that. You lie down, or crouch, and expect the Barrett to do its infamous zoom - but it doesn't happen! Then you have to get up, and try it once again - or even more times until the scope is finally being used.
2. Double-throw-weapon-away: You throw away one weapon, time it perfectly to pick up that one lying on the ground - and what happens? Your gostek just drops that second one right away as well! This possibly happens if you press the F button for too long, but seriously, even barely tapping it produces this bug. Hope y'all know what I'm talking about.
3. Scoreboard-empty-spots: This one's a bummer! Usually in Deathmatches (never happend during CTF) when you press F1 to view your awesome Kill:Death ratio - your entry is just a blank line! Often many more people on that server are just left out. Annoying annoying annoying!
4. Filters-of-serverlist-not-working: I select that I just want Weapon Mod servers and what happens? I get all servers. Happens with other filters as well. Does that just happen to me or is that normal?
5. Non-English-Alphabet-not-working: I often write with German Umlauts, Polish special letters, or even in Russian or Hebrew - while Russian works, the German Umlauts just produce a "?" sign insteäd öf this kindä stüff.
6. Barrett-shot-ready-or-not?: Yeah, you might not really call that a bug, rather a suggestion or obversation (and might be easily fixed with custom UI) - The Barrett is an accurate weapon. Between each shot, you have to wait until this little slider goes all the way to the left. For uber-exact heatshot timing however, the slider itself is way to thick, and you kinda have to guess the middle of it and look when it reaches the left end. I'm not sure of an alternative, but there's gotta be something possible.
7. Most-random-"kling"sound-bug-ever: Hard to describe this. Every once in a while, possibly when I push a wrong combination of buttons at the same time or something (don't know, just speculation), Soldat makes (better: Windows makes) that KLING sound, like a message pops up (which it doesn't, just the sound comes up), and from then on I cannot type anything in soldat, cannot use taunts, no votes, no scoreboard, and every couple seconds that sound comes again. Truly mysterious and scary, I don't really know what it is.
8. Shot-offset-right-after-reload: Sometimes if you shoot immediately after reloading is done (for example, if you kept holding fire button when it was reloading) - your shot will be a bit offset. This is caused by the transition animation after reload - it's a bit longer than Barrett's start-up time, so if you shoot too soon - you'll shoot before the animation is finished and the bullet will be offset. (Thanks L[0ne]R)
9. Threw-away-my-weapon-instead-of-knife: If you press "throw" before the animation for weapon switching is done - you'll throw away your current weapon, not the one you're switching to. Easy fix would be to make Soldat ignore the "throw away" command until you have finished switching weapons. (Thanks L[0ner]R)
10. Server-list-reloads-'n'-stops: This one is really fun. You request the serverlist and it just downloads a few servers. You have to try it again and again and again. Better luck next time ;) (Thanks Shoozza)
11. Dead-Throw-Key: Throwing weapons while you are standing on another one disables the throw key (you have to switch weapons to get it working again) (Thanks Shoozza and biohazard)
12. Weaponsmenu's-too-fast-for-ya: Weapons menu doesn't want to go away when respawn time is very low (you have to be very fast to get rid of it) (Thanks Shoozza)
13. AltTab-screwes-weaponsmenu-up-again: Alt-tabbing enables Weaponsmenu again (yay more fun getting rid of it) (Thanks Shoozzääää)
14. Dead-weaponz: Some weapons glued to the ground so that you cant pick them up (yeah lulz description) (Thanks Shoozza) (Temporary Workaround: Shoot teh gun!, suggested by biohazard; or just lie down on it, suggested by me :)
15.Magic-law-wind-bug: You're about to do that perfect distance LAW snipe on somebody, you aim just right, shoot it, but it doesn't hit them! The magic law wind blows him away, and the law projectile rarely hurts, let alone kills him. (Thanks pavliko)
16. And-the-flag-goes-wooooooooo: Throwing a flag should be accurate. As for right now, it's more of a random throwaway than a precise pass of the basketball. (Thanks biohazard)
17. Invisible-bullets: Happens so often, you think you're safe, coz that M79er missed, but suddenly, and out of nowhere, you die - hit by an invisible bullet. Luckily (or, sadly) happens the other way round as well: he hits your perfectly, but you get just pushed away and survive, though usually the wall behind you the has an invisible explosion. I assume connected to #15 Magic-law-wind-bug.(Thanks biohazard)
18. Fake-bonuses&medipacks: You have that 1% hp left and you're running away from that Minigun sprayer, make a jump into that medipack that appears to be the only way to survive... And what happens? You don't get healed, the medipack failed you. Some people call them LAGGY boni (bonuses) and medipacks, but c'mon, seriously: It can't be a bug that's impossible to fix, like lag, which is 'cause of the slow internet/far distance. Either there is a medipack, or there isn't.
Thanks for reading.
CRITIQUE AND COMMENTS VERY APPRECIATED
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The last one you mentioned has annoyed me since 2006..
Add some more to to the list and I might consider stickying it, so newcomers know they're not alone when encountering these.
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Barret zoom bugs really are annoying as hell. Also, sometimes if you shoot immediately after reloading is done (for example, if you kept holding fire button when it was reloading) - your shot will be a bit offset. This is caused by the transition animation after reload - it's a bit longer than barrett's start-up time, so if you shoot too soon - you'll shoot before the animation is finished and the bullet will be offset.
Don't forget the "threw away my weapon insdead of knife" bug. If you press "throw" before the animation for weapon switching is done - you'll throw away your current weapon, not the one you're switching to.
Easy fix would be to make Soldat ignore the "throw away" command until you have finished switching weapons.
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What a shotest list...
what i rly hate, is try to pump a droped weapon on the ground, and nothing happen, even if i move turning around it O.o
But srly, there are lots more annoying and oldest bugs
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2. Double-throw-weapon-away: You throw away one weapon, time it perfectly to pick up that one lying on the ground - and what happens? Your gostek just drops that second one right away as well! This possibly happens if you press the F button for too long, but seriously, even barely tapping it produces this bug. Hope y'all know what I'm talking about.
This happens only if you are standing directly on the floor weapon when you press the throw key. It's bugged (haha pun) me for ages.
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The Double-throw-weapon-away thingy can very useful if you play with knife.
The Scoreboard empty spots will get fixed in Soldat 1.5.1 but yeah it definitely made DM less fun.
My top soldat bugs are:
-4. Request Serverlist Stopps: This one is really fun. You request the serverlist and it just downloads a few servers. You have to try it again and again and again. Better luck next time ;)
-3. Dead throw key: Throwing weapons while you are standing on another one disables the throw key (you have to switch weapons to get it working again)
-2. Anti-Weaponsmenu disabling: Weapons menu doesn't want to go away when respawn time is very low (you have to be very fast to get rid of it)
-1. Alt+Tab extra: Alt-tabbing enables Weaponsmenu again (yay more fun getting rid of it)
0. Dead weapons: Some weapons glued to the ground so that you cant pick them up (yeah funny description)
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0. Dead weapons: Some weapons glued to the ground so that you cant pick them up (yeah funny description)
Are you kidding? That's always BOTHERED me for ages, especially when I want to get my own knife back.
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0. Dead weapons: Some weapons glued to the ground so that you cant pick them up (yeah funny description)
Are you kidding? That's always BOTHERED me for ages, especially when I want to get my own knife back.
just shoot them once and you can get it back
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Magic wind bug annoys the hell out of me, you law someone and a magic wind blows him away from the law so it wont hit him and mosty never hurts him
From: October 22, 2009, 02:06:06 am
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What a shotest list...
what i rly hate, is try to pump a droped weapon on the ground, and nothing happen, even if i move turning around it O.o
But srly, there are lots more annoying and oldest bugs
ok. then post them here so we can gather them!
BTW Guys updated version, we can do this, tell me more, we'll bust them all!
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Rly annoying is when you are about to do a perfect flag throw, and it goes to the backside, mostly on your enemies hands...
Another thing is the invisible stuff: knifes, nades(air and ground), laws, m79... even more when law/m79 do ricochets...
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Rly annoying is when you are about to do a perfect flag throw, and it goes to the backside, mostly on your enemies hands...
Another thing is the invisible stuff: knifes, nades(air and ground), laws, m79... even more when law/m79 do ricochets...
got'em
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JEZUZ-HELLA-FUKING-HALEJUIA-FAKE-MEDI-KITS-CHRIST
rly annoying... RLY
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JEZUZ-HELLA-FUKING-HALEJUIA-FAKE-MEDI-KITS-CHRIST
rly annoying... RLY
QFT lewl :DDD
Really, those bugs makes me fakkign mad.
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Foxconn, biohazard, stop the spam now before I start handin gout warnings.
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Foxconn, biohazard, stop the spam now before I start handin gout warnings.
hey jrgp, by the way, i cannot login with my account "Cube", it says there is some issue with transitioning user. could you check that?
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All true about those bugs. But I have a question to you Cube2.
" Have you ever lead a clan named [h20]???
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Another Barrett bug:
Sometimes when you press fire button too early(When your weapon is not reloaded yet) it shoots only after 3-4 seconds(Not just a start up time, much longer!)
Dunno why, maybe happens when someone shoot you.
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All true about those bugs. But I have a question to you Cube2.
" Have you ever lead a clan named [h20]???
yes i did. why?
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@Centurion and @ Cube2
Stay ontopic and use pm's for your offtopic talk.
Rly annoying is when you are about to do a perfect flag throw, and it goes to the backside, mostly on your enemies hands...
Another thing is the invisible stuff: knifes, nades(air and ground), laws, m79... even more when law/m79 do ricochets...
In fact if you hit a dead player with knife it continues for fly but is non visible to anyone.
Still can be useful if you know that but obviously shouldn't be that way.
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OMFG, number 7 happens to me everytime I play.
I have to end the task and of course get kicked out by battleye GRRRR!
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I agree with almost everything on your list.
You should add the crouchbug too.
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1. Barrett-no-instant-zoom: That happens randomly (at least appears to me) and annoys the crap out of me, plus I missed a couple kills because of that. You lie down, or crouch, and expect the Barrett to do its infamous zoom - but it doesn't happen! Then you have to get up, and try it once again - or even more times until the scope is finally being used.
This is an animation bug seen mostly in proning. You will know that your Soldat won't zoom when you see him not appearing to aim through the sniper scope, but instead having his body bent upwards, as though looking into the distance.
This is not random, but is still a bug nevertheless. The system is supposed to work in such a way that if you have fired a shot, you won't be able to scope, but you can scope when your gun is fully loaded. However, it doesn't work perfectly. For example, let's say you fired a shot while standing. After 120 ticks, you prone. You will get the animation I have described above. Instead of having to wait 120 ticks before you can scope (because that is when you can fire your next shot), you have to wait a full 240 ticks. Currently, what you can do to deal with it is to make sure that your Barrett is fully loaded (meaning you can fire your second shot), then unprone and prone again. Crouching doesn't solve the problem.
Here's how you tell if you won't zoom: (left = zoom, right = won't zoom)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6795/soldatsniperbug.png) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/soldatsniperbug.png/)
EDIT: According to SpiltCoffee, you can also tap the grenade button to solve this.
Also, regarding the one on "fake bonuses", it also works on the reverse: there are no medkits on the floor, yet if you walk over the floor (usually where the bonus spawns), you will pick up an invisible medkit and heal.
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If you wanna force the zoom, tap the grenade button.
Good ol' E. Solves just about every gostek bug (except crouchbug).
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Something else i find really annoying is when you prone and start firing your weapon. Then maybe you wanna stand up while your firing, but you just automatically flip down into prone position again. :|
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Something else i find really annoying is when you prone and start firing your weapon. Then maybe you wanna stand up while your firing, but you just automatically flip down into prone position again. :|
yep, you must stop firing, or a faster "aim-to-the-back"
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I agree with almost everything on your list.
You should add the crouchbug too.
which would be?
From: November 15, 2009, 01:32:07 pm
1. Barrett-no-instant-zoom: That happens randomly (at least appears to me) and annoys the crap out of me, plus I missed a couple kills because of that. You lie down, or crouch, and expect the Barrett to do its infamous zoom - but it doesn't happen! Then you have to get up, and try it once again - or even more times until the scope is finally being used.
This is an animation bug seen mostly in proning. You will know that your Soldat won't zoom when you see him not appearing to aim through the sniper scope, but instead having his body bent upwards, as though looking into the distance.
This is not random, but is still a bug nevertheless. The system is supposed to work in such a way that if you have fired a shot, you won't be able to scope, but you can scope when your gun is fully loaded. However, it doesn't work perfectly. For example, let's say you fired a shot while standing. After 120 ticks, you prone. You will get the animation I have described above. Instead of having to wait 120 ticks before you can scope (because that is when you can fire your next shot), you have to wait a full 240 ticks. Currently, what you can do to deal with it is to make sure that your Barrett is fully loaded (meaning you can fire your second shot), then unprone and prone again. Crouching doesn't solve the problem.
Here's how you tell if you won't zoom: (left = zoom, right = won't zoom)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6795/soldatsniperbug.png) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/soldatsniperbug.png/)
Also, regarding the one on "fake bonuses", it also works on the reverse: there are no medkits on the floor, yet if you walk over the floor (usually where the bonus spawns), you will pick up an invisible medkit and heal.
Thanks for the explanation. And it's true, the fake bonus bug also works reverse. That's often a joyful surprise when you gave up your last hope and "randomly" get 100% health back!
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I agree with almost everything on your list.
You should add the crouchbug too.
which would be?
Crouchbug is a relatively random but well-known bug that happens most frequently when you roll/backflip while reloading (usually happens to the M79). It causes you to go into a bugged animation.
Under the effects of crouchbug, you continuously move in the direction of where you are rolling/backflipping towards (ie: if you backflip or roll backwards, you will move backwards, but if you roll forward, you will move forward). You are also affected by gravity. You can use your jet boots to gain altitude. Traveling in crouchbug is actually very fast, kinda like prone jetting (ie: prone, then use jets to dive downwards). In addition, your reload is paused and you may not shoot. Certain weapon mods will screw up the animation as well, causing crouchbug to occur everytime you roll/backflip. It's a fun bug, but annoying when playing seriously. Apparently from what I hear, MM didn't want to fix this bug because he thought it was funny.
To cancel out of this bug, simply prone and unprone.
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MM didn't want to fix this bug because he thought it was funny.
... That's not funny at all!
STM1993, I love your explanations!