-You can bug your prone to fall faster, using this trick, but instead of holding the keys, just press righ after unprone.I have done this before, but I cant remember how. which keys?
I have done this before, but I cant remember how. which keys?Mostly change prone, unprone and change weapon, but you need to know the exactly timming, just change weapon right before you unprone. It works if you are reloading too, but seem like a bug for some (hope enesce don't fix it). Actually, nowadays i stopped using bunny hopping in big maps, like volly, too slow lol.
I'll have to try your bridge bug to find out what "this" is, cause I'm not really getting it from just reading/looking."This" is the poly slide movement. Do it there when supermanning, and you'll warp poly bug to lower route. Just a exemple how easy is to warp in poly edges, there are some.
I've never used crouch in my cannonballs. Ever. Would you mind going into a bit more detail?When you press jet, press crouch. I prefer that way, cuz its faster, the lil time needed for the "default" cannonball take so long(some miliseconds lol). Btw, i use the non-crouch cannonball when i am FC, else you will drop it.
XD this is good advice i think i can now win lots of rounds in dm,, thx!dusty ;O, proper movements is very useful, even tho it mostly consists of proper bunny jump, cannon ball, prone gliding sharp turns, polybug and boosting. look at me, even polaks says I warp ;o
90% my ass
Actually, nowadays i stopped using bunny hopping in big maps, like volly, too slow lol.Demo of you going fast plzzzz
QuoteI've never used crouch in my cannonballs. Ever. Would you mind going into a bit more detail?When you press jet, press crouch. I prefer that way, cuz its faster, the lil time needed for the "default" cannonball take so long(some miliseconds lol). Btw, i use the non-crouch cannonball when i am FC, else you will drop it.
You don't gain any speed if you crouch instead of jumping.QuoteI've never used crouch in my cannonballs. Ever. Would you mind going into a bit more detail?When you press jet, press crouch. I prefer that way, cuz its faster, the lil time needed for the "default" cannonball take so long(some miliseconds lol). Btw, i use the non-crouch cannonball when i am FC, else you will drop it.
BTWI think it's incredible. :P
I think the only mov that MM created, after the initial versions, is the backflip, the others are discovered accidentally. What do ya ppl think?
Not gain speed, but you dont need to wait a lil(very lil) time to press the jet, instead i press crouch right after i roll and do a almost instant cball. With crouch i can control better when i do the cball, if i wanna a instant cball i do, if i wanna a late cball i do. I prefer like that. Ofc i got to do the original one when carring a flag ;/the one where you wait a very little time before pressing jet is the fastest to perform and also the most speedy one. the crouch-cannonball can be performed in mid air, which is the only difference. which is explained here http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=35721.0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQp7Qog4IYQ
BTW
I think the only mov that MM created, after the initial versions, is the backflip, the others are discovered accidentally. What do ya ppl think?
This thread is eating up all my photobucket bandwidth, anyone know of a good place to host the gifs, or have a server they could put them on?Have you tried http://imageshack.us ?
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www.tinypic.comTinypic fails - it's full of porn ads and is laggy. :S
Uh, my experience is quite the opposite. :Swww.tinypic.comTinypic fails - it's full of porn ads and is laggy. :S
R ]I think he's right.
Kickjump - I believe that is just the first pic. It's when you let go of left/right key and jump.
The 2nd one is called bunny hopping (when you keep running and jumping at the same time).
Not gain speed, but you dont need to wait a lil(very lil) time to press the jet, instead i press crouch right after i roll and do a almost instant cball. With crouch i can control better when i do the cball, if i wanna a instant cball i do, if i wanna a late cball i do. I prefer like that. Ofc i got to do the original one when carring a flag ;/
the one where you wait a very little time before pressing jet is the fastest to perform and also the most speedy one.
the crouch-cannonball can be performed in mid air, which is the only difference. incorrect information tend to annoy me ;o
The idea of that was to illustrate that you can do different things at the top of a kickjump. Also in a kickjump you press jump a lot faster than when bunny-hopping. It also looks very different. At the moment I think I will stick with it, but I'm still open to persuasion.Quote from: L[0neR ]I think he's right.
Kickjump - I believe that is just the first pic. It's when you let go of left/right key and jump.
The 2nd one is called bunny hopping (when you keep running and jumping at the same time).
Chutem, maybe you can use that info to update your post.
I tried it a bit, but I still don't really get how he does it, mainly because:Quote from: biohazardNot gain speed, but you dont need to wait a lil(very lil) time to press the jet, instead i press crouch right after i roll and do a almost instant cball. With crouch i can control better when i do the cball, if i wanna a instant cball i do, if i wanna a late cball i do. I prefer like that. Ofc i got to do the original one when carring a flag ;/Quote from: -Major-the one where you wait a very little time before pressing jet is the fastest to perform and also the most speedy one.
the crouch-cannonball can be performed in mid air, which is the only difference. incorrect information tend to annoy me ;o
Major, I think you might have misunderstood the point of Biohazard.
I experimented a bit today with the "CB" and the "fake CB".
I found that you can indeed initiate the backflip a little bit quicker with a fake CB than with a regular one (but we're talking about milliseconds here). You may also delay it to when you're already mid air.
I think the two techniques are very useful:
Cannon ball.
-Higher
-More speed
but
-No control on the time of the backflip and on the trajectory.
=> Better for outrunning/catching enemies
Fake Cannon Ball.
-Lower
-Less speed
-Makes you involuntarily throw the flag
but
-Better control on timing (of the backflip) and trajectory (the longer you crouch, the lower you go)
=> Better for dodging/ hiding behind polys
Cannon ball.fixed it for you. the fake cannonball is rarely good, unless you really really have to make sure you make a cannonball.
-HigherLower
-More speed
but
-No control on the time of the backflip and on the trajectory.Full control of the timing and trajectory
=> Better for outrunning/catching enemies
Fake Cannon Ball.
-LowerHigher
-Less speed
-Makes you involuntarily throw the flag
but
-Better control on timing (of the backflip) and trajectory (the longer you crouch, the lower you go)the longer you wait for release, the slower you get
=>Better for dodging/ hiding behind polysuse a normal jump instead.
Also in a kickjump you press jump a lot faster than when bunny-hopping. It also looks very different. At the moment I think I will stick with it, but I'm still open to persuasion.Thinking about it again you are right. The first two animations are both "kick jumps". My mistake.
@Niko - Take a look at the reverse backflip partDidn't mean that, ill get a demo for ya.
@Bistoufly
none of them are a well done cball
banana-san will agree with me.
After working out the fake cannon ball last night, I agree with major. I don't think it is that useful.I think it's clearly less useful than learning the true cannon ball.
But, if its me playing 3vs3 normal CTF match, i never would run backward, unarmed.That's why I start bunny hopping/kickjump-superman once I think I am about to encounter enemies. Apart from that it is great being the EFC knowing that no one can catch you.
I think what this is especially lacking is nade jumping, which is possibly more important to movement than mastering soldat's thousands of aerobic maneuvers.I don't nade jump. I would rather go into a firefight with full health and lots of nades.
I don't nade jump. I would rather go into a firefight with full health and lots of nades.
Whoa, I never knew, or have seen, the sliding trick. Pretty cool. I've noticed that you can actually move a bit faster than hopping by doing backflips in such a way that you go horizontally. I can't always get this to work and usually get killed because my guy isn't centered on the screen and can't see anyone. But it's interesting. Anyone else notice this?
that you can actually move a bit faster than hopping by doing backflips in such a way that you go horizontally. I can't always get this to work and usually get killed because my guy isn't centered on the screen and can't see anyone. But it's interesting. Anyone else notice this?
@Bistouflyon blade or icebeam you want to use jet to get pushed into the ice when it's angle gets more vertical.
The only common trick i know about ice movs, is after prone-sliding, stand-up(uncrouch) b4 "gravity" get you down, to maintain speed(blade mid route)... there are rly secret movs on ice? I would luv to know.
In some situation you might want to be able to do it without throwing a nade or changing your weapon.
In that case use change weapon but cancel it in the same time with the nade button. With good timing you won't throw any grenade.
Cannon ball.fixed it for you. the fake cannonball is rarely good, unless you really really have to make sure you make a cannonball.
-HigherLower
-More speed
but
-No control on the time of the backflip and on the trajectory.Full control of the timing and trajectory
=> Better for outrunning/catching enemies
Fake Cannon Ball.
-LowerHigher
-Less speed
-Makes you involuntarily throw the flag
but
-Better control on timing (of the backflip) and trajectory (the longer you crouch, the lower you go)the longer you wait for release, the slower you get
=>Better for dodging/ hiding behind polysuse a normal jump instead.
the longer you wait for release, the slower you getYes it's true. But note that the regular and the fake cannonball share this behavior. If you make a late cb for example, it will be slower than a normal (not delayed) cb.
The worst thing is they thought 'prone in midair' was bug and 'fixed' it in the next release... so sad, i fuken love that move
Fixed "Crouch Float" bug
Isnt this the mid-air float trick?Quote from: ShoozzaFixed "Crouch Float" bug
The worst thing is they thought 'prone in midair' was bug and 'fixed' it in the next release... so sad, i fuken love that moveThis is precisely the type of changes which needs to be removed. Bring back the aerobic movement!
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http://sfd.doc776.org/map/838
http://sfd.doc776.org/map/5131
How many of these tricks are still useable in the newest version?I dont know..Test on these two maps: http://sfd.doc776.org/map/838
How many of these tricks are still useable in the newest version?I think only this one doesn't work anymore. (not sure)