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Title: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 17, 2010, 08:28:29 am
Can we do anything to invite Soldat like a PC game in World Cyber Games !?

WCG Official Website: http://www.wcg.com/ (http://www.wcg.com/)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/92/Soldat_logo.png/250px-Soldat_logo.png) -?-> (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/World_cyber_games_logo.png)

Quote from: Wiki
The World Cyber Games (WCG) is an international e-sports event (or "Cyber Games Festival") operated by Korean company World Cyber Games Inc. and backed by Samsung and, since 2006, Microsoft. The official motto of WCG is "Beyond the Game", which is also the title of a documentary focusing on a legendary WCG rivalry. The World Cyber Games were set up in 2000 with the first festival being held in 2001. The festival is influenced by the Olympic Games with a players village for competitors and since 2004 a different host city every year.

Coming WCG 2010 PS Games:

- StarCraft
- Counter-Strike
- FIFA
- TrackMania
- Carom3D
- Red Stone
- WarCraft III

It would be the best promotion to Soldat! Inauguration of our loved game!

___________________________________
Sorry, for my English... ;/
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: croat1gamer on April 17, 2010, 08:39:44 am
You have to be kidding.
Do you even know what are the requirements that a game becomes a WCG one?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 17, 2010, 10:44:29 am
He has a point, though. There should be some real advertisement for Soldat ...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 17, 2010, 12:04:29 pm
soldat isn't stable enough for competitive (for money) play.
also... a game needs atleast 100 times as big of a community than the one of soldat (the competitive community).

It isn't possible, but imo soldat is very interessting game (for spectators). but I see difficulties in actually having a live cast of it because of the fast gameplay, approximatly 20 seconds per average soldat life, very quick turning events (can turn from a bad position into a good one too quickly, not stable enough gameplay).
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Neosano on April 17, 2010, 02:04:07 pm
You have to be kidding.
Do you even know what are the requirements that a game becomes a WCG one?
Ye, rly, what are they?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 17, 2010, 03:17:40 pm
Graphics.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 17, 2010, 03:53:07 pm
Graphics.

Bulls**t, have you even seen StarCraft!?

(http://www.macreactor.com/pics2/starcraft/starcraft2.jpg)
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 17, 2010, 03:53:53 pm
Never played it, is it that bad?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 17, 2010, 03:56:43 pm
This game have got more than 10 years  ;)

It isn't possible, but imo soldat is very interessting game (for spectators). but I see difficulties in actually having a live cast of it because of the fast gameplay, approximatly 20 seconds per average soldat life, very quick turning events (can turn from a bad position into a good one too quickly, not stable enough gameplay).

Are this real reasons of this: "Why Soldat isn't be in WCG"? And who has said it...?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: biohazard on April 17, 2010, 08:00:17 pm
DX8.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: L[0ne]R on April 17, 2010, 09:18:42 pm
In my opinion, Soldat would be a perfect addition to WCG if not all the lags and bugs. If it was stable and visually a little more presentable - I think it could even take place among WCG monsters like Counter-Strike or Quake.


Never played it, is it that bad?
Shame on you. Go play it. :|

It actually looks ok even now and is about the level of an average indie game.
Except for the fact that it only supports 640x480. Not very fun, especially when you have about this many units:
http://snagwiremedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/starcraft-patch-released-new.jpg
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 17, 2010, 10:55:45 pm
This game have got more than 10 years  ;)

It isn't possible, but imo soldat is very interessting game (for spectators). but I see difficulties in actually having a live cast of it because of the fast gameplay, approximatly 20 seconds per average soldat life, very quick turning events (can turn from a bad position into a good one too quickly, not stable enough gameplay).

Are this real reasons of this: "Why Soldat isn't be in WCG"? And who has said it...?

sctfl forums: Total Members: 3238
sctfl 16: currently 94 clans, I would guess maybe 500-700 players.

there is absolutly no way why they would take soldat instead of those worse games, like, sudden attack and whatnot (don't even know what they are named, altho, I thought sudden attack was already in wcg).

Graphics.

Bulls**t, have you even seen StarCraft!?

(http://www.macreactor.com/pics2/starcraft/starcraft2.jpg)
Never played it, is it that bad?

Starcraft is among the greatest games in the world, extremely well balanced.
It is also south koreas national sport, so why starcraft is in wcg is not a surprise.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: enchant on April 18, 2010, 04:48:41 am
WCG is operated by Korean company.
In Korea, there is not much of soldat players(maybe less than 20 ppl). also, they don't know what is the soldat imo
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: biohazard on April 18, 2010, 10:14:42 am
Soldat is not even close to Quake possibility of constumization. Btw, even TeeWorlds which is 2D uses openGL and offer loads of features to customize.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 18, 2010, 10:19:32 am
... graphics has nothing to do with WCG, SC and CS are good examples of that.
it's more about popularity and game play, if it's a huge game with good gameplay (and well balanced), it might very well end up in WCG.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: smiluu on April 18, 2010, 12:32:36 pm
If we exclude the current bugs, Soldat has an awesome gameplay. I mean, how would it got this far if it wouldn't have?
Big community is good, but it's not good if it doesn't accomplish anything. Take Warsow as an example.

Soldat has quite a strong community, dont you agree?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 18, 2010, 01:28:37 pm
A strong, mature and intelligent community, indeed
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: biohazard on April 18, 2010, 02:45:47 pm
If we exclude the current bugs, Soldat has an awesome gameplay. I mean, how would it got this far if it wouldn't have?
Big community is good, but it's not good if it doesn't accomplish anything. Take Warsow as an example.

Soldat has quite a strong community, dont you agree?

To me the fun thing on Soldat are the bugs. In fact, they are not bugs, more like features ;>
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 18, 2010, 03:02:11 pm
If we exclude the current bugs, Soldat has an awesome gameplay. I mean, how would it got this far if it wouldn't have?
Big community is good, but it's not good if it doesn't accomplish anything. Take Warsow as an example.

Soldat has quite a strong community, dont you agree?

To me the fun thing on Soldat are the bugs. In fact, they are not bugs, more like features ;>
I can't see eating as a feature...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: biohazard on April 18, 2010, 04:53:15 pm
In true, Soldat is like another MMORPG, u can choose classes.

Like a eater is the tanker...
The Invi nade spammer is the stealth assassin...
The warper is the mage...

And when u are high level, you can mix all classes together and eat, warping, shooting invi shits.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: smiluu on April 19, 2010, 02:47:02 am
I can't see eating as a feature...
You can't see anything within the bright light, eating is so serious prolem that
we should without hesitation pass over all Soldat's attempts/ideas to become more popular
no matter what.
A strong, mature and intelligent community, indeed
Heh, and now I can see the music.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 19, 2010, 10:36:40 am
If that´s so why do we still sit here and discuss?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: scarface09 on April 22, 2010, 09:56:53 am
This is why this game gets nowhere. Nobody fucking listens to anybody.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 22, 2010, 01:33:39 pm
In my opinion, Soldat would be a perfect addition to WCG if not all the lags and bugs. If it was stable and visually a little more presentable - I think it could even take place among WCG monsters like Counter-Strike or Quake.


It actually looks ok even now and is about the level of an average indie game.
Except for the fact that it only supports 640x480. Not very fun, especially when you have about this many units:
http://snagwiremedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/starcraft-patch-released-new.jpg

Damn, I haven't know, they have made a re-make... Whatever, I think MM will give free registrations for players on WCG...

Bugs: Maybe we shoud make some guide, "How to kill your bugs in Soldat!?" like Manual, I think, it will help... ;D At this moment, you must looking for the help on forum...

Lags: There are no lags if you playing in lan game... So it's not so important on WCG...

We need a EPIC TRAILER which will show Korea, that's game on WCG!
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 22, 2010, 02:38:35 pm
You cannot avoid bugs that happen all the time.
And there was once a trailer contest ... no result, but I agree on that.

Make it popular.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 22, 2010, 02:56:39 pm
You cannot avoid bugs that happen all the time.
And there was once a trailer contest ... no result, but I agree on that.

Make it popular.

So we need better trailer, but i have problems with recording... ;/
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: L[0ne]R on April 22, 2010, 04:05:08 pm
You cannot avoid bugs that happen all the time.
And there was once a trailer contest ... no result, but I agree on that.

Make it popular.

So we need better trailer, but i have problems with recording... ;/
The problem was not because trailers were bad. The problem was that supposedly there weren't enough trailers submitted (though in my opinion the numbers were acceptable).

Bugs: Maybe we shoud make some guide, "How to kill your bugs in Soldat!?" like Manual, I think, it will help... ;D At this moment, you must looking for the help on forum...

Lags: There are no lags if you playing in lan game... So it's not so important on WCG...
Bugs should be fixed within the game's code, which only game developer himself can do. Players can't do anything to fix those bugs.

As for lags - it's true that every online game has them. But Soldat has them more than an average game.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: enchant on April 23, 2010, 05:33:09 am
i'm korean, and i have been playing soldat about 7 years.
me and kzya wanna more korean soldat player. so we made a forum(soldatmania) and advertised soldat on irc, websites, etc. but they didn't pay attention to soldat.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: croat1gamer on April 23, 2010, 05:42:23 am
Make a Starcraft mod.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 23, 2010, 12:16:18 pm
i'm korean, and i have been playing soldat about 7 years.
me and kzya wanna more korean soldat player. so we made a forum(soldatmania) and advertised soldat on irc, websites, etc. but they didn't pay attention to soldat.

We need more and more Korean players... WCG must see, it's famous!

Make a Starcraft mod.

Crap idea...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: L[0ne]R on April 23, 2010, 02:30:52 pm
i'm korean, and i have been playing soldat about 7 years.
me and kzya wanna more korean soldat player. so we made a forum(soldatmania) and advertised soldat on irc, websites, etc. but they didn't pay attention to soldat.

We need more and more Korean players... WCG must see, it's famous!
Yeah. Koreans are the way to go. <3  Poles and germans are so uncool anyway.

Make a Starcraft mod.
Crap idea...
Joke idea, in case you didn't get it. <_<
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 23, 2010, 05:43:27 pm
XD, koreans aren't very good at fps or anything else than rts games :p.
the more clicking the better they are, but if it's about aim they fail :<
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Dusty on April 23, 2010, 06:12:29 pm
The latest demo of you and Kzya playing against each other was pretty hilarious to watch. Didn't you quit it after 15-2?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 23, 2010, 11:31:14 pm
The latest demo of you and Kzya playing against each other was pretty hilarious to watch. Didn't you quit it after 15-2?
? I think last time I played vs kzya he rage quit cuz I was using brt. and yes, I have like 15 vitneses on that one (I think it was 15 specs...)

besides... higher ping = easier to hit (because somehow, there becomes more position = bigger hit area), so really...
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EiyKQ4MM , for some fun reading (3x ban for being suspected of hacking)

also, haven't you looked at cs in the WCG? :D, korea loses in like the first qualifiers :p, only european teams gets far. (even the point of you bringing up individual players in soldat is just so retarded, also, I have played vs you, you should gain some skill before you act tough ;d)
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 24, 2010, 02:05:22 am
All this talk about skills is nonsense. We don't need more pro players, we need more players regardless of their skills.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 24, 2010, 02:12:09 am
All this talk about skills is nonsense. We don't need more pro players, we need more players regardless of their skills.
you do know this is a thread about WCG?...

we need more pro players and a less broken game.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 24, 2010, 02:51:44 am
This thread is about WCG, aye.

But it's a general problem.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 24, 2010, 08:52:42 am
wth? We just need better Soldat, no bugs etc... Maybe NEW engine and Soldat2...?  :o
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 24, 2010, 09:23:28 am
If this was a joke it wasn't funny
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 24, 2010, 09:53:36 am
It wasn't...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Dusty on April 24, 2010, 10:03:52 am
I have played vs you, you should gain some skill before you act tough ;d)

I'm sorry but:
#1 I can't remember when you have played exceptionally well against me nor anyone else
#2 I don't care about my "skills" in a video game. I do suck occasionally but it doesn't bother me at all.

Honestly speaking I find your bragging about "skill" and "knowledge" on Soldat rather pathetic. The time you have spent with Soldat making guides and proving you know more about Soldat than anyone else makes me smug. All this talk about pro gaming and "Nation X sucks at the game Y" strongly implies that the time has come for you to visit the world outside. Computer as a hobby is OK but you seem to be pretty obsessed with Soldat and its community. On a little side note, I have never understood what you pursuing by always announcing how people suck at this and that. I suppose it's just to make yourself feel a bit better.

To answer the last question: No, I haven't watched CS matches nor any other games in WCG since I have better things to do than watching other people play video games.

As for the topic itself, the current state of Soldat isn't enough for bigger events.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 24, 2010, 10:37:55 am
Less bugs, okay, but new engine? EnEsCe is the only one working on Soldat
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 24, 2010, 11:01:55 am
I have played vs you, you should gain some skill before you act tough ;d)

I'm sorry but:
#1 I can't remember when you have played exceptionally well against me nor anyone else
#2 I don't care about my "skills" in a video game. I do suck occasionally but it doesn't bother me at all.

Honestly speaking I find your bragging about "skill" and "knowledge" on Soldat rather pathetic. The time you have spent with Soldat making guides and proving you know more about Soldat than anyone else makes me smug. All this talk about pro gaming and "Nation X sucks at the game Y" strongly implies that the time has come for you to visit the world outside. Computer as a hobby is OK but you seem to be pretty obsessed with Soldat and its community. On a little side note, I have never understood what you pursuing by always announcing how people suck at this and that. I suppose it's just to make yourself feel a bit better.

To answer the last question: No, I haven't watched CS matches nor any other games in WCG since I have better things to do than watching other people play video games.

As for the topic itself, the current state of Soldat isn't enough for bigger events.
:D, I haven't played soldat in a long time, except for a fcw a few hours ago.
And yes, I probably do know more about soldat than the most in the community (I did at the time do A LOT of research about a lot of things, cuz I had nothing else to do). As an example: do you know that online got 20% more jet than offline? which causes warps and eats. if no, I know more about soldat than you, if yes, well, then we're equal ;o.

also, I have been fake nicking and got me banned like 3 times from s.g (probably somebody reported suspicion for fake-nicking/hacking from a completely unknown person) and 3 times from the na gathers, for "hacking".
and no, if somebody cocks himself up against me, I do bash them (like dezertur etc etc). however, I am friendly to noobs and whoever is respectful towards me (altho, you can't deny most soldaters are retards).

(08:03:24) (@ricr) but banana-san here
(08:03:27) (@ricr) was doing some very
(08:03:28) (@ricr) suspicious
(08:03:29) (@ricr) s**t
(08:03:37) (@ricr) like throwing nades for no reason on the floor in his base
(08:03:43) (@ricr) needlessly glitchy movement
(08:03:52) (@ricr) strange aiming patterns
(08:04:07) (@ricr) for bans from SCTFL etc. we try to rely on battleye as much as possible
(08:04:11) (@ricr) however in gathers
+b


Also... proof > your theories.
EVERY wcg only european teams are in the semifinals/finals for cs.
like some korean wins wcg every time on the starcraft part.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 24, 2010, 11:28:35 am
Less bugs, okay, but new engine? EnEsCe is the only one working on Soldat

I know... And it's sad... ;/ We need new programmers, a team! xD

Polish team AGAiN has won last WCG in CS...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Dusty on April 24, 2010, 12:53:47 pm
blah blah

The logs you keep posting are totally irrelevant to this subject. ricr banned you, end of story. It might have been unjustified - but as said earlier - irrelevant.

As for your post, did I ask you to write down your Soldat memoir? Did I ask you to tell us what you have achieved among Soldat or in which ways you know more about Soldat than me? No, I told you I don't care - and my statement remains valid.

Just for your information, one of the times it was me who reported you. I didn't report you as "suspicious unknown player", I reported you as Banana-San.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 24, 2010, 12:57:25 pm
@Major:
You talk so much but you don't understand shit about what people are trying to tell you. And noone was interested in what you do on rainy afternoons or half of your life story.

@machina:
Well, noone (with that little exception of EnEsCe) likes working for free.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Madow on April 24, 2010, 07:15:22 pm
There is a reason that the Soldat community, both pro and newb is so small. Just look at the game, it's a 2D side-scroller where you play as tiny characters in small maps. I'm not a good enough player to know Soldat in-depth but I know a game like StarCraft with now-outdated graphics has more depth then Soldat and most games out there and still does, hence why it's so damn popular in Korea.
Soldat on WCG? Totally out of the question if Soldat stays how it is now. There really needs to be more development going on, aswell as the fuckton of bugs that need to be fixed.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 24, 2010, 08:51:17 pm
blah blah

The logs you keep posting are totally irrelevant to this subject. ricr banned you, end of story. It might have been unjustified - but as said earlier - irrelevant.

As for your post, did I ask you to write down your Soldat memoir? Did I ask you to tell us what you have achieved among Soldat or in which ways you know more about Soldat than me? No, I told you I don't care - and my statement remains valid.

Just for your information, one of the times it was me who reported you. I didn't report you as "suspicious unknown player", I reported you as Banana-San.
lol, you know you're being a complete retard now? what you are writing is IRRELEVANT, it was irrlevant from the beggining. why do you post something that is completely offtopic and is just dumb? trolls like you should be permanently-banned.

the things you come up with is so retarded... if you haven't noticed I have been trolling the sctfl community for like 2 years now. and NOBODY realizes I am trolling, that's how retarded you are...

@Major:
You talk so much but you don't understand s**t about what people are trying to tell you. And noone was interested in what you do on rainy afternoons or half of your life story.
ye, I saying what happened during 1 day really is the same as talking about my life story (thumbs up), you are one smart guy!
I am surprised you aren't banned yet for posting in topics without a reason at all, rage kid, if you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.
There is a reason that the Soldat community, both pro and newb is so small. Just look at the game, it's a 2D side-scroller where you play as tiny characters in small maps. I'm not a good enough player to know Soldat in-depth but I know a game like StarCraft with now-outdated graphics has more depth then Soldat and most games out there and still does, hence why it's so damn popular in Korea.
Soldat on WCG? Totally out of the question if Soldat stays how it is now. There really needs to be more development going on, aswell as the f**kton of bugs that need to be fixed.
somewhat true, but ussualy fps or shooters at all aren't very deep games, heck, they even had some fucking mobilephone game in WCG (probably because they payed a HUGE sum).
gameplay wise soldat isn't really inferior to any of the other games (maybe get bigger maps (like laos), cuz it's too fast phased right now).
and yes, it's because of the bugs, eats and retarded netcode that nobody plays it (ye, I had a friend that wanted to test soldat, but he got so sick of the 50% eat so he quit), and also why it cannot be in WCG. when a game relys on luck, it isn't a competetive game.

Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 25, 2010, 02:02:54 am
This is getting interesting :) Who's raging yet again?


I am not into serious gaming like you are, but I think you should at least give it a try before shooting this suggestion down like 'WOOF' just because you think it has no chance? No, sir!
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 25, 2010, 02:45:31 am
@machina:
Well, noone (with that little exception of EnEsCe) likes working for free.

So we need programmers which like/love Soldat, and wants help to make it game better...

There is a reason that the Soldat community, both pro and newb is so small. Just look at the game, it's a 2D side-scroller where you play as tiny characters in small maps. I'm not a good enough player to know Soldat in-depth but I know a game like StarCraft with now-outdated graphics has more depth then Soldat and most games out there and still does, hence why it's so damn popular in Korea.
Soldat on WCG? Totally out of the question if Soldat stays how it is now. There really needs to be more development going on, aswell as the f**kton of bugs that need to be fixed.

Shit right, we must change Soldat... Make it better, EnEsCe need help, really... But first, we must have an official opinion of EnEsCe/MM...

Maybe they shoud start a special rekruitment to Transhuman only for Soldat... Make a little team and tart work...?

I can project a new interface :)
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Dusty on April 25, 2010, 04:08:43 am
First of all, Major, calm down. Take a deep breath, count to ten etc., you know how it works. Going into baseless personal arguments isn't taking you anywhere.

You have to be one the most amusing person I've seen in a while. (http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9581/trollu.png) It's hilarious to see how you are always trying to cover your obvious lack of - uh - pretty much everything by telling you're only trollin' around.

(Usually is spelled "usually", not "ussualy". Try to get it right next time and people might even take you seriously here and wherever you are seeking for attention.)

machina, you should explore the community and its history more. If only things were as easy as you make them sound, but the thing is that staying in touch with NSC or MM is rather difficult today.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 25, 2010, 04:22:27 am
machina, you should explore the community and its history more. If only things were as easy as you make them sound, but the thing is that staying in touch with NSC or MM is rather difficult today.

Maybe for that, NSC haven't answeared on my pm... ;/ Whatever, not many people knows what is it, Soldat...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 25, 2010, 10:39:25 am
First of all, Major, calm down. Take a deep breath, count to ten etc., you know how it works. Going into baseless personal arguments isn't taking you anywhere.

You have to be one the most amusing person I've seen in a while. (http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9581/trollu.png) It's hilarious to see how you are always trying to cover your obvious lack of - uh - pretty much everything by telling you're only trollin' around.

(Usually is spelled "usually", not "ussualy". Try to get it right next time and people might even take you seriously here and wherever you are seeking for attention.)

machina, you should explore the community and its history more. If only things were as easy as you make them sound, but the thing is that staying in touch with NSC or MM is rather difficult today.

err... I don't read trough what I type. some people seem to be confused to why caps are used, it's to mark a word.
and... you seem to be underestimating my trolling skills, eitherway, I have grown tired of posting towards you (since you aren't even entertaining).


machina, you should explore the community and its history more. If only things were as easy as you make them sound, but the thing is that staying in touch with NSC or MM is rather difficult today.

Maybe for that, NSC haven't answeared on my pm... ;/ Whatever, not many people knows what is it, Soldat...
enesce is a 13 year old kid (actually like 21), who fails in every community and cannot take critisism, so he have "unfortunatly" abondoned the forums since long (after his low ping fraud on his server rentals).
he won't answer your pms, neither do I think your pms contain any important remarks or matrial.


Soldat is written in delphi... a weak language, is a very broken game, rather unpopular and is frozen in development.
a WCG game demands pretty much everything of these things to be of the opposite.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Mittsu on April 25, 2010, 11:25:12 am
hahaha major you're such a stupid twat, and that's the reason you're getting banned everywhere, no one gives a shit how "pro" you are, stop using it as an argument you dumbass, seems like you got too much into the game you can't see what's really going on

these logs ridicule you, not ricr, good job kid
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: smiluu on April 25, 2010, 11:34:58 am
Soldat is written in delphi... a weak language, is a very broken game, rather unpopular and is frozen in development.
a WCG game demands pretty much everything of these things to be of the opposite.
Youre being slightly useful when you repeat this same fact we all understood eight pages ago.
What remains is your sole purpose (trolling) which everybody present is starting to get enough of.

How about we all just stop worshipping ass-cock and start getting along? Thats what cool people does.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 25, 2010, 12:22:17 pm
Soldat is written in delphi... a weak language, is a very broken game, rather unpopular and is frozen in development.
a WCG game demands pretty much everything of these things to be of the opposite.

If we will make a new engine it can kill all scripts to Soldat which have been written for Soldat since 1.1 version of game... ;/
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 25, 2010, 02:55:51 pm
Soldat is written in delphi... a weak language, is a very broken game, rather unpopular and is frozen in development.
a WCG game demands pretty much everything of these things to be of the opposite.
Youre being slightly useful when you repeat this same fact we all understood eight pages ago.
What remains is your sole purpose (trolling) which everybody present is starting to get enough of.

How about we all just stop worshipping ass-cock and start getting along? Thats what cool people does.
lol, you clearly haven't read the posts in here, like 50% thinks the poorness of soldat should just be looked over. so you gotta point it up again and again and again.

either way, your post was complete trolling and irrelevant, posting just to tell me your opinion of me posting is just so extremely retarded...
Soldat is written in delphi... a weak language, is a very broken game, rather unpopular and is frozen in development.
a WCG game demands pretty much everything of these things to be of the opposite.

If we will make a new engine it can kill all scripts to Soldat which have been written for Soldat since 1.1 version of game... ;/
well.... soldat could always go open source... the weak language isn't that big of a deal if you can get everything to work (soldat is a quite small game and doesn't need a strong language like C++).
losing all the scripts wouldn't really be any harm, since scripts is kinda what kills soldat (you try soldat for the first time and gets into some kind of bullshit server like zombie only or hexer shit, there's NO WAY you're gonna stay). these scripts reminds me of these gay mods that are in Q3 (which totally kills the game).
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 25, 2010, 03:37:13 pm
So don't care about which language we will use... C++ won't kill scripting...?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: smiluu on April 26, 2010, 12:12:34 pm
lol, you clearly haven't read the posts in here, like 50% thinks the poorness of soldat should just be looked over. so you gotta point it up again and again and again.

either way, your post was complete trolling and irrelevant, posting just to tell me your opinion of me posting is just so extremely retarded...
Answering to your witty remarks is completely relevant, since this topic contains nothing else than your annoying whineous sheibestapel.
Nothing else than your determination of being wrong stands out, and theres no really need to read what I (besides) already understand.
I suppose you know what topic means. It means people speaks, people are wrong, people tries to enlighten other people, some people
never learns. Simple shit. Theres rules against spamming, but there ain't rules against being useless.. Too bad. You'd get a fine
double tap there.

losing all the scripts wouldn't really be any harm, since scripts is kinda what kills soldat (you try soldat for the first time and gets into some kind of bulls**t server like zombie only or hexer s**t, there's NO WAY you're gonna stay). these scripts reminds me of these gay mods that are in Q3 (which totally kills the game).
Every little fucking thing seems to turn out a baneful big disaster for you. You might be right at times, but youre completely
wrong if you believe every single soldat player in the whole universe is having problems finding a normal server, no I think youre
the only remaining fury mammal going warpath against people who actually know something about or really cares for Soldat.
 
How about you go to a fucking jail?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 26, 2010, 12:29:38 pm
How about you go to a f**king jail?

This. And nothing else.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 27, 2010, 12:59:17 am
What u think...? Is it difficult to make make Soldat from Delphi to C++? There are only 2 files .dll...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 27, 2010, 01:30:26 am
What u think...? Is it difficult to make make Soldat from Delphi to C++? There are only 2 files .dll...
the whole game must be rewritten for that.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 27, 2010, 03:58:11 am
Ech, I know... ;/ They should make a converter Delphi2C++ xDD
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: kzya on April 27, 2010, 09:28:01 pm
? I think last time I played vs kzya he rage quit cuz I was using brt. and yes, I have like 15 vitneses on that one (I think it was 15 specs...)
just take your loss instead of making things up and whining about me and korea constantly LOL
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: xurich on April 27, 2010, 09:28:47 pm
lol, you know you're being a complete retard now? what you are writing is IRRELEVANT, it was irrlevant from the beggining. why do you post something that is completely offtopic and is just dumb? trolls like you should be permanently-banned.

the things you come up with is so retarded... if you haven't noticed I have been trolling the sctfl community for like 2 years now. and NOBODY realizes I am trolling, that's how retarded you are...

THE IRONY IS TOO MUCH
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 28, 2010, 12:04:10 am
lol, you know you're being a complete retard now? what you are writing is IRRELEVANT, it was irrlevant from the beggining. why do you post something that is completely offtopic and is just dumb? trolls like you should be permanently-banned.

the things you come up with is so retarded... if you haven't noticed I have been trolling the sctfl community for like 2 years now. and NOBODY realizes I am trolling, that's how retarded you are...

THE IRONY IS TOO MUCH
well, then again, I am permanently "banned".


? I think last time I played vs kzya he rage quit cuz I was using brt. and yes, I have like 15 vitneses on that one (I think it was 15 specs...)
just take your loss instead of making things up and whining about me and korea constantly LOL
ping > skill, everyone knows it, I have even watched demos of you playing... it's really pathetic to see how you just runs on every nade but takes no damage or deboost.
normally people can accept that oneself eat, like "lol, I'm such an eater ;d", but you're like, "amagad, I'm best, my aim is best, I never eat!"... really pathetic.


irrelevant posts gets answers with irrelevant posts ;d.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 28, 2010, 12:21:26 am
Still you're again talking about 'skill'.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 28, 2010, 01:10:24 am
Maybe you don't know, but I've made this topic to think "How add Soldat on WCG, what should we do?"
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 28, 2010, 02:05:45 am
Maybe you don't know, but I've made this topic to think "How add Soldat on WCG, what should we do?"
I think it's basically impossible :p, only the big big games get in >.<.

and now when BE is (probably) going down it looks even less plausible :p
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: kzya on April 28, 2010, 06:09:06 am
yea man it's ping > skill
that's why probably aussies haven't won sctfl except two players from ss
makes some sense LOL
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 28, 2010, 06:42:33 am
Let's talk about better Soldat... What should be there...?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 28, 2010, 08:24:52 am
-Bugfixes
-Bugfixes
-Bugfixes
-Bugfixes
-[...]

Forget everything new and focus on things that really need to be done before adding more buggy features ...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Mittsu on April 28, 2010, 08:35:00 am
ping > skill

what a perfect excuse for being bad at soldat! too bad you're one of the few people that give a shit enough to need one
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 28, 2010, 08:51:59 am
Maybe new code will delete this all bugs...? What you think about it?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: DarkCrusade on April 28, 2010, 08:53:37 am
No. You don't understand what coding is about at all.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 28, 2010, 08:55:19 am
So tell me... Other games can have no bugs... Why Soldat is so shit...?
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: Mittsu on April 28, 2010, 09:08:40 am
i'm not into programming either but i've heard soldat's base code is very messy, it's like you built a house on broken bricks. Fixing single bricks can result in crashing other bricks that are close to each other, on the other hand rebuilding the entire house is quite an effort too. I hope i understood it correctly and you get my metaphor lol
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 28, 2010, 10:03:37 am
So we need a total new code without any bugs... We need Soldat2...
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: smiluu on April 28, 2010, 12:06:23 pm
So we need a total new code without any bugs... We need Soldat2...
Theres already openSoldat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkSZQ26tz8U) under work.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 28, 2010, 01:07:05 pm
I see there only little geomethric figures, not Soldat... xD
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: -Major- on April 29, 2010, 01:57:08 am
well, that's because openSoldat isn't going to well...
new code =/= bug fixes, all the bugs in the current code can be fixed with a strong programmer (i.e not enesce).
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 29, 2010, 03:44:45 am
So can he help them...? Are they going to make Soldat2 with new prettier interface etc, or just make a version without bugs...? What code, are they using, Delphi, C++? I've got many questions ;]
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: smiluu on April 29, 2010, 04:59:21 am
I don't know what code they have in use, but regardless the slow process.. people working on it certainly have more hope than
soldat and 5-10 Enesces together would have. oS will be a whole new game, new looks, engine, features and so on. And since its
open source, it will be easier to do more complex scripts/mods.

Your ideas/questions propably will end up useless, but you can still register to their forums (http://opensoldat.u13.net/forum/) and give it a try.
Title: Re: Soldat on WCG ?
Post by: machina on April 29, 2010, 06:29:17 am
I'm going to check when it will be done... ;]