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Title: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 08, 2010, 08:16:56 am
Listen up, I have a idea for Soldat mod. This is'nt a mod about country soldier, special force, or anything. Just a mercenary. Okay, this mod will bring player to mercenary warfare. No followed rules, no proxy nation, just might against might!  ;D

STORY
In 20XX, a world is ruled by two superpower mercenary groups. There are Bold Falcon Mercenary Group which the member is from North America, South America, and Europe. The opposing mercenary group is Red Bear Mercenary Alliance which the member is from Russia, ex-Soviet, Africa, Middle East, North Korea, and China.

WEAPONS

Bold Falcon Mercenary Group
1. Dual Glock 19
2. MP7
3. M16A2
4. HK G36
5. Winchester Defender
6. M14 EBR
7. GL-06
8. HK PSG-1
9. FN F2000
10. M60E4

USSOCOM = M9
Knife = Knife
Chainsaw = Defibrillator
LAW = SMAW


Red Bear Mercenary Alliance
1. Dual Makarov
2. Bizon
3. AK-47
4. AK-101
5. Saiga 12
6. SKS Simonov
7. AK-47 w/ GP-25
8. SV Dragunov
9. Type 95
10. RPK

USSOCOM = Baghra
Knife = Machette
Chainsaw = Sword
LAW = RPG-2

So, I need someone help to working the interfaces-gfx, and weapon-gfx of that weapon. Oh yes, all comments, suggestions, and critics are welcome.

Sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: -Skykanden- on May 08, 2010, 08:31:40 am
My god... The same story of all games, US vs Commies. I would work mroe on that.
Why the Blood Falcons have a desfibrilator and the Reds have a sword?

IF you would like to have some mercenary mod, maybe you should choose some less used weapons
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 08, 2010, 08:36:41 am
My god... The same story of all games, US vs Commies. I would work mroe on that.
Why the Bold Falcons have a desfibrilator and the Reds have a sword?

IF you would like to have some mercenary mod, maybe you should choose some less used weapons

You can imagine this:

Bold Falcon use Defibrillator because they are West and Red Bear use sword because they are East. LOL.

Less used weapons? What weapons you mean?
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Espadon on May 08, 2010, 08:43:06 am
zzzzz same modern weapons all the time

boring
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 08, 2010, 08:50:37 am
zzzzz same modern weapons all the time

boring

So, you want a few classicall weapon? Okay, gimme that....
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Espadon on May 08, 2010, 09:05:02 am
Why not make up some modern-looking but original weapons?
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: MattH on May 08, 2010, 11:08:26 am
You can get most of the weapons you you listed there of my page....

feel free to take anything you want.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: -Skykanden- on May 08, 2010, 02:55:33 pm
I mean what Espadon says

But why the hell the east uses swords and west defibrilators? my god thats just pointless!

Put some weapons that have never been made on soldat, Calico SMG, G11 (nearly noone has made one), etc.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: croat1gamer on May 08, 2010, 03:03:54 pm
Also, i cant remember that there were separate weapon gfx'es. Did anything change since the last time i modded?
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 14, 2010, 07:03:03 am
Okay, I got little job for who interrest. I want someone to make weapons-gfx of:
Dual Glock 19
M9
Dual Makarov
Winchester Defender
Saiga 12
SKS Simonov
M14 EBR
Machette

Oh.... Forget about defibrillator and sword. I need more unique than defibrillator or sword. Hmm..... Any ideas?

And for last one, forget about Barret M95 sniper, I'll change it into PSG-1.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 14, 2010, 08:09:45 am
Either Espadon's idea, or make up an imaginary story from the past.
We've seen enough 21'st-22'nd century crap.
Just look at how many weapons you have for alternatives in the ante-WW1 era.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 15, 2010, 08:51:37 am
Either Espadon's idea, or make up an imaginary story from the past.
We've seen enough 21'st-22'nd century crap.
Just look at how many weapons you have for alternatives in the ante-WW1 era.

So...

How about this... Some oldish weapon

Bold Falcon Mercenary Group
1. Dual Glock 19
2. MP7
3. M16A2
4. HK G3A2
5. Winchester Defender
6. M14
7. GL-06
8. HK PSG-1
9. FN F2000
10. M60E4

USSOCOM = M9
Knife = Knife
Chainsaw = ?
LAW = M1 Bazooka
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 15, 2010, 02:12:18 pm
Either Espadon's idea, or make up an imaginary story from the past.
We've seen enough 21'st-22'nd century crap.
Just look at how many weapons you have for alternatives in the ante-WW1 era.

So...

How about this... Some oldish weapon

Bold Falcon Mercenary Group
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_10
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bren_light_machine_gun
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZB_vz.26
5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stevens_511_Shotgun.jpg
6. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_rifle
7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_10_Grenade_Discharger
8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kb_ppanc_wz.35 (Same idea as the Barrett, rifle meant for penetrating heavy vehicle armor)/SVT 40 if it's too hard
9. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG42_machine_gun
10. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Gun

USSOCOM = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_PP
Knife = Knife (Just make it look decent, and pick out something random from the history books)
Chainsaw = Hmmm, no idea
LAW = M1 Bazooka (Sounds just about right)

Fixed; Picked the weapons out at random, since we're talking about mercenaries.
And change the factions' names for crying out loud.
P.S: Remember that I chose these weapons for my idea, as in you making up an imaginative course for WW1, and a different WW2 happening.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 15, 2010, 06:55:46 pm
Either Espadon's idea, or make up an imaginary story from the past.
We've seen enough 21'st-22'nd century crap.
Just look at how many weapons you have for alternatives in the ante-WW1 era.

So...

How about this... Some oldish weapon

Bold Falcon Mercenary Group
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_10
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bren_light_machine_gun
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZB_vz.26
5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stevens_511_Shotgun.jpg
6. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_rifle
7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_10_Grenade_Discharger
8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kb_ppanc_wz.35 (Same idea as the Barrett, rifle meant for penetrating heavy vehicle armor)/SVT 40 if it's too hard
9. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG42_machine_gun
10. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Gun

USSOCOM = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_PP
Knife = Knife (Just make it look decent, and pick out something random from the history books)
Chainsaw = Hmmm, no idea
LAW = M1 Bazooka (Sounds just about right)

Fixed; Picked the weapons out at random, since we're talking about mercenaries.
And change the factions' names for crying out loud.
P.S: Remember that I chose these weapons for my idea, as in you making up an imaginative course for WW1, and a different WW2 happening.

Wait a sec... Those weapons is WW2. I'm not sure the mercenary are exist in WW2. But, that is good idea. And let see how MattH can make these weapon....


P.S.: What do you think about 1950's - 1960's weapon? Are they cool?
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: DarkCrusade on May 16, 2010, 02:13:26 am
You ... say there were no WW2 weapons at the time of your story, but your first post says something about 20XX :P
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 16, 2010, 09:50:15 am
You ... say there were no WW2 weapons at the time of your story, but your first post says something about 20XX :P

Whoops..... Sorry....  :-[  You right  :-\

I just follow the demoniac's idea. But, I still to some oldish weapon. Will I edit my 1st post?
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 16, 2010, 01:23:25 pm
Look, here's the essential idea:
We make up an alternative past, a different end to WW1 that could have led to mercenaries taking over, and then splitting into two factions that go to global scale war, WW2.
Get it?
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: DarkCrusade on May 16, 2010, 01:30:39 pm
Sounds really nice. Remember that you can plan this and that but you need to start someday and I'm curious what it'll look like :P
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 20, 2010, 08:00:30 pm
Look, here's the essential idea:
We make up an alternative past, a different end to WW1 that could have led to mercenaries taking over, and then splitting into two factions that go to global scale war, WW2.
Get it?

Hmm........ Sounds interresting... Okay, I'll start this mod with a early 1920's theme. Of course the weapons is form that era.

How about this timeline.

1918: End of World War I. German Empire gave their win against French and United States. British surrender to German and join in German alliance.

1919: Treaty of Versailles. British, and French must demilitarized their army. In addition, half the British troops should be sent and made volunteer army by the German Empire.

1920: New German Empire's mercenary group named "Schwarze Salamander" formed. This mercenary group will hire all ex- Heer soldier and allied of German Empire.

1922: Secretly, French hit due to the Versailles Treaty formed a new mercenary group to change their army. It named "Roza Mystica".

December 1922: German intel report a French have a United States weapons as their weapon standard issue. But one thing that is unknown by German intel. French have a mercenary group as their army.

1926: New German intel report. French can have United States weapons because they has signed a weapon treaty, named "Treaty of Jade Star".

Autumn 1930: Roza Mystica plan a pre-emptive attack against German Empire territory in next year.

June 1931: Roza Mystica attack German Empire. The German declare war to French.

Sorry for my bad english  :P
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 22, 2010, 09:35:51 am
Dude, less animals in the names.
As in no Salamanders xD
Just have the German/Brits have normal goons (As in soldiers) running around, while the US and France have mercs.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 22, 2010, 08:13:39 pm
Dude, less animals in the names.
As in no Salamanders xD
Just have the German/Brits have normal goons (As in soldiers) running around, while the US and France have mercs.

Hey, that's name is cool xD

Btw, I need more references about French weapon after WW1 to pre-war era.  Maybe this will similiar with MattH's Trenchwar Mod  :-\  Oh boy......
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: MattH on May 22, 2010, 08:24:02 pm
The Chauchat LMG (also know as the gladiator) the Ribeyrolle 1918 (which I am using for Undead Company) and the Hotchkiss Mle are all good weapons to use for soldat. Although I will say this, I can't let you use any of the weapons from my WWI mods, sorry, but that's just the way is gunna be.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 22, 2010, 08:43:52 pm
The Chauchat LMG (also know as the gladiator) the Ribeyrolle 1918 (which I am using for Undead Company) and the Hotchkiss Mle are all good weapons to use for soldat. Although I will say this, I can't let you use any of the weapons from my WWI mods, sorry, but that's just the way is gunna be.

Okay MattH. Maybe I must choose the Interface-gfx's artistn besides you. So I will not accused of copying yours.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 23, 2010, 11:39:33 am
Suggestion:
I wonder if Scout could lend us his gostek creating abilities so that we can solve the whole faction names thing, we keep it simple, Neo-Nazi militia, and Merc militia.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 24, 2010, 12:12:57 am
Suggestion:
I wonder if Scout could lend us his gostek creating abilities so that we can solve the whole faction names thing, we keep it simple, Neo-Nazi militia, and Merc militia.

Neo-Nazi? Well, no. Since German Empire win, Nazi are not formed and Hitler has promoted as Captain in German Army (not as Fuhrer). Oh yes, I hope smae as you.

Btw, I have imagination about German merc and French merc.


(http://en.diorama.ru/_img/content//gallery/2372/photo.jpg)

^Yes, like this a German merc uniform. But, they not wear hat like that. They wear helmut. And the color is dark grey.

(http://en.diorama.ru/_img/content//gallery/2472/photo.jpg)

^And this is a French merc. Like that, but the color is blue.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: -Skykanden- on May 24, 2010, 02:59:41 am
I think that you have no idea about what being a merc means

Try to look something more spec-ops from the WWI/WWII for the gostek because those look like soldiers
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 24, 2010, 07:10:00 am
Yeah, those do look like everyday army troopers, mercs are not part of an army.
Randomize their clothing.
And I said Neo-Nazi cause somewhere along the lines of our pseudo-past Hitler gets killed, and the leadership changes it's goals/motives/slogans/etc...
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: MattH on May 24, 2010, 08:26:33 am
Hehe. I love how the french soldier is from 1791-ish (note the muzzle loader) and the German has a bolt action rifle.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 24, 2010, 07:40:29 pm
Yeah, those do look like everyday army troopers, mercs are not part of an army.
Randomize their clothing.


(http://disney-clipart.com/Cars/Disney-Cars-Fillmore.jpg)

This is 1920's maaaan....... When the soldiers clothing look like 1910-ish

Everything is classic, maaan.........
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: demoniac93 on May 25, 2010, 05:22:46 am
Now you're just acting blandly bizarre...
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Mercenaries War
Post by: Ragman on May 27, 2010, 06:54:17 pm
Now you're just acting blandly bizarre...

Lol....

Now, I'm really cockin'. I need someone who will make me the guns in Interface-gfx + with their Weapos-gfx. Hope this list is usefull....

Schwarze Salamander

0. MG 08 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/MG_08_machine_gun.JPG/200px-MG_08_machine_gun.JPG)
1. Mondragon rifle (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Mondragón_rifle.jpg/300px-Mondragón_rifle.jpg)
2. MP18 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Bergmann_MP18.1.JPG/300px-Bergmann_MP18.1.JPG)
3. MP34 (http://www.hellboxarmory.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/MP34%20catjpg.jpg)
4. Lewis (http://www.sachem.edu/schools/seneca/socialstudies/guttman/per1/weapons/Lewis%20Gun_files/FWWlewisG.jpg)
5. Double barrelled shotgun (I dont know which model?)
6. Lee-Enfield (http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/lee-enfield.jpg)
7. L-39 Elephant (http://www.defensetech.org/images/L39.jpg)
8. Scoped Gewehr 98 (http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_6_25_2004_14_44_31/K98_scoped.jpg3ce27a30-8c9d-4e1a-b85d-3fe9eb4c9e64Large.jpg)
9. Madsen LMG (http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/kg/kg_bilder/madsen1914w.jpg)

Duh... I'm tired to type this. Its time to go to sleep