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Soldat Talk => Game Improvements / Suggestions => Topic started by: Yuth on June 11, 2006, 01:10:25 pm

Title: Advanced Jets
Post by: Yuth on June 11, 2006, 01:10:25 pm
I think the Jets are dull, there should be more movements to it than thrusting you upwards. I've played Soldat quite a while now, and I really think improving the Jets would improve the gameplay.

The movements could be as simple as; if you tap (Down Left x2) + pressing Jet, you'd fly downwards in that direction - Instead of just flying upwards (Which really is a pain in the ass).


Please comment this as you feel it's most comfortable.
  ;)


hold space and select direction? (up control stays the same.) although diagonals could be a bit tricky.

Yeah, maybe hold space to change direction of the Jets, good idea man.  ;)

[Hold Space + Arrow Key + Jet]

Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: F3nyx on June 11, 2006, 01:52:57 pm
Don't forget prone-jetting!  If used when not expected, it can be a very effective maneuver.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, it's not just thrusting upwards.  If you hold movement keys while jetting, the angle of your feet will shift and you'll jet in that direction.  It'd be cool to have more options, but the current system isn't as broken as you make it sound.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Demonic on June 11, 2006, 02:20:45 pm
I remember when I suggested this, it has already been suggested, which means this is an ancient idea.

That does not degrade it: a faster mean of travelling downwards would still be awesome, and provide opportunities for great dodge moves and fast getaways.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: vulbastick on June 11, 2006, 05:26:11 pm
the jetting should look more realistic than a guy standing still while hes moving through the air...

i iz up for this
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Wormdundee on June 11, 2006, 05:43:04 pm
I don't know. How would the soldat jet down if the jets are on his boots? Flip around or something?

It's something worth thinking about, but personally I would think it would make it too easy to dodge bullets.

And yeh, if you want to go down+left or down+right, you can just prone jet.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Dascoo on June 11, 2006, 06:17:03 pm
I suggested this also a long time ago.......with space also
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: BondJamesBond on June 11, 2006, 07:00:21 pm
Prone jet is good enough. It's kind of cool to do little rolls with the jet so it looks like you're rolling/hovering.

Experiment with the pack, lot's of fun stuff to do
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Yuth on June 11, 2006, 07:07:40 pm
Don't forget prone-jetting!  If used when not expected, it can be a very effective maneuver.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, it's not just thrusting upwards.  If you hold movement keys while jetting, the angle of your feet will shift and you'll jet in that direction.  It'd be cool to have more options, but the current system isn't as broken as you make it sound.

It's too slow.  :(

I remember when I suggested this, it has already been suggested, which means this is an ancient idea.

That does not degrade it: a faster mean of travelling downwards would still be awesome, and provide opportunities for great dodge moves and fast getaways.


That's right.  ;)

the jetting should look more realistic than a guy standing still while hes moving through the air...

i iz up for this


Yeah, the Soldat should probably sway as he's flying.  ;)

I don't know. How would the soldat jet down if the jets are on his boots? Flip around or something?

It's something worth thinking about, but personally I would think it would make it too easy to dodge bullets.

And yeh, if you want to go down+left or down+right, you can just prone jet.


The part from the knee to the foot would bend, pointing the jets 65 degrees so you'd be flying downwards. And yes, that's the point, making it easier to dodge bullets. Proning is a move of itself, proning in air while using this would make you go even faster.

I suggested this also a long time ago.......with space also

Good, it's a great idea. What do you mean by space?
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: a-4-year-old on June 11, 2006, 07:12:30 pm
hold space and select direction? (up control stays the same.) although diagonals could be a bit tricky.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: T-Bone on June 12, 2006, 03:31:46 am
ya...i would like to see some changes to jetting....it would be abused to run away with flags and the likes though
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Yuth on June 12, 2006, 05:50:26 am
ya...i would like to see some changes to jetting....it would be abused to run away with flags and the likes though

Remember, other players have the same ability as the ones which run away.  ;)
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: BondJamesBond on June 12, 2006, 05:57:08 am
ya...i would like to see some changes to jetting....it would be abused to run away with flags and the likes though
I say abusing the jets are impossible... How? How?? How do you abuse jets?
You cant!
So no changes - dont' fix it if it's not broken
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Dascoo on June 12, 2006, 06:32:27 am

Good, it's a great idea. What do you mean by space?

Space......zero gravity.....flying between two small planets or something like that.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: GAARAoftheDESERT on June 12, 2006, 12:51:03 pm
so, like, with the jetpack on ur back as oposed to ur feet?
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Wormdundee on June 12, 2006, 01:29:41 pm
Ah, so you could have a space map. That would be cool.

And you say you want it so that it's easier to dodge bullets. I think that it is already easy enough to dodge bullets. I'm just thinkin that if this happens, auto users will get another advantage, it won't matter as much to them because they have 20+ bullets to spray around. Someone using a ruger, barret, m79, or deagles will have a lot less chance of killing someone if they can do some jet move out of the way.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Graham on June 12, 2006, 10:55:01 pm
btw thanks for making this a poll :D
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: zyxstand on June 12, 2006, 11:25:59 pm
more maneuvering techinques makes any game great!
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Yuth on June 13, 2006, 04:30:47 pm
hold space and select direction? (up control stays the same.) although diagonals could be a bit tricky.

Yeah, maybe hold space to change direction of the Jets, good idea man.  ;)

[Hold Space + Arrow Key + Jet]



Good, it's a great idea. What do you mean by space?

Space......zero gravity.....flying between two small planets or something like that.

Right, but zero gravity spheres should be in the Map Maker.  ;)

so, like, with the jetpack on ur back as oposed to ur feet?

Yeah, that would be nice, but I'd perfer just using the Jet Boots.  ;)

btw thanks for making this a poll :D

He-He, no problem man. ;)

more maneuvering techinques makes any game great!

I pretty much agree with you there. ;)
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Keron Cyst on June 13, 2006, 04:51:03 pm
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more maneuvering techinques makes any game great!

I pretty much agree with you there. ;)

... until there become so many abilities that people start trying to hack by performing multiple movements simultaneously and people think they're cheating, etc....

Why do you always use bold-face, Yuth? It's annoying.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Elemental on June 13, 2006, 05:58:32 pm
I dont really think we should advance jets, but maybe we can still do with some other type of advancement..like when the blackflip was put in.
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Field Marshal on June 13, 2006, 09:21:25 pm
I think it would be awesome if when you hold down jets your soldat would fly wherever your mouse is, not juse left and right but diagonal and straight down too. Just my two cents :)
Title: Re: Advanced Jets
Post by: Tacklebeast666 on June 13, 2006, 10:53:20 pm
aw field marsh, when you got that complete saga icon on your signature, i got excited and clicked on it....but then i realized it's still not out yet :( not cool man...i want that mod so much.