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Soldat Talk => General Discussions => Topic started by: SoldatFire on February 25, 2011, 06:04:50 pm
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M4-Carbine from v0.97b.
Hi. So i never seen before the m4 from Soldat till today and I'm wondering why it got removed?And why should it not be returned to life..
So give your ideas and suggestions...
PS.This was the weapon: http://wiki.soldat.nl/M4-Carbine (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4492/m4int2.png)
and i found 1 more "dead" weapon: http://wiki.soldat.nl/Colt_1911
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http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=39723.0;topicseen
why creating 2 topics ?
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Cause he failed at adding poll to the first one...
On topic - I don't really care about it but I'd rather leave aug.
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http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=39723.0;topicseen
why creating 2 topics ?
yes i got a problem"not cause of poll" and and at end i got 2 topics and i send a message to the admins/moderators to remove the one...
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I don't see a reason why M4 should be brought back. Actually, I don't think M4 was ever removed in the first place - it was just remade into Steyr AUG. :P
Visually Steyr AUG fits Soldat arsenal much better. Unlike M4 (which is closer to MP5 and AK in its shape), AUG has a very unique shape, so it adds more variety than M4 would. M4 just looks kinda generic - every single modern-warfare shooter has a similar gun.
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M4 was remade to Aug in terms of appearance, probably for the reason Loner stated.
Colt 1911 was changed to USSOCOM for the obvious reason of keeping things a bit realistic and updated. Colt 1911 is a .45 pistol with 7 ammo. MM probably wanted to buff the pistol by adding more ammo. To make sense of the change, the 7-ammo Colt 1911 is replaced with the more modern USSOCOM, another .45 pistol but with 12 ammo.
If you still want the M4, you can just change the Aug to the M4 by modding. Afterall, the two would have been the same gun balance-wise.
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What would you prefer to have:
This sexy beast (http://www.securityarms.com/photos/1277831313.jpg)
Or this generic US rifle
(http://www.colt22rimfire.com/uploads/images/m4carbine/right.jpg)
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The generic US rifle looks better.
Does anyone have the GFX/SFX of this still?
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yeah sfx and gfx would be cool :)
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Correction.
Which would you rather have:
(http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/graphics/m4_right.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mzeaY-VMqh8/S6PAteM3duI/AAAAAAAAAKE/Jvh_tYbtRpI/s320/steyr_aug.jpg)
(Just felt like I needed to post that, because you posted a pic of a 22lr M4)
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Steyr still looks better. :P
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What L[0ne]R said.
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nobody should care about the wepons how they look... u can remove all on ur own and take other graphics... so its pointless...since u anyway can do it for ur own soldat :)
PAW!
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Well, default looks should be cared at, because it's the ORIGINAL Soldat, and that's what newbies see.
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The M4 looks better for me..
maybe the minigun should be removed cause it is somthing like a... spam lag "noob" weapon maybe remove it and add m4 so like:
1.DE
2.HK
3.AK
4.M4
5.AUG
6.SPAS
7.RUGER
8.M79
9.FNminimi( maybe now with 100 amma like the real :-\ )
10.Barrett
???
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Or maybe, the devs working hard to improve bugs will help minigun by improving the netcode a bit.
Minimi have 100 ammo!? Are you serious? 50 is already bordering on too much :L
And don't change the numbers!!
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The Minigun is a very nice gun which adds a lot of diversity to the game. You can minigun-surf to gain pace which helps you taking down EFCs or score. On the other hand, you can use it to block routes and it can kill very fast if you just know how to aim it. Most players don't play a lot with the Minigun, so they cannot use its whole potential. So my advice is: learn to play.
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9.FNminimi( maybe now with 100 amma like the real :-\ )
No. it'd be closer to the real one, BUT:
#1, (minimi) it would create balance issues.
#2, (minimi) if the balance is given, minimi would practically be another minigun.
#3, (minimi) it's already being discussed (or maybe it happened already) that minimi needs a nerf.
#4, (soldat) mucking around the numbers like that is mindless.
#5, (M4) why a step back?
#6, (M4) another generic auto? no thanks, i like minigun, when teh lulz is needed. besides, (ego +1) I'm one of those rare guys who play (realistic) minigun with skill.
#7, (@DarkCrusade) exactly
tl;dr: No.
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..the balance is good there´s no need to add/del anything right now.
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9.FNminimi( maybe now with 100 amma like the real :-\ )
Stopped giving a shit just about here, are you out of your goddamn mind?
And no, leave the Steyr as it is, it's the sexiest killer of them all.
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ok ok FNminimi with 100 bullets is dumb idea but what about removing the minigun with m4 and doing it like i said before?
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quoting myself:
#5, (M4) why a step back?
#6, (M4) another generic auto? no thanks, i like minigun, when teh lulz is needed. besides, (ego +1) I'm one of those rare guys who play (realistic) minigun with skill.
#7, (@DarkCrusade) exactly
tl;dr: No.
and i wasn't the only one, so, again:
No.
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And fix your poll options, it's either yes or no.
"I don't know" is just a waste of cyberspace.
And as said before, if you don't like the Steyr go find someone to make you an M4 conversion or do it yourself.
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Why must you replace an existing weapon? If you want an M4 or whatever then suggest that as a new weapon.
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Why must you replace an existing weapon? If you want an M4 or whatever then suggest that as a new weapon.
I'd assume you're talking about modding when you talk about "replace". (even though I know full well you're referring to "replace minigun with m4")
I have no real issue with having new weapons in Soldat, but my question is whether it would be any different from the existing weapons and therefore whether that would enhance Soldat's gameplay. I cannot agree with a simple "I WANT AN M4" without elaboration on how this M4 can be implemented into the game without being essentially another one of the existing autos, in which I'd rather just suggest the user modded his own weapons or we add some kind of ability to choose the skin of your weapon in the weapon menu itself.
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Could add an m4 with burst fire, shooting 3 shots at a time.
New to soldat, and besides the m4 looks sexy.
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add some kind of ability to choose the skin of your weapon in the weapon menu itself.
Now there's something worth looking into.
@TheV: A burst fire mode would not only need some coding, I suppose, but also a lot of balancing.
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@TheV: A burst fire mode would not only need some coding, I suppose, but also a lot of balancing.
Yeah, if it requires any sort of effort it's not worth putting in the game. oO
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@TheV: A burst fire mode would not only need some coding, I suppose, but also a lot of balancing.
Yeah, if it requires any sort of effort it's not worth putting in the game. oO
No, but if the time put into it could've been invested in fixing bugs, Soldat would be playable again.
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@TheV: A burst fire mode would not only need some coding, I suppose, but also a lot of balancing.
Yeah, if it requires any sort of effort it's not worth putting in the game. oO
No, but if the time put into it could've been invested in fixing bugs, Soldat would be playable again.
Wow would be playable again wow i wonder what that mans or it doesn't mean anything :o
ps.the burst one is way better
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@TheV: A burst fire mode would not only need some coding, I suppose, but also a lot of balancing.
Yeah, if it requires any sort of effort it's not worth putting in the game. oO
No, but if the time put into it could've been invested in fixing bugs, Soldat would be playable again.
Wow would be playable again wow i wonder what that mans or it doesn't mean anything :o
ps.the burst one is way better
It means I could play it without having to swear my tongue off every 5 minutes over some fucked up BE kick or netcode glitch.
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@TheV: A burst fire mode would not only need some coding, I suppose, but also a lot of balancing.
Yeah, if it requires any sort of effort it's not worth putting in the game. oO
No, but if the time put into it could've been invested in fixing bugs, Soldat would be playable again.
Wow would be playable again wow i wonder what that mans or it doesn't mean anything :o
ps.the burst one is way better
It means I could play it without having to swear my tongue off every 5 minutes over some f**ked up BE kick or netcode glitch.
i don't got that my soldat runs fine Connect fine and evrything :-\
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It means I could play it without having to swear my tongue off every 5 minutes over some f**ked up BE kick or netcode glitch.
That's true, but it'll take awhile 'til most bugs are fixed, so might as well spice it up with a new feature or two, so we don't get bored while waiting for bugs to be fixed. :P
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Yep a new feature would be awesome :)