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Title: Energy Drinks
Post by: KYnetiK on April 01, 2011, 03:34:04 am
Ive never really been a fan for any of these hyper-caffeinated, taurine drinks. Not only do they further undermine the toxicity of so-called 'soft' drinks, but the marketing circus that surrounds them (as well as the enthusiasm of those whom are bulk consumers of it) I find just revoltingly tacky.

Now I work in a bar in a 24 hour casino/hotel complex and the patrons and staff are no strangers to Red Bull, Rockstars and Monsters. To see people drinking near 3 times the daily dosage so casually is simply alarming. Just because a can says a limit of 2 per day doesnt mean drinking 2 every day is doing your body any good. Having observed the culture from a bar, the way these drinks have permeated into our lives reminds me of a cancerous growth.

And just when I thought my cynicism on the topic had made me totally convinced that these drinks were manufactured from nothing more than Satans urine itself, this (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/04/man-finds-mouse-in-his-monster-energy-can/) happened. Call me suspicious, but I dont think the added protein offers any health advantages.


The highlighting of the inherent flaws of mass production within a debt-based economy aside, this just signed and sealed my own sardonic views on energy drinks. But what about yours?

What's your view on 'energy drinks' ?
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: L[0ne]R on April 01, 2011, 04:08:07 am
All I heard is that they can be bad for your health, but that's it. I don't see much harm in having them once in a while when you really need them. Drinking too many of them on a regular basis would be stupid, but then if you have health problems later - it's your own fault. Same with alcoholism, smoking and lots of junk food, which IMHO are far worse since more people make them a habit at younger age.

Personally, I never really had to resort to energy drinks except 3-4 times during college, and even then they didn't seem to affect me much. AFAIK Red Bull is the strongest one of them because it's the only one that had a noticeable effect on me, but it was only enough to postpone sleepiness for a few hours, after which I'd feel like I normally feel after pulling an all-nighter, except my body was a little shakier than normal.
Our college didn't even allow selling Red Bull there because of the amount of caffeine in it. Most people just bought coffee at Tim Hortons instead and didn't seem to complain.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: 12th_account on April 01, 2011, 04:13:41 am
I love'em. Drank two Red Bulls most weekdays in college. I never really felt much energized after them, I just drank it for that lovely taste. And they go great with booze and pizza, so you'll always want to have some around.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 01, 2011, 05:02:55 am
I f**king go nuts. I buy a monster each day before school. It isn't rare for me to order "two red bulls" when I go out to eat at restaurants and sip them one after the other. At lan parties I f**king chug them consecutively.

At this point it's gotten to be that caffeine has a calming effect on me, as opposed to getting me pumped up. Sometimes it makes headaches go away, which is worrying since it hints at a caffeine addiction. :x

At this rate, I really hope I make it past 19.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: KYnetiK on April 01, 2011, 05:24:48 am
Who knows jgrp, you might get lucky... perhaps chemicals produced from a decaying mouse dissolved in a carbonated taurine solution may actually prevent the biochemistry of your body from collapsing altogether.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 01, 2011, 09:51:26 am
I knew a guy in high school who didn't eat but drank 6 energy drinks each day.  He actually vomited the first time he tried solid food (after that) because his body just wasn't used to it.

For my own part, I try to stay the heck away from energy drinks (and soda in general, for that matter).  While I have no proof that they're awful for you, I can't shake the feeling that they are.  I only turn to energy drinks once or twice a year now, and that's when I absolutely HAVE to stay up all night (long drive, studying, etc.)

Oh, and the mouse thing could happen to any canned good, not just energy drinks.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: ds dude on April 01, 2011, 10:33:40 am
I drink all the varieties of monster except the zero calorie one, and rockstar.

Oh, and I also drink this which is really tasty to me.

(http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/513/imagestarbucksdoublesho.jpg) (http://img858.imageshack.us/i/imagestarbucksdoublesho.jpg/)

Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 01, 2011, 10:48:16 am
I knew a guy in high school who didn't eat but drank 6 energy drinks each day.  He actually vomited the first time he tried solid food (after that) because his body just wasn't used to it.

Can you tell us more about him? I'm curious. He seriously never ate but lived off energy drinks? Full time? That sounds mildly amazing.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: dnmr on April 01, 2011, 10:54:43 am
I knew a guy in high school who didn't eat but drank 6 energy drinks each day.  He actually vomited the first time he tried solid food (after that) because his body just wasn't used to it.

Can you tell us more about him? I'm curious. He seriously never ate but lived off energy drinks? Full time? That sounds mildly amazing.
i knew a guy who had a red bull IV bag with him at all times
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on April 01, 2011, 10:59:05 am
in spring 2009 I set out to lose the weight I gained in college.  I did it by eating slightly healthier and smaller portions (and not eating just out of boredom), but mostly I lost the weight (~25lbs) just by cutting out soda and caffiene from my diet.  That was almost entirely responsible for my weight loss, I barely had to do anything besides that.

They're really bad for your body's regulation of sleep and blood sugar, and regularizing those things makes it trivial to be healthy
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: zakath on April 01, 2011, 10:59:21 am
http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-2359ef71e13d9777862aa21aa642a1f0 <--- this is what I drink when partying ;)
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: bhs on April 01, 2011, 11:00:24 am
I have been caffeine free for a few years now, and I would suggest it to anyone who admits they have the bad habit.

I f**king go nuts. I buy a monster each day before school. It isn't rare for me to order "two red bulls" when I go out to eat at restaurants and sip them one after the other. At lan parties I f**king chug them consecutively.

At this point it's gotten to be that caffeine has a calming effect on me, as opposed to getting me pumped up. Sometimes it makes headaches go away, which is worrying since it hints at a caffeine addiction. :x

At this rate, I really hope I make it past 19.
You've pretty much just admitted you're completely addicted to them, and don't drink them for the caffeine rush. There is no time like now to start dropping them or reduce them to start.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Fryer on April 01, 2011, 11:19:56 am
I've never consumed energy drinks or been in a situation when I seriously would need to.
Maybe I'll drink one some day for some random reason, but I have no plans on making it into a habit.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on April 01, 2011, 11:39:38 am
I have been caffeine free for a few years now, and I would suggest it to anyone who admits they have the bad habit.

I f**king go nuts. I buy a monster each day before school. It isn't rare for me to order "two red bulls" when I go out to eat at restaurants and sip them one after the other. At lan parties I f**king chug them consecutively.

At this point it's gotten to be that caffeine has a calming effect on me, as opposed to getting me pumped up. Sometimes it makes headaches go away, which is worrying since it hints at a caffeine addiction. :x

At this rate, I really hope I make it past 19.
You've pretty much just admitted you're completely addicted to them, and don't drink them for the caffeine rush. There is no time like now to start dropping them or reduce them to start.

I agree completely, I've been telling Joe for a year or two now that he needs to take it easy with those because at this point he's just feeding his body's physical dependency.

edit: yes, what you described is classic caffeine addiction.  You need to ween yourself off it and stop drinking those energy drinks.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 01, 2011, 11:48:54 am
I knew a guy in high school who didn't eat but drank 6 energy drinks each day.  He actually vomited the first time he tried solid food (after that) because his body just wasn't used to it.

Can you tell us more about him? I'm curious. He seriously never ate but lived off energy drinks? Full time? That sounds mildly amazing.

I can't, really; this was in high school (so 6-7 years ago), and he was more of an acquaintance than a friend.  But yeah, he was rail thin and always had a Monster in his hand.  Not a good way to live.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: demoniac93 on April 01, 2011, 11:56:17 am
When I REALLY need a boost, I just put two extra tea spoons of sugar in my morning Espresso, but that's it.
I only drink "energy" drinks when flying or going or very long hikes.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Shard on April 01, 2011, 12:47:53 pm
Have 2 cans of Monster Energy every weekend when I play games in the evening. I get no buzz or kick, just really hungery. Coffe tends to do the same. I get hotter quciker ans sweat easier too.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Monsteri on April 01, 2011, 02:42:26 pm
Everybody are loving and drinking me >:( Except I of course.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: SadistAtHeart on April 01, 2011, 02:57:28 pm
Not exactly a health nut, but I won't touch this shit with a 12-foot-pole. Would just as soon drink Tiberium from Command & Conquer.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Monsteri on April 01, 2011, 03:02:33 pm
Quote
Command & Conquer.
*haves the original Command & Conquer in CD and many, many other later ones too.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 01, 2011, 03:49:32 pm
in spring 2009 I set out to lose the weight I gained in college.  I did it by eating slightly healthier and smaller portions (and not eating just out of boredom), but mostly I lost the weight (~25lbs) just by cutting out soda and caffiene from my diet.  That was almost entirely responsible for my weight loss, I barely had to do anything besides that.

They're really bad for your body's regulation of sleep and blood sugar, and regularizing those things makes it trivial to be healthy

Is there a health difference between normal soda and "diet"/zero-calorie soda?

You need to ween yourself off it and stop drinking those energy drinks.

I'll try to get to it sooner or later. I'm sure hearing me say that is annoying, but I can't drop it right now.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on April 01, 2011, 04:08:08 pm
Diet is better in terms of the blood sugar regulation, but the caffeine is still going to have the same effect - and your caffeine addiction is something that should be addressed
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 01, 2011, 04:25:59 pm
You could try drinking caffeine-free soda (I think Sprite and some root beers are that way by default) and hope for a placebo calming effect.

Incidentally, why can't you drop the drinking right now? Since you're not using caffeine for the energy rush, it can't be because of short nights or something like that.  What's the holdup?
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 01, 2011, 04:37:35 pm
Incidentally, why can't you drop the drinking right now? Since you're not using caffeine for the energy rush, it can't be because of short nights or something like that.  What's the holdup?

Well, I usually get around 3 hours of sleep per night on school nights and without the monster I sleep through first period, which is really bad since it's the one class I can't afford to sleep in.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 01, 2011, 04:46:56 pm
GET MORE.  There is nothing that you as a high schooler could be so involved in that it requires 21 hours of your day, every day.

I have a full time job, judo/DDR nights, piano practice, meal preparation and eating, and exercise every morning and I STILL get 7 hours of sleep each night, minimum.

You're a smart guy, so I KNOW that it's not homework that's keeping you up.  You're not in any sports that would require several hours of commitment each evening.  You're not the type to go out drinking or something every night.

What the heck do you do every day that keeps you from sleeping like a healthy person?
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Espadon on April 01, 2011, 04:49:32 pm
Porn farming.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 01, 2011, 04:55:15 pm
That was my first thought too, but I was hoping to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 01, 2011, 06:02:30 pm
That was my first thought too, but I was hoping to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Well, I'm sometimes out with my friend Ricky till 2am (I wake up at like 5am) so that's one reason. When I'm not chilling with him way late, I'm doing computer/soldat stuff. And yes, some of that includes fapping/cybering/cam'ing/torrenting.

In any case, I feel going to bed before 2am to be an extreme waste of time.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: a-4-year-old on April 01, 2011, 06:20:17 pm
Sleeping is free, jrgp
caffeine is not it has to be bought
If money is something that you aren't making
at ungodly hours you're better off sleeping
You'll live longer, feel better and look better too
and maybe your keyboard won't be covered in goo

tl;dr go to bed damnit.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 01, 2011, 06:41:27 pm
In any case, I feel going to bed before 2am to be an extreme waste of time.

jrgp, I'm only 22.  Do NOT make me think, "Darn kids have no common sense.  When will they just grow up already?"  Because it makes me feel old and I'm NOT.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: ds dude on April 01, 2011, 07:07:19 pm
I stay up until 12 am on school nights.

I also understand what jrgp means, I feel like I'm wasting my day if I go to sleep at like 9 pm.. so I stay up.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Blacksheepboy on April 01, 2011, 07:41:38 pm
Have 2 cans of Monster Energy every weekend when I play games in the evening. I get no buzz or kick, just really hungery. Coffe tends to do the same. I get hotter quciker ans sweat easier too.

This happens to me when listening to super intense rave music. And no, I am not addicted to super intense rave music, but I listen to a little 4 hours every day including Groundhog's day. But no, I do not have an addiction.

Anyway, energy drinks... haven't had one in years. It was cool to drink them when I was in high school. Now I look back and see that cool was really a synonym for dumb.


Sleeping is free, jrgp
caffeine is not it has to be bought
If money is something that you aren't making
at ungodly hours you're better off sleeping
You'll live longer, feel better and look better too
and maybe your keyboard won't be covered in goo

tl;dr go to bed damnit.

I second this motion. Hell, I go to bed at 12 and get up at 9 every day, but that's because I'm on vacation. I have an excuse.

When did someone decide to turn this thread into a self-help for jrgp? Hi jrgp. That bmp. girl still thinks you're cute, and she hasn't changed her posture in the last 4 months either. I think she has the cramps by now. Damn, did what I just say sound mean or what? Shit, I did not mean it with a bad connotation...
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: FliesLikeABrick on April 01, 2011, 08:51:59 pm
Incidentally, why can't you drop the drinking right now? Since you're not using caffeine for the energy rush, it can't be because of short nights or something like that.  What's the holdup?

Well, I usually get around 3 hours of sleep per night on school nights and without the monster I sleep through first period, which is really bad since it's the one class I can't afford to sleep in.

Right, that's an important part of the problem . You need to be getting more sleep.  Someone your age is supposed to be getting 9 or 10 hours/night because you're still growing.

You're really f**king yourself.


More sleep.  No caffeine.  Go do it.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on April 02, 2011, 11:06:02 am
When did someone decide to turn this thread into a self-help for jrgp?

ALL threads turn into self-help for jgrp because he makes posts like "I only sleep three hours each night" or "here I am, watching HD porn at my friend's house" or "here's a picture of my keyboard, the unfortunate victim of the aforementioned porn watching."  You know, crazy stuff like that that makes us all go, "Wait, WHAT?"
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Clawbug on April 02, 2011, 11:11:28 am
ES KÄDES OSTARIN LÄPI VITTU ET KUUMOTTI

Sorry, I had to.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 02, 2011, 11:23:15 am
ES KÄDES OSTARIN LÄPI VITTU ET KUUMOTTI

Sorry, I had to.

Google translate didn't work on that. What does it say?

ALL threads turn into self-help for jgrp because he makes posts like "I only sleep three hours each night" or "here I am, watching HD porn at my friend's house" or "here's a picture of my keyboard, the unfortunate victim of the aforementioned porn watching."  You know, crazy stuff like that that makes us all go, "Wait, WHAT?"

Well, at least some hilarity always seems to ensue.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Jerkington XIII on April 02, 2011, 12:37:48 pm
ES KÄDES OSTARIN LÄPI VITTU ET KUUMOTTI

Sorry, I had to.
Google translate didn't work on that. What does it say?
thru the mall ES[euro shopper energy drink] in hand oh f**k how embarassing. (not a really direct translation)
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: Dusty on April 02, 2011, 03:56:05 pm
lol claw
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: PANZERCATWAGON on April 02, 2011, 08:20:56 pm
gotta have me some pussy

(http://www.missionmission.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pussy-energy-drink.jpg)
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: demoniac93 on April 03, 2011, 07:39:04 am
gotta have me some pussy

(http://www.missionmission.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pussy-energy-drink.jpg)

Now that's a drink I wouldn't want to be caught holding in my hands O.o
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 03, 2011, 10:13:55 am
gotta have me some pussy

(http://www.missionmission.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pussy-energy-drink.jpg)

Now that's a drink I wouldn't want to be caught holding in my hands O.o

Why not? If they sold that here, I could definitely see taking it to school, just to see everyone's reaction.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jerich on April 03, 2011, 10:28:01 am
In any case, I feel going to bed before 2am to be an extreme waste of time.

Buying a monster everyday in the morning is also a waste of money. You can knock two birds with one stone by getting enough sleep to be healthier PLUS not buying monster to be better financially.

think about it. multiply the amount it cost for a monster drink by 365 since you probably drink it everyday. Also that's assuming you only buy ONE.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: demoniac93 on April 03, 2011, 01:51:11 pm
gotta have me some pussy

(http://www.missionmission.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/pussy-energy-drink.jpg)

Now that's a drink I wouldn't want to be caught holding in my hands O.o

Why not? If they sold that here, I could definitely see taking it to school, just to see everyone's reaction.

Let's just say that I'm not too eager to be getting any more nicknames...
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 03, 2011, 02:42:20 pm
Let's just say that I'm not too eager to be getting any more nicknames...

What, "pussy-juice drinker"? I think that's indicative of things that a certain gender likes.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: demoniac93 on April 03, 2011, 02:52:40 pm
Let's just say that I'm not too eager to be getting any more nicknames...

What, "pussy-juice drinker"? I think that's indicative of things that a certain gender likes.

Nah, but I once almost got caught pleasing myself halfway through biology, cause my teacher was a knockout, and I was stressed as fuck. And killing the rumors than ensued was a bitch. So I don't want to be picking up anything off from the past.
Title: Re: Energy Drinks
Post by: jrgp on April 03, 2011, 03:12:14 pm
Nah, but I once almost got caught pleasing myself halfway through biology, cause my teacher was a knockout, and I was stressed as f**k. And killing the rumors than ensued was a b***h. So I don't want to be picking up anything off from the past.

You could just tell them that anyone not jacking off at sight of your stunning science teacher is an epic ***got with a severe hormone disorder.

That's what I'd say, at least.