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Title: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: xiangpan64 on February 24, 2014, 11:03:41 am
I love playing Soldat, but wouldn't it be cool if Soldat Could be on Steam? I think a $15 price tag and a option for group buy would be nice, I would definitely buy it! Anyone else thinking about it? I been wanting Soldat on Steam for some time now, what do you guys think? ???
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Shoozza on February 24, 2014, 11:12:18 am
There are a few steam request threads on this forum already, all i can say atm is that soldat is not ready for steam.
Some game breaking bugs need to be fixed before can think about steam (microlags, fullscreen windows 8 issue, fps issues, bad gui to name a few).
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: or29544 on February 14, 2015, 10:09:14 am
I would definitely buy this game if it were on steam. It's just perfect. No bullshit, no useless 3D, just plain fun action. You *need* to make this title available on steam.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: nosejj on February 14, 2015, 12:16:18 pm
I would definitely buy this game if it were on steam. It's just perfect. No bullshit, no useless 3D, just plain fun action. You *need* to make this title available on steam.
This.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: jrgp on February 14, 2015, 08:57:55 pm
I would definitely buy this game if it were on steam. It's just perfect. No bullshit, no useless 3D, just plain fun action. You *need* to make this title available on steam.
I would definitely buy this game if it were on steam. It's just perfect. No bullshit, no useless 3D, just plain fun action. You *need* to make this title available on steam.
This.

What's the point of being on an internet forum if you don't know how to read? Look what shoozza said. He gave actual reasons why it isn't on steam:

There are a few steam request threads on this forum already, all i can say atm is that soldat is not ready for steam.
Some game breaking bugs need to be fixed before can think about steam (microlags, fullscreen windows 8 issue, fps issues to name a few).
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: CheeSeMan. on February 15, 2015, 06:30:36 am
As it has been said many times before and as Shoozza just pointed out, unless you can download Soldat and install on any windows OS/hardware and then not have to spent 1 hour messing with settings to make it work there is not much point pushing Soldat onto steam. We would just receive a load of negative feedback which will not help the game :(
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Name on February 17, 2015, 01:37:24 am
Soldat is supposed to be an indie game and Steam is just a useless middle hand. I don't see what good it would do forcing players to go via Steam and I've had trouble myself with most games I bought where I had to download from Steam. Same goes for Origin btw. I don't know wtf is happening to the game market.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Shoozza on February 17, 2015, 03:02:39 am
Soldat is already on Desura (not that anyone cares) but I think people hope Steam will give the game additional visibility.
I actually prefer if I can install games without DRM.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: v1pclan5 on April 07, 2016, 01:25:41 pm
Sure there are some bugs, but you could put it to "early accses"..
In this state it is allready on steam, and nobody cares about the few bugs..
AND it would help to find new bugs and to delete them
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: TheOne on April 08, 2016, 06:07:34 am
Early Access 4 life!
that way you don't need to fix bugs at all ;)
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Falcon` on April 08, 2016, 09:12:11 am
"Early Access" on 14 years old game sounds like the release is gonna happen somewhere in the next century.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Fawkzy on April 08, 2016, 10:12:13 am
Soldat is done already. Devs will just keep releasing patches and call it a day.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: v1pclan5 on April 08, 2016, 12:21:57 pm
"Early Access" on 14 years old game sounds like the release is gonna happen somewhere in the next century.

dont be so negative :D

if you wanna spend some time for new content, it would sounds like a re-release with big future plans 8-)
some ideas..
- steam workshop
- ^ mod tools
- new content for map makers
- ranking list system // matchmaking ,where you have with friends nice challenges :D


Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: daaw on April 08, 2016, 12:42:28 pm
Meh soldat..it's dead, but this new Soldat HD, the spiritual high-res refactored remake of original Soldat game released in 2002, thats what we talking about here.

In greenlight FAQ it says even if it doesnt get accepted it still stays there..
so it means... it will kinda be on Steam anyways.. .. .
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: v1pclan5 on April 09, 2016, 06:16:29 am
So, why dont give it a try Falcon ?
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Falcon` on April 09, 2016, 11:33:19 am
It's not my decision to make
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Name on April 09, 2016, 04:39:58 pm
I would make the decision not to join.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: v1pclan5 on April 12, 2016, 06:43:28 am
I would make the decision not to join.

Why not? ^^
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: machina on April 12, 2016, 10:43:17 am
Except fixing some more important bugs those Shoozza named, there is also another matter requiring discussion.

What impression do we want to make on a newbie player who just installed the game? Such one is rather used to one-click-to-join-me-and-my-friends-to-some-server-where-we-don't-get-owned-immediately. Soldat doesn't have it and I doubt ever have it. Skill might be measured only by some system of fair matchmaking and that would require maintaining servers to perform such thing. Not to mention the whole MMR-like system, account system, other shit.

So Soldat is about to remain as it is... With a list of available servers where player has to search a place to play for himself. Picking some random one where he gets killed on the spot.

Basically, I'm a bit afraid that we won't get as many new players as we would dream to have. This is why Soldat is a previous gaming era thing. Not a casual game nor oversimplified in joining an online game.
Title: SOLDAT is ready for STEAM.
Post by: SIDWULF on May 14, 2016, 08:05:53 pm
I am a SOLDAT vet and I came back to play this update.

And I'm thinking to myself.

You guys would literally be rolling around in millions if you put this shit on STEAM

I GUARENTEE SOLDAT would make it to the Top Sellers list on the first few pages.

Price it at $15

SOLDAT would go viral!

There is only 30 people playing online right now. This is sad. There would be HUNDREDS if SOLDAT was on STEAM.

You deserve so much recognition and $$$ for this amazing, unique, no bullshit game that I spent much of my younger days enjoying.

Moderated: Merged with existing thread. [Calp]
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: CCalp on May 15, 2016, 06:22:11 am
Hey Sidwulf! Glad you found your way (back) to the forums :-) I do think similar than you but as you can see (in this thread for instance) the developers (i.e. Shoozza mainly) don't want to publish Soldat on Steam yet. However, I do think that this is a topic we should not lose sight of.
I merged your thread with the existing thread about that topic, and if you use the forum search you'll be able to find loads of posts about that discussion...
Title: Re: SOLDAT is ready for STEAM.
Post by: Polux on May 18, 2016, 02:42:42 pm
I am a SOLDAT vet and I came back to play this update.

And I'm thinking to myself.

You guys would literally be rolling around in millions if you put this shit on STEAM

I GUARENTEE SOLDAT would make it to the Top Sellers list on the first few pages.

Price it at $15

SOLDAT would go viral!

There is only 30 people playing online right now. This is sad. There would be HUNDREDS if SOLDAT was on STEAM.

You deserve so much recognition and $$$ for this amazing, unique, no bullshit game that I spent much of my younger days enjoying.

Moderated: Merged with existing thread. [Calp]


The 10 of this month my friends gather online, because we are in all over the country, because was my birthday and we play this fckn game since college... i am from south america, Chile.. we were like 300 player in this country...  South america much more.. 

always when i talk about gameplay i quote soldat... just pure action... 

I really believe if you take it to steam will be a success and money never is that bad when it comes like a river... 


and... i really need more people to play   =(   


PD:  i´m 32 now...  i was playing since i dont know 23 24? maybe less... i cant remember well...  and i just register for this!



 [fist]
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Home on May 24, 2016, 05:03:20 pm
 I do not think it can work with a price tag. Is has been always free and people would ask why you would have to pay for it now. Only option I see for a price tag is making some kind of big overhaul, name it Soldat 2 or Soldat HD and release it then. Or, release at Early Access and put the money into the development of the game.
Title: Re: SOLDAT is ready for STEAM.
Post by: v1pclan5 on May 28, 2016, 01:55:08 pm
I am a SOLDAT vet and I came back to play this update.

And I'm thinking to myself.

You guys would literally be rolling around in millions if you put this shit on STEAM

I GUARENTEE SOLDAT would make it to the Top Sellers list on the first few pages.

Price it at $15

SOLDAT would go viral!

There is only 30 people playing online right now. This is sad. There would be HUNDREDS if SOLDAT was on STEAM.

You deserve so much recognition and $$$ for this amazing, unique, no bullshit game that I spent much of my younger days enjoying.

Moderated: Merged with existing thread. [Calp]

Soo true !!
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: TehKAMI on May 28, 2016, 02:21:39 pm
If bunch of utter garbage that Jim Sterling is covering on YouTube can make its way to Steam, I don't see why Soldat (a pretty decent game) couldn't be released on Steam and do well.

Release it as free to play with an added option to upgrade to the full version. This way the game comes to Steam as well as keeps true to its shareware roots.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: L[0ne]R on May 28, 2016, 07:55:35 pm
While Soldat isn't exactly ready to be on Steam as a final release, I think it maybe a good time to push it to Early Access. Each time a product is released on Steam, be it a final release or Early Access - it gets a little boost of publicity as it gets listed in the "new releases" on the front page. Soldat should take advantage of Early Access for that extra bit of publicity, as well as a new autoupdate platform and possibly Steam Workshop support.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: darDar on May 28, 2016, 08:38:36 pm
The Early Access 'Store' is supposed to be for alpha/beta/... staged games, to get bugs reported, suggestions gathered and build a community of interested people. Soldat, a 14 years old game, where 99% of the bugs are known to the devs, the forums are overloaded with suggestions and simply the fact that it's NOT in alpha/beta/... stage as the matter of the fact that it was released 14 years ago, should be enough to not qualify it for !Early! Access. I'm always happy of any kind of PR that would help Soldat, but not by putting it on places where it does not belong to. If you want to get this game on STEAM, there are a few things which need to be done first and all of them are known (making the whole game more user friendly, accounts/stats/achievements, new menu, anti-cheat, less 'eats' (better netcode), auto-updater, global visual theme).
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: homerofgods on May 29, 2016, 07:32:13 am
The Early Access 'Store' is supposed to be for alpha/beta/... staged games, to get bugs reported, suggestions gathered and build a community of interested people. Soldat, a 14 years old game, where 99% of the bugs are known to the devs, the forums are overloaded with suggestions and simply the fact that it's NOT in alpha/beta/... stage as the matter of the fact that it was released 14 years ago, should be enough to not qualify it for !Early! Access. I'm always happy of any kind of PR that would help Soldat, but not by putting it on places where it does not belong to. If you want to get this game on STEAM, there are a few things which need to be done first and all of them are known (making the whole game more user friendly, accounts/stats/achievements, new menu, anti-cheat, less 'eats' (better netcode), auto-updater, global visual theme).

I agree. And what makes us automatically think that if soldat were on steam we would get more players? Could it be that what we actually want is all the things darDar mentioned here, and we assume that if soldat were on steam the devs would have to make it happen fast?
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Petterkowski on May 29, 2016, 08:16:04 am
We know that releasing this game on steam will most likely not increase server population... however I do believe that temporarily it may just do that - increase the server population, and that's our fucking shot! I was always excited about this game being great - here is still a ray of hope that it might be a great game one day. Even though people have been negative towards this game its only because they want it to fulfill all its potential. All i hear is that we're not ready, bugs here and there.. for god sake scaremongering is never a good thing to do! There are games on Steam that are doing very well and are in worse state that Soldat is currently at. There are literally dozens of Early Access games and Open Beta games on there that are getting much less care and attention than this game is getting, and these games are doing perfectly fine! Steam will open the game up to millions of potential players, provide instantly advertising and see many more people signing up for the game, especially as the only game of this type its really going up against is an oldie LIERO!?. I don't see any negatives at all. In fact if Soldat does go to Steam I will be one of the people to download through Steam and will be posting unbiased but positive reviews of the game (no need to be negative about the games current drawbacks). I understand that the only thing that can fix population in the long term is addressing the code problems, visuals etc and setting up things in a way that they will breed continuous increase in population, but getting this to steam will give more time to devs to work on it! It will boost the activity just for the short period of time and that's our shot! That's gonna be the time to implement changes and bring Soldat to a new level because there is no way we can get anything more than a temporary increase in population with that philosophy of not doing nothing. But devs brought here HD, why not accounts and all the other suggestions? Yes, I have seen some games getting a lot of neagive reviwes from peole because either it was too buggy or released too early. But after the fixes the positive reviews started flowing. Every time the game gets attention, just for some time, but it's our time! If you fix the things in this period we'll get this game to its potential. If you can instantly increase your population by around 20%, why wouldn't you? Steam can and will do that. Many people only play games from the Steam platform. The idea of going anywhere else and downloading a game to them is simply not an option. If it isn't on Steam, they don't play it. Steam is definitely a good place to start...I mean at this point it definitely can only do some good. LETS DO IT BOIZ!
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: L[0ne]R on May 29, 2016, 01:02:45 pm
The Early Access 'Store' is supposed to be for alpha/beta/... staged games, to get bugs reported, suggestions gathered and build a community of interested people. Soldat, a 14 years old game, where 99% of the bugs are known to the devs, the forums are overloaded with suggestions and simply the fact that it's NOT in alpha/beta/... stage as the matter of the fact that it was released 14 years ago, should be enough to not qualify it for !Early! Access. I'm always happy of any kind of PR that would help Soldat, but not by putting it on places where it does not belong to. If you want to get this game on STEAM, there are a few things which need to be done first and all of them are known (making the whole game more user friendly, accounts/stats/achievements, new menu, anti-cheat, less 'eats' (better netcode), auto-updater, global visual theme).


Soldat has been around for 14 years, but how many of those years has it been on Steam? None. Therefore any potential Steam-related bugs and problems are completely unknown and unreported, which is enough of a reason to warrant an Early Access release first, to ensure the final Steam release goes smooth. It's not an early access to Soldat, but an early access to Soldat-on-Steam, along with any new major features that it never had. (Heck, considering how many problems Soldat has even now, I'd say it never evolved past Beta stage). A short boost in publicity could also boost community involvement (bug reporting, feedback, content) than the small community we have on the forums, but that's just a bonus.

Either way, I don't think semantics of "Early Access" should be the deciding factor in the matter, but whether or not it will help Soldat.

I agree, some more work needs to be done before Soldat is properly released on Steam, but there's a limit to that. Considering how slow the progress is, can you imagine how long it'll take to implement "accounts/stats/achievements, new menu, anti-cheat, less 'eats' (better netcode), auto-updater, global visual theme"? I don't see this getting done in at least a few more years. I don't think an Early Access release would need anything more than a new UI and a built-in tutorial.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: stachuATX7 on May 29, 2016, 08:58:08 pm
Cmoon, why we cant just try?
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: verbeia on May 30, 2016, 04:45:34 am
Why price tag wont work ? Come on. Current players of soldat is playing this game like more than ten years. I believe that every player that i see on SCTFL community will buy it without a doubt.15$ isnt that much big deal + we will have anti-cheat in it so this will be more exciting to buy than current versions. But i dont believe that its ready to go now. Still need some netcode improvements and anti-cheats.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: DutchFlame on May 30, 2016, 10:27:59 am
I was hoping we could achieve an anti-cheat.

how?

Add a donate button on these forums or somewhere else that direct to a soldat only bank account, that will entirely serve its purpose for the anti-cheat(maybe even more depending on the amount).

I for certain would be willing to donate a standard amount each month, and im pretty sure more people are able/willing to.

Is this a possibility?

Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Bistoufly on May 30, 2016, 10:30:59 am
https://www.patreon.com/ (https://www.patreon.com/)

maybe?
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: stachuATX7 on June 02, 2016, 09:49:05 am
Cmon Devs you lazy shits, if you dont fucking want to do something just sell this game to some interested devs.

Even if ALL COMMUNITY want to help you cant do shit.

" no no its not worth " " Noo soldat 10 years too old game no way " " Too much bugs noo noo" " bla blaa no worth for early acces "

It wouldnt be " 15 year old game " if you just could move your ass. we can get fucking 60 based people on irc who only plays gathers farting on chairs and almost ready for doing something usefull for soldat. Make donate buttons and DO SOMETHING What do you want, Money? People to help? Suggestions? Help with something? Im just fucking tired of reading here how is not worth. Everyone is rooting for soldat on IRC and everyone there want fucking help. If there is no for Steam/Forward Step Just tell us. Cause all of us have hope. But almost not clearly stated at all.

So whats going on??
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: machina on June 02, 2016, 10:33:01 am
Calm down, we are going to announce some good news pretty soon.
Oh, that's interesting...
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: stachuATX7 on June 02, 2016, 03:22:58 pm
Calm down, we are going to announce some good news pretty soon.

Ok, im waiting.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: nosejj on October 22, 2016, 01:26:36 am
On the steam subject area, I think the devs should also maintain an official page on Steam such as Link (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/soldat).
Devlogs, news, etc... all there.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: KoGAi on October 23, 2016, 07:50:43 pm
We just happened to read this post by pure chance. Whoever would like to get assistance of various sorts to bring this awesome game up on Steam, feel free to reach out- we're more than willing! :3
In the meantime, good luck!
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: L[0ne]R on October 27, 2016, 11:27:36 am
Just leaving this here before I inevitably lose the link. TotalBiscuit's video on how he picks games to be featured in his channel, which may be useful info when/if there are more active promotion for Soldat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pRDRCorx14
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: darDar on October 27, 2016, 12:52:16 pm
videos like those usually don't generate much traffic or new players because most youtubers know a shit about the games they're playing and are just using them to have content. If there's ever a famous YT channel to make a video about soldat he either has to know the game or merge with people from the community.

some people wouldn't even add a link to the official site and not even that would be much of a help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYE7mFADyao
This video got 800k views but it's actual range towards the game is 0.
Don't make that mistake to get hyped about retarded youtubers and their clicks.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: daaw on October 27, 2016, 01:30:57 pm
Around when "Random Soldat Bullshittery"  was posted.  i saw there was incriease in "max" concurent players if you judge by (soldat.pl/en/lobby) , to 150? or even 200 ? dont rember, from around 90...

...but few days later it seems they all leave game...like nothing ever happened... seems promotions is not Soldat's .."bottleneck" of success.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: duz on October 27, 2016, 05:20:59 pm
It's almost impossible to retain new players. The game is ugly as fuck for this generation.
Also there's no news about what is going on. Ok, there's a new map makers team, but there's no dev logs. We were excited for 10 minutos and nothing more.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Monsteri on October 28, 2016, 01:30:16 am
It's almost impossible to retain new players. The game is ugly as fuck for this generation.
Also there's no news about what is going on. Ok, there's a new map makers team, but there's no dev logs. We were excited for 10 minutos and nothing more.
A major effort is underway, but keep in mind we're doing it for free, so progress cannot be constant. Hopefully I'll be able to make some teasers in November.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Ratman on November 13, 2016, 01:10:43 am
Sounds great! Lets atleast here whats in store for this month.

I for one definitely think the user interface needs major revamp if we are to retain new players. The game just looks too cluttered when first opened.

I've been playing for years and still remember that I did not even bother to play online for such a long time because I did not even see the "join game" tab and didn't know how to load servers as a kid.

There have been lots of ideas and models floating around that are major improvements to what we have now. I hope some thought has been put into this :D
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: squiddy on November 21, 2016, 10:15:07 pm
hey, just wanted to say too that I think it would be awesome if this game were added to Steam (even maybe Greenlight idk). it would bring new players, which would bring feedback, and also people who are willing to contribute! even with bugs and all this game is AWESOME. just needs proper push. btw, this new version is looking fresh as hell  8)
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Ratman on November 26, 2016, 08:18:29 pm
It's almost impossible to retain new players. The game is ugly as fuck for this generation.
Also there's no news about what is going on. Ok, there's a new map makers team, but there's no dev logs. We were excited for 10 minutos and nothing more.
A major effort is underway, but keep in mind we're doing it for free, so progress cannot be constant. Hopefully I'll be able to make some teasers in November.

Any updates you could share?
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Name on December 17, 2016, 04:22:11 pm
Do .. Not .. Put .. This .. Game .. On ... Steam.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Irlandec on January 28, 2017, 08:31:11 pm
The day when network core and lag-based issues will be fixed in Soldat must be the same day it goes on Steam.
Not like I don't appreciate current developer team work and effort they put in the game, but since 1.4.x this problem is well-known and no one seem to care over all these years(or just ignoring this for reasons apparently we don't know).
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Slasher on January 29, 2017, 11:00:15 am
hey, just wanted to say too that I think it would be awesome if this game were added to Steam (even maybe Greenlight idk). it would bring new players, which would bring feedback, and also people who are willing to contribute! even with bugs and all this game is AWESOME. just needs proper push. btw, this new version is looking fresh as hell  8)
Squiddy ora ora ainda jogando esse bendito jogo hahahha
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: whitdemon on February 22, 2017, 08:07:54 am
when is it going on steam?

theres a bazilion steam users with shitty computers that want to play this

(make it free or cheap)

???

win
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: machina on February 22, 2017, 09:21:47 am
theres a bazilion steam users with shitty computers that want to play this
Define "shitty".

Here's some actual statistics data instead:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Besides, new art direction of Soldat kinda announced that the devs don't target only crappy dying PCs. And that's of course a good choice.

make it free or cheap
I'd say: free or eventually start it free and then switch to cheap paid version.

The best solution IMO would be to keep it the way it is i.e. bonus features for money but paid once - not a single skin for a single donation.
Title: Re: Make Soldat on Steam!
Post by: Akinaro on February 23, 2017, 05:23:44 am
And how would you control and administer those paid versions and how you would implement the to actuall game?
Because most of problems that soldat have for past few years, are somehow related to its current distribution and how its managed.
Game rights belong to MM, because he is author of Soldat, but for past YEARS, he didnt support it in any way, all works where made by users who decided to help developing it.
And even if they knew its free, and they agree to it in the first place, those few registrations that where made went to MM not to game it self in any way, for example for advertising, that its really needed right now.

If there would be clear situation of that, there would be proper dev team, where few people would be responsible for advertising game and social media of game and he would use those few bucks for advertising game. And also site and forum would have few ads, there would be paid addons especially for selected users of game and forum, game would have proper donation system that could be used for eg, getting proper programmers with experience that would work on game all the time.

Its a matter of clearing that situation, creating proper agreement for people who work on game(name, address, etc) and after that you could "trust" those persons to use those money to advertise game and help developing it.

Everyone do this, especially if you want to make money from it on steam, so why Soldat would not start being proper game, instead of being in state of some weekend project made for fun by bunch random people, like for past hundreds of years.