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Title: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Snip on January 01, 2015, 05:28:30 pm
Just been wondering how many of u people would offer some money to get some anti cheat back in soldat
maybe its possible then to get it back?

Like maybe we can get battleye back or something if we found out the costs of it a month
Some people even willing to pay every month for a good anti cheat
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Izzy Rose (PL) on January 01, 2015, 06:14:36 pm
No.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: CheeSeMan. on January 01, 2015, 06:24:38 pm
Though I would glady pay some sum for a working anti-cheat, I think sadly we have to realize that the demand/supply is just not there to intice a potential developer to take up the cause. Bottom line is not enough people play Soldat so the person developing the anti-cheat would not make enough money.

I think we have to pin our hopes on someone coming forward like Mr who has the talent and wants to do it just because they love the game.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: nosejj on January 02, 2015, 04:13:22 am
Even when the community was larger, most weren't willing to pay regularly for an anti-cheat...
I guess we'll just have to be patient, sadly.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: DutchFlame on January 02, 2015, 11:41:40 am

I guess we'll just have to be patient, sadly.

it's said to be out when 1.7 gets out
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Ricrylonten on January 02, 2015, 02:08:00 pm
No.

You are cancer.

I eagerly await anticheat and would be glad to donate and support its development.

BattlEye, however, is definitely out of our league. I don't think we can compete with ArmA bucks.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Izzy Rose (PL) on January 02, 2015, 04:10:00 pm
No.
You are cancer.
Thank you.

Personally, talk what you want, but I can't see need to use advanced anti-cheat systems in our game. In last year I met maybe 3, 4 cheaters who used real teleport/speed/invulnerability hacks and they were kicked in really short time by other players on server. We get along with fighting off cheaters and paying for anti-cheat systems became pointless in my opinion.
Moreover, BattleEye wasn't well implemented into Soldat in my feeling and it made me unable to regular play. Caused lot of problems, when my ping was just a little higher than average.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: jrgp on January 02, 2015, 05:00:54 pm
Maybe MM could afford PunkBuster or equivalent. MM's latest games make money; Soldat probably does not make enough money or have the attention/demand necessary to warrant buying quality anticheat.

I think BattlEye might be defunct for other games too.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Snip on January 02, 2015, 05:07:24 pm
No.
You are cancer.
Thank you.

Personally, talk what you want, but I can't see need to use advanced anti-cheat systems in our game. In last year I met maybe 3, 4 cheaters who used real teleport/speed/invulnerability hacks and they were kicked in really short time by other players on server. We get along with fighting off cheaters and paying for anti-cheat systems became pointless in my opinion.
Moreover, BattleEye wasn't well implemented into Soldat in my feeling and it made me unable to regular play. Caused lot of problems, when my ping was just a little higher than average.

lol 3/4 cheaters in a year?
i have seen in 2015 already 5+ playing gathers open ur eyes
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: JotEmI on January 02, 2015, 09:26:39 pm
No.
You are cancer.
Thank you.

Personally, talk what you want, but I can't see need to use advanced anti-cheat systems in our game. In last year I met maybe 3, 4 cheaters who used real teleport/speed/invulnerability hacks and they were kicked in really short time by other players on server. We get along with fighting off cheaters and paying for anti-cheat systems became pointless in my opinion.
Moreover, BattleEye wasn't well implemented into Soldat in my feeling and it made me unable to regular play. Caused lot of problems, when my ping was just a little higher than average.

lol 3/4 cheaters in a year?
i have seen in 2015 already 5+ playing gathers open ur eyes
True, I've been seeing more and more cheaters recently. They usually don't use such obvious cheats as teleport/invulnearability but rather things like no bink/no startup time/multiple bullets so it's harder to spot them. For most of the time you won't even notice it unless you spectate and watch closely.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: CheeSeMan. on January 03, 2015, 09:26:58 pm
aimbots aimbots everywhere the paranoia has become reality...
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: stachuATX7 on January 09, 2015, 03:52:14 am
Im 100% for it to pay some money for anticheat cause i still love this game. I can donate something about 100euro on start the next thing is that we or even me could donating soldat 10Euro per month for WORKING anticheat correctly.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: nosejj on January 09, 2015, 05:18:45 am
Im 100% for it to pay some money for anticheat cause i still love this game. I can donate something about 100euro on start the next thing is that we or even me could donating soldat 10Euro per month for WORKING anticheat correctly.
Give it straight to Mr, maybe he'll hurry. :-D
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: JotEmI on February 26, 2015, 11:17:41 am
aimbots aimbots everywhere the paranoia has become reality...
Today on one of the Zabijaka's server there was a guy spawning stat guns and other weapons everywhere. And instead of kicking him out ppl actually wanted to know where to get that hax...
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Fryer on February 27, 2015, 04:47:57 am
aimbots aimbots everywhere the paranoia has become reality...
Today on one of the Zabijaka's server there was a guy spawning stat guns and other weapons everywhere. And instead of kicking him out ppl actually wanted to know where to get that hax...
That sounds more like an admin abusing server scripts than a hack. I've seen Bonecrusher (the server owner) using some pretty weird scripts when he was playing there, like spawning bonuses, so I guess that's just another shitty admin abuse script he added.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Bonecrusher on February 27, 2015, 08:10:33 pm
Today on one of the Zabijaka's server there was a guy spawning stat guns and other weapons everywhere. And instead of kicking him out ppl actually wanted to know where to get that hax...
it also could have been me playing around
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: JotEmI on February 28, 2015, 10:45:05 am
Today on one of the Zabijaka's server there was a guy spawning stat guns and other weapons everywhere. And instead of kicking him out ppl actually wanted to know where to get that hax...
it also could have been me playing around
It wasn't you but maybe your right, maybe it was another admin making fun of us.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Bonecrusher on February 28, 2015, 05:58:17 pm
I checked the logs - it was an admin.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Ratman on March 05, 2015, 02:45:37 pm
I think the real problem is like JotEmI pointed out: the not so obvious hacks (no bink or delay). If someone could make a guide on how to spot these these it would make it a lot easier for the admins at the very least. Especially since a lot of those could be explained through lag and no one wants to ban someone who just looks "suspicious" and has no concrete proof.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: Name on March 10, 2015, 01:53:46 am
A problem is also that those things happen without the actual player applying any cheats. Someone might still be responsible, but not always the player.
Title: Re: paying for anti cheat?
Post by: soldat-game on May 24, 2016, 01:52:27 am
NoStartUpTime - If he dont have lags use PlaySound or KeyPress to check how he have NoStartUpTime.
NoFireInterval this is blocked be server but if he set to 50% this work but hard to detect such changes due to the ping.
BetterDamage he can modificy damage most polular method is x5 dmg use WriteConslole to se all hits players if he hit and is 1 measage dmg he not use if is x5 or x2 he have hack.
Ammo is netcode is repair this see on specator... If he saw is big range he have modificy speed.
NoBink this is random up or down, if despite receiving damage it is able to hit a longer distance, you can sometimes be lucky but if he says that he has learned to cope with it.. he is stupid hacker..
NoRecoil - this be see even if you move specially mouse.
NoBulletSpread - this be see but is bug is u shoot and press esc menu u get NoRecoil  and NoBulletSpread.
NoMovementAcc - The most popular hack for users barrett, generally if a player says he does not know what is  it and very good using barret he is hack.  If a player falls freely, you can look up certain relationships and learn how to hit, but if player fly left or right and dont prone and hit from large distances often is hacker.
Recorded a video but you would banned me.