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Soldat Talk => General Discussions => Topic started by: Valorman on June 13, 2006, 12:55:57 pm
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What is the best counter weapon against m79? I mean i hat getting blown up by those things. I never ever use one. ive been testing out weapons to counter but no luck. I hate it when im thrown into a server with tons of m79 users. so if anybody has any suggestions to counter it, please put it in this thread. Thanks!
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Keep a distance.
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Yeah, just keep a distance, and you can use ruger or any auto, really..just try and keep out of their range :/
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throw a nad on the ground then back out or into them.
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Yup, don't come close and use some medium/long range guns. People always chace after the enemy but sometimes its better to move back and shoot em from a distance.
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Thanks for your suggestions guys, they helped me alot :)
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As an AUG user myself I can tell you that the AUG is efficient against both m79 and Barrett users. Just unload on them (mainly against barrett users) and they are 90% of the time too binked to hit you.
But against m79'ers as the others said, just keep some distance and you should be fine.
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what I do is just keep a distance and blast them with the m95 while throwing nades in front of them.
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yes but many maps force you to be in close contact with an m79, (kampf bottom for example)
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Keep some distance and stick to the ground so that you can backflip and take command of the situation should you see an M79 shot fired. Being in air limits mobility, so if you're fired upon, your best recourse is to prone jet. Note that the M79er only has one shot, so if you see an approaching enemy, and he is not firing on you, it's safe to assume he has a M79 and is just waiting to get in better range for a good shot. This is my sign to treat the enemy as a bomb and keep my distance. If you're using an auto, you'll have little to concern yourself with as the bink will just ruin his chances of taking you out. Even then, always be wary of the secondary weapon and possibility of a second M79 shot if one was picked up.
yes but many maps force you to be in close contact with an m79, (kampf bottom for example)
The only part that favors the M79 above all other weapons is the narrow tunnel at the top part of the map near Bravo's base. When you say "kampf bottom," can I take it you mean the tunnel low in Kampf 2? That's nothing special and no different than the one in Equinox and many other maps. Low ceiling tunnels really aren't good for the M79; the only reason the top one in Kampf works is because the angles force an enemy into being an easy shot, having to rely on grenades or a teammate to finish the M79 waiting.
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Since the m79 doesnt shoot straight i back away and use jets in the sky and shoot them with a ak-74.
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I use the AUG which has a decent range and is fairly easy to keep distance with.
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blast them with the m95
Nuff said.
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I usually fly straight up with a high velocity so their grenade doesn't hit me, and then I swoop in and kill them. :P Seriously, it works.
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Keep some distance and stick to the ground so that you can backflip and take command of the situation should you see an M79 shot fired. Being in air limits mobility, so if you're fired upon, your best recourse is to prone jet. Note that the M79er only has one shot, so if you see an approaching enemy, and he is not firing on you, it's safe to assume he has a M79 and is just waiting to get in better range for a good shot. This is my sign to treat the enemy as a bomb and keep my distance. If you're using an auto, you'll have little to concern yourself with as the bink will just ruin his chances of taking you out. Even then, always be wary of the secondary weapon and possibility of a second M79 shot if one was picked up.
yes but many maps force you to be in close contact with an m79, (kampf bottom for example)
The only part that favors the M79 above all other weapons is the narrow tunnel at the top part of the map near Bravo's base. When you say "kampf bottom," can I take it you mean the tunnel low in Kampf 2? That's nothing special and no different than the one in Equinox and many other maps. Low ceiling tunnels really aren't good for the M79; the only reason the top one in Kampf works is because the angles force an enemy into being an easy shot, having to rely on grenades or a teammate to finish the M79 waiting.
no i mean both the flag areas and the top part of bravo and also they can just camp the middle without much retort.
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it helps if you practice using m79s against bots to get an idea of how they work. than for in real games, if you can, get way above them and shoot downward. if you cant get that high up, either stay on the ground or in a parrallel line. that way it takes longer for the grenade to hit you or you can do a backflip. also going prone in air sometimes helps. but most of all, learn how far it can shoot and stay just an inch away from that distance.
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A lot of new players in their masses use m79. Just two autos on your team however (as i've practiced) can achieve overall superiority over the game.
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All hail Chakra and Mancer, the kings of the Ruger users.
EDIT: lmao at ur sig chakra
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no i mean both the flag areas and the top part of bravo and also they can just camp the middle without much retort.
Just toss grenades at any flag campers on Kampf. The Bravo area is open enough where that shouldn't be a problem, and any weapon can shoot into it at an angle to attack the person in their without having to get in range. The Alpha flag area is a bit harder to attack, and it's a balance problem with the map. Flag camping isn't strictly for an M79's advantage -- any one-hit will help, and I find the chainsaw works best.
As far as the top section, grenades from above will scare anyone out of that small "Z" tunnel, which is easy enough coming from Alpha's direction. If it's an Alpha camping there, just know that you'll get a quick respawn since it's close to Bravo's base, and just accept that if you go up with a M79 you can take him out as well to clear the space. Otherwise, you can try to fake out the person into shooting (move in and roll out, backflip, etc.), or worst comes to worse, take the long way around and grenade him from behind.
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i guess you could say i am an m79 vet, its always been one of my favorites and most frequently used weapons. all i can tell you when it comes to beating it is to move in un-predictable patterns or keep your distance or both.
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I have just learned to dodge them and then hit them with my M79. But if i'm not using a M79, i just Ruger them. Keeping a fair distance, watching the M79 grenade, and dodging the grenade, are the best strategies i have found.
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I've found it possible to manouver my way around an M79 shot.
+ ive only been barretting this version ;D
(i swear ill deagle again :-X)
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I just /kill before they hit me.... <3 Taunt binding
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I just /kill before they hit me.... <3 Taunt binding
Be careful with that, new dedicated server can punsih you :P
Of course you know this though, you helped make it.
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I just /kill before they hit me.... <3 Taunt binding
Hah, I've actualy met someone who's done it to me but, if you see it hits you but it doesn't kills you? (LAG) so u'r still dead, that's too bad :P
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The only actual counter for the M79 is a LAW to the face. They'll try to come close enough to you, but by the time they fire, you've already blown them away. That is, in closed areas. In wide, open spaces, use a STEYR like everyone else said. If you can, get above them. If they miss, they might come down on themselves. And, if you can get above them, don't ever go prone. That makes you a wide target. ANNND. If you manage to get behind them, go Halo style and fist them. If he turns around and fires, you'll both die.
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really the only terrain an m79 has an advantage is close-quarters, tunnels, and places with not much flying room(i.e. low cieling)
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yea, i mean that's only like half of the game, so they're not a big deal ;) just don't whine that m79s suck and do the following to beat them easily.
1. don't ever rush aggressively, they'll kill you before you respond.
2. don't, or at least try not to walk on land most of the time, jet in the air.
3. don't ever ever go into tunnels or small corners.
4. don't ever use a close to medium range weapon. ever.
5. don't play maps with mostly close range fighting areas, after all it's only like 1/3 of the maps :)
yep that sounds fair to meĀ ;D, the m79 is a very very balanced "weapon" right now.
EDIT: even though i hate it, but yes it is very hard to use m79 at long range, even if they do you can easily dodge the shots, so just stay away.
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since m79 is a close range gun, using long range guns if preferred. ruger if u can kill with it quickly, spraying with autos, barret. and ofc making sure you have places to cover yourself
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I just /kill before they hit me.... <3 Taunt binding
I absolutely hate when people do that to me. I think killing yourself to avoid a M79 bullet is really cheap.
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really the only terrain an m79 has an advantage is close-quarters, tunnels, and places with not much flying room(i.e. low cieling)
I'd disagree about the M79 having an advantage in tunnels. Of course it depends on the shape and position in the tunnels, but the low ceiling prevents lobbing shots to get any distance. You could ricochet the shot to travel further, but that's going to be difficult while under fire and getting binked, especially under auto fire given all the ricocheting bullets. Narrow tunnels are especially bad unless the design of it forces an approaching enemy to stand in the way of the shot with no chance to react (ie., the short "Z" tunnel in Kampf).
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I consider myself good with the M79. I dont know why people hate people like me, were as bad as the barreters. With minimal practice people can use the M79, but it takes more practice to use it right.
Tunnels will most likely favor us. Unless it is flat, the hills and low cieling provide cover while we curve our shot to you. My advice is to stick to the cieling. Unless we are close to you, we cant hit you because of the curve.
In the air it can be easy to predict where your going. Again, because of the curve, I suggest jetting away from us, while hitting us with anything you have. This way we have to aim really high just to accomadate the curve, plus we have to deal with the bink.
Overall try to stay higher than us and look ahead. I get most of my kills from people rushing through a tunnel or through the open.
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Stick to the ground at first and walk backwards, keep some distance and when they shoot you got time ju jump up and jet and get closer to finish the job.. And like jettlarue sayd, practice with it, see how it works, the lob distances etc..
They also tend to try and get close first, its easier to kill thatway for them...
Once you know how to kill them it get really easy, but a M79 veteran will be harder to kill, and if you get some skills you would also do better
Ow, and don't get under a M79, 90% you get killed then...
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My opinion for the weapon that counters m79 is the Ruger, but you do not hop run with a Ruger, because you get into close range battles you'd rather avoid, also makes it easier to concentrate and pick off people running around, dodging m79s is even more a piece of cake when you keep a distance.
EDIT: Also mentioned above, keep above them, gravity is a wonder for m79s, under them and they almost teleport to you they drop so quick, above them it gets pulled down after travelling a few feet.