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Soldat Talk => General Discussions => Topic started by: FG Owner on October 22, 2006, 09:47:45 am
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Hi,
My name is Shawn and i own Franchise Gaming, and since this game is very big we will be holding a Cash prize tourney for this game, Now this is how it will work..
You will need to Sign up for our site, so Soldat has nothing to do with it, because some hosting agencies don't allow this but we have the legal right. So go here and do so. Â
www.franchisegaming.com (http://www.franchisegaming.com)    and remember sign up for the site, then click the Ladder link up top and sign in for that, now we have the Soldat ladder up on the LEFT under the PC section if you won't click that and sign up, it is a clan ladder and or single ladder, so just sign your clan up there.
What we need for you to do is tell us what Game Mode you would like the Tourney to be held in, and if you would like to Join the Tourney there will be an Entree Fee, of $5, Ok now the more people we can get in this Tourney the more money we can hand out to the WINNERS 8). Ok what we can take is PayPal, Money Orders, Checks, and thats it, Now we will have a Link on our Site that says Soldat Entrance Fee if you are paying by PAYPAL click the PayPal Buy now link..
I will have a Poll up the Mode that gets the most votes will be what the tourny is for.. Now this is not a Clan Tourney We will hold one of those Later. But The top 3 winners of this Tourney will be given a Cash Prize. Now if this Tourney is a big Sucess we will do Clan Cash Tourney's for up to 10 members in a Clan and we will pay the top 2 Clans thats 20 peole which will recieve Cash Money
But If you are joining please Remeber, If your Using PayPal, go to our Home Page and on the Left You will see the Soldat Entrace Fee Block, which will have a PayPal Buy Now button, buy your ticket there, And Please Email MajinHendricks@aol.com with your Account name you bought it under for security reasons so i know you bought a ticket, and i will automatically put your name in the Tourny Bracket, also give me your Username you are going to Use to play the the Game with..
Now if you are paying with Money Orders, or a Check Please Send it to this Address and Put Your UserName in with the check or money order so i can put you up as soon as i recieve it, and if you live Outiside the US please give it time to get here..
Wirte the Check to Shawn Hendricks (this is the Owner of Franchise Gaming)
And send it to this Address
Shawn Hendricks
423 Fairmont Ave
Spartanburg, SC
29301
If you have ANY Questions please feel free to Contact me at
864-949-8351
AND THIS TOURNY WILL BEGIN AS VERY SOON SO IF YOU NEED SOME TIME TO get the moeny we can wait, so we will post the Tourney date here Later..
And the SOLDAT owner has given us permission to post this and hold this..
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5 bucks to enter it....you gotta be joking!
I'ma gonna check this out, but asking for money ain't a good way to get members ;)
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Well we have to it's a Law we can't give away cash are host won't allow that, no host will, so we ask for a Bare minimum, and it'll help boost up the Top Cash Prizes but $5 is very low other sites would ask anywere from $20-$75 so we are not like them, we won't to give more to you not take more away
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I can make more money per hour doing work. And I get more respect that way too.
+ I'm not big into people who just go around trying to find ways of making money. This is obvious in that you did not create your own script for your website. You don't seem to want to contribute to the community. Count me out.
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something smells bad in here...
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This sounds great! Unfortunately I do not have the $5 on me, but my family in Nigeria does. I will have them contact you so we can arrange a funds transfer for the entry fee. I can't wait! :)
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Our site is Legal By South Carolina State Law of the Chamber of Commerce for Internet Affairs , if you have any concerns please given them a call and or our Web Hosting Services, But actually we have bought the Program we are using for our Home Page Site, and our ladders cost close to $1000 to customize and for purchase and we run on a dedicated server so for now we run close to $500 a month jsut to keep it up, we are not wanting money for ourselfs this tourney is for you and the Soldat Site, we only get a piece of it, but a mojority of it is going to the Winners and to the Soldat Owner, so what he does with it is up to him..
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Our site is Legal By South Carolina State Law of the Chamber of Commerce for Internet Affairs , if you have any concerns please given them a call and or our Web Hosting Services, But actually we have bought the Program we are using for our Home Page Site, and our ladders cost close to $1000 to customize and for purchase and we run on a dedicated server so for now we run close to $500 a month jsut to keep it up, we are not wanting money for ourselfs this tourney is for you and the Soldat Site, we only get a piece of it, but a mojority of it is going to the Winners and to the Soldat Owner, so what he does with it is up to him..
I will be spending it on moist chocolate brownies. The Soldat Owner does love him some brownies. :)
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Good one , whoever you are...
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You mean to tell me that your asking us for money to play soldat in your little tournament? I am the least bit interested. You're going to have to come up with something more impressive if you want my $5.
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c'mon guys, $5 is nothing. If my computer wasn't all f**ked up right now I'd join.
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Hey the Tourney is for you guys which we have discussed with your owner so if you guys don't wanna join thats fine i'm not making you, we just thought it would give this game a little bit of a spice, so $5 is really nothing, a lot of gaming sites like i've said would ask for a lot more i know i used to work for one and i didn't like the way it was ran, so here we are now, but this Touryney is a very big step, and so if we get a lot of memebers then like is aid the more players we can get the more we can give to Soldat, and the more he can take this site, so jsut think of it like, that, it cost him alot to keep this site open so, we are trying to help him
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+ I'm not big into people who just go around trying to find ways of making money.
Off Topic: .... yeah I mean come on who needs entrepreneurs anyways.
On Topic: Honestly, five dollars is barely any money for a majority of the western world. If I was scammed out of five dollars, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
With that being said I'd like to see this thing succeed even if Mancer and Sneakyg + some other random n00b are the only ones getting the money. If we're lucky neither of them have paypal accounts ;)
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FG Owner, tell me the name of the Soldat "owner". I'm starting to get interested.
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His names is michal marcinkowski, i'm pretty sure, but you guys should just think of it as a way of helping out Soldat really cause a lot of the money will be going to the site, not to us..
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other sites would ask anywere from $20-$75 so we are not like them
Like what sites?
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like gamebattles and or extreme platforms
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Spartanburg, eh? That's close to where I live. ;)
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Ok shawn, Most people that play a free game are too cheap to enter a tornament, besides, the least you could do was to be in the community for a while. I doubt you play soldat.
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Actually i and a couple of y staff do play Soldat, and we will be sticking around here for a lot more tourney's for Soldat if that is what the members want, remember the more we can do for michal then more he can give to Soldat
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I'd probably do this if I wasnt so lazy to reactivate my paypal account and to get my checking card.
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well Paypal would be the easiest way but you can send money orders if you don't have any other way, doesn't really matter, But don't forget to sign up for our Site guys, and the ladder site, and lets get this Tourney GOING..!!
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Shouldn't this be authorized by MM or something? It is his game that he made...
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He did autherize it otherwise this Topic would be closed by now he knows all about this and has approved of this.. So everything is fine, and he and i both hope we can get this going
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Soldat should be a fun game,thats free. We don t need to make it a game where yuo win cash blah...blah..blah
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Actually i and a couple of y staff do play Soldat, and we will be sticking around here for a lot more tourney's for Soldat if that is what the members want, remember the more we can do for michal then more he can give to Soldat
How is you scabbing $5 outta any man in this forum stupid enough to pay you is contributing to Soldat in what way?...I reckon MM should ask for a little fee outta this...seems like a reasonable idea....
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OK i'll say it again, none of this is going to us, we are doing this to give to michal, and his site, we only get a piece of it for holding this tourney i've said that before if you uys would read, but lik 75% of the money is going to Soldat, and the 3 winners we only are getting a piece of this, that is what i have told Miichal and he knows that, the $5 is for an entrace fee to give more to the Site, in no way is this helping out our site, we jsut need Cash Tourney's to allow our site more attention we are in competetion with 3 other gaming site, they hold entree fees for $75 so if you want them to host here please tell me i will give them this site, i'm only thinking about you the members of this game..
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Scam much?
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This is not a scam, if this was we could go to Jail for this is a legit Tourney, and nothing about it is fake, All we are trying to do is help this Site out, so we need your help, if you are going to play please sign up for our Site and Ladders, our site is a free based ladder site, we can't make peolpe pay for them nor would we anyways, so we have been Hosting Cash Tourneys for some of the Biggest Online PS2 games uot yet BattleField 2 we held a 50,000 dollar tourney that Sony Helped us Carry out I promise this is the real deal nothiing about it is fake, and i can have you Owner post here to tell you that..
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This is shady as hell, but I'm not going to close this thread based on that alone. Enter at your own risk, everyone.
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This is shady as hell, but I'm not going to close this thread based on that alone. Enter at your own risk, everyone.
Ditto. If Sony helped you and you're so big, why have I never head of "Franchise Gaming"?
EDIT: You don't even sound mature enough (in my opinion) to run a gaming site. Not to mention the typing errors and incorrect capitalization. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this has been authorized by Michal, why didn't he make a topic in the Official News section to announce it? Afterall, it's a relatively big event to enter a tournament that has a cash reward, you'd think he would have informed us about it to assure us it's not a scam ahead of time. I still don't trust you, and won't trust you until I hear from Michal himself that it's legitimate.
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He will As soon as he gets back and does what he does, and also our site has been open for around a month, and mature enough i'm 21 years old so just cause i spell wrong doesn't matter, i'm just in a hurry, and i'm doing other things right now, But Sony has helped us do a couple of Tourneys and the reason you may not have heard of has, is because we're now the only site to host a PC Gaming Ladder System we deal with mainly bigger games like Xbox, 360, and PS2 and the PS3 so we are just now advancing to Th PC, because their are so many peolpe who are like you guys is why sites don't host PC gaming ladders but i believe i can change that here i have nothing to lose i'm just trying to help Michal out with his site, So he will do what he has to do to help get this Tourney going. And make his site better by what we can offer him
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That dosen't mean a thing to me. Until I hear from Michal that this is legitimate, I won't trust you. If Michal says it's ok, then I will openly apologize for being so critical.
In the meantime, can't take any chances, you understand.
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And i can understand it i have Emailed him and asked him to tell you guys what is going on, so and i will wait for him to say so, untill then you can say anytihng i will accept it trust me this isn't the first time i hear critisms we go thru this in every game we host for.. So it's ok but once he emails me back with w/e he says goes, and jsut think about it guys we need lots of players, so think about it untill Michal says somthing
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This is a scam and anyone that thinks otherwise is an idiot.
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This is a scam and anyone that thinks otherwise is an idiot.
Like I said above, unless I hear from Michal himself, I refuse to believe this, and I don't mean proof that it's legitimate as in something copied and pasted, I want a forum post from Michal and nothing less.
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And as i am getting him to post somthing about it now, he will do it when he reads my Email, So i will wait untill Michal says somthing i have no problem wainting and when he gives the go ahead i hope you guys will still join up
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Since you didn't check with Michal or the forum admin before posting its obviously a scam.
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Actually Michal was the First person we contacted about this and he will post this in the morning or tommorow somtime, and he will let you guys know whats going on,
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What's he so busy with that he can't post "Yes guys, this is a legitimate tournament.".
I know he's a busy man and has a social life, but that would take what, a whole 2 minutes?.
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IDK good question he will post when he gets time to, he has not given me a reply back from our convo yet so just have some patience.
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What's he so busy with that he can't post "Yes guys, this is a legitimate tournament.".
I know he's a busy man and has a social life, but that would take what, a whole 2 minutes?.
Give the new guy a break, MM really does reply to emails slower than anyone I know.
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What's he so busy with that he can't post "Yes guys, this is a legitimate tournament.".
I know he's a busy man and has a social life, but that would take what, a whole 2 minutes?.
Give the new guy a break, MM really does reply to emails slower than anyone I know.
He said he talked to him before he posted this, not he asked him in an email to say it was legit. If he talked to him before he started this thread, you'd think Michal would have informed us that it wasn't a scam.
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Yes and i had to re-email him telling him that his memebers were worried about this, could you please post somthing to ensure them and he has not replied back to me yet, but he said he would, so i guess he will
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FG Owner has contacted me on AIM and told me he has contacted Michal about this.
Until Michal posts here or something else trustworthy is said about the validity of this, spam and flaming will not be tolerated at all. Anyone posting spam or flames here will be banned from the forums for two days
There is a good chance that someone here is trying to organize a legitimate tourney with real prizes. I am not making a personal statement about the validity of this, but I am urging you all not to jump to conclusions.
Wait for an official statement from someone who can vouch for it, please don't destroy our forums. We've come a long way with cleaning up the forums over the past few months, I'm pretty sure that we all would really like to keep it clean.
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Just wanted to point this one out (http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=6700.msg77575#msg77575).
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yes that was before i spoke to him about this tourney, once he reply's everything will be fine, so just hang on
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IF its Realistic mode I could join ;)
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Spartanburg, eh? That's close to where I live. ;)
Ditto :P
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Sorry for posting this late. I can't say anything about if this tourney is valid. All I can say is that FG Owner e-mailed me before this post and we discussed it. Everything he talks about I know, so I say give the tourney a chance, it might be fun.
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Thank you Michal and i can ensure you all that this is a valdate TOURNEY, we will be starting in less than 3 weeks that will give a chance for all the checks and money orders to reach us, and once i have recieved all Fees we will anounce the Jack Pot for the top 3 winners and we will start this a few days after, we must get a minumum of 200 players so that we can offer that most to Soldat and the winners, But all the INFO about theTourney is in my first POST on page one, pleae read it all and rememeber if your paying with PayPal please email me At
MajinHendricks@aol.com
and tell me the Email you are paying with thru PayPal and what your User name is on the Soldat Account you will be using in the Tourney, So i can add you to the BRACKETS and Once you send your Checks and Money Orders, please send me a email to
MajinHendricks@aol.com
and give me the name which it is coming from, and inside yuor involope please put your user name which you will be using on your Soldat account So i can add you to the BRACKETS and also put it in the Email along wth your name from which you are sending it from so i can ensure that this is you.. AND I HOPE THIS WILL BE FUN FOR YOU ALL
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and since this game is very big
thats what makes me suspicious......i mean im not saying its small, but there are soo many more games with massive communities
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we must get a minumum of 200 players
i dunno, this just doesnt smell right
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and since this game is very big
thats what makes me suspicious......i mean im not saying its small, but there are soo many more games with massive communities
it is big enough to have a tourney and small enough that managing such a tourney wouldn't get out of hand. I wouldn't call it wrong to call it big
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I get what you're saying FLAB, im just saying its a bit suspicous since soldat doesnt have a fraction of the publicity of something like CS:Source
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Yes we could go to another Gaming Site, but this Game has been noticed and was thought big and that is why we haven choosen this Game to host on because we know Michal has put a lot of work and money into this and we know that he would enjoy getting some money back for all of his hard work and thats excatly what we do find certain Gaming Sites that are hard at work, and giving so much to the gamers and we give somthing to them.. And this is a chance for you to help your Owner
Date Posted: October 25, 2006, 04:30:42 PM
And we will do a Tourney For CSS but thats not right now thats somthing we have to plan for later, we can only do so many games at one time and thats a PC Disc Gaming, This is a MMORPG inbuilt FSO engines 2 different things that is a company made game this game was made by 1 person, add a 200 person Tourney would give the minumal to Michal as we can, but if we can't get tat many then we will have to work with what we get.
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I would actually like to know how many people has entered it, actually put in their 5 dollars, cause i am not gonna join a tournament with about 3 people in it. ???
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I still think MM should get a little piece of the money you make. Do the math....200 people at 5 bucks a pop! If I'm right...thats 1000 bucks. Michals hard work (as you keep mentioning) should be payed off...so cut him a piece... it wouldn't hurt!
Anyone agree?
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I would enter this, but I don't have paypal and I'm 14 to meh to lazy.....
Guys, it's for fun and oit's only 5 bucks. I'm playing at a Halo tournement at my school for 5 bucks, no big deal, it's just for fun.....plus I wanna own someone.
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You will not get 200 players. I doubt you will even get 20 players.
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Again Michal is getting a lot of the money we make or around that, we are not keeping any of the money to our selfs we only get a litle bit if we get 200 members thats 1000 dollars yes ok 1st place would get 150, second place 100 and 3rd plae 75. ok that leaves like 625 which if we cut that in half thats 337 for soldat and to us, so We are not trying to get money out of this we are just trying to get somthing out of it so we can help michal and maybe do somthing later like a CLAN Tourney, but if we can't get 200 people then we will work with what we have..
And you don't have t use PayPal we accept Money Orders if you click on the PayPal Link i can accept Credit Cards, we accept Checks if you wish to pay with Money then we ask that you must put it in a magazine of some sort or something thick so a Mail Service Providercan't read thru it and see the money then it will be stolen we want to get this going so we can help out here a little, So if you can help us help Michal please
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Again Michal is getting a lot of the money we make or around that, we are not keeping any of the money to our selfs we only get a litle bit if we get 200 members thats 1000 dollars yes ok 1st place would get 150, second place 100 and 3rd plae 75. ok that leaves like 625 which if we cut that in half thats 337 for soldat and to us, so We are not trying to get money out of this we are just trying to get somthing out of it so we can help michal and maybe do somthing later like a CLAN Tourney, but if we can't get 200 people then we will work with what we have..
So 1/3 goes to the players who are paying to enter and win the tournament, 1/3 goes to the "Soldat Owner" who already earns money from registrations, and a 1/3 goes to you for establishing a PayPal account. This is not the way to run tournaments or distribute funds, at least to attract people into entering or instill confidence in this scheme. You haven't done any damage yet to warrant labeling you a scammer, but at the same time you haven't done anything to "prove" yourself to the people who play Soldat and frequent this site. Still, if you only have good intentions and just run and word things poorly, then by all means good luck.
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How many players do you have so far? I think we have the right to know.
I don't think the distribution of the money is fair at all. No offense but you don't deserve $300+ for HOLDING A TOURNAMENT. I'm sorry but you just don't. Secondly, for a tournament with 200 players (as if you are ever going to get that many), $150 is awfully small prize. I'd say $250, $150 and $100 would be reasonable. That makes it $500. If you get less players, use some formula to find a good and reasonable prize. I think you can keep $50-$100 if you really find it necessary but it'd be the best if you don't keep any of the money since you aren't doing this for money. The rest should go to MM.
And seriously, I'm having VERY big doubts about this. It might not be a scam but when a site I have never heard of is making a tournament with a fee, I get suspicious. Especially when the approach to the whole tournament is not very convincing. These things need to be planned beforehand. You have to post the rules beforehand. You have to cover all the details beforehand. You can't do that after the players have paid to get in, that's just plain wrong. "Hey, let's hold a half-assed tournament and make some easy money guys!" is the kind of vibe I'm getting about this right now. I'm not saying the tournament will be half-assed, that's just the impression I got.
And if we are being realistic, I'd say you are going to get 20 players tops. Probably not even that. Most of the people here do not use paypal or any other means to transfer money. And it's not like those who have a paypal account will sign in just like that.
And stop capitalizing random words.
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Ok we said we get 1/3 because it is my staff who have to come in each game, and stay to ref for the whole game know that if we had 200 people then each server host 32 players thats around 16 games we would have to hold, ok that would take time that my staff have to be on other games and come to this game this is actually planned out if you read my first post i said We are trying to get this going and if we get enough people we would further post the rules and how this would work, it would make no since to post all of that and not hold the Tourney, and i have ask Michal if he would like to be put under contract under this Tourney to ensure him of his Money that he will be geting and to ensure that This is not a Scam, And the reason you may not have heard of us is because your not looking. You to find any Gaming site you will need to look there are only 3 in the entire net, Franchisegaming, GameBattles, and Xtreme Platforms and i can promise those are it, those are are the only 3 gaming ladder sites, And Like i have said, this is just an estmate we only ask for a piece of the money because we have to spend time running this, but if you gyus are fully confident that this is a scam then we will not hold it, but we will come back later and try again, but this is not our lose we are trying to help Michal gain some money back and i can ensure you that he would of like this very much cause i know he spends money on his Host having a Dedicated Server Advertising and all sorts of things, but $5 is a small fee that is nothing compared to what others would ask for, and we are just asking for as many players as we can so we can give more to the winners and to Soldat, but thats your choice and we can only give you a Contract that is it, otherwise you will just have to trust us, Michal has told me about the other scammers, but we are a Legalized site, that has been given permission to hold cash prizes by our State Lawyers that is the only way you can do that, other wise you could go to jail, so and i doubt if i'm going to scam people out of $5 just to go to Jail sorry i'm much smarter than that, but if you don't want to do this then we will go and leave Soldat to get it's on Money.
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You to find any Gaming site you will need to look there are only 3 in the entire net, Franchisegaming, GameBattles, and Xtreme Platforms and i can promise those are it, those are are the only 3 gaming ladder sites
I know GameBattles but never heard of Franchisegaming or Xtreme Platforms. And hey. How about Electronic Sports League or ClanBase? Most likely the two largest gaming ladder sites there are. And apparently you haven't even heard of them! And I'm sure there are many more.
And your forums... http://www.franchisegaming.com/index.php?action=forum... 174 total posts.
Get real dude. I don't want to take this any further but there's a limit to bullshit. Anyone who has visited your site can tell it's not very active.
And stop capitalizing random words. It makes your posts look kinda bad.
Or does This look Good. I don't Think it does Because it does not Make Any sense at All.
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Shame really, as its a nice idea. But you really do have to consider a few things here...
Soldat has grown considerably over the past 4 years, and a supposed average of 40000 individuals play per day. Regardless, this is a pretty tight-knit gaming community, and most of Soldat's players aren't involved at all in any of Soldat's communities. Those involved however grow to having heard of numerous other players at least a little, having seen mention of others names or playing with them on one of the more popular Soldat servers. Â A bit like a village, only less inbreeding.
...then enters a stranger to our little world asking for cash to fund a tournement with no specific rules, admins or reputation in supposedly any gaming community. You can understand the suspicion then, surely.
Advertise the rules a little more clearly, let people know what'll happen, and consider using the Monsoonix advert banners if you're really eager to get attention (it'll cost ya though). Otherwise, to put it bluntly, you're a bit of a fish out of water here.
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One thing those Ladder systems are Country based like Europe and we are world wide, Actually me and Michal have already discussed it, i am willing to put this under a contract and like i have also said there's no point in typing a 2 page post about rules and how this will work if you guys don't join that is why i posted the first post to see how many people would criticize us, and turn it down but if i see you will accept the contract that we are writing up well you won't but Michal will take it then we will post everything we need to, you guys are not reading my post, otherwise you wold stop saying the same things, so until you completely understand something please don't criticize someone, our in tensions were to post this and see how many members looked interested and if a good bit then we were going to post everything i posted how to pay to see what people would say and if there would pay, like Michal told me post what i needed to post to get the info i needed to get, and that's all i was trying to do you on the other hand are taking this out of context, we are only wanting to see if a decent amount of people will like this tourney and actually join it, But we are writing up and Legal contract and i am getting my Lawyers to Sign it and Michal will be given it to ensure him that if we still hold this then it will all be legal, so please do not criticize something that you don't understand.
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One thing those Ladder systems are Country based like Europe and we are world wide, Actually me and Michal have already discussed it, i am willing to put this under a contract and like i have also said there's no point in typing a 2 page post about rules and how this will work if you guys don't join that is why i posted the first post to see how many people would criticize us, and turn it down but if i see you will accept the contract that we are writing up well you won't but Michal will take it then we will post everything we need to, you guys are not reading my post, otherwise you wold stop saying the same things, so until you completely understand something please don't criticize someone, our in tensions were to post this and see how many members looked interested and if a good bit then we were going to post everything i posted how to pay to see what people would say and if there would pay, like Michal told me post what i needed to post to get the info i needed to get, and that's all i was trying to do you on the other hand are taking this out of context, we are only wanting to see if a decent amount of people will like this tourney and actually join it, But we are writing up and Legal contract and i am getting my Lawyers to Sign it and Michal will be given it to ensure him that if we still hold this then it will all be legal, so please do not criticize something that you don't understand.
Maybe I should become an English teacher.
Anyway, your little site is too small for any large number of people to take seriously, and even if they do, do you really think someone with such a small chance of winning such a small prize would enter?
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But we are writing up and Legal contract and i am getting my Lawyers to Sign it
is that a joke?
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... you guys are not reading my post, otherwise you wold stop saying the same things, so until you completely understand something please don't criticize someone...
Organize your posts then. You're just bundling all your input into fat paragraphs. Use that Enter key, and as already stated before, fix up your grammar.
And you never answered DragonSlayer's question (how many players do you already have?).
i doubt if i'm going to scam people out of $5 just to go to Jail sorry i'm much smarter than that...
Oh, don't worry ;) You won't go to prison because no one will sign up in the first place (seriously, if you're only advertising here I think it'd be safe to say hardly any Soldat fans here will join this).
One thing; those ladder systems are country-based like Europe, and we are worldwide. Actually, Michal and I have already discussed it; I am willing to put this under a contract and like I have also said, there's no point in typing a 2-page post about rules and how this will work if you guys don't join; that is why I posted the first post (to see how many people would criticize us, and turn it down), but if I see you will accept the contract that we are writing up... well, you won't, but Michal will take it, then we will post everything we need to.
You guys are not reading my posts; otherwise you would stop saying the same things, so until you completely understand something, please don't criticize someone; our intentions were to post this and see how many members looked interested and, if a good bit was, then we were going to post everything. Iposted how to pay to see what people would say, and if they would pay, like Michal told me, post what I needed to post to get the info I needed to get, and that's all I was trying to do.
You, on the other hand, are taking this out of context; we are only wanting to see if a decent amount of people will like this tourney and actually join it. But we are writing up an legal contract and I am getting my lawyers to sign it, and Michal will be given it to ensure him that if we still hold this then it will all be legal, so please do not criticize something that you don't understand.
See? It's not at all hard. I'd do that for all your posts if I had the time. (BTW, for the time being, my keyboard's busted; I've basically been clicking nonstop all this time with the On-Screen Keyboard program, which doesn't always register every click.)
What I don't understand is you trying to act so professional in handling all this. We may be indeed taking this out of context, but at least be more specific while you're correcting us.
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hehe...seriously...your fighting a losing argument FG Owner. I ain't entering this because 1) I'm a cheapskate, and 2) I don't trust you. You can even get Michal to sign a dotted line and everything, have some bull**** contract, and back it all up with 50+ lawyers...and I won't trust it.
How many people have you scammed already? I know that question seems a little harsh...but I'm sure everyone would love to know!
I dare you to go to the Counterstrike: Source community and do what you did here. They would all say the same as us. "Scammer"....But...with that game...wheres the "$300" going to go?
Basicly...organise yourself better, and PLAN. Hell...You need to learn how to scam people...cause what you did here was shocking!.....
You've been shot down here like a duck in season....so I'd leave...quickly...
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I thought that this was a joke when I looked at this.
If it was a tourny with no entrance fee, then I would join in, reguardless if there was a prize.
Sorry but you probably won't make any money here.
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FG Owner, this is a tightly knit community, people just don't trust you because you aren't well known and you don't present yourself as trustworthy. Had you been from a well-known clan or a popular server admin, we'd understand and probably try to help you out. Even then, there's no way you'd get 200 people to join from these forums alone. You might get that many by advertising on Soldat itself, but I don't think it's ever been tested that way. Eh, that damn Naruto fan beat me to the punch and basically said what I just typed. Preemptive copycat...
Everyone else: It's time to give the guy a break. No need to spam his thread or accuse him of scamming us -- if you think it's a scam, just don't join up. If you want to help out, there are plenty of ways you can do it (advertise for him, offer to admin it, etc.). If you're worried about where that extra money will go, understand that he is offering a service and he deserves to be compensated.
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I ain't entering this because 1) I'm a cheapskate, and 2) I don't trust you. You can even get Michal to sign a dotted line and everything, have some bull**** contract, and back it all up with 50+ lawyers...and I won't trust it.
so why the hell are you here? leave him alone, hes trying his hardest to prove to all of you that hes not trying to scam anyone, if you dont trust it just stfu and dont post, enter at your own risk and quit flaming him you assholes.
honestly even if he does scam $5 what are you gonna do? sue him? geebus
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And if he scams $5 bucks from 200 players? 's a lot of money wasted, you could donate as much to Flies at that rate.
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thats why im saying ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK, I dont care how you use your money, just quit pulling shyt out of your ass and claiming hes going to scam you, either SHUT UP, enter the tournament, or ask him questions politely
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Ok now i am the real FG Owner the guy that was posting for me was a staff member,.
Ok first off we are not scammers and when you sit here and say stuff like that with out knowing for a fact then other peolpe read this it makes our site look bad, ok second our site has been around since the beginning of the year we closed it down with over 10k plus members in our data base because our home page was hack, and we moved to a dedicated server with site hacking tools encrytped so.
Now the very first post i posted, just to see how many people would actaully join, ok second it would also give me all the info i needed on how many peoplle trusted us, Michal emailed me and told me to post somthing to see what you thought i told my staff not to put in the 2 page post on how it would work if you guys don't trust us and won't join anyways, and we are holding a CSS tourney Entrance Fee $5 so go a little further to check that out we are advertising that next.
But yes i can get my Lawyers to sign a contract and no that is not a joke. But if you guys really don't trust us thats fine it's not our lose and i know it's been said before we are here to help Michal and his site out. So whether you want us to do this or not we still have to do it we have already planned it so we still want to do it and a couple of my staff have played this game they said, what their names are not really sure there but i do know they play, I have the game FG Owner is my name i'm still learning how to play but thats not the point, the point is please do not accuse us of somthing that we are not, if you had proven facts then thats different, but if you won't give us a chance to show you we are not scammers then thats fine we will not hold this Tourney..
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Wait a sec.....If I pay 5 dollas, and win the tourney, I get $160? kickass!
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... i'm still learning how to play but thats not the point
If you do not have much game experience, how are you then expecting yourselves to be good referees? For an example, if you haven't played then how are you going to tell if somebody is cheating?
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Ok now i am the real FG Owner the guy that was posting for me was a staff member,.
Now the very first post i posted...
Consistency man, consistency! You'll never trick win their hearts that way.
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Ok i said some of my staff do play and once i can point their names out i will and all the staff refing this tourney are actaully reading the rules of Soldat, i will not be refing this i have too much stuff to do then to be refing this, this is why we get some of the moeny now if we didn't ref, then more of the money would go to Michal.
But seeing is how we have to set this up, ref some games (if soldat staff don't), and now i have to spend the time with my Laywer to write a contract if needing to be, then we ask for some money, that is only fair. we are trying to do this to help out Soldat, not asking to be called scammers and cheaters and stealers and w/e esle, If you guys really don't trust us then i will talk to Mchal and tell him we won't do this, this is your guys's choice.
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Ok now i am the real FG Owner the guy that was posting for me was a staff member,.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......ha....I think this is the end of the wannabe hoax. Or is it?
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(if soldat staff don't)
Who are the Soldat staff?
all the staff refing this tourney are actaully reading the rules of Soldat,
Rules of Soldat? The manual? I tell you, you won't find a guide on how to spot a hacker or how to recognize one just by reading a manual, you need actual experience in the game.
and now i have to spend the time with my Laywer to write a contract if needing to be
What is the name of your lawyer?
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Pardon me, Mr. FG "Owner," but I've dealt with people like you.
Not just trying to run forum scams (which I whole-heartedly believe this is,) but doing other things to scam people out of their cash. RATs, WoW Gold, RuneScape account scammers, etc.
Allow me to list the reasons why I think this is bull.
1. Grammar. At least try to pretend you're competent and are older than the age of 18.
2. False sense of security bull****. As soon as the community starts doubting you, you break into a song of "I GOT DA LAW BEHIND ME" in F minor.
3. Obvious lack of experience with Soldat. You even have stated that you haven't played this game, yet you expect to spot hacking and other foul play.
4. Need for a lot of players. You charge 5 dollars, and then you expect massive amounts of players to join before the tournament will start.
5. Claiming staff is posting under your name. Outcast's post pretty much sums that up.
So, I'm sorry, but I, and I'm sure many other members of the Soldat community, are not going to sign up for this tournament, even if Michal approved of it.
P.S. 300 FOR RUNNING THIS TOURNEY!? Something tells me you don't have staff you're going to split it between.
EDIT:Almost forgot, you use an AOL ADDRESS!? Bwahahahaha.
EDIT2:You misspelled "tru" on your website.
EDIT3:And you misspelled "FEee" on the PayPal form.
EDIT4:SCAM ALERT! The PayPal address is SuperVetenks55@aol.com, while the address you told us to email was MajinHendricks@aol.com, and claim it's for "security reasons"? LIES.
EDIT5: From the FG forums:
If you here from the soldat forums for more info on the soldat tourney here it is.
SOLDAT
1,000 PPL
entry fee. 5.00 per person
1st 2nd and 3rd place winners will recieve CASH PRIZES
10 refs
1 ref that speaks polish
1 ref that speaks German
So if your interested in a ref spot. There should be a link on the homepage about staff hiring, It should have instrutions on your spot on the FG family that you would like.
FG PHAROH: some things have been changed including the amount of ppl recieving prizes and the amount of ppl alowed to enter. updates coming soon!
Jesus Christ, you're expecting the collective Soldat community to trust you with 5,000 dollars?
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you won't get 200 people to join even if it is free
and by saying Ok now i am the real FG Owner the guy that was posting for me was a staff member,.
you just lost any credibility you had
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One thing those Ladder systems are Country based like Europe and we are world wide, Actually me and Michal have already discussed it, i am willing to put this under a contract and like i have also said there's no point in typing a 2 page post about rules and how this will work if you guys don't join that is why i posted the first post to see how many people would criticize us, and turn it down but if i see you will accept the contract that we are writing up well you won't but Michal will take it then we will post everything we need to, you guys are not reading my post, otherwise you wold stop saying the same things, so until you completely understand something please don't criticize someone, our in tensions were to post this and see how many members looked interested and if a good bit then we were going to post everything i posted how to pay to see what people would say and if there would pay, like Michal told me post what i needed to post to get the info i needed to get, and that's all i was trying to do you on the other hand are taking this out of context, we are only wanting to see if a decent amount of people will like this tourney and actually join it, But we are writing up and Legal contract and i am getting my Lawyers to Sign it and Michal will be given it to ensure him that if we still hold this then it will all be legal, so please do not criticize something that you don't understand.
Would it kill you to use more than one sentence? This is not a style of writing that indicates an intelligent, well-meaning person trying to organize a legitimate tournament.
Date Posted: October 27, 2006, 10:43:49 AM
If you guys really don't trust us then i will talk to Mchal and tell him we won't do this, this is your guys's choice.
Go for it. I think the general consensus is that this is a bad thing, so feel free to rescind your offer.
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Wow, kinda sad that you accuse lord of "scamming: out of 5 dollars, If i wanted to make a quick 5 dollars i just go sell oxys.
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Well, according to the topic's name, "Michal Has Approved Tourney, He has Posted-Last Page", Michal Has Approved Tourney. He has Posted-Last Page. Can Anybody See Michal Post-Last Page?
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It was a while back, so you'll have to look through the posts.
EDIT: Michal really didn't approve of this tourney, he just said give it a chance.
Sorry for posting this late. I can't say anything about if this tourney is valid. All I can say is that FG Owner e-mailed me before this post and we discussed it. Everything he talks about I know, so I say give the tourney a chance, it might be fun.
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Ok, and yea Michal has approved, he told me i had to gain the trust of his members, and trying to get more people in this tourney only allows us to generate more money to give out, so whether you think we are trying to scam you out of the money or not thats your own oponion.
The reasons for having a different PayPal User account is pretty much that was my first account that i ever had and what point do you have that i use a aol account just points out that i can afford it and it's a reliable source of internet service. And when i say i have the law behind me that states the fact that i have got the legal right to hold cash prize tourney's which means i have went to the South Carolina Chamber of Commerce of Internet Affairs and sat down with a personel and talked to him about what we are about and told him what we do and after getting us a state laywer i then started to pursue the goal we all had at Franchise Gaming , doing things like this.
But when poeple like yourselfs sit here and down talk a site you have no way of proving are scammers and liers, then that just makes us look bad and just in the long run when we actually do prove ourselfs then it makes you look pretty much retarded and then you start to think what could of they have really done for us.. But again thats your choice, And yes once i make the contract thats one thing even your crap talk can't even down size cause thats legal proof and there's nothing you can do to say that will justify you saying that we are trying to scam you casue if we did, after we gave Michal the contract then he could sue us for excatly how much we took from you.. So before you tell me how the law works and call me a lai try to get some cold hard fatcs that you can prove. I know for a fact that all we were trying to do was have a little fun and get some reputation here, and among PC online Game players but when people have no facts and down a site then it makes it hard to even have a site..
And just because grammer is all wrong or even a little and words are capped here and there doesn't mean anything what it doesn mean is that you are running out of things to say so you have to find other things to say like that, thats all.. So all we were trying to do was help Soldat and Michal knows that. whether ya'll believe it or not..
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`Nuff Said
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I'd rather look retarded than know the Soldat Community got screwed for 1000, this just doesn't seem legit at all.
The reasons for having a different PayPal User account is pretty much that was my first account that i ever had and what point do you have that i use a aol account just points out that i can afford it and it's a reliable source of internet service,
Do you like DragonBall by any chance Mr. Owner?
You can get AOL mail for free, see attachment for proof.
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Heres some advice, host a no-entry fee tournament first.
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Ok well i have AOL, but that aint the point, the point is we are not trying to scam you, and w/e way we can gain your trust please tell us, we won't to give to this site, and there are only a few ways to do that, this being one.
But if you guys really don't want this tourney then thats fine, we jsut thought that Michal would like this in all.. We will still try back later and see if anytihng but right know wer are hosting a Call of Duty 2 Cah Prize Tourney so maybe go out and buy it and ask some of the guys on there about us they will tell you we are a legit site..
And someone had said i mispelled tru in my slogan thats how i wanted it spell.. "The Tru Gamers PlayGournd" just like that..
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PlayGournd? Even if that was meant to be PlayGround, you dont capitalize the G... How old are you anyway? And you need to capitalize your I's! And you dont need 6 commas in one sentence... And 'aint' is not a word! Sieg Heil grammar nazi o/o/o/ :)
But yeah, you can't possibly expect a random such as yourself to just barge into the Soldat world and get people to send you money. You have to make a name for yourself, host a free Tournament would have been the logical thing to do first... And also not writing rules just showes you aren't willing to put in much effort into this... No one is going to join a Tournament when there are no rules and/or examples of how its going to be played.
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Well were also kinda working writing up rules, Its not like this is our only arena that we do
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My grammer has nothing to do with this this is a Forum not a life resume or somthing, so i really don't care how i spell, or what i cap. And i can use w/e words i would like, but if you don't like it then thats fine don't realy care, and like Bill said this is not the only area we do nor is this the only tourney we are doing, so we must be given time and like i've said in like 30 posts Michal told me to post somthing about it to see what would happen not post everything actually.
So thats what i did post a little bit of info and if you guys seemed interested then we would post the rest. So stop repeating yourselfs cause it makes no point, make a point then let me defend us thats all, don't repeat somthing eslse said...
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My grammer has nothing to do with this this is a Forum not a life resume or somthing, so i really don't care how i spell, or what i cap. And i can use w/e words i would like, but if you don't like it then thats fine don't realy care, and like Bill said this is not the only area we do nor is this the only tourney we are doing, so we must be given time and like i've said in like 30 posts Michal told me to post somthing about it to see what would happen not post everything actually.
So thats what i did post a little bit of info and if you guys seemed interested then we would post the rest. So stop repeating yourselfs cause it makes no point, make a point then let me defend us thats all, don't repeat somthing eslse said...
If you really want this tournament to go ahead, and have the soldat community backing it. You should ask some trusted member of the community (eg. FliesLikeABrick) to to be the 'middle' man and keep ahold of the entrance fees, and then give the payouts as need be.
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Oh OK I Can See The Post Now-So Is Anybody Actually Going To Join-Because I, Am, Not.
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My grammer has nothing to do with this this is a Forum not a life resume or somthing, so i really don't care how i spell, or what i cap. And i can use w/e words i would like, but if you don't like it then thats fine don't realy care, and like Bill said this is not the only area we do nor is this the only tourney we are doing, so we must be given time and like i've said in like 30 posts Michal told me to post somthing about it to see what would happen not post everything actually.
So thats what i did post a little bit of info and if you guys seemed interested then we would post the rest. So stop repeating yourselfs cause it makes no point, make a point then let me defend us thats all, don't repeat somthing eslse said...
If you really want this tournament to go ahead, and have the soldat community backing it. You should ask some trusted member of the community (eg. FliesLikeABrick) to to be the 'middle' man and keep ahold of the entrance fees, and then give the payouts as need be.
good idea
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We could do that, And soldaters..I give you my word that FranchiseGaming will not fuc* you guys over. To show how true we are to this, I might have to put 5gz of my own money in there
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Either way i could really care less, We need reputations with Cash Prizes, and we thought we could do it here. And it doesn't work like that.
If Michals host won't allow him to take money from his database users and he does he could go to jail like i've said you have to be with the law to do stuff like this, but no the only person we would need to give the money to would be Michal he's the owner or one of his Admin staff either way we just want our names on this tourney, saying we held it ran it and delt with the money whether we deal with the money we just need to allow peolpe to trust us. And peolpe like this don't help.. You can send your money to Michal thats fine we jsut want our names all over this "meaning this is our tourney e set it up and everything so if you want to do that then we can arrange that".
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Alright then.
Where will the servers be located?
What kind of connection will they be on?
Are you going to use a Soldat hosting company for the servers?
Either way i could really care less, We need reputations with Cash Prizes, and we thought we could do it here. And it doesn't work like that.
If Michals host won't allow him to take money from his database users and he does he could go to jail like i've said you have to be with the law to do stuff like this, but no the only person we would need to give the money to would be Michal he's the owner or one of his Admin staff either way we just want our names on this tourney, saying we held it ran it and delt with the money whether we deal with the money we just need to allow peolpe to trust us. And peolpe like this don't help.. You can send your money to Michal thats fine we jsut want our names all over this "meaning this is our tourney e set it up and everything so if you want to do that then we can arrange that".
So you're saying that you just want to run this to get publicity? And you want as much money from us as possibly to get that publicity?
EDIT: POST FASTER.
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FG Owner. Grammar may not matter in any usual event, but this is not any usual event. If you want to be professional, especially in hosting a commercial tournament which is partially for your profit, you would present yourself professionally and at least use a spellcheck program with your posts.
And to be honest, if I were you I would just give up (I'm not trying to be mean, I seriously would). So many people here already oppose the idea, it appears :-\
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Hatttterrrsss >_>
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i think you should put an option of none on the poll so you can see how many aren't going to play
8)
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Hatttterrrsss >_>
You can stop kissing ass now, Mr. StaffOnFGSite.
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Hatttterrrsss >_>
You can stop kissing ass now, Mr. StaffOnFGSite.
Huh?
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Well were also kinda working writing up rules, Its not like this is our only arena that we do
He's one of the staff, apparently.
FG Owner. You think it doesn't matter how you present yourself? Doesn't matter if you don't cross your t's or dot the i's? Think again.
Even internet tourneys are a business. As a business, image is everything. What goes hand in hand with delivering a quality image is a quality product. As a few people have pointed out in detail, there are a few things lacking with your quality.
If you want to do a tourney for Soldat, you have to keep a few things in mind. Rules are key, for starters. So why not go about figuring out the rules of the event before creating the event itself?
Second is credibility. No one has heard of you here. What's more, if you put forth the image that it doesn't matter how you write or act, your cause is legit...people tend to doubt you. I would be one of them at the moment. If you honestly went to see someone in the South Carolina Chamber of Commerce of Internet Affairs, perhaps you could give us the contact information so we could verify your claims once and for all? Should be an easy thing to do - this sort of thing doesn't happen without contact info and a way for concerned consumers to get in touch via the proper channels.
If you honestly want to defend what you're doing here, then abide by what we say. Become familiar with the game before you hold a tourney for it, or better yet, get people who are active with the game and can actually spot hacks and misconduct to mod. No offense, but staffers who are just now becoming familiar with the game are in no position to moderate a tournament. What's more, just because your AOL account was your first account is nothing but sentimental idealism. No one cares what your first account is, go through a legit means of securing peoples cash. If some medium was actually agreed upon then that's just fine, although Flies is very busy as is.
You stand to benefit from this. Step up to the plate and prove you're legit, because words are somewhat meaningless. Especially when you can't even spell them properly.
Edit: Funny...I've been looking through the South Carolina Chamber of Commerce website, but I can't find anything about a South Carolina Chamber of Commerce of Internet Affairs, or anything similar.
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Bad grammar...meh...I wouldn't dare join a tourney for 5 bucks,even if that is cheap...every once in a while I miss a space,but that is because my space bar is missing one of the two springs inside of it.(The two tiny little ones)
Yeah...after reading Geo's short essay,(Very well written might I add:) ) I have to say I agree. Give proof,and people may get interested.May, as in probably not.
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You can't find that one a website. That's like calling a in a complaint on a business and asking for the guys name that's calling in, that's illegal only the owner of a business has the right to view his or her site name on a local website, any any state.. So if i wanted to make us known to be a part of the SCC IA, then i would call in and say please put as a Secure Site letting to be know from the
http://www.scattorneygeneral.org/public/index.php (http://www.scattorneygeneral.org/public/index.php)
so until you actually check up on some things please don't bullsh*t something that you can't win or even understand, your trying to prove that i have not gone and got my legal rights to do this, and if not then why am i even still trying. Well that would only be because i don't like to be called a scammer and a scammer would have given up o lets say a hole 4 pages ago. So don't quesion my knowledge on the Law and what we are about, cause I can tell you know you'll lose that battle and this LIKE I'VE SAID PLENTY OF TIMES WAS NOT THE REAL THING I CAN SWEAR I HAVE SAID THAT LIKE 100 TIMES, I ONLY POSTED SOME INFO TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK ABOUT IT, SO READ, DON'T HAVE AS* READ MY STUFF THEN CLICK REPLY REALLY FAST THEN NOT READ THE OTHER HALF.
Cause then i have to repeat myself like 900 times. Michal told me to post something about it then you will get what you need. So again please get all the facts from all the post be making assumptions. And like i've said we won't even do this if your that got your self thinking that much that we are scamers, but we will try to host a none cash tourney then come back later to redo this some other time. But untill then have fun..
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We'll lose? If you haven't still realized you wont get this tourney on and you'r the only one here who's going to lose somethin', if you still have something to lose...
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FG, u seem to miss something here... u want to have this tournament, so u are the one who will have to prove this is for real. Were not the ones that will have to prove the tournament is fake or not. So far i havent seen much real proof for it being real, therefore i wont join now... if u give some decent information about rules and other stuff, i might change my mind :)
Also, keep it easy with the caps. Its not like we cant read normal letters here.
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I have nothing to lose here, we were trying to get this going to give somthing to Michal there is no other way we can prove this the only thing we can do is make you give all your money to Michal that is it. So if you can't od that then this tourney will not be held.
Otherwise don't say stuff like that about a site like we are scamers unless you have actually proof, cause i have given all the info i can give about us being legit so there is nothing more i can do, except see if you all will pay Michal your money.
And we can go from there, but we still need a certain amount of players thats the bottom lin we are trying to offer as much as we can to Soldat, and if you can't even do that then that jsut shows how much you appreciate Michal even making this game and you trying to give somthing back to him. But thats your choice again..
Thats it thats all we can offer you send all your money to Michal so accept it or deny it thats it..
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Send all our money to Michael? I don't think Michael wants that either. Dude stop speaking nonsense, if you didn't get it, you wont get players to your "tourney"
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Not saying ur a scammer, im simply stating the fact that u dont really take this very professional. U say it urself... u dont have anything to lose. We however have 5 bucks to lose if we compete in this, so we would like to see some clear stuff before we actually join this :)
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Guys stop downgrading what FG says. He's only trying to get a tournament going to support soldat and a chance to win some cash :D . If it is a scam its only $5, so its not much of a loss.
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Alright alright... lets just.... start over.
Are people interested in a cash tournement? Yes and no. Most players are too young to afford their own means of paying that $5 charge, and theres only around 75 people out of 2-3000 members on this forum that are above the age of 20.
There are many other Soldat forums than these official Soldat forums though, most of them based around nationality. Might want to also ask them.
If you want people to consider joining your tournement, i'd reccomend this approach.
Layout a strict and established set of rules, methods, gaming style, admins, and so on. Look around for the SCTFL, ESL, and other soldat-related league and tournement websites for ideas. People won't join what they don't understand, so lay it out nice and simple for everyone to see.
Before that, it might be wise to consider your general reputation. No one around here knows you, nor seemingly any other gaming community. I remember you stating earlier that you had to re-establish your website due to hackers, but shouldn't all of your members re-joined your forums by now?
I must say, you have taken a some what childish approach in your numerous posts here, and filled them with potential lies. Not a good approach at all pal.
 It might be wise to start a little lower on the expectations before asking kids for cash, or maybe offer to help one of numerous other leagues with whatever services you have to offer, or even have others well known in the community help you.
Also to attract attention, theres the monsoonix advert banner that unregistered users see when loading Soldat. A nice way to attract attention for a few bucks. Google it or search the forums for more info on any of the above.
I'm going to lock this topic now, as it's just repeating itself. Feel free to make a new one, and we'll consider it you starting afresh. If you got a tournement, show the good people what it actually involves and what will happen before it, during it, and after it. Or, like your first post, feel free to ask people what they actually want. But don't expect people to sign up to something unestablished.