people now sayin snipers are noobish

[excruciator]

Sniping out the screen=10% skill and 90% luck ("noob")

most of the outscreen snipe are luck however, when a target escapes with jet or ran away, you can sometime "guess" where they are gonna end up and "boom". Perfect shot. (this guess is based on many factors include speed of the target, the direction where the target went, and where is the closest  solid ground to the target)

long range sniping=sniperspray ("noob")

agreed

Killing people while moving really fast= 80% skill and 20% luck

right again!!! but it does not apply when you now how to stop MovimentAcc

[ChromedGun]

the user gain my respect when he can snipe out screen while moving in the air, using barrett like a ruger(no delay, well, it seems that it has no delay), long range sniping(diagonal or from one side to the other) and killing people while moving sickly fast
(marksmans)

Marksmen? Hackers, lol. They don't gain my respect.

[Espadon]

...sickly fast
(marksmans)

Where the hell did you come up with that label? Do you even know what a marksman is?

A Barrett's purpose is to snipe. A good sniper is a sniper who can take out high-value targets (like an opposing team's rusher who consistently takes out many friendly rushers and other snipers) while evading death themselves, thereby not becoming a liability for the team. Barrett Assaulters have trouble when faced with multiple targets due to their slow recycle time, thereby becoming a liability if not accompanied by proper cover fire. I'd take an AK over a Barrett to assault any day. Am I too TW-minded?

[excruciator]

yes you are...
all units in soldat are have equal value. only thing time that a player would have a superior value is when he's carrying a flag.

and lets not go into the real life sniping warfare, soldat is different

[Pie]

The barret, is now only good for spaming. I for one, Never use the barret for aiming anymore, scince 1.4 came out, My use of the barret has decreased so much that i would rather use degals then a barret.
It seems that in an order to make the barret less powerful they have degraded it beyond recginition. They aimed for a mid point and missed, now it just plain sucks.

[Dev1200]

I hate how ANY AUTO is a spraying weapon.  Snipers are noobs, rugers are noobs, shotgunners are noobs, deagles are wimpy, upclose weapons (knife, chainsaw) are noob.

Pritty much, everyone hates all the weapons.  They should just GTFO if they don't like it :]

All weapons have thier issues.  Spas has weak distance, snipers are shit when they miss, and autos, well, lets just say autos are hard ;]

[SpiltCoffee]

Spas has weak distance? I have to disagree with you there...

I think most people start to dislike a certain weapon when everyone on the opposing team starts using it. I know I hate it when everyone uses M79's and Barretts, and I'm using an MP5.

[SirJamesaford]

Spas has a weak distance... thats not even debatable.

[Twistkill]

Spas has a weak distance... thats not even debatable.

It actually received a range boost in 1.4, as well as -1 fireinterval, which means it now fires faster. In 1.3.1 it was easier to avoid, but now that it has more initial velocity, this also increases its overall damage inflicted, so it's not only easy to use, but it can also be a 2 hit kill from farther away than expected.

[SirJamesaford]

Yes but even tho it can go further it still has a weak distance.

[SpiltCoffee]

It can kill you a screen away in a couple of hits. In my opinion, it doesn't have a weak distance...

[SirJamesaford]

A screen away in 2 hits?   OOOOOOO I beg to differ.

[excruciator]

A screen away in 2 hits?   OOOOOOO I beg to differ.

I have to agree with elbow here.

spas always had range probs however the recent improvement  made the spas a mid-long range weapon as well.

[Espadon]

Okay. Barrett ---> Don't lame it anymore.

As I've said on some serves, if you're a rusher that keeps getting sniped,

LEARN TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.