Suicide

[LtKillroy]

Here's what I believe: what's the point. Most of you will probably agree you don't know exactly, exactly what is it like after death. Therefore, I would stick around as long as possible. Also, everyone has problems, IMO its how we deal with them. There is treatment for thoughts such as these. These among other thigs. Since this is going nowhere, this is my last post in this thread.

[yv3]

/kill
/brutalkill

sometime i like to die like a man with honor in a good match

Many guys prefer to give up in another way to reach that same goal. Being an asshole or hurting yourself is similar, only slower.

In most cases the parents are guilty, so its an serious discussion.

[KorrupT MerC]

I want to submit my 2 and a half cents please!!!!

My view on suicide, the situation could justify it or not, IMO.

Now lets be hypothetical, Im sure everyone knows about the bombing of the world trade centers. Lets say you were stuck in the building and the fire was a couple floors below you, now would you stay there and just burn to death slowly and painfully hoping someone would save you? or would you make it fast and just take one quick leap unto your demise? For me, i would have jumped if i knew i was about to burn to death, i dont think i would want to suffer the pain of burning.

So really i would say the only time suicide is justified is if your being tortured and you have no way out, why prolong the inevitable, it would probably cause depression(knowing your gonna die slowly) just adding to your misfortunes?

If you commit suicide because of depression, you obviously didnt think about the situation enough, but too late now right?

Another situation, your on your death bed, the only way your still alive is by that damn machine sitting next to you, breathing for you, now would you stay alive by that machine or would you just get it over with?

[yv3]

Another situation, your on your death bed, the only way your still alive is by that damn machine sitting next to you, breathing for you, now would you stay alive by that machine or would you just get it over with?

Yeah, imagine you wake up and ALL people are only botz. What would you do?   

But yes, i would maybe also do the same.

[KorrupT MerC]

Meaning life support, but good guess.

[Tallacaps]

Suicide is logic if own life have no hope.
I.e. People being tortured with no possibility of escape.

It's a perception question. If life is entire pain and your own ethics are ****ed too then it's logic.

Anyway humans are designed to survive.

No dumb motives to suicide. Suicides are not dumb.

Suicide is different from an western and eastern point of view.
Western say is coward. Suicide is desesperation. Suicide don't trust in God/Life. Because in the most ages Christianity thought this world is a world of pain.

Eastern say is brave and honourish. Living without honor is being a coward.

[KorrupT MerC]

You do make a good point, samurai's called it honorable... christians are torn on the idea though... some say you'd be damned to hell, others say depending on your situation, you could be forgiven...

[The Trooper [GN`R]]

You do make a good point, samurai's called it honorable... christians are torn on the idea though... some say you'd be damned to hell, others say depending on your situation, you could be forgiven...

Im asking me if hell's really the worst place
because you go there for your sins
cant you live there your sins out
7

and now to suicide
I would kill myself when I were dead ill
or I`m too old to do things on my own
or now if I had an accident and I'm banned in a fucking chair

[Smegma]

Eastern say is brave and honourish. Living without honor is being a coward.

No, not at all. Maybe some.

[Svirin Kerath]

Let me clear up the whole Bushido suicide thing.

Many people have it mixed up with the WWII bastardization of Bushido, which basically said "Go and die."

In true Samurai Bushido, Seppukku, or Hara Kiri, was only necessary if the Samurai had shamed himself significantly- he would stab himself with what was essentially a dagger, cut through his stomach in a specific pattern, spilling his internal organs, all while being alive. Then one of his men would chop off his head to kill him.

He doesn't actually kill himself. Most times one of his soldiers does it for him.

[jap_man]

Well lets face it, it's pretty easy for half of you kids sitting in your nice computer chairs to say that suicide is the cowards way out, when really it's as clear as day that you have never experienced the suicide of someone close to you or know someone close to you that has attempted in the past. Either that or you are completely clueless and insincere.

Depression is serious business, I mean it's not always something that you can quite simply pull yourself out of with a snap of the fingers, especially when you are having suicidal thoughts that are induced through depression.

The most important thing that a person that is suffering from suicidal thoughts is to seek help as soon as possible or if you know someone that is having such thoughts, to offer them as much help as you can. Even something as simple as lending them an ear and listening to their problems or pointing them in the right direction can go a long way for a person thats at the lowest point in their life.

There's no debate of the fact that suicide is a selfish action, but there's a point in some people's life that they feel that suicide is the only way out. Like once a person commits suicide it's not them that suffers, its the people around them that care about them that do. Friends, family, classmates, colleagues etc. But for someone to totally block all these people out of their thoughts, it paints a grim picture of someones state of mind before they do the deed.

[Svirin Kerath]

Well lets face it, it's pretty easy for half of you kids sitting in your nice computer chairs to say that suicide is the cowards way out, when really it's as clear as day that you have never experienced the suicide of someone close to you or know someone close to you that has attempted in the past. Either that or you are completely clueless and insincere.

Depression is serious business, I mean it's not always something that you can quite simply pull yourself out of with a snap of the fingers, especially when you are having suicidal thoughts that are induced through depression.

The most important thing that a person that is suffering from suicidal thoughts is to seek help as soon as possible or if you know someone that is having such thoughts, to offer them as much help as you can. Even something as simple as lending them an ear and listening to their problems or pointing them in the right direction can go a long way for a person thats at the lowest point in their life.

There's no debate of the fact that suicide is a selfish action, but there's a point in some people's life that they feel that suicide is the only way out. Like once a person commits suicide it's not them that suffers, its the people around them that care about them that do. Friends, family, classmates, colleagues etc. But for someone to totally block all these people out of their thoughts, it paints a grim picture of someones state of mind before they do the deed.

Basically what I was trying to say before.

[BondJamesBond]

A suicide, about ten years ago in my area.

"Mr. High was at his desk, looking at his firm’s benefits booklet to figure out how to arrange counseling for Jared, when the telephone rang.  It was Jared, who announced he had just called to say “Goodbye.”  Mr. High tried to engage him in conversation, but there was no response, and he heard a “pop,” a sound like something falling, and then silence.  Not knowing what to think, he drove home.  He found his son on the floor of the family in-home office, dead from a bullet wound to his head, with the telephone off the hook and a .22 pistol on the floor next to him. "

The story

In the end, does it matter if he was doing it 'just for attention'? Everyone has problems, right? Can his suicide be justified?

First, make your assumptions about how this kid was probably just some ignorant prick who didn't appreciate what he had. Then, realize that an innocent life is gone. Next, understand that his life is just as valuable as anyone else's. Finally, read the story.