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Offline Lord Frunkamunch

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a better idea about barrett
« on: June 25, 2008, 02:35:30 pm »
How about keeping the stats more or less the same, but modifying the startup time so that if you click and let go, it would fire instantly, but wouldn't be as accurate as if you had held it the whole time? It's realistic; pulling the trigger too fast when shooting can jerk the gun around.

The main problem with this is you could no longer begin to fire and then stop, because it'd just fire off the half-pulled shot. Which means that people "baiting" out a sniper's shot could easily come into range and duck back into safelty, and they'd either waste the shot (and become a sitting duck) or fire off the innacurate shot, miss, and again become a sitting duck.
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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 03:08:56 pm »
Personally I don't think this is a big enough problem to recode the way delay works.

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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 03:19:57 pm »
Hmm...

You're saying that, you can fire the Barrett really fast by just clicking, since once you release your finger from the mouse button, the Barrett instantly fires, but having the problem of being high inaccurate, as though binked?

Then, if you had held the shoot button for long enough, it would become 100% accurate (unless binked or moving) and would only fire after the button is released? I have a question for this part: Is it the longer you hold, the more accurate, or it would only instantly become accurate after a certain period of time? I prefer it as the second option.



Well... I'm not entirely F12 or F11. But I'll still give it support, more of a F12.



People can just charge in really close, click and kill someone as though it were a M79 or chainsaw or knife. That's the one thing, which isn't good though.

Secondly, which is a good thing, it promotes camping  actually, which is the supposed use of the Barrett. You just sit there, hold down the shoot button, then get ready to fire. see someone? Just release. It's kinda like having no startup time for campers.

Thirdly, people can manipulate it to make it as though there was no startup time, just as it was in number two. Pot-shots. People wait for you to come up while holding their mouse. Then when he's in range, you just jump and release, killing him instantly. This is easier to perform than having a fixed startup time like now. This can be a problem or a good thing, depending on how you see it.

The only problem people may have is mastering the EXACT timing of achieving 100% accuracy and is inconsistent (they may fire a bit faster or a bit too slow), that's not a bad idea to prevent people from actually running with the Barrett, using it as though it were a super Ruger. I suggest that the time to achieve that 100% accuracy is about 30-40 ticks.



I'm for the idea, because it actually in a way promotes camping. It also reduces people who like to run and gun. Why? Either they fire a super inaccurate shot early, or they keep waiting for a chance to fire but may have already missed the chance because they got binked and they are forced to fire and waste a bullet.

Thinking about that, people have a way to not waste their shot. It's the knife tactic. Hold down the throw button and then switch weapon. It can apply to this Barrett.

The idea also gives a better description for the Barrett as a 1-hitter ; if you hit, hurray. You miss OR get binked before you shoot, you suffer. So I think the Barrett stats should be something like what it is now, except that the time it takes for the Barrett to be 100% accurate to be 30-40 ticks.




8th, why do you say it isn't really too big of a problem, and what do you think about it if the problem was a big one?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2008, 03:26:15 pm by STM1993 »

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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 03:41:00 pm »
I don't consider it a problem because as good as no one complains about it, and it'd probably lead to more problem for the stuff you mentioned.

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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 10:06:07 am »
So, you're suggesting that there be a "slapping the trigger" mechanic just to nerf us snipers? Bleh, pass. Besides, to make that work would require some deft reprogramming to the Barrett's overall function. In any case, I like that little bit of startup time.
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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 10:11:43 am »
that would be cool for the law, that way it isn't so horrible.
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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 01:19:14 pm »
So it would fire..when you let go the trigger?

therefore...there would no longer be a delay?(since the gun fires instantly when you release the mouse botton)
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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2008, 07:57:19 pm »
The barrett is the most balanced 1 hit kill weapon in the game. It dont need more nerfing.

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Re: a better idea about barrett
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2008, 09:47:27 pm »
So it would fire..when you let go the trigger?

therefore...there would no longer be a delay?(since the gun fires instantly when you release the mouse botton)

That's the problem, which may make the Barrett used too much like a M79, even though it is made that the Barrett would be very inaccurate unless the trigger is held down after a certain period of time, then it would become 100% accurate unless binked.

Anyway, I think the current Barrett is good enough, no need a nerf or a buff. But it is kinda decided to have Barrett -15 fireinterval.