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What is most unbalanced weapon ?

Desert Eagles
HK MP5
Ak-74
Steyr AUG
Spas-12
Ruger 77
M79
Barrett M82A1
FN Minimi
XM214 Minigun
USSOCOM
Combat Knife
Chainsaw
M72 LAW
Grenades
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Offline The Epic Guy

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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2009, 03:11:08 pm »
minigun is terrible, i doubt it could do anything with it even if you removed the startup!

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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2009, 09:26:00 pm »
STM usually presents the argument that it's more of a support gun and it is an excellent binking/annoyance weapon. This might be true, but the primary goal of the game is to kill people and capture/hold flags. A very simple premise that cannot be carried through with the minigun because of its hindering abilities.
It can push away your opponents who are running towards your base or trying to chase your EFC, which means you can buy some time.

I'd always agree that the minigun's useless as there is little use of it anyway, even if it were superbuffed. However, since it is implemented into Soldat and MM doesn't want to change the weapons, we'd kinda have to leave it as a fun gun. The best that can be done is just disable minigun from the weapons menu.

The movementacc of the Minimi (4) is negated slightly by depressing the movement keys, but unlike the Barrett, you need to keep a stream of bullets on your targets rather than just trying to nail one shot. This means you will fall down much farther than a Barrett user because you will be unable to aim long enough to kill someone if you need to immediately gain altitude due to an unexpected situation.
Correct. Unfortunately, now it's still pretty accurate due to the very low self-bink of the Minimi overriding Minimi's movementacc after a few shots. Not as accurate as how it used to be, but definitely not satisfactory enough, since all a Minimi user needs to change in his tactics is just to shoot it by firing a stream of bullets instead of the usual short bursts, stop, then fire in another stream before the self-bink can recover itself to 0.
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2009, 05:58:03 pm »
Definitely the m79 and no it's not that m79 noob crap again, it simply is overpowered, it may have long reload\short range\1 shot, but goddammit you guys blind or something? it has best arc of all weapons, it kills you without having to hit you, if it hits a spot as much as 3 meters away the splash damage (correct me if i'm wrong is it 12000?) kills you, needs no skill at all in CQC...and it has lag shot issues, meaning in mid air when you shoot at an opponent off the ground it kills him if it even misses him by as much as 2 meters...and that just su**s...seriously, i'm serious.
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2009, 03:19:42 pm »
Everyone that has played Soldat for a considerable amount of time already knows that the minigun is underpowered. The Minigun is useful in realistic mode, but the power in realistic is how it should be in non-realistic. Just my input.
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2009, 07:52:40 am »
2 days ago i was playing SERIOUSLY with the minigun on an inf...6vs6...guess what kind of stats i had against barretards and steyrs? 18\13...call that bad ;d
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2009, 12:10:28 pm »
how did I know that m79 would have the most votes -.-
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2009, 04:28:24 pm »
wth M79 is fine as is
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2009, 10:12:26 am »
Minigun, WAYYYYYYY too weak (minor shot damage increase, more ammo could easily fix the issue, 200 rounds?) Barret needs a 1/4 reduction in time between shots, and m79 needs bink/half second increase between shots, and more damage caused to the user of it at close range (Would reduce rushing and point blank shots)

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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2009, 07:34:13 am »
Now that 1.5 came out, I'd say that spas is easily the most overpowered weapon, mostly because it 2 hits you and has a long distance impact on players since they added speed into it. I don't know why they always tend to make weapons only more powerful, rather than reducing some weapons damages, for example rugers. I think adding more damage isn't the way to balance up weapons since the game gets even more hasten than it is with such a fast kills by overpowered weapons and so. 
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2009, 07:44:40 am »
The minigun has uses...boosting on some ctf maps...and um..yeah. Anyway, if you want to have some minigun fun go into the Soldat weapons text thingy and change the bullet type to 4. oooohhhhhh yeahhhhhhh
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2009, 08:11:51 am »
The votes need to be reset, because we've moved on to a new balance in 1.5, but the votes shown here belong to 1.4.2.

I'll start a new thread.

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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2009, 10:52:02 am »
We could use someone with your experience o watch this kinda thread STM so if you're making one, give us your opinions there, knowing as you may be the forums' most known balance freak. (Just saying.)
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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2010, 02:15:19 pm »
 ;D My personal vote es for minigun :( many bullets,little damage and little aim  :-\   in question shit gun >:(

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Re: Most unbalanced weapon !
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2010, 09:53:58 am »
the reason the minigun isn't well-balanced is because of its different hit-registration. instead of each bullet's trajectory being sent to server, a little-updated player-pointing is passed every once in a while, with bullets being generated randomly on each client's screen and the server.
The minigun just needs a new algorithm that works better!
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