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Offline Anubis

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Something to think about
« on: October 08, 2006, 10:49:08 pm »
This is an opinionated thread about how soldatforums roll. Please heed to these points which are made

1. Dont make any requests to change soldat in terms of completely converting it to feel like a new game. No topics for things like "it would be cool if soldat was more like counterstrike, or unreal tournament, or james bond, or tribes, or Halo, or whatever" Soldat already features the most unique style of gameplay. If you want it to be any of those games, then play them, dont change soldat to them.

2. The weapons are fine. No topics to make weapons easier to use. Consider the fact that whatever your request may be, it may make it easier for the beholder to use, but piss off anyone being killed by it. This is solely why the M79, law & Barret are considered "Unfair" weapons. They get instant kills at an easy rate. (also a theory as to why M79, law & Barret's are cheap below. Feel free to share you're opinion.)

3. Don't change the gameplay of soldat. in thus site It was dissapointin at the amount of requests that would tear up how the game was played. requests for swimming water, vehicles, more stationary guns, bot controls, ladders, shooting peoples jets off, breaking limbs so players would have to crawl (I'd rather be dead than crawling when it comes to soldat) etc. Consider the fact that soldat was originally designed as a fast paced action shooter. Don't make it slower. Soldat is currently far too fast paced to hold any of these things useful.

*Things to take into consideration*

1) Soldat is constantly evolving, and it is silly to expect the way it is played to remain completely static. Obviously there are a lot of features of other games that are best kept out of Soldat, but if we can change the gameplay for the better there is no reason not to do so.

M79/Law/Barret "unfair" Theory
(theory by PaperCut)
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I know there are quite a bit of people who quit playing soldat by the abundance of m79s,law & barrets being selected all the time. Many people say that it is unfair, though they aren't able to back it up. I'm here to prove that those guns are unfair.

Now to be honest. I never use M79 or Barret because I feel that the most "Pro" way of playing soldat, is to use the weapons that are the hardest to kill people with, not the easiest. That's one reason why I request that people dont use those weapons. I don't particularly hate people who use the M79 or barret, but it still frustrates me when players dont vary their weapon selection at all (Use barret, law or m79 ALL THE TIME). I am just showing off this in hopes that people who quit soldat will soon come back to play it again.

So this is how the M79, law & barret are unfair. Unlike the other 11 weapons, Barret, law & M79 provide a way to kill people instantly without melee combat.

Let's use this example:
Danko and Dangerous Dave are playing a DM. Danko and Dangerous dave are both using Mp5s. They both manage to catch each other at the same time and start spraying bullets at each other. Danko manages to get out alive leaving Dangerous Dave in the dust. Danko is down to 15% health meaning that hes not going to have much luck at all killing his next opponent.

After some kills back and forth, Dagerous dave is now using the trusty Barret and Danko is still using the Mp5, and they are both at 100% health. danko and dangerous dave both see each other at the same time again. Dangerous dave is able to blast Danko with the barret at the same time Danko was about to shoot. Danko is dead at 0% health, while Dangerous Dave is at 100%. this 100% health gives Dangerous Dave the oppurtunity to pull off that exact act again, giving him the same easy possibility to get kills.

A barret or M79 user is able to quickly take out their enemies without the horror of getting shot. However, if two people were to use other weapons, (like desert eagles, steyr, ak74, etc) the person who dies is still able to knock off most of his opponent's health. (Which evidently, is a lot more relieving than getting killed with your enemy still at 100%) The only thing making a barret or m79 user vulnerable is their imperfect aiming. Missing with a barret or an m79 can be very devastating. However an experienced soldat player could use his barret or m79 and get direct shots 9/10 times. Which obviously, is really frustrating to his victims.


I also want people to realize that Soldats way of being played is already established. Soldat veterans already are too used to how the game is played, and isnt going to be shifted to meet the needs of new players who want soldat to be more like the games theyre used to playing.


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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2006, 04:31:04 am »
I don't think the M72 LAW is overpowered nor unfair, it's fine as it is because most people chuck it away once they finished launching the missile.

You also do realise the LAW is hard to aim because of it's start-up time. You need to time it perfectly.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2006, 05:23:49 am by The Rogue »
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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 05:10:28 am »
....what?











Nah im kidding. I dont agree with a few of your views, such as the 'only use one weapon' thing, because its like saying...well, ill leave that to someone else to say. But you seem to have thought this over alot.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 03:00:20 pm »
I actually only think M79 is overpowered.

It kills easy, quickly, surely, if you miss it still damages, it's reload time is much quicker than barret's... And that's just only some facts.


It's easy to solve it, though. Increase reload time by .5 seconds, increase it's splash damage, and increase by alot its self damage.

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Re: Something to think about
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 03:15:59 pm »

You also do realise the LAW is hard to aim because of it's start-up time. You need to time it perfectly.

yes but if you read carefully the Theory isn't made by me....but i do agree with  things you say