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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #180 on: July 13, 2007, 06:13:07 am »
What you say is 100% wrong.

Crazy Mike, sorry, I dont understand what you are saying. Please dont use those stupid online translators...
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #181 on: July 13, 2007, 06:35:55 am »
This anti hack program is so premitive....its only a few dll's that connect to some kind of server if someone realy want to hack he just change it to hes own battleye server and thats all bye bye anti cheat its time for hackers to rule the game......................
Do we want this ??? NO WE DONT NEED HACKERS IN OUR GAME
i suggest is to use more than 1 anti hack program
1, he'll probably have sucky pings. 2, why would anyone do that anyway? 3, no one would join it if they found out it was full of hackers, now, would they? They'd just be hacking against each other, and no one cares about that now. Lol.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #182 on: July 13, 2007, 08:47:37 am »
I guess you are kicked for "possible cheating"? Thats not caused by BattlEye but by the Soldat server.

As I said numerous times, if you dont read that BattlEye kicked you its not caused by BE - its really that simple. ;)

Date Posted: 13-07-2007, 15:11:54
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #183 on: July 13, 2007, 09:16:03 am »
This anti hack program is so premitive....its only a few dll's that connect to some kind of server if someone realy want to hack he just change it to hes own battleye server and thats all bye bye anti cheat its time for hackers to rule the game......................
Do we want this ??? NO WE DONT NEED HACKERS IN OUR GAME
i suggest is to use more than 1 anti hack program
1, he'll probably have sucky pings. 2, why would anyone do that anyway? 3, no one would join it if they found out it was full of hackers, now, would they? They'd just be hacking against each other, and no one cares about that now. Lol.
sry about this x2 quote spam but this is serios we all are lucky that no one cares about that...but there are some nubs that try to hack soldat but just cannot soldat.exe is highly protected(tested by my self) well not that highly but it keep idiots from hakcing second if someone realy understand the battleeye engine and hack it than we all in a hax00rs ownage :P
Soldat can be cool...
Soldat can be suck...
but it i always play my Soldat :)

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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #184 on: July 13, 2007, 09:20:13 am »
Well, obviously you dont understand how it works then according to your post above.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #185 on: July 13, 2007, 09:56:07 am »
The moment someone finds a way around BattlEye, the BE developers snatch it up and release an update to cover it. Done.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #186 on: July 13, 2007, 10:44:46 am »
The moment someone finds a way around BattlEye, the BE developers snatch it up and release an update to cover it. Done.
How do developers know how hackers got around BE?

Months ago I did some talking with some known hackers, and BE was one of our favourite topics. I was told that he was able to get past BE just with regular cheats used in Soldat, when he tried them with Tremulous. So basically if BE works/worked like it does in Tremulous, the way he creates hacks should not be noticed by BE at all.

Soldat has auto-update thing. Make it to send new excecutable when wanted to get rid of cheats.

Hackers don't create those hacks to own people, or that they are not good. They do that for fun. There are some competition between them, I believe. Everyone tries to make the perfect and most succesful hack, but few accomplish that. Reminds me from demoscene. People jsut want to show their skills.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #187 on: July 13, 2007, 11:58:35 am »
I guess you mean Warsow instead of Tremulous.

Anyway, as I wrote somewhere already (I think), BE for Warsow was no longer supported for months even though it was still there in the newest Warsow version. So it did not do anything, it was just dead.
If I remember correctly, it was last working somewhen in September 2006 and then removed in May 2007 (with the 0.3 release).
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #188 on: July 13, 2007, 02:00:57 pm »
Ah, eay. I always mix those games. Thats what he was talking about.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #189 on: July 13, 2007, 08:33:48 pm »
Because someone sends the hack to BE if it gets released to the public.

As for Warsow, that game crashed my computer. I don't think I'll be playing it again.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #190 on: July 14, 2007, 01:30:33 am »
Because someone sends the hack to BE if it gets released to the public.

As for Warsow, that game crashed my computer. I don't think I'll be playing it again.

You reply to my post?

There ae alot of hacks spreading underground, but not many of them are released to public. Even fewer number of hacks become public now after BE.

Let me repeat, they do not make the hacks to ruin the game, or to be better players. They make them to show their skills, have fun andn a little competition with other fellow hackers around there. Some of the hacks leak to public, some of the hacks are released to public, but those hacks are now disabled quite easily and fast.

Moreover, hacking becomes even more "underground" stuff than what it was in pre-1.4 era. Hacking is not going to be reduced, but it's amount in public servers is going to be reduced, and controlled more, which I think is awesome.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #191 on: July 14, 2007, 03:37:19 am »
Don't worry, we can get their "underground" cheats.

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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #192 on: July 14, 2007, 04:16:08 am »
Don't worry, we can get their "underground" cheats.
Obviously, as being part of it. :P
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #193 on: July 18, 2007, 12:31:34 am »
The result is going to be about the same as VAC. Hopefully, it won't be as hacked filled as in previous version.

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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #194 on: July 18, 2007, 02:03:43 pm »
Does that mean soldat needs us to go and search for hacks?
(so that we can report them XP)
- I already found one (but not cuz i was looking for them) and, of course, reported it...
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #195 on: July 18, 2007, 03:39:32 pm »
Its never bad to report hacks, especially if you find private ones. However I find most hacks on my own.

Anyway, BE is not like VAC at all. VAC only detects publicly released hacks and not even all of them - it is hardly updated (or very slowly).
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #196 on: July 18, 2007, 11:56:58 pm »
This mean then that everytime that this message appears one or more cheats are detected and make them obsolete ???




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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #197 on: July 19, 2007, 12:51:11 am »
Not necessarily.
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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #198 on: July 20, 2007, 06:42:20 pm »
For some time I came across the problem with BattlEye.(patch I installed, everything so far was well)


How this inscription will appear which I marked red after some 2 minutes the server is dropping me off, I don't know what is being played.

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Re: New anti-cheat for Soldat
« Reply #199 on: July 20, 2007, 07:43:13 pm »
Are you on Win98?

If so, wait for the above pink BE error message, disconnect from the server and rename the BEClient_x86.dll.new file in your BattlEye folder to BEClient_x86.dll (remove the old one before).

Next time please first use the search function, this has already been discussed before.
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