Author Topic: For the love of g4m3rs : improve the vote system (Read 3340 times)

Tribersman-FR · « **on:** February 07, 2007, 03:59:31 pm »

Spell correction

I'm quite sorry for the lengthy title, but I'm enraged!

It's impossible to kick any hacker for their crimes because it's possible that they could win in less time than the vote kick to take effect!

On top of all that, I don't know how many votes are necessary to vote a cheater out of the server, but if you were hoping 100% right vote.

We don't have any idea how many people voted yes or no, so we can't know if we even have a chance of kicking him or not!

You should adjust the time between votes because it's hard for normal player to kick a hacker who win every 2minute.

So I ask you, for the love of everything, JUST MAKE A USEFUL VOTING SYSTEM!

1010011010 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:05:17 pm »

Translations by Google;

Sorry for the big title but I m under the fury of my rage !

I'm quite sorry for the lengthy title, but I'm enraged!

It's IMPOSSIBLE to kick any haxxor for the only one reason that they could win in less time the kick vote take effect !

It's impossible to kick any hacker for their crimes because it's possible that they could win in less time than the vote kick to take effect!

Top of that I don't know how many vote are necessary to vote a cheater but if you were hoping the 100% IT'S STUPID !

On top of all that, I don't know how many votes are necessary to vote a cheater out of the server, but if you were hoping that it's less than 100%, you're not going to enjoy it. It's stupid!

We don't even have any idea how many guy vote yes or no (like the "Starsiege Tribes" system).
We can"t know if we have a chance to get him kick or not !

We don't have any idea how many people voted yes or no, so we can't know if we even have a chance of kicking him or not!

The false vote aren't SO popular that you can think ! you can put the wait time betwen vote from 2 to 1 minute.

The false votes are so popular that you can't even make another vote! You should be able to adjust the time between votes.

So I ask you for the love of everything you want : JUST MAKE A USEFULL VOTE SYSTEM !

So I ask you, for the love of everything, JUST MAKE A USEFUL VOTING SYSTEM!

Tribersman-FR · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:06:50 pm »

Sorry ... I'm french and I don't really trust google translation ... even if I'm not myself really good.

1010011010 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:08:00 pm »

It's okay. I like doing things like this, and I didn't really use google. I just put that there to be witty. I'm witty.

On topic;

I do think the vote time and percentage should be adjustable.

Lord Frunkamunch · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:12:15 pm »

I'm not sure about the time, but the admin can adjust the % needed to kick a hacker using a / command, I'm just not sure what the command is. It's somewhere on soldat.pl...

Tribersman-FR · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:14:14 pm »

I just correct my message, and also correct the missunderstand of google translation.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:19:34 pm »

Please do not post thread titles in all caps.

EnEsCe · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2007, 08:08:38 pm »

If you had been around with the vote sytem we had prior to the current F12/F11 thing, you wouldn't be such an ungrateful swine.

How many votes are required for it to pass is completely up to the server admin, its not one-size-fits-all, most servers have it as something around 75%, or 100% in many cases to stop map voting. Oh well.

Tribersman-FR · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2007, 12:49:59 pm »

There is just to put different options for each vote : Kick and Map

If the Admin really want to have 100% of vote for a map change : DO IT !
But for a kick vote 100% is impossible, the hacker won't vote to kick himself.

Sytrus · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2007, 02:56:38 pm »

Well, I think the main problem why hackers can often not be kicked is a hack called "Anti-Kick", wich just doesnt allow the using retard to be kicked.

Zamorak · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:19:19 pm »

First of all, if they really are winniner too fast for anyone to vote them then, thanks to EnEsCe's anti-hack measures, the hacker should be kicked for scoring flags too fast.

Second, I don't think it's necessary to fix something that isn't broken. The only thing that you are suggesting could be broken is the players voting him out, not the voting system.

EnEsCe · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2007, 08:03:22 pm »

Quote from: Sytrus on February 08, 2007, 02:56:38 pm

Well, I think the main problem why hackers can often not be kicked is a hack called "Anti-Kick", wich just doesnt allow the using retard to be kicked.

There is no such thing, its server side.

Clawbug · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2007, 08:48:59 pm »

Quote from: Zamorak on February 08, 2007, 04:19:19 pm

First of all, if they really are winniner too fast for anyone to vote them then, thanks to EnEsCe's anti-hack measures, the hacker should be kicked for scoring flags too fast.

Second, I don't think it's necessary to fix something that isn't broken. The only thing that you are suggesting could be broken is the players voting him out, not the voting system.

There is a "bug" in the voting system. If someone does not vote his/her vote will be as long "No" as he/she presses F12.

Zamorak · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2007, 09:32:38 pm »

Quote from: Clawbug on February 08, 2007, 08:48:59 pm

Quote from: Zamorak on February 08, 2007, 04:19:19 pm
First of all, if they really are winniner too fast for anyone to vote them then, thanks to EnEsCe's anti-hack measures, the hacker should be kicked for scoring flags too fast.

Second, I don't think it's necessary to fix something that isn't broken. The only thing that you are suggesting could be broken is the players voting him out, not the voting system.

There is a "bug" in the voting system. If someone does not vote his/her vote will be as long "No" as he/she presses F12.

Then it's probably no worry since it's probably fixed in that new server version that just came out or will be fixed in an upcoming one.

zyxstand · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2007, 12:08:51 am »

My only problem is getting vote-kicked off for the dumbets reasons - especially when I'm accused of hacking (esp. in rambo match) while I'm really not :/
There's just not much you can do about that... Whatever - I guess I'm gonna have to deal with that.

Off-topic:
What happend to the regular ctf servers? I can't seem to find any good ones

MofoNofo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2007, 12:55:48 am »

Hackers don't anti-kick- they just have a hack (or they do it themselves) that votes other people so that their vote doesn't show up half the time.

Raithah · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2007, 01:00:00 am »

Quote from: MofoNofo on February 10, 2007, 12:55:48 am

Hackers don't anti-kick- they just have a hack (or they do it themselves) that votes other people so that their vote doesn't show up half the time.

For myself the actual 'anti-kick' is the team the hacker is playing on. They never vote 'friendly' hackers off ... ungrateful poops.

The Red Guy · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2007, 01:19:07 am »

Quote from: Raithah on February 10, 2007, 01:00:00 am

Quote from: MofoNofo on February 10, 2007, 12:55:48 am
Hackers don't anti-kick- they just have a hack (or they do it themselves) that votes other people so that their vote doesn't show up half the time.

For myself the actual 'anti-kick' is the team the hacker is playing on. They never vote 'friendly' hackers off ... ungrateful poops.

Heh

very true my friend.

Tribersman-FR · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2007, 01:12:54 pm »

Quote from: MofoNofo on February 10, 2007, 12:55:48 am

Hackers don't anti-kick- they just have a hack (or they do it themselves) that votes other people so that their vote doesn't show up half the time.

In my case the hacker don't launch another vote to hide the last one ...

If the bug isn't solve it must be like clawbug say : The vote never finish if someone don't vote.

Sytrus · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2007, 03:58:51 pm »

I always vote F12 on friendly hackers. They're just poor and ridicolous.

Mr.Morose · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2007, 06:23:26 pm »

I think the vote system is sometimes too easy instead of too hard, also. Don't you guys? I get kicked for being a perfectly good person who didn't even do anything (i.e. I got kicked once because I asked the players to stop exchanging racial slurs and I was kicked for "being a racist." I mean, what?!) I think we really need a better kicking system that handles BOTH sides of the specturm.

Pyroguy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2007, 02:46:02 pm »

Smart hackers have a way of getting around the ban system, and this is very infuriating; I know what it is but I refuse to educate the dumb hackers that browse these forums.

The vote system is fine, you can get a vote thorugh, and really, an admin should always have SOMEONE watching his server.

Zegovia · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2007, 04:10:56 pm »

A new anti-cheat program will be on the loose in the next version... so they will have a hard time messing with the game then...

Tribersman-FR · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2007, 09:05:46 am »

Hope you are truth ^^

"Hax ultimate spownage" is nothing more than "l4m3 k1ll from 4 n0-l1fe guy"

KingOfPing · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2007, 09:50:31 pm »

why are we even arguing? A hacker can just exit game before any can vote and join game on dif team

Tribersman-FR · « **Reply #25 on:** February 19, 2007, 12:59:55 pm »

because even that is a little boring for Hacker ...

But "knowing that no body can ban you because the vote systeme is stupid"

it's a true joke for hackers !!

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Author Topic: For the love of g4m3rs : improve the vote system (Read 3340 times)