Author Topic: Some ideas for a game ??? (Read 3146 times)

Will · « **on:** February 09, 2007, 01:54:05 pm »

Well I haven't played soldat in a while now and I got interested in creating my own game. So i started searching for some game making software or a programming language that I could learn. Anyway a friend of mine told me that he knows how to script in rpg maker xp so I gave it a shot. I liked it as soon as i saw it and being used to modding soldat and finding ways to simulate some stuff with the weapons.ini I already got some ideas on making some new features and the like. I already have a basis for the story:

- a kind of post apocalyptic world
- global warming , pollution and stuff like that
- somekind of a mutant/beast race ( like in Savage)
- humans rebuilding their society (kind of a between FFX and Mad Max)

I already decided not to put some classic magiks and such but I have an innovative skill concept [TOP SECRET]. The problem is, I don't know which weapons could the characters use. They could be crossbows, bows, somekind of makeshift weapons or salvaged weapons(or parts of them) from ruins etc.
I wouldn't go for the plasma and laserz and such because.... well because I don't wanna

. I also don't know how could I make the meele weapons stand up to ranged weapons, if you know what I mean. I don't wan't this to be some FF kind of game where a meele character could defeat a guy with a pumped up shotgun.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not some n00b that thinks he can make a game in two days, I know it's hard work but I just need some ideas because the weapons and such are a crucial thing to making the story and the whole game.

So go ahead FLAME ME, PRAISE ME, whatever I don't care

In short: So basicaly I'm asking for some ideas for the weapons

Rhombus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2007, 02:41:28 pm »

check out the real world: melee weapons are all around you, easily obtainable... hell I could beat the shit out of someone with a telephone. Thing is... if someone invests some money in a gun (and bullets) I'm done for. Maybe you could make melee weapons, though they would be a bit useless? Like in soldat... nobody uses the knife as a melee weapon. Everyone throws it. Guns are overpowered IRL, maybe you should do that in-game too? Though... there needs to be a balance... enemies should also have guns... nobody would run at you with a lead pipe if you're pointing a gun at them.

The Philanthropist · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2007, 02:50:00 pm »

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script in rpg maker xp

Yeah... Not a good Idea... Learn something cool like Java or C++. You might want to start with a less intensive language though, like Visual Basic. RPG maker scripting is extremely limited and confined... Do not use it if you are 100% serious hard core about this. And programming isn't just hard work, it's ridiculously time consuming. I made a program in class today that calculates the area of a square by multiplying two numbers, and it involved like a page and a half of code.

As for the game itself, you could have like a combination system where you pick up different scraps and put them together to form different weapons, like a recipe system.

homey188 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2007, 03:28:01 pm »

Yeah rpgmaker stuff isn't good, unless you're insanely awesome at it.

as for ideas: spears are easy to make, and can be thrown. Swords and such would probably be mostly not much help, but there is probably a way to get a current running through it.
A combine system is a good idea, pvc piping, ducktape, batteries, and stuff would be easy to find in most ruined cities, and probably could be used for makeshift weapons.

Edit: Oh, and, Philantropist, isn't a page of code a bit much when it could be done in like six lines in python?

Will · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2007, 03:57:26 pm »

Well... I could go with a weapon forging system. But for the spears, well it's kinda dumb to go and take on someone who has a gun with a spear. Hell he'd prolly shoot you before you could get in range to throw the spear. ( even if you throw the spear he could still shoot you

)

So another question: What could I do to make the weapons different?
Like with an smg I could make it so it attacks a target multiple times
But what could I do with the shotgun? I can't just make it so it attacks all enemies.
And if I make rifle type weapons, what could differentiate them from others.

My conclusion is that there shouldn't be any meele weapons(tho I could throw in a throwing knife as a skill or an item that would cause instant death)
I also thought about crossbows. Since they aren't so fast firing as other guns they could have some specialm skills like poison arrow and such.

iPod · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2007, 05:00:58 pm »

If you want to take the middle ground between RPG maker's simplicity and a real language like c++ you could try learning Byond's DM language. (www.developer.byond.com/) If you avoid using rips and use the DM guide, the language is simple enough to learn and you can make some pretty decent (2d) games that will be much more powerful in the end than rpg maker ever could be. (Oh, and easily networkable, if you want to look into a multiplayer option)

Dascoo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2007, 05:08:07 pm »

For guns....Put common weaponry, that you'll probably find anywhere like the AK-47 (or copies) for an assault rifle, and a Glock 17 for a pistol....or M1911 because it's so much awesomer?

Meelee weapons should just be anything. Chainsaws, pipes, wrenches, knives......

Will · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2007, 06:16:33 pm »

Would you use a wrench for combat?
I wouldn't...

I was thinking about making every character have a diff ranged weapon, and as a secondary he could have a meele weapon. I have to look into this and make some scripts so it could work properly tho.

Well iPod I'll take a look at that byond thingy. Looks promising...
gtg to sleep for a couple of hrs

Dascoo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2007, 06:51:29 pm »

Well you said makeshift....you could use a big wrench as a weapon, better then your fists anyways.

ThunderPantz · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2007, 07:48:29 pm »

Bricks, need a launcher gun. OR some surgical tubing, a funnel, and 2 very strong pieces of wood or metal.

Raithah · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2007, 01:22:44 am »

Who disturbs my slumber with pirated software ? RPG Maker is not a game people buy, instead try something open source like RPG Toolkit, a much more legaly friendly edition of a game maker

.

On a related note, don't use game maker.

Ontopic, go outside, spin around and the first thing you point at will become a new weapon. Doesn't matter if it's a rock, a piece of sheet metal, a hypodermic needle or a poodle. You'll find some way to beat/club someone/thing to death with it

.

Will · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2007, 06:59:15 am »

Well I tried with rpg toolkit but it's confusing. Thats why I thought about RPG maker.
I thought that Byond thing would be good, but I kinda don't liek the fact that you have to have it insztalled and create an account so you can play games made with it. That really bugs me.

Does anyone know of a good tutorial for RPG toolkit beginners? I already tried searching for it but I didn't find anything.

OnTopic: I was thinking of makeshift weapons like in notrium just like more nowadays, without the fancy ion guns and such. The reat example would be the HL2 Crossbow. stuff like that ya know...

Krillious · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:11:38 am »

i thought games made with rpgmaker, still need that you have rpgmaker installed
and if you want to make a serious game don't use any of these programs, either learn a programming language, or else try game maker, since with that you can actually make a game which looks professional

Will · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:41:26 am »

Whzy do you people always have to be so negative about game making software. I have some ideas and I can write a good story and such but I have no time to learn c++ or something.
now I know somebody will say "Don't try making the game if you don't have time" but I wan't to make it and I'm searching for a quickest way to learn how to make it. I don't wan't the game to be finished in two days, but I want to learn how to make it quickly. Also I want an RPG since there are all sorts of other games around but RPG's have that something.

Anyways Game Maker sucks. So if anyone knows something about RPG toolkit or RPG maker please contact me (msn duh....)

Krillious · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:43:36 am »

well if you want to make a game that people will actually play you need to learn a programming language not some shit program k
otherwise ur wasting ur time k bye

Will · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:02:45 am »

Well... why do you have to be so mean. Did I insult you for asking some help. I bet many other people also wan't to make a game of somesorts but they get discouraged by people like you.
Making a game with a program can help you get acustomed to programming languages and can help you learn them. Then you can move onto something more serious and finally make a game that would be better than soldat is

.

Why do you have to be such a cunt eh?
Just don't think of me as some dumb guy thats knows nothing. I completely understand what programming is but I don't know how to do it. I'll eventually learn, I hope, but I just want to start with something easier and try to see what will I have to imrove on in the future

Krillious · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:15:19 am »

cos u seem to be stubborn to use rpg maker lol
im just saying that u can make a game with rpg maker but probably no one will play it, its better to spend the time learning a programming language then wasting it trying to make a game which no one will play

Slayer DZ · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:34:08 am »

Oh, I will play it and I'll show it to my cousin too, he will tell to his friend and then they will also play it. My cousin's friend has a friend and when he says to him he we'll also play it. So, there will always be someone who'll play it.

Will · « **Reply #18 on:** February 10, 2007, 12:33:44 pm »

So no more replies?
Well I'll go with the rpg maker and some fabulous scripts I have found
(like a side view battle system, weapon skills and stuff)

Do ya guys have anymore ideas? Like character clases and what kind of weapons and skills they would have (think logically, don't start with a Brutal attack or something, be real

)

Krillious · « **Reply #19 on:** February 10, 2007, 12:38:28 pm »

enjoy ur time wasting

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