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[digitaltsai]

Do not nerf spas. The few number of people playing with spases as their primary already shows that it isn't a favorite (easy to kill with) gun. Especially now that the ruger is going to do a more damage and kill in 2 hits, spas users will probably be useless against them. Spas was kind of nerfed for 1.3.0, and stayed nerfed. Before that version, spas was actually pretty useful for medium range, but now that is no more. The spas now pushes you backwards a lot more, so the opponent can just back up and keep shooting at you and push you backwards with his bullets as well.

[MofoNofo]

as a matter of fact, a weapon is really only called overpowered if alot of people use it.

spas will never be overpowered.

[cr4sh]

After playing a gather with the mod I thought the Spas and the Ruger were great.  The Ruger had that little extra kick which made me more confident using the gun.  The Spas was like I've never seen it and was a blast to use with the still potent Socom.  I'll try another gather and try out some autos, but nice job with the semis so far.

[[S][K]Echo]

as a matter of fact, a weapon is really only called overpowered if alot of people use it.

spas will never be overpowered.

When a lot of people use a gun it means it is popular, not overpowered. Barrett has always been popular, and it got overpowered since 1.2.1. Spas is strong now, and it will get overpowered with the new Weap balance. More damage, more range and possibly more knockback. Oh and the reload is tricky, you can shoot pretty much without downtime.

[5th_account]

Ah yes the 1/137th speed increase will completely change the gun's physics and behaviour! =)

Overpowerededness is a relative word. When deagles had 220 damage, 22 fireinterval and 90 reload; and spas 130 damage and 140 speed back in 1.1.5 they were very well balanced.

[psyl3ntshad0w]

1 or 2 bullet barret with maybe half the reload it has now and maybe a bit more bink.

[MofoNofo]

- Or a berserk Ruger!

[Ouchek]

I think 1.2.1 was the most balanced, because you could kick ass with __ANY__ weapon, the game was fast-paced, and great to play!! Since then, the game kept getting more boring everytime there was a new version, and slow as fuck... but eh I know when I'm saying that I'll be called a whiner by some other whiners (like this dumby 5thaccount), but I had to say it anyway!
Besides Barett was overpowered before 1.2.1 than now...

[MofoNofo]

God.. The only differences between 1.2 and 1.2.1 was the +1 ak damage and bink, and look how many players stopped using it! It was still used alot, but who cares? If they missed they got slaughtered in a second!

Look what happened to Soldat in only a couple of versions- 1.1.4 - 1.2.1 had barely any differences in weapon power, yet in 1.3 it was decided that nearly all the weapons would be weakened- especially my beautiful deagles
/endrant

[Chakra]

I can't help but doubt your knowledge towards the history of Soldat, Mofonofo ... there was some -huge- differences in balance through 1.1.4 to 1.2.1

[mar77a]

Like the delay on the LAW and fixing the mid air prone shoot also. That sure made it less popular.

[Ouchek]

There was no delay on the LAW in 1.2.1.

[MofoNofo]

Chakra, I only meant the bare primary weapon stats- I know other factors went into the changing of the balance (bink, barrett bullet that went straighter etc) but most of the weapons kept thier same stats, yet in 1.3, so much was changed. Nearly everything was weakened, since then Soldat (for me) hasn't been as fun.

Although you may be right, and I've just forgotten about how it used to be.

SUUUPERMAN LAAAAWW!!

[Chakra]

Yeah ...the primaries changed significantly man. Major damage increases and what not. That and there was a different fragglewop netcode that practically changed how you aim, he fixed the whole change in weapons accuracy going down-left-up-right,  other explosives set off others, introduced player speed as a variable to damage, the damage differences dependent on where you hit the body, bulllets piercing bodies, the sniper line, etc..

[The Owls]

If the new balance is going to be anything like it is, semi's are going to be the new most used weapons.  The balance that was in sna gather today was ridiculas.  The shoty is way to overpowered, blasting out some serious damage even at medium-long range.  Hell, you can almost spray with it now. 

And the ruger has turned into almost a 2 shot everytime with a shorter reload.  A good gun doesn't need a boost.  If your going to up the damage on it, don't make the reload shorter, if anything longer.

[JudgeMan]

I think 1.2.1 was the most balanced, because you could kick ass with __ANY__ weapon, the game was fast-paced, and great to play!! Since then, the game kept getting more boring everytime there was a new version, and slow as ****... but eh I know when I'm saying that I'll be called a whiner by some other whiners (like this dumby 5thaccount), but I had to say it anyway!
Besides Barett was overpowered before 1.2.1 than now...

I so agree with you.

[Chakra]

Yeah, I thought shotgun was overpowered. So I kept comparing it in similar situations from 1.3.1 to the beta..... really no difference. The new shotgun has a rate of fire literally 1/16th faster and has no changes in damage. Give it a few more tries.

[Ziem]

Yeah, I thought shotgun was overpowered. So I kept comparing it in similar situations from 1.3.1 to the beta..... really no difference. The new shotgun has a rate of fire literally 1/16th faster and has no changes in damage. Give it a few more tries.

Look at some pubs with no m79 ... many ppl use spas here < cos its VERY useful weapon >
I don't say it's overpowered, but its `almost' .

EDIT:
Almost makes difference xD

[Clawbug]

Yeah, I thought shotgun was overpowered. So I kept comparing it in similar situations from 1.3.1 to the beta..... really no difference. The new shotgun has a rate of fire literally 1/16th faster and has no changes in damage. Give it a few more tries.

Look at some pubs with no m79 ... many ppl use spas here < cos its VERY useful weapon >
I don't say it's overpowered, but its `almost' .

EDIT:
Almost makes difference xD

It is powerful in close combat, if handled well. Not so many use it, because usually enemies start falling back when they see spas, to keep distance. In public noobs dont know it and they rush at the spasser, 2 shots and a kill.

[sakae]

Barret shouldn't be one hit kill in the feet.

ehm the barrett should be abel to shot trough the wall. and god dammit stop whining about it. just bink him and you will be fine. and dont run straight forward in the same speed and not turning off anywhere.

sigh clans now days, they are so noobish..