Author Topic: Why 20kb?  (Read 6323 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 0xSilentx0

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 20
    • My PhotoBucket
Why 20kb?
« on: June 25, 2006, 01:13:00 am »
I mean seriously...People cant release their true sig designing skills when the yonly have 20kb of working space...I know theres like bandwidth or whatever and I dotn know anything about it so it must be hard, but is it possible to get atleast a little more in?

OH YEAH AND SIG REQUESTS(For other forums :P;D



Layout:

Name:
Style:See beloww
Render:(find one on gamerenders.com please)

Style Examples:

Anime Splatter


Smudge Industrial:


Sharp Smudge:


Those are the simple styles...If you want something else go to my photobucket
http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/iG33k/Tagnatures/

And find a style and include it in your request layout
Image removed. Please read the forum rules.
Click here to see my sigs!

Offline FliesLikeABrick

  • Administrator
  • Flamebow Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 6144
    • Ultimate 13 Soldat
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2006, 01:20:21 am »
its 20KB because you shouldn't need more if you know anything about compression and how to save your file right.

big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month

Offline 0xSilentx0

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 20
    • My PhotoBucket
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 01:24:03 am »
If you compress most images, they end up with crappy quality...
Image removed. Please read the forum rules.
Click here to see my sigs!

Offline The Bone Collector

  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 1126
  • I'm so sexy.
    • Daniel Rutter Films
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 01:27:59 am »
big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month
Yup, stupid Australian ISPs are bastards..we get crap limits ova here!
Just another soul to burn.

Offline 0xSilentx0

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 20
    • My PhotoBucket
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 01:29:01 am »
Well it was worth asking =/...
Image removed. Please read the forum rules.
Click here to see my sigs!

Offline FliesLikeABrick

  • Administrator
  • Flamebow Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 6144
    • Ultimate 13 Soldat
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 01:29:15 am »
If you compress most images, they end up with crappy quality...

not if you do it right and with a decent program that can optimize the image without losing data

Offline 0xSilentx0

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 20
    • My PhotoBucket
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 01:29:50 am »
Really?..Can you suggest one?...A program like that could be of great use to me
Image removed. Please read the forum rules.
Click here to see my sigs!

Offline FliesLikeABrick

  • Administrator
  • Flamebow Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 6144
    • Ultimate 13 Soldat
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2006, 01:31:40 am »
gimp, photoshop....

Offline mar77a

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 1295
  • mad
    • random stuffs
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2006, 01:32:15 am »
its 20KB because you shouldn't need more if you know anything about compression and how to save your file right.

big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month

you forgot south america

Offline 0xSilentx0

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 20
    • My PhotoBucket
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2006, 01:37:05 am »
hmph...Photoshop makes the quality suck, It's what I use to make the sigs -_-;;
Image removed. Please read the forum rules.
Click here to see my sigs!

Offline Chakra

  • Inactive Staff
  • Flagrunner
  • *****
  • Posts: 937
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2006, 01:45:25 am »
big signitures are kept to a limit because we're here to ....like...talk about stuff. On a forum. Not show off trend-whoring useless meaningless pointless shitty crappy space-taking hardcore pussy nigger bollocks when i'm trying to read what you twisted lifeless boring people who waste time in paintshop loving up the wind-blur tool yet somehow knowing feck all about built in compression techniques are posting on my bloody forums!

asdofjaslkdjaslkjalkjf;kjf;alskj;ffnnnaarrgrrggrghghgrhrghgrhhnknknkk

MM; seriously Chakra, stop the fisting
Yes, I'm still alive.

Offline 0xSilentx0

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 20
    • My PhotoBucket
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2006, 01:55:12 am »
Yes I needed that...Although I see your view in this situation, IT TAKES MORE SKILL MAKING SIGS THAN COMPRESSING THEM..

........jackass


Image removed. Please read the forum rules.
Click here to see my sigs!

Offline m00`

  • Soldier
  • **
  • Posts: 169
  • hai guys
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2006, 01:58:03 am »
hey cool I just made a 69kb image into a 24 kb image and it looks EXACTLY the same

new one:


old one:

cool

Offline The Red Guy

  • Flagrunner
  • ****
  • Posts: 751
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2006, 02:01:22 am »
I just compress the image into a png file, always works for me.

Offline Keron Cyst

  • Global Moderator
  • Rainbow Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 2872
  • will waypoint for food
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2006, 02:35:22 am »
...

If you just want to compress something, just use IrfanView.

Offline T-Bone

  • Flagrunner
  • ****
  • Posts: 895
  • Harmonicas Suck
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2006, 02:40:10 am »
nigger

Quote
Be considerate! Use common sense!

Generally, avoid the following and you'll be peachy-keen:
over-abundant swearing
directed abuse
spam
consecutive disregard for forum rules
saying harmonica's suck
RACISM <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
kaballaism
anything that ends in 'ism.
Punishment will be acted out by the moderators and admins of this forum. Failing that, we'll send Boris, believed to be the reincarnated embodiment of DNA Styx, the first Forums Admin.

Watch out for Boris....He's coming.............
« Last Edit: June 25, 2006, 02:41:43 am by T-Bone »
Your acting like your having a duel and your opponent gets a pistol and you get a spork.
Isn't that pretty much what it is? I dunno wtf a spork is, I suppose it's way weaker than the pistol since you compared that to this.

Offline chrono

  • Soldier
  • **
  • Posts: 235
  • Elite CTF
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2006, 02:41:18 am »
big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month

So true rofl... but WHY DO U CARE? I mean, WHY NOT 20KB??they couldv made it 10 Kb
I decided to remove my signature, since jrgp was picking on me by sending me annoying PM's. - Chrono, Wednesday July 27, 2007



Offline frogboy

  • Soldier
  • **
  • Posts: 107
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2006, 04:19:17 am »
hey cool I just made a 69kb image into a 24 kb image and it looks EXACTLY the same
Yeah, but .gif is so not trendy.
big sigs aren't fair to people with crappy australian internet connections that limit them to 10gb/month
Luckily their meters fuck up and end up giving you 20GB+ in a month. Besides, don't forget the 56kers.

Offline Mr. Domino

  • Flagrunner
  • ****
  • Posts: 969
  • Don't just sit there and waste your precious time.
    • XBLIG.co
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2006, 04:27:22 am »
hey cool I just made a 69kb image into a 24 kb image and it looks EXACTLY the same

new one:


old one:



Only four more kilobytes to go!  :)

I love Paint Shop Pro 7 and Animation Shop 3. I'm no uber graphics artists, but I can do what I want with those.

Offline The Bone Collector

  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 1126
  • I'm so sexy.
    • Daniel Rutter Films
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2006, 04:59:33 am »
how in the hell do I seem to compress 109kb sigs (like the one below) into 18 nad 20 kb images, and not lose any quality what so ever?
Just another soul to burn.

Offline Atomic Hype

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 66
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2006, 05:47:38 am »
Just thought I would interject.

You can change it to not view sigs aye?

So anyone with a slow connection should (logically) have that specific box checked.

And therefore, an extra 5-10kb per image that aren't even being loaded, aren't going to have any affect on slow connections.


:E
War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength

Offline FliesLikeABrick

  • Administrator
  • Flamebow Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 6144
    • Ultimate 13 Soldat
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2006, 11:09:25 am »
yes, but we shouldn't have to require those people to turn it off.  Forums are meant for talking, not for huge signatures.  As we proved in this thread, 20KB is enough for even the most aesthetically pleasting signature image

edit: original: 69KB



new VV 8.59KB - and I could have done it a couple more times to increase the quality, but I don't think you see any significant difference between these two, if any.


edit2: all I did with the second one was open it in gimp, and save it again.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2006, 11:20:35 am by FliesLikeABrick »

Offline Lord Jaws

  • Major(1)
  • Posts: 30
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2006, 12:08:44 pm »
Depends how you save your file, and how you decrease the bytes of your sig.. My standart sigs are
25 kb to 72 kb, and I have not even cut their sizes down...  and gimp is easy to do, but its also possible in photoshop, You just need to do it right! Just that you CAN'T do it, it doen't mean it is not possible....
MY Realistic Soldat Clan.: Coalition Europe
Shame it died. . .

Offline Atomic Hype

  • Major
  • *
  • Posts: 66
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2006, 02:47:57 pm »
Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnee eeeeeeeeeeee


:F
War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength

Offline Mistercharles

  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 1371
  • +
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2006, 04:32:13 pm »
Mmm, photoshop .gif compression. If you have photoshop, and the sig doesn't revolve around gradients, use gif.
shoutout to m'boyz eagles_arrows, echo_trail, wraithlike, sadistatheart, chakapoko maker, jrgp, aznblood, chakra, keron cyst, et al, miss you, let's '#gather some day

Offline a-4-year-old

  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 1918
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2006, 08:19:40 pm »
how in the hell do I seem to compress 109kb sigs (like the one below) into 18 nad 20 kb images, and not lose any quality what so ever?
use a loophole like a link to the sig, thats pretty stupid but if you really have to then go ahead.
If we hit the bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate. -Zapp Brannigan

Offline FliesLikeABrick

  • Administrator
  • Flamebow Warrior
  • *****
  • Posts: 6144
    • Ultimate 13 Soldat
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2006, 08:22:01 pm »
if anyone believes a certain sig image can't be compressed to be under 20KB, give it to me and I'll show you  that it can be done ;) (I'm not saying I'm going to convert images for lazy people.  If that happens, the offer goes away)

Offline The Bone Collector

  • Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 1126
  • I'm so sexy.
    • Daniel Rutter Films
Re: Why 20kb?
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2006, 09:09:59 pm »
Quote
if anyone believes a certain sig image can't be compressed to be under 20KB, give it to me and I'll show you  that it can be done
I know it can be done, cause I do it all the time...Although I like the quality of my images to be high, so my images seem to hit 18kb and 20kb. I definately do not doubt that it can't be done.
Just another soul to burn.