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Offline Mr. Jenkins

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2006, 09:10:03 pm »
The point is, you can be taken surprise and suddenly killed by an m79. All other guns you'd have enough time to begin shooting and put up a fight (yes barret too, I won't go in to that). Of course, once you do a backflip and get into some dodging its easy but only in open space. And the majority of maps have indoor or just close quarters fighting.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2006, 10:15:10 pm »
So you think that you will be beaten by a m79 user in open air? This only happens if you aren't paying attention or are stupid, just try and dodge a shot in a tunnel like area.

Encountering an M79 user in a tunnel is easy since the M79er doesn't have room to dodge or stall from long range attacks. Out in the open, you have to deal with the increased range of the shot along with his having room to make you miss and close in if needed. It's far more difficult to avoid fire in a tunnel than it is out in the open, since your options are limited.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2006, 10:22:12 pm »
There are few tunnels so large as you speak of, it is extremely easy for them to run up and blast you. I highly doubt you would be able to kill him in most small spaces with him rushing and firing and killing you.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2006, 11:50:47 pm »
solution : play r/s servers  ;D r/s = realistic / survival if u didnt know :P
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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #44 on: July 05, 2006, 12:10:30 am »
the servers which have a major amount of M79 users are usally becuase there are a major amount of people in it that use M79's. just simply use this opportunity to practice with a weapon you are bad at if you know you'll be angered by alot of them killing you and you won't get close to winning.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2006, 06:03:07 am »
You people really don't have anything else to do, right?

Take a look at Leo's Realistic servers, the M79 is perfectly balanced in there. I never use it as a primary, but as a secondary.  You have no idea how deadly a Minimi + M79 can be. Besides, the M79 is the only weapon that requires full reload on start. Just increase range and reload time and you'll be fine. The reload time will prevent people from charging and blasting right away, thus lowering the effectiveness on start (meaning: less noob-users).
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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2006, 09:05:50 am »
I hate realistic. Sure the m79 is not cheap in realistic, but I hate dying all of a sudden and having to wait 5 minutes to respawn. Even without survival I don't like it. You die in a couple of shots of anything. It's like Call of Duty, except there is nothing to hide behind. The little obstacles here and there on maps don't work cause people can just fly over them all of a sudden. Realistic shooting does not work well in a 2d world.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2006, 10:10:07 am »
Play realistic so you dont have any problems on m79 ;).But anywho in Non-real its balanced like other gun.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2006, 03:18:12 pm »
Here, maybe this will help you.*



*Not to scale

What about the maps where there is no non m79 territory? Like ctf_snakebite. I was just playing there and literally everyone was using m79 (xcept for me, I was using spas). You just spawned and died. Spawned and died. Sure you can try to dodge but it's not that hard to hit with an m79 because the shot moves very fast.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2006, 03:46:57 pm »
Then you choose a weapon that is best suited to that enviroment. Adapt to the situation.
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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2006, 04:30:58 pm »
Did you actually read my post?

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2006, 05:31:06 pm »
In that situation...

Why are you even in that situation to begin with?  If the server sucks, just leave it and find a better one.  If that means playing a different game mode, then so be it--the extra variety will do you good.
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Offline Mr. Jenkins

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2006, 07:19:32 pm »
My point is, almost every map has close quarters/indoors fighting, and in that fighting you can't really dodge an m79 shot.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2006, 08:20:51 pm »
giggidy...
I dont have a prollem with m79 but thats cause I rarely play games with more than 4 people in them.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2006, 08:42:56 pm »
The m79 should still be in the game.  The only way to make it fair is to mkae the reload time slightly longer, adn give it more self damage.  That'll at least stop those noobs who run in tunnels, wait till you get close then m79 you point blank.  At range, the m79 is no problem.  Any gun, ('cept for barret maybe) can take out an m79 at range.  This is because a bullet moves faster then the m79 shot.  When you are far away, the m79er must make his shot ark higher to get you.  This gives you an advantage, because the m79 nade is moving up in a ark, it must slow down until it reaches the top of the ark.  This is your time to dodge, and head to higher ground.
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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2006, 09:00:53 pm »
Yes I completely agree with you Brock. Getting rid of it entirely would make us lose a gun, and we need more of those. There are plenty of ways to make it balanced (look at the fourth post on the second page). Outdoors the m79 is easy to defeat. But indoors it is like a berserker spas-12. MM just needs to tweak some stuff and Voila! a nicely balanced m79.

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2006, 11:47:27 pm »
Stop comaplaining and learn to play :P ..I think this is just a phase, like some time back when there were barretards on every server. It will pass. :)

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2006, 08:37:07 am »
But the game's perfectedness is not reached with an unbalanced weapon!

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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2006, 01:41:51 pm »
I agree. I don't say the weapon should be moved, I just reckon it should be more "self-bink", and more splash damage (like they kill themselves when they do the point blank range trick).

I also reckon that Socom counter-attacks them well xD turn 'em to mush, and watch their M79 bullet make sure they're dead...ahh I love that!
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Re: I have had enough
« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2006, 02:21:10 pm »
Splash damage I would agree with, and for that very reason. 

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