Author Topic: I have had enough (Read 22718 times)

DeMo · « **Reply #60 on:** July 07, 2006, 02:54:46 pm »

The M79 is not unbalanced, there are other guns (like the MP5) that need a lot more tweaking.
Increase reload time? Are u kidding? Have u seen how fast a MP5 reloads? THAT needs some increase.

Cato269 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 07, 2006, 04:42:24 pm »

i just went out with the m79 the other day, i became a lot better with it and found out it's very hard to judge my shots and reload times when i've got 5 autos going off in the same area

Mr. Jenkins · « **Reply #62 on:** July 07, 2006, 05:08:45 pm »

Mp5 is short ranged, run away from it. Unless you're using a spas.

Well of course you can't beat five autos with an m79.

Shadow G-Unit · « **Reply #63 on:** July 07, 2006, 05:20:33 pm »

Why does so many people hate the M79!? Lemme guess, it's too cheap! It takes skill to use!

5th_account · « **Reply #64 on:** July 07, 2006, 06:14:28 pm »

Indeed the M79 requires a hefty bit of skill. BUT - As I see it - in public games where the general levels of evasion, accuracy, experiance, positioning, multitasking and such crap ain't so high, and there's such a huge pack of players, one can find oneself without bullets, jets nor momentum at times and suddenly being blown up by an M79 from such a short range that even Major can point and click.

Cato269 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 07, 2006, 08:23:22 pm »

Quote from: 5th_account on July 07, 2006, 06:14:28 pm

Indeed the M79 requires a hefty bit of skill. BUT - As I see it - in public games where the general levels of evasion, accuracy, experiance, positioning, multitasking and such crap ain't so high, and there's such a huge pack of players, one can find oneself without bullets, jets nor momentum at times and suddenly being blown up by an M79 from such a short range that even Major can point and click.

very well put.

13579 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 08, 2006, 02:46:19 am »

This happened to me again today. 5 min. with the minigun and they started useing realguns.

XYZ · « **Reply #67 on:** July 08, 2006, 07:59:51 pm »

M79 is supposed to be a tactical weapon. It's supposed to take out guard towers and trenches in a single blow, which it does. Add a higher reload delay.

T-Bone · « **Reply #68 on:** July 08, 2006, 08:24:20 pm »

5th Account:
And notice how from such people come all the complaints of the m79 lol

Chunky · « **Reply #69 on:** July 11, 2006, 09:38:16 pm »

the m79........ IS SO BLOODY ANOYING!!! every1 time a die its usuallt cause ov an m79.... makes me so agro

Jessica · « **Reply #70 on:** July 11, 2006, 09:46:45 pm »

Quote from: XYZ on July 08, 2006, 07:59:51 pm

M79 is supposed to be a tactical weapon. It's supposed to take out guard towers and trenches in a single blow, which it does. Add a higher reload delay.

I agree with that. I understand that the M79 is suppose to blow the hell outa things, but I think it should take a lil longer to reload the weapon...

Cato269 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:24:06 pm »

Quote from: Jessica on July 11, 2006, 09:46:45 pm

Quote from: XYZ on July 08, 2006, 07:59:51 pm
M79 is supposed to be a tactical weapon. It's supposed to take out guard towers and trenches in a single blow, which it does. Add a higher reload delay.
I agree with that. I understand that the M79 is suppose to blow the hell outa things, but I think it should take a lil longer to reload the weapon...

Allthough i siad i;ve got nothing against the m79, it just ticks me off when you can't even pump out a round of deagle shots before they blow your head off!

Im with the reload increase!

jettlarue · « **Reply #72 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:33:02 pm »

lets make every gun have 30 bullets and all them same stats !!!.....this is why m79 topics piss me off. maybe 1/5 of second increase in reload and a 30% increase of selfbink.

Cato269 · « **Reply #73 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:41:40 am »

Quote from: jettlarue on July 11, 2006, 11:33:02 pm

lets make every gun have 30 bullets and all them same stats !!!.....this is why m79 topics piss me off. maybe 1/5 of second increase in reload and a 30% increase of selfbink.

what is selfbink going to do it the m79 contains only one shot?

Grim · « **Reply #74 on:** July 12, 2006, 10:51:30 am »

Skill? WTF?! The m79 hardly requires skill. The only thing skillful about it would be picking people of from out-of-screen range. It might have a little ark you have to get used to, but hardly any m79ers sit around sniping, must are just run and gun. Close range with an m79 just requires you to know when not to shoot so that you won't kill yourself in the process. The only thing I suggest for the m79 is make it a prone weapon like the LAW, or have it were you at least have to be on the ground.

pero · « **Reply #75 on:** July 12, 2006, 03:25:38 pm »

Quote from: The Bone Collector on June 25, 2006, 10:07:40 pm

Today, just like every other day, I jump into a server, and guess what I see...
Every second player with a bloody M79! NOw, this is typical in every server, so I take no notice of it. I pull out my trusty AK, and start blasting at a few base invaders, and out of nowhere comes this M79 nade. BOOM! There I go, split into a million pieces...I have a grumble and keep playing. This time I choose the Minigun, and proceed to batter the Bastar ds who had just stolen my flag. before I'd even had a chance to move, some twat flys right over the top of my teams spawn area, and M79s me and countless other teammates. So I call in some help and a fellow teammate takes him out with barret...

This has happened to me, and prolly many other people, and its what screws this game up. instant ONE HIT KILLS from those sort of weapons, are just inapropriate. Barret isn't that bad, but so many people abuse the M79, and it doesn't require ANY skill, I don't care what anyone says. My siter (who's played soldat for the first time the other day, and she chose the M79!, and she literally PWNed every bloody bot ( and me) with it. so, I call for either, more self damage on this weapon, or make the damge less...or totally remove it from the game all together...

I agree with aquarius..maybe its cause you suck, and m79 does require skill..just people like to use it.Grim its easy because people use it a lot in crowded public servers where, as 5th_acount already said, people dont know how to evade and stuff like that, and its easier to hit someone in a group op 5 players than on an 1v1 situation.. think about it

ThomasMortfog · « **Reply #76 on:** July 12, 2006, 03:38:12 pm »

Quote from: jettlarue on June 27, 2006, 12:09:00 am

ok air139...its m79 lol... and ruger and chainsaw and nades and deagles arent 1 hit kill. ruger is 2 unless u get head shot(i believe). deagles take 2-3. chainsaw takes 3-4. nades depend on where u get hit.

and btw, m79 is easiest weapon to evade i think. just stay out of there 4 inch circle and shoot at them. if you cant do that then well....you suck at dodging. if they run at you just throw a nade in the path of there m79. it will cause a mid air explosion and possibly kill an m79'r

here is my weapons mod i made that makes m79 a bit easier to evade since they cant randomly shoot.

Damage=165000
FireInterval=180
Ammo=4
ReloadTime=-1
Speed=110
BulletStyle=4
StartUpTime=0
Bink=25
MovementAcc=3

it makes it so the m79er only has 4 m79's. then they need to use there secondary. i personally do not need to have this, but for others it seems to help them. all the best to you balancers

Chainsaw is one hit kill.

I think the M79 is completely unbalanced. The reload time is too short. Add +120 to reload. Take away that 5000 damage, it only made it more unbalanced. Bink? Forget it. Just put it at 0, it has ONLY ONE SHOT before a reload so it doesn't matter.

For those of you who don't know, damage for explosives in soldat = how big the range will be. So 5000+ more splash damage makes the m79 more balanced? No, it doesn't. It just makes it worse!

Remember that crap .ini mod I made awhile back to test explosives? Yeah. They only kill of on direct hit, because all weapons were EXPLOSIVES, and the DAMAGE WAS 0.

People, you need to test things like this, you can't just know it.

JudgeMan · « **Reply #77 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:13:54 pm »

Bink is there so when you're getting shot at with an auto, your aim will decrease / your shot is not gonna go where you aim.

M79 requires no skills to kill unskilled players.
But it requires a LOT of skills to use in clan wars (high level of skills). ((exception of 1 or 2 maps))

Cato269 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:24:40 pm »

Quote from: JudgeMan on July 12, 2006, 05:13:54 pm

Bink is there so when you're getting shot at with an auto, your aim will decrease / your shot is not gonna go where you aim.

he was talking about selfbink, not bink.

Hootie hoo · « **Reply #79 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:31:02 pm »

Yes, I agree. The M79 is overabused. I hate that! Argh!
I suggest a longer reload time by 1 or 1.5 seconds as well as a startup time of 30 ticks (.5 seconds) and twice as much bink. That would make it fair.
Do NOT change the damage. I would like it if the M79 grenade was changed to a regular grenade so that it wouldn't explode on impact and possibly, if it barely missed you, chomp half of your health away.
That would make it fair.

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Author Topic: I have had enough (Read 22718 times)

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