I have had enough

[Cato269]

Do NOT change the damage. I would like it if the M79 grenade was changed to a regular grenade so that it wouldn't explode on impact and possibly, if it barely missed you, chomp half of your health away.
That would make it fair.

erm...no it it barely misses you, it should stay they way it is, doing 1/3-1/8 damage...

BUT A HALF??? it's already OVER POWERED

[Hootie hoo]

Do NOT change the damage. I would like it if the M79 grenade was changed to a regular grenade so that it wouldn't explode on impact and possibly, if it barely missed you, chomp half of your health away.
That would make it fair.

erm...no it it barely misses you, it should stay they way it is, doing 1/3-1/8 damage...

BUT A HALF??? it's already OVER POWERED

I didn't suggest changing the damage.

Do NOT change the damage. I would like it if the M79 grenade was changed to a regular grenade so that it wouldn't explode on impact and possibly, if it barely missed you, chomp half of your health away.
That would make it fair.

I was saying that now, it can take away a lot of health if it barely misses you. Sheesh.

[Gold]

why do you all complain about M79 lol

[mike323]

Today, just like every other day, I jump into a server, and guess what I see...
Every second player with a bloody M79! NOw, this is typical in every server, so I take no notice of it. I pull out my trusty AK, and start blasting at a few base...

100000000000% with you. Half of this board should know how bit.chy i am with the nub cannon.

here's my philosophy:
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1336.msg23601#msg23601

[Mr. Jenkins]

I think the charge-up that was added to the barret proves you wrong. The m79 will change, just like the barret did. Except not necessarily with charge-up. Maybe with charge-up time.

[Shadow G-Unit]

Skill? WTF?! The m79 hardly requires skill. The only thing skillful about it would be picking people of from out-of-screen range. It might have a little ark you have to get used to, but hardly any m79ers sit around sniping, must are just run and gun. Close range with an m79 just requires you to know when not to shoot so that you won't kill yourself in the process. The only thing I suggest for the m79 is make it a prone weapon like the LAW, or have it were you at least have to be on the ground.

it takes skill! How many times do i need to say dat

[Mr. Jenkins]

Don't just say it takes skill. Give some sort of argument. "It takes skill" proves nothing.

[Cato269]

Don't just say it takes skill. Give some sort of argument. "It takes skill" proves nothing.

he's right, becuase everything in the world takes skill.


hell to wake up in the morning takes skill, so you can't use that "0/\/\g U R All N0bz the /\/\79 t/\k3z ZklLL t0 uZ3"

becuase it's how you use it, not how good you are with it.



'It's not if you win or lose, it's how you play the game' -Spy kids 3d

Im with that qoute!

[Mr. Jenkins]

Disregarding your actual point, that quote is just a load of hodgepodge (he, hodgepodge). It's a freakin cliche! Doesn't mean anything, just supposed to show the character is good at "heart". It should be 'It's not only about if you win or lose, it's also how you play the game.' That's a little better.

[Shadow G-Unit]

Why the f**k does everyone hate the M79! Oh lemme guess, it's too powerful and has too much range! DEAL WITH IT AND STOP WHINING! STUPID BABIES!


Look at me! I lick sweat oh dead man's balls!

[Twistkill]

Why the f**k does everyone hate the M79! Oh lemme guess, it's too powerful and has too much range! DEAL WITH IT AND STOP WHINING! STUPID BABIES!

Maybe if you had actually read the posts in this thread thoroughly you would see why we're complaining about it.

[5th_account]

Post more gentle replies, g-unit, or don't post at all. Else I'll edit all yer posts in here to make you look like an ass. This is a thread with somewhat of a discussion about M79, pwease don't harass those who do so.

[NinjaXrage]

I so agree with you. Its like fast reload no aim required barret. Thank goodness for shortrange. I might start using it. I just cant stand being the only deagler in whole server.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

I just cant stand being the only deagler in whole server.

But the desert eagles are great.  I've been killed in two shots by a guy with them, and in general they kill in three shots.  They also have a decent sized clip.

Back to the m79 discussion:
I think everyone hates the m79 and calls it a noob weapon because it's a one hit kill.  I've had people quit a server because I've LAWed them too many times, and I've heard people calling knife users, chainsaw users, and snipers noobs as well.  The barrett is called a noob weapon because it's annoying to get shot by one, not because it takes no skill to use.  The same holds true for the knife.  If you get killed by a chainsaw it's your own fault, unless of course the attacker was hiding in bushes.  Camping like that may be "tactical", but it implies that you can't face opponants one on one.

As for the m79, sure it's annoying when you get hit by one, but it's a short range weapon and it's easy to dodge. 

I pull out my trusty AK, and start blasting at a few base invaders, and out of nowhere comes this M79 nade. BOOM! There I go, split into a million pieces...So I call in some help and a fellow teammate takes him out with barret...

The lesson? Use long-range/powerful weapons when dealing with short-range powerful ones.  Don't use an ak74 against an m79!  When you have two short range weapons, the one with more power (m79) will always win.

This has happened to me, and prolly many other people, and its what screws this game up. instant ONE HIT KILLS from those sort of weapons, are just inapropriate. Barret isn't that bad,

Why isn't the barrett "that bad"?  It's a one hit kill weapon too...according to you, that should be "just inappropriate".

but so many people abuse the M79, and it doesn't require ANY skill, I don't care what anyone says. My siter (who's played soldat for the first time the other day, and she chose the M79!, and she literally PWNed every bloody bot ( and me) with it.

They're BOTS!  The only time bots offer any challenge at all is when one has a barrett on the highest difficulty level (they never miss then).  Everyone owns bots; it's not that hard to do so.

So, I call for either, more self damage on this weapon, or make the damge less...or totally remove it from the game all together...

No.  m79 is annoying, sure, but its range is too short to make it a huge threat.  More self damage is unnecessary, because if you were close enough that the m79er damaged himself, it's your own fault for getting killed.  If you were far enough that it didn't damage him, it's your fault again, because at that range it's no problem to dodge the shots.

Dodging an m79 is simple: As you get into range, either jump -> prone -> jet or something similar to rapidly change your speed/direction.  Also, you'd be surprised at how many shots you can dodge just by going prone.  The shots (including m79 grenades) go right over you.  If you can't dodge, either the problem is on your end (you're doing it wrong) or your opponant is skilled with the m79 (it's no longer a noob weapon in that case).

Gamer_2k4

[NinjaXrage]

Personally I dont care much about m79. Anless alot of people in the opposite team are useing it I normally own em before they even get in range to do a hit that I cant dodge. Im more annoyed of people runnin around spawn area with chainsaw spawning everyone and thinkin there so pro.

[Zegovia]

Latley ive also developed a form of despise against the m79, its irritating when every single player in game uses it..... the team becomes ridicoulsy unorganised.....

My suggestions are... increase splash damage and increase the reload time....

[Dark Jesus]

I have absolutely no problem with the M79.

i also have no problem

[X-Rayz]

I agree and disagree with you Mr. Jenkings.

I agree that the M79 needs to be tweaked. Add a couple more seconds reload onto it. Bit more bink. That stuff.

I disagree with your constant constant whining. Here is how to dodge a m79:

If you are in the situation where a M79 is coming towards you from the right, going left, and YOU are going right, from the left then: Hold W+D. Should make you jump towards the 79er. Then, in the air hold W+A and jet. The result is you jump in the air towards the enemy, then you will backflip and jet backwards away from him. Then stay out of range and shoot him until he dies BEFORE he comes into range.

If you both are going to quick for this, and you are in the air, then: Take as long as you dare to slow down your soldat with his jets. Then when he comes into firing range, go PRONE and drop like a stone to the ground. Unprone before you hit the ground, backflip away from him and fire out of range.

This sounds like alot to do but i've done it enough that it becomes my natural reaction to do.

[Keron Cyst]

... My suggestions are... increase splash damage and increase the reload time....

That sounds good.

Either that or give it a Startuptime. Just a tiny bit, like the LAW. Maybe even smaller. But even 4 will mess up the n00best of n00bs and will diminish its use at least a bit.

[NinjaXrage]

But it should have more reload. Its a friggin grenade launcher not a Sub-Machine gun.