Weapon weights

[thenonliner]

Giving weapons a certain weight could be something cool for realistic mode... probably one of the biggest flaws with this suggestion i minigun surfing.

[Lord Frunkamunch]

Nah, it's not needed at all, plus it'd take balancing (as in, minigun surfing may be annoying, but the minigun itself is by far the single most crappy weapon, so hindering it with more weight would either be a mistake on the part of the beta testers, or they could implement this and scrap the existing weapons.ini to make it fair, all to solve just one problem which really is less a flaw in the weapon itself than players abusing a weapon).

In other words,

No.

[Therion]

I like this idea (as an option). It would help to balance machineguns and miniguns in realistic mods.

[NorrisScott]

The thing with this would mean that to counter-balance the problem with the incredible weight the minigun you would have to probably have the soldier crouch. At least then it can be implied that the soldier has legs for the gun to rest on for him to fire.

That might force some strategy into the minigun, but trust me: when you implement something, you don't want to force people to do anything, you want to make it an option. I doubt this would get much support in that aspect.

It's a good idea though, but we also have to remember that our little Soldats would, in real life, be physically trained to handle the weapons in the game relatively well-- weight included.

[Zamorak]

Minigun surfing was nerfed a long time ago, in version 1.3.

Now, it's not a problem like it was in <1.2.1

Also, weapons having weight would adversely affect the balance.

[Magic Odd Effect]

It depends. I mean, would the Barret be affected?

A real person CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT, fire either a pair of D'Eagles, a Barret, or a minigun while standing, unless he wants to be knocked back about ten feet, or lose full use of his arms for the rest of his life.

The reason being is that the D'Eagles and Barret both fire .50 cal bullets, and that's why they weigh so much, because those bullets are FREAKING heavy. Plus, the minigun weighs in advance of 200 pounds. The modified version, even....couldn't be fired from anything but a tripod mount, or a stationary position such as a boat or helicopter. If weight were implemented, all three of these weapons would be severely hindered, and that's horrible for snipers, D' Eaglers, and anyone stupid enough to use the minigun these days.

If you want realism here, then this is a good idea. Otherwise, it'd ruin the fun of the game.

No.

[Mangled*]

Weight isn't a very good idea.

We'd end up with a counter-strike style situation with everybody running around really fast with knives out and then switching to barrett or Minimi when they see an enemy.

Also it'd be difficult to implement, and ruin soldats fast-paced gameplay.

[boer]

^^ but your weight should be based on your total package, say drop the primary and nades so you could be faster with saw, then it would be great because increased agility makes up for a lesser arsenal, however the effect should be slight.

Mangled, why would it ruin "the fast paced gameplay"? Give reasons, son.
It should be easy to implement, but to balance is another matter.

[JohnCena]

I really dont like the decision it would be stupid and if the wep weight then for the realisitc mod should be a stamina bar 2 and i think thats stupid

[Avis]

It depends. I mean, would the Barret be affected?

A real person CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT, fire either a pair of D'Eagles, a Barret, or a minigun while standing, unless he wants to be knocked back about ten feet, or lose full use of his arms for the rest of his life.

The reason being is that the D'Eagles and Barret both fire .50 cal bullets, and that's why they weigh so much, because those bullets are FREAKING heavy. Plus, the minigun weighs in advance of 200 pounds. The modified version, even....couldn't be fired from anything but a tripod mount, or a stationary position such as a boat or helicopter. If weight were implemented, all three of these weapons would be severely hindered, and that's horrible for snipers, D' Eaglers, and anyone stupid enough to use the minigun these days.

If you want realism here, then this is a good idea. Otherwise, it'd ruin the fun of the game.

No.

Eagles... perhaps, Barrett is always used while lying on the ground, and the minigun... 

The weights themselves?

Eagles with ammunition ~3.8 kg
MP5 with ammunition ~3kg
AK74 with ammunition ~3.6kg
AUG with ammunition ~4kg
Spas12 with ammunition ~4.5kg
Ruger 77 with ammunition ~3.3kg
M79 with ammunition ~2.9kg
Barrett with ammunition ~14.5kg
FN Minimi ~7.7kg
XM 214 Minigun with 100 rounds ~15.6kg
[...And i guess you couldn't rush with the chainsaw anymore ]

The Barrett, Minimi and the minigun would be mainly stationary, where the M79 would become even more of your average "lolz i rushed u and u dieded"-firearm.

As an option, ok, forced, no.
I think there should be more OPTIONS for the game anyway, just to provide more customization.
(Lowgrav-Instagib WOULD be fun)

[Toxic Avenger]

I don't know about weights, though I think you should be able to move faster when you're carrying only one weapon.

[SDFilm]

I really don't support this because the beta testers would either need to make the heavier weapons more powerfull than the lighter (faster) weapons or leave the lighter weapons with the advantage purly for realisms sake.

[Deadeye Rob]

I dont think its a good idea, because your adding complcated elements to a simple game.

When a game starts you just pick a gun a blam away. If this idea is used, then players would have to decide over an additional factor.

I prefer to judge a weapon on accuracy and power.

[Mr. Domino]

Giving weapons a certain weight could be something cool for realistic mode... probably one of the biggest flaws with this suggestion i minigun surfing.

Realistic mode nothing! I suggested this on the old forums as I think having weapon weight would be the perfect way to aid in weapon balance. The one-hit kill weapons are large, heavy weapons, so it would be the ideal way to have them be as effective as they should be but counterbalance that with a hit in the player's movement, running speed, and leaping. We could finally have a worthwhile, useful minigun. The ridiculous LAW reload could be eliminated, and so on and so forth. It's the one thing I'd add if I owned Soldat and could program.