Why , you niggaz , hate M79

[White Negro]

First:I respect negros , so i don`t call THEM Niggaz.
NVM
Why , the hell , YOU hate m79?Because it kills with one shot?Well...in the real life , M79 realy kills with one shot and splits your body.Ok , imagine , that you fight against M79 guy.If he misses , you have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to kill him.
Now imagine , that you use - Steyr Aug for example , against him.Boom , doo , doo , doo , 1 clip , 2 clips...and he is still alive!!(if you play in normal mode).
In realistic mode , M79 is useless , because of the vision(that`s why i use SPAS 12 in realistic) , but how can you aim , if suddenly someone appears in  ten (game)metres to you.Actually , M79 can shooot in range of 400 metres , but...in Soldat it can`t...
The onliest thing , that makes it noobish , is the campers.I`m not counted , because i hate camping.

[m00`]

what happens when the m79er runs, shoots, runs, shoots, runs until he gets you? thats what im faced with all the time, and thats why I hate m79's, and no you dont have all the time in the world to kill him when he misses, the reload time is very short

[EnEsCe]

Your weird, really weird...

I dunno wtf your on about with the Steyr, you must be versing bots on Dumb settings or something... M79's reload time is really short

[White Negro]

If you know , how to dodge the grenades(slowing movement , proning in the air) you won`t get annoied of that weapon.
YOU also have the rights , to shoot your hunter with your weapon , or throw and use grenades like landmines(that`s how i get rid of them)

[a-4-year-old]

Naw, the m79 isn't overpowered, it only gives an infininte ammount of grinades that explode no matter what in a instant kill, you can only get 2-3 shots off before being taken down, it is only incredibly easy to get close in many maps because of their layout.


not overpowered at all.

[Eagles_Arrows]

This just in: commas take over the world.

I don't hate the M79.  In fact, I use it as a last resort on CS maps.

[jrgp]

All the guns in the real world kill with one shot.

But in soldat it isn't really fair because to one-shot-kill with a ruger or a barret, etc it takes skill.

With the m79 all it takes is to master the arc.

No I don't hate it but I just wish it had something to make it less powerful and more balenced like a start-up-time.

[Fraggy]

jrgp  is right,
like the whole of soldat: easy to play, hard to master.

this counts for every weapon...
every weapon is perfectly balanced,
it depends on yours kill how deadly it is.

[SDFilm]

Holy ****! You use more commas than me! 

I'm with jrgp on this.

First:I respect negros , so i don`t call THEM Niggaz.

Huh? Since when was this the black people vs hillbillies forums? 

Edit: Noo! you changed your avatar Eagles_Arrows 

[Nightcrawler]

Man, i had no idea what side you were on, White Negro.

I just hate the people who call other "n00b" because they get killed by the M79. So, thats when i rip out my AK (or sometimes Barret, just for sh!ts and giggles ) and kill them some more. Aaaah...enjoyable.

[Mothafix]

M79 is really, really annoying. You just shoot somewhere and people die.
MM must do something about it, like put startup time in it for example.
P.S I*A; MNOT NIGGATA!!1

[zyxstand]

M79...  if you miss once, you can easily hide and reload before the enemy can get to you.  Barret it's not so easy because of the delay and longer reload time.  If you have M79 and suddenly someone starts firing at you from behind, all you need to do is turn around and shoot.  With barret, not only will you get BINKED, but also, you have the delay making it even hard to kill such an unexpected attack.  That is why the M79 is cheap and requires no skills.

[[R^M]TomaHawk]

Dude i aint being mean or anything but 1 shot with a AUG u would be laying down on the ground yellin for a medic and if the m79 was so good im nam(vieatnam for short)it would be modded and have it its place in the 21st century.They did away with the m79 because it was to much cleaning and carring 2pound bullets.So after nam they fused together to make a M203 u can use it in cqb with the gun mode and when u dont want to mess with enemys hiding out with thier freinds in 1 spot raiose up the flap aim fire boom u just killed 2 tangos.

[Mr. Domino]

If you have M79 and suddenly someone starts firing at you from behind, all you need to do is turn around and shoot.  With barret, not only will you get BINKED, but also, you have the delay making it even hard to kill such an unexpected attack.

The M79 gets binked! I really wish people would stop saying it doesn't. The problem is that you allow yourself to get too close to the M79 user. At close to point blank range, bink isn't an issue for any weapon.

Surprised the title has not been changed due to racism... even though the OP just loves "THEM" "niggaz."

[Graham]

I hate m79's, and no you dont have all the time in the world to kill him when he misses, the reload time is very short

You can unload from half to all of a clip depending on which gun your using in the reload time. I have died plenty of times whiloe reloading by auto users, maybe you just suck

[crackadillicus]

big ups to fraggy & jgrp

i don't use the m79, & i'll admit it gets annoying when you play against an entire team usin em, but 1v1 any weapon can take another if it's used right

whether we all like to admit it or not, this game is damn well balanced, & that's why we all play it

[S4R]

M79 is a cool weapon, except when all of the Red & Blue team of U13 clogs up ctf_Nuubia with it, then I get pissed off. But M79'ers like Poop and Spectral, I respect.

[X-Rayz]

Damn straight, no weapon in this game is 'noobish' or cheap. With the m79 you shoot, and if its over a long distance, it might as well be a feather. It takes so long to fall so any person with normal reflexes should be able to backflip, roll, slow down, speed up. And if you do manage to dodge that and take him out it is very satisfying.

And its even stupider when someone calls the barret a noob weapon. JUST HOW THE HELL IS THAT A NOOB WEAPON?!

[Jessica]

I dunno, I can be killed by anyother weapon and be fine with it. But it's when I constantly am killed by a M79, then that gets annoying.

But you gotta admit they have to have some sort of skill. Because when I tried using it, I was horrible at it, and it seemed that I shot the nade like 500x slower than everybody that was killing me with it lol.

Ah well, I guess if your good at it and you can kill people with it. Stick with it, no other reason not to use it lol. Because it is a crazy killing machine!

[DeMo]

Talk about small reload time.. look at the damn MP5.
It's 10 times worst than M79, very overpowered.

If miss your shot with M79 a guy with an MP5 can empty two clips on your ass before you can shoot him again.

[RabidTreeFrog]

Talk about small reload time.. look at the damn MP5.
It's 10 times worst than M79, very overpowered.

If miss your shot with M79 a guy with an MP5 can empty two clips on your ass before you can shoot him again.

I really hate to turn this into an MP5 debate, but...

  MP5 is quick. Fast reload time and rate of fire.
It also is weaker, to make up for its speed, and it has a short range, for the same reason.

Overpowered?

[krasnal]

Why , the hell , YOU hate m79?

Overpowered since 1.3.1.
Should it be destroyed like brt?

[shadow9]

Halfway through reloading your first clip u'd get p00ned.

Talk about small reload time.. look at the damn MP5.
It's 10 times worst than M79, very overpowered.

If miss your shot with M79 a guy with an MP5 can empty two clips on your ass before you can shoot him again.

I really hate to turn this into an MP5 debate, but...

 MP5 is quick. Fast reload time and rate of fire.
It also is weaker, to make up for its speed, and it has a short range, for the same reason.

Overpowered?

Second thing. 'Everytime a noob kills someone with a m79 a fairy dies. Remember that' Taken from cartoon #21 of the help guide and tips. REMEMBER!

[Didimow]

nothing wrong with m79.

[Lethal Injection]

There's no reason to whine about that weapon... It's just too easy to aim with I think. A normal GUNSHOT WOUND from a deagle can kill you, why can't a grenade capable of blowing a hole in a tank do this?

[Zegovia]

I belive that i get all the time in the world to kill an m79er while he reloads.... 

[Raithah]

I've found that while using the M79, I get almost three times as many kills as I do with my second most perferred weapon (Spaz). The main reason being, a simple flip into the air, while flying behind them, will give even anyone the amount of time they need to reload. I can get two shots in on someone before the even hit me.

My extreme hatred for this gun may stem from the three or so people who I always find on a team, who incessantly kamikaze people. They don't even try to live, they just go flying into you and fire. Instant kill. It pisses me off like hell.

No, I don't think it should be nerfed, though. We should all just get the right to spam them with n00b callings.

[T-Bone]

Halfway through reloading your first clip u'd get p00ned.

Talk about small reload time.. look at the damn MP5.
It's 10 times worst than M79, very overpowered.

If miss your shot with M79 a guy with an MP5 can empty two clips on your ass before you can shoot him again.

I really hate to turn this into an MP5 debate, but...

 MP5 is quick. Fast reload time and rate of fire.
It also is weaker, to make up for its speed, and it has a short range, for the same reason.

Overpowered?

Second thing. 'Everytime a noob kills someone with a m79 a fairy dies. Remember that' Taken from cartoon #21 of the help guide and tips. REMEMBER!

or check SDFilms Siggy, which is were it originated i think

[Joako]

I've found that while using the M79, I get almost three times as many kills as I do with my second most perferred weapon (Spaz). The main reason being, a simple flip into the air, while flying behind them, will give even anyone the amount of time they need to reload. I can get two shots in on someone before the even hit me.

My extreme hatred for this gun may stem from the three or so people who I always find on a team, who incessantly kamikaze people. They don't even try to live, they just go flying into you and fire. Instant kill. It pisses me off like hell.

No, I don't think it should be nerfed, though. We should all just get the right to spam them with n00b callings.

AMEN! He's right.

To the maker of this thread, you're prolly one of those people that just run up at you with M79, click, and boom you're both dead.

Sometimes the kamikaze M79er even survives.

I do think that the M79 is slightly overpowered. Specially in CTF.

The solution is to make it's splash a bit lower, increment it's self damage to 100%, and increase it's reload time by .1 seconds.

There.

[Mr. Domino]

I've found that while using the M79, I get almost three times as many kills as I do with my second most perferred weapon (Spaz). The main reason being, a simple flip into the air, while flying behind them, will give even anyone the amount of time they need to reload. I can get two shots in on someone before the even hit me.

The M79 does not reload while backflipping or rolling, since those are special actions. You are right that the M79 will often get in at least two shots though. I used to think it was short ranged when I used it compared to other weapons, and while it is in the sense that you'll never pelt something off screen as you can with other primaries, it still pretty much has full screen shot capability.

[Noldi]

I <3 m79.

[DSG4LIVEBABY]

*snip*

[SDFilm]

Look! Its the Ban Hammer!

*Bassy thump*

[karmazon]

Damnit I've been using m79 since I started, everyone's hating on it, because they're jelous of my skills.

[Twistkill]

Talk about small reload time.. look at the damn MP5.
It's 10 times worst than M79, very overpowered.

If miss your shot with M79 a guy with an MP5 can empty two clips on your ass before you can shoot him again.

Yes, but the MP5 binks quicky because of that fast rate of fire, and it has a rather short range.

[Sotija]

I dont hate m79 and im not nigga.In fact its balanced in realistic.

[Mister Angry]

Uh huh...balanced in realistic...

That is if you don't count splash damage instantly killing you or getting boosted into the ground, which kills you by the way...

*cough cough*

[Graham]

What people need to realize is that people are jsut good with different guns, I started about using autos, then tried spas, then did barret, finally I ended with m79 and am branching out to ruger. Some people naturally use autos some use other guns... thats what makes our little pixelated world go 'round.

[Bitem]

m79 sucks men xD
even if you have bulletproofbest you die in one shoot

[Eagles_Arrows]

m79 sucks men xD
even if you have bulletproofbest you die in one shoot

No duh, Sherlock.

[Le MeSsiE {neo}]

I hate M79 because I love it.

[Headless Sniper Ex]

i love barret im really good at it i miss 1 once for every 12 shots
i get killed wen i miis with barret or i get a socom and own with it cause im good with it
 

[general left right]

The thing about m79 is that theres so many ways to one shot kill someone.  Even if you miss with it, you can still kill someone with the splash, and you can noobshoot into a mass of people and just kill half of them.  If anyone cares, you cant do that with any other gun in one shot, even a barret.  Also, if a M79 kills in one shot, why doesnt a grenade?

Lastly, it is easier to use in close combat than any other gun.  With the barret, you cant use it in close combat and hope to survive, and with any other gun there is no way you can kill in one shot.  But with a '79, you simply shoot straight forward and you took someone out.  And (in less time than a barret's prep.) you reload, kill again.  Personally I think the splash should be bigger, so if you kill someone in close combat youll get hurt.

[Mr. Domino]

Also, if a M79 kills in one shot, why doesnt a grenade?

Grenades do kill on hit, though it's not as guaranteed as the M79 and more so the Barret. I know a few times I've dodged an M79 shot thinking I had the go ahead to close in, only to get a grenade stuffed down my throat and die on impact, even with full health. Walking on a grenade is pretty much an instant kill as well. I'm actually surprised that the M79 gets so much flack with grenades being so plentiful on servers, and doing everything the M79 does times four (usually).

Lastly, it is easier to use in close combat than any other gun.  With the barret, you cant use it in close combat and hope to survive, and with any other gun there is no way you can kill in one shot.  But with a '79, you simply shoot straight forward and you took someone out.  And (in less time than a barret's prep.) you reload, kill again.  Personally I think the splash should be bigger, so if you kill someone in close combat youll get hurt.

This is what needs to happen. Ideally, every weapon would have its place in the game. With M79 shots and grenades being able to be unloaded point blank for a kill but not selfkill, it rids any reason to hold onto a chainsaw or knife. Kamikaze M79ers should be just that -- kamikaze. If they're willing to take you out at close range, then they shouldn't have the luxury of advancing on the map, doing the same to everyone they come across.

[o0oh0ller]

if u see someon kill me with m79 then die right after,thats what u call a n00b

[Fluffy]

I have no problem with the M79. If you keep your distance from it and dodge constantly, it's no danger at all.

And M79 does require skills, stop crying like a baby.

[Mister Angry]

(Yay, I make this annoying thread live, FUN!)

M hmm... Skills...

What are these "skills" needed?

The ability to madly charge through the map and simply click when a person an inch in distance from you and if you miss contiue madly charging?

One hit kill weapons do NOT belong in a 2d game...

[Mr. Domino]

What are these "skills" needed?

The ability to madly charge through the map and simply click when a person an inch in distance from you and if you miss contiue madly charging?

I could say that the dead person lacks skill getting that close to an unidentified M79 user as well. It's not difficult at all to make the shot miss and kill from a distance. People expecting to charge blindly on a map then complain when they don't have time to react after charging head first into death is ridiculous.

One hit kill weapons do NOT belong in a 2d game...

I'd say the same about the autos. I can appreciate a person's ability to aim a shot and have it land on target. I'm not crazy about people being able to pump dozens of bullets in a certain direction, binking the person who actually needs to aim for kills before taking him out.

[general left right]

Hands down, M79 takes skill and luck for a far away shot, but again, none from close up. 
Auto's can get obnoxious bet they are more well balanced than the Barret and M79.  For instance, the Steyr may be fast and have good range, but its damage is shit.  Also, the Ak, may have good damage and range, but its speed is less than a Ruger.  Then, the mp5: Has ok damage and great speed, but it falls into the ground in around 5 metres.  And the minigun takes so much skill to kill with and be good at, because an auto-er trying to kill someone has to anticipate where they are going to be in two seconds.  Lastly the MiniMini, probably the best/most underrated auto, because most people want to hold it down, and its crappy when held down.  Its basically like a less powerful ruger with more ammo and a slower reload.
That being said, this is about m79, just clarifying

[Mister Angry]

What are these "skills" needed?

The ability to madly charge through the map and simply click when a person an inch in distance from you and if you miss contiue madly charging?

I could say that the dead person lacks skill getting that close to an unidentified M79 user as well. It's not difficult at all to make the shot miss and kill from a distance. People expecting to charge blindly on a map then complain when they don't have time to react after charging head first into death is ridiculous.

What about this "dead" person? Maybe he wasn't charging but he HAS to advance foward. You can't exactly stop on a dime and turn around. Momentum carries us foward dangit. What? Am I suppose to COMPLETELY slow down the game for me and always tread SLOWLY through maps, reaching my destination in 10 minutes so I don't get blasted? (But more vulernable to being sniped)

One hit kill weapons do NOT belong in a 2d game...

I'd say the same about the autos. I can appreciate a person's ability to aim a shot and have it land on target. I'm not crazy about people being able to pump dozens of bullets in a certain direction, binking the person who actually needs to aim for kills before taking him out.

Bink...Hahahaha...Bink is a bunch of lies the government told us. Bink does nothing! Not on m79's not on snipers. I keep the fire thick on many snipers...THICK, even from a good distance...and almost all the time I still get blasted. Hell, I even tried this for myself, in the same server I used the sniper and tested bink (Which is REAL hard since no one these days uses autos or semi-autos). I completely ignored this "Bink" I just aimed and fired...each time I got the kill, unless I can CLEARLY see my aim was actually off. 

M79...Bink...Hahahahahaha.... Funny...

Pfft... And about this "Actual aim" Still a 2d game... Firing a 79 shell to some one an inch away is NOT hard aiming, and even if it was shot from a distance...doesn't matter...I RARELY see people do that.  You know, I can't run away from every person I see assuming it's an m79. If I kept trying to keep distance all the time, I would be constantly be running back to my base, not accomplishing anything for my team at all.

Again...this is a 2d game. Sniping in soldat is hands down the EASIEST sniping I've ever used in an online shooting game. The fact it can one hit kill you from any part of the body... just adds insult to injury. I used to think sniping in games was cool, and took some real patience. It was always great to land a head shot on a person, since that would kill a guy in one hit...In this game...Shooting them in the leg will kill them...Doesn't make me feel "special" about the kill at all...

Damn, you snipers and 79'ers got it so easy...

snipers...if they miss, they can just run away since most of the time your shooting is *off screen*. Unline a traditonial 3d game, when you miss with a sniper, the shot is usually tracable back to the person and since you can still a little dot moving around, you know where the sniper is. Unlike soldat, the guy can just sneak around you even if they miss. When you see a bullet fly by you in Soldat, the only idea you have of where the guy is.....is RIGHT where it came from...The kid can simply run back a little and...they already get a second chance...

79'ers doesn't even have to shoot it at a long distance, just run through and click dangit >.>

I know this topic isnt about the barret but i feel the need to mention this. Hell, I can probably get past the fact that these weapons feel lame only if they werent used SO much.

This is why I don't play as much as I used to, the same old thing every day...so boring...

[Mr. Domino]

What about this "dead" person? Maybe he wasn't charging but he HAS to advance foward. You can't exactly stop on a dime and turn around. Momentum carries us foward dangit. What? Am I suppose to COMPLETELY slow down the game for me and always tread SLOWLY through maps, reaching my destination in 10 minutes so I don't get blasted? (But more vulernable to being sniped)

Yep! I agree that it's a Catch-22, damned if you do, damned if you don't situation at times. Look at the weapons as shades of gray with the one-hit primaries at the two extremes -- one which rewards speed via short reaction times and boosting, and the other extreme patience through camping and extended view range. Still, you're exagerating far too much regarding the time it takes to not bunny hop like an idiot regardless of one's surroundings and reach the other side of a given map. You could walk Equinox and Run in 30 seconds or so.

Edit:

Bink...Hahahaha...Bink is a bunch of lies the government told us. Bink does nothing! Not on m79's not on snipers.

It does, and if you tried using one under auto fire, you'd see. Of course, any weapon isn't going to have aiming issues if you're face-to-face with the binked enemy. At the same time, bink isn't some magical event that makes it impossible to fire, and you can adjust to it somewhat, though for an M79, the auto stream will have likely binked, pushed out of range, and killed before you can make a good shot.

Pfft... And about this "Actual aim" Still a 2d game... Firing a 79 shell to some one an inch away is NOT hard aiming, and even if it was shot from a distance...doesn't matter...I RARELY see people do that.

Most of my M79 shots are mid to long range. It should be that way, too. Ideally, as a weapon, you should be forced to avoid using it at close range due to self kill. Learning how to sail a shot and predict enemy movement is a skill, and being able to land shots such as those are tremendously satisfying, especially given the slow speed of it all. A long distance M79 shot will take two to three seconds just to reach an opponent. That should be the scale -- power versus range/speed. Unfortunately, the problem is too many people are just charging through explosions which kill an opponent but not themselves.

Firing any weapon an inch away from an enemy is "not hard aiming." This isn't exclusive to the M79. Name me one weapon that takes skill to strike someone an inch away. Don't say chainsaw or fists.

You know, I can't run away from every person I see assuming it's an m79. If I kept trying to keep distance all the time, I would be constantly be running back to my base, not accomplishing anything for my team at all.

You're engaging in hyperbole. You don't have to run away from everyone. You are attacking them, right? If you don't see someone firing at you the moment you're in his or her view, then you should already assume they're getting into his or her weapon's range. This goes for the knife, Spas, grenades, and possibly others. Not working into your weapon's strengths is poor planning, and just charging into a face-to-face encounter is both unnecessary and asking for death. Learn this, and you'll enjoy tearing apart your enemies struggling to get in just to fire off their M79.

[The Geologist]

If things are so boring Mister Angry...then stop playing and whining at once.

For those of us who don't charge head on into people when using an m79, it does take a little skill to actualy aim.  Enough with the exhaggerations already.  hahahahahaha....funny.

Fuckin' whiners.

[Twistkill]

What are these "skills" needed?

Damn, you snipers and 79'ers got it so easy...

snipers...if they miss, they can just run away since most of the time your shooting is *off screen*. Unline a traditonial 3d game, when you miss with a sniper, the shot is usually tracable back to the person and since you can still a little dot moving around, you know where the sniper is. Unlike soldat, the guy can just sneak around you even if they miss. When you see a bullet fly by you in Soldat, the only idea you have of where the guy is.....is RIGHT where it came from...The kid can simply run back a little and...they already get a second chance...

79'ers doesn't even have to shoot it at a long distance, just run through and click dangit >.>

I know this topic isnt about the barret but i feel the need to mention this. Hell, I can probably get past the fact that these weapons feel lame only if they werent used SO much.

This is why I don't play as much as I used to, the same old thing every day...so boring...

The barrett is not that easy to use. The delay does balance it out a little, and a lot of times it can miss even if the cursor is dead center on your target. Not only that, but you have to wait about 4 second between shots. Have you ever used the Barrett? The Barrett excels only in large maps like Rok and Run, and snipers don't have it that easy.

[Nfsjunkie91]

The barrett is not that easy to use. The delay does balance it out a little, and a lot of times it can miss even if the cursor is dead center on your target.

That's because of gravity. D:

[Twistkill]

The barrett is not that easy to use. The delay does balance it out a little, and a lot of times it can miss even if the cursor is dead center on your target.

That's because of gravity. D:

I know it curves after one screen or so, but it even goes above the target when the cursor is dead center and when the enemy is right in front of you.

[m2dDoG]

i dont hate m79 ,i hate ppl who use it
m79 is too easy killing,easy to handle...
people who kill others they think theyre realy pros then =/

[Mister Angry]

If things are so boring Mister Angry...then stop playing and whining at once.

For those of us who don't charge head on into people when using an m79, it does take a little skill to actualy aim. Enough with the exhaggerations already. hahahahahaha....funny.

****in' whiners.

No, If I wanted to whine I would come here saying...

Liek omfg waaaah dese gunz are fexing lame dey shuld just frickin nuke dem coz dey're laaame! Mommy I want my blankie!!!

I expressed my views on these weapons so deal with it, people can't like everything. I'm SO sorry that I can't idolize the...as you call them skilled players. Kinda hard to like actual "skilled" player when you go up against servers FULL of people using the same things.

Don't get ME wrong here, I like my sniping and grenade launchers. When I play traditional 3d games, I'm usually that camper on the ledge typing "BOOM HEADSHOT" whenever I get one. But I came to Soldat and tried camping...It felt more lame than fun...I don't feel very special when I blast a guy in the head...Because I can just nail 'em in the legs to kill the guy instead of taking the time to blow the kid's head off... And don't tell me to go off and play some other game. I like Soldat, why else would I've been playing it for like the past.... two years? Give or take a few months... I honestly think the flaws of 2d shooting is being shown when it comes to barret's and m79's. *

shrugs* why bother though, I've done different thinking in games many times before, going aganist the ways of how people does things during online games. And when I say "go aganist" I'm not necessarly saying that I think whatever the problem is...is lame...It's just I have a different way of thinking... Seems to be all a waste of typing energy for me. Not like anything's gonna change. Right now there's a bunch of Soldat "Vets" shaking their fists at me shouting "STFU NIGGA!!!1"

...and snipers don't have it that easy.

Hehehehehe... It looks like that it is easy going up against 6 snipers at once on an INF map.

[Jenkins]

The reason people hate M79 so much is because everybody uses it. When lots of people use a weapon your bound to get some stupid people to give it a bad name. Just look at what has happened to Barrett and Minigun.
Why lots of people use the M79 is, I think, because it is easy to get the hang of. But if you work really hard on another weapon (deagles, ruger, ak) you will generally be able to beat an M79er by extra range, more time to dodge etc.

[Gold]

im not even gonna read this, racist

[Spectral]

I only get annoyed by m79 when i use it and i hit the enemy dead on 2 mm in front of me and they dont die.  especially if they have the flag and get boosted away :Q

[{AFRO}BlackPowerFi]

People get annoyed when they die from M79 because people can get owned with ease using the gun, which make it a "noob gun" which it isnt, If you say M79 sucks then YOU suck, if you cant dodge 1 SLOW bullet then most likely u wont be able to dodge multiple bullets...
And the people who hate M79 are usually the people in the servers that say:
"OMG NOOB KILLED" "NOOB USE ANOTHER GUN" "STOP M79"..etc.
Wtf if you are skilled at AUG, MP5's, or AK u could take out an M79 with ease, just dodge the damn bullet..only time an M79 has the uper hand is when they are DIRECTLY in front of you since he has the 1 Hit kill weapon. And who ever said that "People abuse the M79 when there are a mass of people in a group and 1 guy shoots and kills everybody" WTF you could do that with a nad and a berret shot (If you are close and good/precise aim).

So I say STop Dissing the M79 its a good well balanced weapon amongst the others, and the people who own servers dont take off M79 (Unless the type of server requires you to) if you get owned by the M79 thats YOUR fault the Beginners at M79 are easy to dodge and the Skilled M79ers you stay in long range of.

Im demolition/sniper so im required to use M79, if you dont like getting pwned by M79 then go to Start>Control Panel>Add/Remove Programs/Click on Soldat and click "Remove" because no one wants to hear your constant whining on the internet.

[Semka]

Gettho style? lol.

[teh_ham]

Depends...if you are on the ground its pretty easy to dodge the actual bullet, but your most likely to be caught in the splash damage and be hurled into the air, and because the transition in speed in the air is very slow, its easy for the m79 guy to adjust his aim.

[MofoNofo]

I dont hate any weapon's of soldat. Much rather i hate the people who play.

[Mister Angry]

If you say M79 sucks then YOU suck, if you cant dodge 1 SLOW bullet then most likely u wont be able to dodge multiple bullets...

*sighs* 

I because no one wants to hear your constant whining on the internet.

I just LOVE it when people makes a long, bitchy rant, complaining about how people act about the m79, saying it's lame and crap...then at the end "LIEK OMFGZ I HATE U PPLZ ALWAYS WHINING AND CRAYP"

Well... you're "Whining" yourself about people "Whining" about the fucking weapons, goddamnit.

hypocrite...

[Night Vision]

I dont hate any weapon's of soldat. Much rather i hate the people who play.

same here.
M79 kills me = 'ns'.
Minigun kills 3 teammates and 1 enemy, then goes 'Hahahaha pwned' = rant

[BondJamesBond]

You Do NOT HAVE "all the time in the world" because the M79 reload is short and sweet

[-WildBill-]

If he misses , you have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to kill him.

key word being if, lol. problem is that your 'if' is pretty rare when youre up against someone whos played soldat a few times before lol.

oh and, ya know you dont put a space right before a comma, right? only after it

[mike323]

I've given up with the m79. Yet another one of these useless, explosive topics that lead the m79 discussion in circles. It's either you hate the 79 or you don't. I hate it with all my guts, because it's no fun to play against with an easy 1-hit kill. There. That's all there is to it.

If you don't like it, stay away from it (like me) because nothing's happening. Nothing's gonna change.

If you really want to hear my opinion the short way, I think the m79 corrupts soldat along with the barrat and law. I play videogames to have fun, not to be blasted away by some major who thinks he's so good with his lil noob cannon. A battle that lasts longer than a blast from an instant-kill weapon is what I play Soldat for. Apparently some people like the contrary. Which is why nothing's gonna change.

[jettlarue]

it doesnt bother me because i can dodge it. if you actually play and practice its not hard at all to stay away from m79.

[Mister Angry]

I've given up with the m79. Yet another one of these useless, explosive topics that lead the m79 discussion in circles. It's either you hate the 79 or you don't. I hate it with all my guts, because it's no fun to play against with an easy 1-hit kill. There. That's all there is to it.

If you don't like it, stay away from it (like me) because nothing's happening. Nothing's gonna change.

If you really want to hear my opinion the short way, I think the m79 corrupts soldat along with the barrat and law. I play videogames to have fun, not to be blasted away by some major who thinks he's so good with his lil noob cannon. A battle that lasts longer than a blast from an instant-kill weapon is what I play Soldat for. Apparently some people like the contrary. Which is why nothing's gonna change.

I love you.

[H31MU7]

As I say to topics about hating a weapon, Its apart of the game and there are ways to counter M79 users unless you got a bad ping like me. But iff you do have a assaultriffle you can kill, unless he takes cover. The person will die eventually.

[Gold]

lol everybody winges about how bad guns are, then uses them.

[general left right]

There is nothing wrong with the m79, just the select few users who abuse its power, along with sprayers and spawncampers and barretards.  If you get rid of the n00bs who use it wrongly, (running up to you and click, BANG, spawn in 4., then everything will be fine.

[{AFRO}BlackPowerFi]

If you say M79 sucks then YOU suck, if you cant dodge 1 SLOW bullet then most likely u wont be able to dodge multiple bullets...

*sighs*

I because no one wants to hear your constant whining on the internet.

I just LOVE it when people makes a long, *****y rant, complaining about how people act about the m79, saying it's lame and crap...then at the end "LIEK OMFGZ I HATE U PPLZ ALWAYS WHINING AND CRAYP"

Well... you're "Whining" yourself about people "Whining" about the ****ing weapons, goddamnit.

hypocrite...

That made no god damn since! An i played with you before your not that good and you kept bitching and left because people were owning you with the 1 hitter's then you said this server is for fucking noobs and left like a little bitch with i think 3 kills and 12 deaths, so i wouldnt go around calling people a hypocrite's when you are to. So stfu...

[Shadow G-Unit]

First of all M79 PWNS MAN! n00bs are the ones who cant dodge 'em!

[Mister Angry]

If you say M79 sucks then YOU suck, if you cant dodge 1 SLOW bullet then most likely u wont be able to dodge multiple bullets...

*sighs*

I because no one wants to hear your constant whining on the internet.

I just LOVE it when people makes a long, *****y rant, complaining about how people act about the m79, saying it's lame and crap...then at the end "LIEK OMFGZ I HATE U PPLZ ALWAYS WHINING AND CRAYP"

Well... you're "Whining" yourself about people "Whining" about the ****ing weapons, goddamnit.

hypocrite...

That made no god damn since! An i played with you before your not that good and you kept *****ing and left because people were owning you with the 1 hitter's then you said this server is for ****ing noobs and left like a little ***** with i think 3 kills and 12 deaths, so i wouldnt go around calling people a hypocrite's when you are to. So stfu...

...Nice Language. And I hope you know, a while back I made a thread in the old forums about this about people using other's names. That couldn't of been me because first off, I haven't played soldat in a very, very LONG time. I've been playing a game called Maple Story lately. So...The "Mister Angry" you saw Couldn't have been me.

Besides, I wear the "hat" Usually have a gold chain, black skin, and have taunts such as: "Aint no one gonna break my stride" and such. Plus that, I speak with grammar and (hopefully) good spelling on the forums and IN GAME. You cannot trust the names on this game by 100% I've seen people on the old forums admit to using other people's names for fun.

And I will tell you now, I RARELY Say things like "This server's for noobs" or "What a noob server" Unless there's hackers. When I see an abundance of one hit kill users, I usually say things such as "Well....isn't that kill-log beautiful?" (since the picture of m79's is seen rather ofton).

Listen, I know I'm not good or SUPAH AMAZING! But... 3 kills and 12 deaths? *laughs* That's an EYE SOAR for me, I WILL admit that I do BAD in games MANY times, but I havent reached THAT low :\

Seriously, Mister big "gangsta" kid, please...tell me this exact time you played with me, please. ESPECIALLY when I've lost some interest in this game for a rather long time, due to the fact people just loves using the same thing, made it too boring.

[The Geologist]

If you give up, you should lose your right to moan and groan.

[Mister Angry]

What? Do I have to force myself to play something that got boring to me?

[The Geologist]

No, but it's better than this nonsense about "Oh, I'm soooo bored with Soldat now".

Put up a worthwhile suggestion, plug a certain weapons.ini, but bickering with people on here just takes things nowhere.  If you want to take a stance, fine - do it.  But if your stance is you're so bored you don't want to play any more, then I for one don't want to hear what you have to say any more.

And another thing...don't call him out on swearing.  Wouldn't wanna be a hypocrite, now would ya?

[Mister Angry]

He said more than me (insert happy face here)

Blah blah blah...Say what you want, you're buggin me. I used to be a guy of reason and stuff but hanging around the internet so long makes me lose my patience. Pfft, I took a stance, but ah screw it, I've been "fighting" this for a looong time now. But then I got smart and realize *Hmm this is a waste of time, why bother fight it*

Go ahead, "pwn" me again with another comeback that I'll reply with some kind of stupid, pointless message that makes me look even more bad so we can contiue to make this dreadful thread live so more people can see it and come on then say something like...

"Yeah, m79 is teh ghey!"

or

"Noobz, m79 takes teh skills and such"

or

"Mister Angry go (cencored) yourself."

or....whatever...What am I rambling about?

[reckon]

This is off topic but whatever:
Can we seriously censor the title of this thread?
Im not even african american and I cringe when I read it.
I find it blatantly chauvinistic and unnecessary.

[Mr. Domino]

And I will tell you now, I RARELY Say things like "This server's for noobs" or "What a noob server" Unless there's hackers. When I see an abundance of one hit kill users, I usually say things such as "Well....isn't that kill-log beautiful?" (since the picture of m79's is seen rather ofton).

Then just leave and find another server at that point. It's annoying, but what's fun or not fun for you shouldn't dictate how everyone else on a server plays. I know if I encounter a Barret camp happy team, I could switch to binking weapons to attack or stay back to defend for my team to even things out, but that's not fun for me, so I leave after the map change.

This is off topic but whatever:
Can we seriously censor the title of this thread?
Im not even african american and I cringe when I read it.

I agree. Just because some idiots spam that junk in on-line and in-game chat logs doesn't mean this forum should tolerate that.

[Nfsjunkie91]

Well, I think that the M7-We interrupt this forum post to bring you this message. ZOMG FRAKKING SWEET AVATAR AND SIG GEO. *ahem* very well then.

Carrying on, in my opinion, the M79 is a very easy to use and most of the time difficult to dodge weapon. This is not only because of how the weapon works, but how the user of the weapon reacts in these situations. Let's bring one up, shall we?

I introduced a new player to Soldat, and after playing around with the weapons for about 2 minutes, he went to the M79. So, as he attempted to lob it at me and my clanmate from half a screen, he kept getting killed by that fresh baked mp5 goodness. Mmmm. That's when he started to run up to us and start "suicide bombing" us. He also liked to use the death from above/nade jump technique, and land on our faces before we had a chance to react. Of course, most people cam skip jump out of these situations, and since I know him online, I know how he plays the gun, but on a public server with more than 3-4 people, it can get chaotic when 2 on one team employ these tactics, and rush into the enemy base suiciding everyone in sight.

Also, the suicide techniques are almost never that. Precious and few are the moments a M79'er has blown themself to bits while hitting a target only *in real life* feet away.

However, this weapon can be used with great skill, but only by those who chose to learn how to use it! Simply running up and clicking at a target is not skill, but rather a lack of it. However, you could consider hurtling your Soldat across the screen a skill, and maybe you should try out race maps.

Also, all of you who say that the Barret is easier to use than the M79 make me doubt if you've ever really tried the weapon. I'm not oging to go far into the Barret topic, but the Barret is a fairly well balanced weapon in Soldat, even though shooting in the foot can bring a man to his... well knees. and face. and untimely demise. That's the only issue that really needs to be resolved with the Barret.

Therefore, in summary, the M79, unless used skillfully and tactically, is a noob weapon.

[-Vis-]

...still waiting for someone to use the word "hypocrite" in the correct manner.

Hypocrisy is based on a person's beliefs, not their actions. If they do something (whine for example), even though they actually believe it's not ok to do so, then they are NOT a hypocrite for it. So to call someone a hypocrite based on their actions is only making an assumption which you can't prove.. so you're better off not saying anything at all.

I don't think I need to add to this topic... everyone knows what I think about the m79... or at least, they should, by now.

[The Geologist]

It's too bad peoples beliefs dictate their actions, so contradicting those beliefs through action does indeed make one a hypocrite.  If a guy preaches about not beating ones wife and then goes home to beat his own, he is a hypocrite.

Don't worry, you didn't add anything to this topic.

I agree with Nfs here.  Running up to a target and popping off a point blank shot isn't skill, and that's what gives the rest of the people using a gun a bad name. If any changes should be made to the gun, it should be in responce to that.

[-Vis-]

Yeah, because everyone believes that it's ok to lie... no I didn't think so.

Saying "People's beliefs dictate their actions" only applies in a general sense. People do things that they know they shouldn't every single day.

It's too bad peoples beliefs dictate their actions, so contradicting those beliefs through action does indeed make one a hypocrite.  If a guy preaches about not beating ones wife and then goes home to beat his own, he is a hypocrite.

Sorry, but you're just plain wrong. The definition of hypocrisy says nothing about contradicting your beliefs. You can't just add your own interpretation to words.. that's how people fail to communicate... that and having no idea what words mean in the first place.

[The Geologist]

Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: 'hi-p&-"krit
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritEs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

I don't know how to spell it out any clearer.

But this isn't a topic about hypocricy, it's about the m79. 

[Mancer]

This is off topic but whatever:
Can we seriously censor the title of this thread?
Im not even african american and I cringe when I read it.
I find it blatantly chauvinistic and unnecessary.

I dunno about you but I laugh every time I see it. Funny how he just randomly throws 'you niggaz' in there.

[Slashnoob]

weapon bitching will always exist.
learn to live with it or change your weapon of use.. cause that won't change.