Gay m79

[Cato269]

f*** the m79
barret beats ALL

at least this time your not being a real life guy.

[mike323]

http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1336.msg23601#msg23601

[Rai-Dei]

I think they should just decrease its range so it doesen't go as far.

[Shadow G-Unit]

M79 FTW!!!!!!

why the f*ck does everyone hate it

I agree! The ones who hate it are n00bs! But then again so am I, and I'm most likely finn and youger than 13.

[Hello There]

Just get health mod and it wont be a problem

[The Geologist]

You wouldn't be talking about "hacks", would you?

Because that would be a no no.

[Gold]

Why do you keep complaining about the M79, you just cant handle it when it pwns you, why not use this time to strategise to beat the M79 insteading of complaining about it.

[FliesLikeABrick]

Just get health mod and it wont be a problem

... he has about 30 seconds to explain this to me before I ban him for using/promoting hacks

[Blah]

What do you think of this idea for the m79:

A lot of people are upset about the people who charge you and kill you at point blank range.   Personally, I think that the weapon may have more problems with that (just try playing in Nuubia with everybody using m79-urgh).   But, what about increasing the self damage on the m79 at close range so that it will definitely kill the person who fires it in addition to the person who gets hit (I've seen other people suggest this, too).    Subsequently, add a penalty for suicides.   -1 point so that there is nothing to gain from a suicide shot.  (I was considering -2, but this might be too much as it's easy to accidentally suicide in close quarters with nades.)  To clarify this means that the suicider would break even, +1 for kill and -1 for suicide so 0 point gain..

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Subsequently, add a penalty for suicides. -1 point so that there is nothing to gain from a suicide shot. (I was considering -2, but this might be too much as it's easy to accidentally suicide in close quarters with nades.) To clarify this means that the suicider would break even, +1 for kill and -1 for suicide so 0 point gain..

I'm all for a suicide penalty.  Also, (slightly off topic here) the score table should include kills as well as points.  That way a player can get SOME credit for shooting two pursuers off the flag capturer's back.

Anyway, back to the topic of discussion:
The m79 is a cheap weapon (I like to call it the noob cannon), but it has its limitations.  The main limitation is its short range.  If you're getting killed because the ak74 is weak, USE A STRONGER WEAPON.  Don't use a weak short range weapon against a strong short range weapon.  Use the ruger or the desert eagles against the m79.  Every weapon is strong against some and weak against others.  For example, I love the ruger.  But it will always lose in close combat against the shotgun.

The bottom line is, don't complain about a weapon if you're not willing to change your weapons to beat it.  ak74 is a decent weapon in general, but it's not the master weapon.

Gamer_2k4

[Cato269]

Every weapon is strong against some and weak against others.  For example, I love the ruger.  But it will always lose in close combat against the shotgun.

The bottom line is, don't complain about a weapon if you're not willing to change your weapons to beat it.  ak74 is a decent weapon in general, but it's not the master weapon.

like your post says, one weapon is able to overcome another. but the same weapon is better.

if you want to kill a camper, become one.

if you want to kill a sprayer, become one.

if you want to kill a m79 noob, become one.

If you want to complain about the m79, look into things a littler deeper.

[CrazyArcher]

I have no probs with m79 itself, but i really hate when everyone on the server start using them. If the area is not very big (like the down cavern on arena1) and there are 3-4 m79 grenades flying all around you, it really sux. You can dodge one time, you can dodge 2 times, but the 3rd shot will almost surely get you. I would rather have 5 ppl spraying around with HK's in the same conditions... Also, when everyone has m79, there's a higher-than-average chance that you'll be spawn-killed by some player passing by, since the spawning person has some disadvantage IMO. When you are spawn-killed 3 times in a row with m79 it really pisses you off...
Playing a game is about having fun. Mass m79-using takes the fun away...

[Mr. Domino]

Mass m79-using takes the fun away...

Not at all! That's when you equip a Ruger and slaughter them all.

[CrazyArcher]

Dude, I use Ruger myself, but it doesnt really help in case of mass-m79-using. Ruger is the best you can get in this condition, to tell teh truth, but still you can't own everyone.

[-Vis-]

Mass m79-using takes the fun away...

Not at all! That's when you equip a Ruger and slaughter them all.

You can't be serious...

Though, I did manage that with the spas a couple of days ago. The opposition pretty much sucked though.

[Mr. Domino]

Mass m79-using takes the fun away...

Not at all! That's when you equip a Ruger and slaughter them all.

You can't be serious...

Though, I did manage that with the spas a couple of days ago. The opposition pretty much sucked though.

I can be and am serious. It's the weapon I go to when a server is M79 happy to clean-up with. M79's are easy pickings since the Ruger doesn't have to worry about getting binked, and the Ruger can take out the M79er before they're even in range to fire their shot. Given the lack of real threats during attacking, you should be able to knock out two of them per reload.

[johnbies]

I HATE M79's

[-Vis-]

Mass m79-using takes the fun away...

Not at all! That's when you equip a Ruger and slaughter them all.

You can't be serious...

Though, I did manage that with the spas a couple of days ago. The opposition pretty much sucked though.

I can be and am serious. It's the weapon I go to when a server is M79 happy to clean-up with. M79's are easy pickings since the Ruger doesn't have to worry about getting binked, and the Ruger can take out the M79er before they're even in range to fire their shot. Given the lack of real threats during attacking, you should be able to knock out two of them per reload.

Mmm... I guess I wasn't thinking too clearly. You know I'm the type that likes to rush up to opponents and blow their body parts off with my Spas. It's just not the same when you have a shorter range weapon.

[The Geologist]

I HATE M79's

Great, thanks for contributing absolutely nothing here except for that lovely spam.

If you've got two short range weapons, you've got to make those shots count.  I usually try to jump a bit when I get too close, in the hopes they'll shoot below me and give me a chance to get in a headshot or two.

By the way...where's the balance portion of this discussion?

[Zyblor]

Easy way to make m79 more fair. As the knife, LAW, and Barret (the only other instant kills in normal mode) all have it, make the m79 have the longer fire time, where you need to hold the button down to fire it.